So you are saying that since Dead Rat is the dominant commercial distribution, they should be considered the standard?
Does this mean that all distros need to use RPM instead of a different, and most of the time superior, package manager? Does this mean that all distros need to include software that was never meant for public use (such as gcc2.96 and glibc1)? Does this mean that all distros need to use what I consider a jacked up init?
I think it's going to be harder than they realize. In my AstroPhysics class (the instructor was on the Nobel prize winning team for discovering neutrinos), we spent a week discussing the terraforming of Mars. Currently, the planets rotational speed and temperature are in a combination that will not hold water vapor - any trace gets 'flung' out into space.
Before an atmosphere can be sustained on Mars, it either needs to warm up (ie, move closer to the Sun) (I think, I always get that part confused - maybe I should just bring my AstroPhysics book to work) or slow down. Where's Superman when you need him?
DIS is insanely wasteful. That is why the military is going to HLA. They have basically said that 'if you don't use HLA, you can't play'. (Wow, that rhymes). As a result, a bunch of sim makers (including me) are scrambling to introduce HLA into a sim developed with DIS in mind.
That leads to no end of fun... at least its a different group doing it:)
Actually, I got the info from a friend who was involved with the study (they work at the NTSB), when I asked about the safety record of the 747 because of what happened with Flight800.
TWA Flight 800 was a 747 that was purchased from an oil sheik in the mid-east. It was one of three aircraft (the other two which also exploded in mid-flight) that the sheik had specially modified. IIRC, those are the ONLY 747s in the history of the aircraft that were brought down by electrical failure.
Not ALL of the power is used to provide thrust (although you are correct when you say most is). As was pointed out before, there are a few airlines that already have jacks at every seat. My point was that it was NOT limited by power (as the original poster suspected), but by weight and money.
Good God! Do you have any idea of the power that runs through an aircraft? Do you KNOW how many watts a single 100,000hp engine produces (of which the 777 has two of)? Thats roughly 74.5Mw per engine. Aircraft are designed to run on a single engine at take-off (the most aircraft-stressful portion of flight). That is a LOT of extra wattage.
Power was never a consideration or drawback - the weight of the extra wiring is (and always will be). That is one of the major reason US Airlines are hesitating to sign up for the inflight-net service - the extra weight of the equipment needed. In aircraft, weight == money. The more weight the aircraft has, the less it can carry. The less it can carry, the less they make off of it.
Singapore Airlines has had power adapters available on business class and first class seats for over a year. I think Delta does also. They require that you purchase a special adapter (~$79.95), but not worrying about the batteries in the laptop while cruising over the pond is well worth it.
Boeing has been working on this for a couple of months. They are mainly hoping that an internet-ready BBJ will persuade more people to look that way instead of a GulfStream, etc...
Kurt has been known to suck at actually researching anything. A couple weeks ago he reported that Slack didn't have wu-ftpd patched when the patch was, in fact, released over 2 months before the advisory.
Basically, I would avoid SecurityPortal and stick with SecurityFocus. At least they do research.
I didn't bother checking our Onyx or Onyx2 boxes, but I did check their little brother, the Octane.
We have two Octanes here that I use, and they were the easiest to scope out the jump from R10k to R12k processors. Both have the same amount of memory (512M), the only difference is the vid card (doesn't impact Seti@home) and the processors. The slow machine has dual R10k 250Mhz CPUs and the fast one has dual R12k 300Mhz CPUs.
Over the same weekend (Christmas, while nobody was here) the slow machine was averaging 2 blocks (1 per CPU) every 8 hours. The fast machine was averaging 2 blocks (1 per CPU) every 4 hours.
It isn't just the graphics, the the architecture of the entire box. You cannot compete with the pipelines on an SGI box with a x86. Its just pointless.
Ever wonder why Pixar has so many SGIs? It isn't because they have the extra money to burn. Its because SGI _IS_ the best at graphics. Until you use one for visualization (my department does a LOT of vis work - combat simulation), you have no idea the power of these things.
Actually Slackware does announce security updates. When the Bind exploit was announced, I heard about it from the security mailing list and saw it on the site before I saw the CERT advisory. They do a damn good job with security updates, when they need to. The reason people assume they don't is because of lack of updates. Compare the number of updates and advisors listed on SecurityPortal between Slack and RedHat and you will see a huge difference. The reason? Because Slack only releases tested software packages. They avoid the newest until its been deemed stable enough to include. RedHat doesn't do this. They want the latest and greatest packages. That is ignorant. That is why they have so many security updates.
Slack doesn't ignore security updates, they don't need them.
That, and the fact that the clueless kept asking him 'when he was going to upgrade to Linux 6.0'. Its a marketing ploy that RedHat started, and it succeeded, and Pat had to give in to it.
I agree. RedHat is a pile of dung. RedHat does teach ONE thing about admining... how to update the multitudes of security patches that get released because of using undertested software packages. Now I wonder how many RH users actually do that though...
I've been using my LinkSys EtherFast 10/100 since Slack 4.0. You just need to get the drivers from www.linksys.com.
The reason that Slack will never be a 'desktop OS' is because it is too easy. Its quick, really stable, and depending on the wm/dm too damn intuitive. People wouldn't know what to do if they didn't have to wait for the machine, watch it crash, etc.
What in God's name would you update in the installer? The graphics, just to make it prettier, slow it down, kill the stability? The documentation, because its too well spelled out and you really don't have to guess at anything? Make it so you HAVE to use a mouse instead of the keyboard?
Slack's installer is as close to perfection that I think I have seen...
The ONLY reason people think that Slack is hard to set up is because it is text/menu based and you have to use the keyboard instead of a mouse. The setup is so well explained that many people get it up and running on the first try, often quicker than RedHat.
And L0phtCrack will remain a valuable security auditing tool, as long as you do not use it on systems you don't have permission too. Stored with L0phtCrack as a list of names/passwds that they did not have permission to possess. Do you see a difference here yet?
Do you keep a list of names and passwords on it that you do not have permission to possess? That is what makes this a perfectly legitimate charge. Using a tool for a reason that is not illegal does not mean that another use is not illegal also.
I know of a few gas stations on RTE 66 that have kiosks for net access. I haven't used one (it only takes me 4 hours to get from home to Vegas and I have cable at both so I don't start to jones too much), but it has browser access. I'm not sure how secure it is, like whether or not you want to forward your mail to someplace like linuxstart.com, but it is a choice.
I was just getting ready to get the 7500:) I was going to call them and see if they could nix 98 or NT or whatever was going to come with it. Now I guess I have to find out if they can not install RedHat so I don't end up replacing a POS for another POS =)
Why don't they offer several distro's to install from? Its probably a money/deal thing they have going on, but I would much rather give money to LinuxCare than RedHat, and have Slack on my laptop.
Oh well, I guess I could always fdisk and start from scratch.
The first quote of the story: "Young cyber whizzes with knowledge to infiltrate the most secure computer systems in the world are growing in numbers and ability," should really be changed to say "Young cyber whizzes with knowledge to download freely available exploits that anybody with a minimal sense of security should be able to patch."
The worst part is that the media is the only thing that feeds the so-called 'intelligence' of most people. I guess thats why the world seems to be in a downward spiral. It'd be cool if journalists would ask for expert opinions from people who know something about the subject, but I think they teach you not to do that in Journalism101 or something.
I seriously don't understand what people have a problem with this for. In the current state of the worlds military powers, things are the most undefined that they ever were. (Wow, did that make sense? I think its still too early...) The government is rightly concerned about being a target for a terrorist attack. The other countries that we are not so friendly with would not resort to a full on attack. That would be ludicrous. The new undefined fields of battle are urban areas, and terrorism is the tactic of choice. We (the defense industry) listen to all kinds of briefings stating this over and over. The NSA has a job of trying to protect the government and the citizens of this country. They don't read everything they get.
They look for certain words. Whats wrong with this? Those that aren't doing anything wrong wont be messed with. Only those that have a reason to be afraid need to be. I just think its completely irresponsible to try to flood the system. It puts you on a list you probably don't want to be on. If they see a message like "That party was the bomb," or any other harmless message, they don't even blink twice. Poeple need to be aware of the overall picture of what is going on. This whole up in arms about privacy being invaded is lame. Unless you give _them_ a reason to invade your privacy, it wont be. Think about it...
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So you are saying that since Dead Rat is the dominant commercial distribution, they should be considered the standard?
Does this mean that all distros need to use RPM instead of a different, and most of the time superior, package manager? Does this mean that all distros need to include software that was never meant for public use (such as gcc2.96 and glibc1)? Does this mean that all distros need to use what I consider a jacked up init?
Jesus, I hope not.
I think it's going to be harder than they realize. In my AstroPhysics class (the instructor was on the Nobel prize winning team for discovering neutrinos), we spent a week discussing the terraforming of Mars. Currently, the planets rotational speed and temperature are in a combination that will not hold water vapor - any trace gets 'flung' out into space.
Before an atmosphere can be sustained on Mars, it either needs to warm up (ie, move closer to the Sun) (I think, I always get that part confused - maybe I should just bring my AstroPhysics book to work) or slow down. Where's Superman when you need him?
DIS is insanely wasteful. That is why the military is going to HLA. They have basically said that 'if you don't use HLA, you can't play'. (Wow, that rhymes). As a result, a bunch of sim makers (including me) are scrambling to introduce HLA into a sim developed with DIS in mind.
:)
That leads to no end of fun... at least its a different group doing it
Notice how all those listed are for airlines and not individuals?
Actually, I got the info from a friend who was involved with the study (they work at the NTSB), when I asked about the safety record of the 747 because of what happened with Flight800.
TWA Flight 800 was a 747 that was purchased from an oil sheik in the mid-east. It was one of three aircraft (the other two which also exploded in mid-flight) that the sheik had specially modified. IIRC, those are the ONLY 747s in the history of the aircraft that were brought down by electrical failure.
Not ALL of the power is used to provide thrust (although you are correct when you say most is). As was pointed out before, there are a few airlines that already have jacks at every seat. My point was that it was NOT limited by power (as the original poster suspected), but by weight and money.
Good God! Do you have any idea of the power that runs through an aircraft? Do you KNOW how many watts a single 100,000hp engine produces (of which the 777 has two of)? Thats roughly 74.5Mw per engine. Aircraft are designed to run on a single engine at take-off (the most aircraft-stressful portion of flight). That is a LOT of extra wattage.
Power was never a consideration or drawback - the weight of the extra wiring is (and always will be). That is one of the major reason US Airlines are hesitating to sign up for the inflight-net service - the extra weight of the equipment needed. In aircraft, weight == money. The more weight the aircraft has, the less it can carry. The less it can carry, the less they make off of it.
Singapore Airlines has had power adapters available on business class and first class seats for over a year. I think Delta does also. They require that you purchase a special adapter (~$79.95), but not worrying about the batteries in the laptop while cruising over the pond is well worth it.
Boeing has been working on this for a couple of months. They are mainly hoping that an internet-ready BBJ will persuade more people to look that way instead of a GulfStream, etc...
Kurt has been known to suck at actually researching anything. A couple weeks ago he reported that Slack didn't have wu-ftpd patched when the patch was, in fact, released over 2 months before the advisory. Basically, I would avoid SecurityPortal and stick with SecurityFocus. At least they do research.
I didn't bother checking our Onyx or Onyx2 boxes, but I did check their little brother, the Octane.
We have two Octanes here that I use, and they were the easiest to scope out the jump from R10k to R12k processors. Both have the same amount of memory (512M), the only difference is the vid card (doesn't impact Seti@home) and the processors. The slow machine has dual R10k 250Mhz CPUs and the fast one has dual R12k 300Mhz CPUs.
Over the same weekend (Christmas, while nobody was here) the slow machine was averaging 2 blocks (1 per CPU) every 8 hours. The fast machine was averaging 2 blocks (1 per CPU) every 4 hours.
Thats as close to a benchmark as I have done...
It isn't just the graphics, the the architecture of the entire box. You cannot compete with the pipelines on an SGI box with a x86. Its just pointless.
Ever wonder why Pixar has so many SGIs? It isn't because they have the extra money to burn. Its because SGI _IS_ the best at graphics. Until you use one for visualization (my department does a LOT of vis work - combat simulation), you have no idea the power of these things.
The 4020i is a (very) old 2x4. Its not a rewritable. It was around be rewritables were a glimmer in anybody's eye.
:P).
Its cool that I can finally get compensated for buying this piece of crap (that still works most of the time
Actually Slackware does announce security updates. When the Bind exploit was announced, I heard about it from the security mailing list and saw it on the site before I saw the CERT advisory. They do a damn good job with security updates, when they need to. The reason people assume they don't is because of lack of updates. Compare the number of updates and advisors listed on SecurityPortal between Slack and RedHat and you will see a huge difference. The reason? Because Slack only releases tested software packages. They avoid the newest until its been deemed stable enough to include. RedHat doesn't do this. They want the latest and greatest packages. That is ignorant. That is why they have so many security updates.
Slack doesn't ignore security updates, they don't need them.
That, and the fact that the clueless kept asking him 'when he was going to upgrade to Linux 6.0'. Its a marketing ploy that RedHat started, and it succeeded, and Pat had to give in to it.
I agree. RedHat is a pile of dung. RedHat does teach ONE thing about admining... how to update the multitudes of security patches that get released because of using undertested software packages. Now I wonder how many RH users actually do that though...
I've been using my LinkSys EtherFast 10/100 since Slack 4.0. You just need to get the drivers from www.linksys.com.
The reason that Slack will never be a 'desktop OS' is because it is too easy. Its quick, really stable, and depending on the wm/dm too damn intuitive. People wouldn't know what to do if they didn't have to wait for the machine, watch it crash, etc.
What in God's name would you update in the installer? The graphics, just to make it prettier, slow it down, kill the stability? The documentation, because its too well spelled out and you really don't have to guess at anything? Make it so you HAVE to use a mouse instead of the keyboard?
Slack's installer is as close to perfection that I think I have seen...
The ONLY reason people think that Slack is hard to set up is because it is text/menu based and you have to use the keyboard instead of a mouse. The setup is so well explained that many people get it up and running on the first try, often quicker than RedHat.
And L0phtCrack will remain a valuable security auditing tool, as long as you do not use it on systems you don't have permission too. Stored with L0phtCrack as a list of names/passwds that they did not have permission to possess. Do you see a difference here yet?
Do you keep a list of names and passwords on it that you do not have permission to possess? That is what makes this a perfectly legitimate charge. Using a tool for a reason that is not illegal does not mean that another use is not illegal also.
I know of a few gas stations on RTE 66 that have kiosks for net access. I haven't used one (it only takes me 4 hours to get from home to Vegas and I have cable at both so I don't start to jones too much), but it has browser access. I'm not sure how secure it is, like whether or not you want to forward your mail to someplace like linuxstart.com, but it is a choice.
The RedHat laptop has a lot less to configure than the Win* laptop. Check it out. Thats what he is moaning about.
I was just getting ready to get the 7500 :) I was going to call them and see if they could nix 98 or NT or whatever was going to come with it. Now I guess I have to find out if they can not install RedHat so I don't end up replacing a POS for another POS =)
Why don't they offer several distro's to install from? Its probably a money/deal thing they have going on, but I would much rather give money to LinuxCare than RedHat, and have Slack on my laptop.
Oh well, I guess I could always fdisk and start from scratch.
Script kiddies bother the hell out of me.
The first quote of the story: "Young cyber whizzes with knowledge to infiltrate the most secure computer systems in the world are growing in numbers and ability," should really be changed to say "Young cyber whizzes with knowledge to download freely available exploits that anybody with a minimal sense of security should be able to patch."
The worst part is that the media is the only thing that feeds the so-called 'intelligence' of most people. I guess thats why the world seems to be in a downward spiral. It'd be cool if journalists would ask for expert opinions from people who know something about the subject, but I think they teach you not to do that in Journalism101 or something.
I seriously don't understand what people have a problem with this for. In the current state of the worlds military powers, things are the most undefined that they ever were. (Wow, did that make sense? I think its still too early...) The government is rightly concerned about being a target for a terrorist attack. The other countries that we are not so friendly with would not resort to a full on attack. That would be ludicrous. The new undefined fields of battle are urban areas, and terrorism is the tactic of choice. We (the defense industry) listen to all kinds of briefings stating this over and over. The NSA has a job of trying to protect the government and the citizens of this country. They don't read everything they get.
They look for certain words. Whats wrong with this? Those that aren't doing anything wrong wont be messed with. Only those that have a reason to be afraid need to be. I just think its completely irresponsible to try to flood the system. It puts you on a list you probably don't want to be on. If they see a message like "That party was the bomb," or any other harmless message, they don't even blink twice. Poeple need to be aware of the overall picture of what is going on. This whole up in arms about privacy being invaded is lame. Unless you give _them_ a reason to invade your privacy, it wont be. Think about it...