But it's rare to see benchmarks giving clear data as far as speed goes. These are very informal tests, but for identical algorithms (prime number finder) in Python VS C.. C blows Python out of the water. Much more so than I would have thought (I'm a fan of both Python and C). The source to the two (small) programs will be attached to this post (to save space on the main thread).
[c code]
1229 prime numbers between 1 and 10000
real 0m0.706s
user 0m0.703s
sys 0m0.003s
[python code]
[alex@csc ~/prog/python/trial]$ time./grab.py
1229 prime numbers between 1 and 10000
More Debian-valid Software -- is this really good?
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Ok. First, let me say that the only two distributions I use are Debian and Slackware. They are just what I like. My first instinct upon hearing this news was that.. "Great.. now KDE can be a real part of Debian." Then I did a double-take.
Is this really what I want?
What this means is that all of those countless KDE apps can be a part of Debian - for which in almost every case there is a Gnome counterpart. Package listings are already huge - they will surely go at least 1.25x by the inclusion of everything KDE. I'm not trying to knock KDE or QT - but having two of everything KDE and Gnome is not what I want in my package listing. Maybe it's time to set up three archives, instead of just one main one - one for non-aligned software, Gnome software, and KDE software (I realize that there are already KDE debian servers).
Maybe I'm just crazy - but I don't really want to have to muck about in countless instances of duplicate software in my dselect that I'm never going to use. There must be a good solution to this.
Their wars drive away developers.
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I don't know about the attitude of other neutral developers, such as myself - but back and forth flames between the KDE and Gnome fronts such as this make me not want to be involved in either community.
I have been looking to get involved in a Linux programming community, yet the two most prominent - KDE and Gnome - are always fighting back and forth, and it just disgusts me. I have serious abilities to contribute to a major project, yet political wars such as this make me disinterested in being involved. I think if they would just settle down with each other, a lot more could get accomplished. Makes me sad.
Daimun
At my university, an entire hall in a friend's dorm was blocked out of the campus network for bringing in their own computers and putting them on a network with a hub.
The system administrators here are the biggest bunch of idiots since that guy that hit his head with cheese to find out if it tasted good.
For example, a friend was in a lab and changed the refresh rate to 80 (not knowing that the monitors only went to 70.. he's got bad eyes and he says that 80 is easier for him to read). So of course the screen went skitzo (WinNT.. the screen never came back.. seems like it should have after the autotest *shrug*). The head lab guy came over, looked at the computer, and proceeded to get a ghost disk and rebuild the whole machine. My friend told him "you know you can just boot into VGA mode and fix it.. you don't have to rebuild the machine". The admin then told him that "these machines can't do that" and got pissed off at my friend for being such an idiot.
My school is not without it's saving graces, though. I'm convinced I have the single greatest CS professor in the history of existence. He's totally fscking awesome.
I have to say; People that refuse to acknowledge Jim Carrey as an actor need a good slap in the face. I have seen every Jim Carry movie, and -- Damn, he has a -lot- of talent as both an actor and a commedian. It just so happens that being slap-happy and obnoxious is what got him famous. In The Truman show, he sometimes bordered on his slap-happy character, yet at the times it happened, I found it characterally perfectly acceptable; it was at times when the character should be snapping. Now, in Man on the Moon, he has proven beyond any doubt to me that he is a Damn Fine Actor. Being able to emulate another person's humor and personality so well that (this was on an interview on NPR, the agent was on the interviewee) Andy's agent (being one of his closest friends) says that he was taken aback by just how well Carrey does the roll, is one damn hard and fine accomplishment. I just don't see, and am incredibly irritated by, people who refuse to acknowledge him as an actor, not just an obnoxious fool. -Mog
Crazy kids thinkin it would be great to get to Europa.. back in my day we didn't have these fancy shmancy spaceships to do our interplanetary and intergalactic travelling. We had to do it the old fashioned way -- walking, or riding our bikes.
Why, with all of your airplanes and rocket ships you should be able to make it at LEAST to Andromedda, if not.. maybe Australia!
I like stories like this. It just made me smile, and feel warm and fuzzy inside. Things like this let me know not to take life too seriously. It's the little things that can make a person happy. Happy odd day, everyone! -Mog
I like it when you guys sit there for five minutes bullshitting about.. anything? That's gotta be the funniest part of the whole shabang.. The news is nice, but a lot of the time it's just repeats of what was on the site. Your heckling of anything and everything that comes up is what makes me laugh my ass off. Keep up the good work -- and remember,.. who needs content? >:)
This may be an extremely naive question, but just how much Linux support is there out there for synching with the PalmOS? What sort of PIM programs on the computer is there to use in conjunction with the Visor/PalmPilot? Is the USB connection support? Infrared? My motherboard has IrDA support.. but there's no receiver on the front of my computer.. does the computer not receive IrDA like other infrareds? As I said, very naive questions, but certainly applicable to the subject matter -- I imagine that many people have such questions, with the Palmtops being previously out of most peoples' sensible price range... Mog
Wrong. the pixels were the size of primordial fists, and I imagine the pixels on this sucker would be more like primordial chunks of uncooked, unkilled beef.
I think that it was more of noticing something interesting than ridicule. Unless I am forgetting the words of the story, I don't recall anything that mentioned "What an idiot" or "dumb microsoft bastard." While it certainly isn't 100% appropriate to be sharing the information, he did change the name of the person. The only person that would recognize who the writer was speaking of would be the caller.
Well I got out the old box, and it's version 2.1. I think I'm going to boot up an old pentium tonight and install it on there and see what my taste for it is.
yes, it has 1 pcmcia slot but unfortunately for me, pcmcia cdroms are damned expensive.. i couldn't afford to spend more than 15-20$ on something right now..
Hi there, I am soon getting a 386/25mhz laptop with 8mb RAM and 120mb hard disk space. I am entertaining the idea of installing OS/2 on it (I have the CD-ROM from years and years ago) instead of just a basic Linux install. Would there be a way for me to install OS/2 on it, using floppies? The laptop doesn't have a cdrom. Is this feasible at all? If anyone has suggestions as to what I could do with the laptop to make it functional, any alternative options are very welcome. I'm just looking for something to play IF's on around campus, and to type up code wherever I feel like it.
All this talk of world domination is probably the single biggest factor that makes me a bit ashamed of some of (not most of or all of, some of) the Linux population. My views on Linux and indeed all of computing in general is CHOICE. Isn't that the ultimate goal we are all fighting for? The CHOICE to not having to pay for software. The CHOICE of being able to download whatever programs you want off of the internet. And, indeed, the CHOICE of being able to purchase a license to MS Windows or MacOS if you so choose. I believe that what we are fighting for is the lack of any total world domination. If it is not, what exactly are we fighting for? Another monopoly? I believe very strongly that Microsoft should NOT be totally destroyed, just put in check. If people want to use windows, knowing it is not as stable or fast as alternative OS's, let them. I don't want Microsoft fans at my doorstep saying I can't use Linux, so the last thing I would do would be to tell those MS fans they can't use their OS of choice. Sobeit.
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But it's rare to see benchmarks giving clear data as far as speed goes. These are very informal tests, but for identical algorithms (prime number finder) in Python VS C.. C blows Python out of the water. Much more so than I would have thought (I'm a fan of both Python and C). The source to the two (small) programs will be attached to this post (to save space on the main thread).
./grab.py
[c code]
1229 prime numbers between 1 and 10000
real 0m0.706s
user 0m0.703s
sys 0m0.003s
[python code]
[alex@csc ~/prog/python/trial]$ time
1229 prime numbers between 1 and 10000
real 0m40.362s
user 0m40.138s
sys 0m0.198s
Use phrase 'Anatomically Improbable' more often.
Ok. First, let me say that the only two distributions I use are Debian and Slackware. They are just what I like. My first instinct upon hearing this news was that.. "Great.. now KDE can be a real part of Debian." Then I did a double-take.
Is this really what I want?
What this means is that all of those countless KDE apps can be a part of Debian - for which in almost every case there is a Gnome counterpart. Package listings are already huge - they will surely go at least 1.25x by the inclusion of everything KDE. I'm not trying to knock KDE or QT - but having two of everything KDE and Gnome is not what I want in my package listing. Maybe it's time to set up three archives, instead of just one main one - one for non-aligned software, Gnome software, and KDE software (I realize that there are already KDE debian servers).
Maybe I'm just crazy - but I don't really want to have to muck about in countless instances of duplicate software in my dselect that I'm never going to use. There must be a good solution to this.
I don't know about the attitude of other neutral developers, such as myself - but back and forth flames between the KDE and Gnome fronts such as this make me not want to be involved in either community.
I have been looking to get involved in a Linux programming community, yet the two most prominent - KDE and Gnome - are always fighting back and forth, and it just disgusts me. I have serious abilities to contribute to a major project, yet political wars such as this make me disinterested in being involved. I think if they would just settle down with each other, a lot more could get accomplished. Makes me sad.
Daimun
Don't use IE! Use netscape/mozilla, it has no such "features". I use netscape/linux for all my browsing, works very well.
At my university, an entire hall in a friend's dorm was blocked out of the campus network for bringing in their own computers and putting them on a network with a hub.
The system administrators here are the biggest bunch of idiots since that guy that hit his head with cheese to find out if it tasted good.
For example, a friend was in a lab and changed the refresh rate to 80 (not knowing that the monitors only went to 70.. he's got bad eyes and he says that 80 is easier for him to read). So of course the screen went skitzo (WinNT.. the screen never came back.. seems like it should have after the autotest *shrug*). The head lab guy came over, looked at the computer, and proceeded to get a ghost disk and rebuild the whole machine. My friend told him "you know you can just boot into VGA mode and fix it.. you don't have to rebuild the machine". The admin then told him that "these machines can't do that" and got pissed off at my friend for being such an idiot.
My school is not without it's saving graces, though. I'm convinced I have the single greatest CS professor in the history of existence. He's totally fscking awesome.
Mog
I have to say; People that refuse to acknowledge Jim Carrey as an actor need a good slap in the face. I have seen every Jim Carry movie, and -- Damn, he has a -lot- of talent as both an actor and a commedian. It just so happens that being slap-happy and obnoxious is what got him famous.
In The Truman show, he sometimes bordered on his slap-happy character, yet at the times it happened, I found it characterally perfectly acceptable; it was at times when the character should be snapping. Now, in Man on the Moon, he has proven beyond any doubt to me that he is a Damn Fine Actor. Being able to emulate another person's humor and personality so well that (this was on an interview on NPR, the agent was on the interviewee) Andy's agent (being one of his closest friends) says that he was taken aback by just how well Carrey does the roll, is one damn hard and fine accomplishment.
I just don't see, and am incredibly irritated by, people who refuse to acknowledge him as an actor, not just an obnoxious fool.
-Mog
Bah humbug
.. maybe Australia!
Crazy kids thinkin it would be great to get to Europa.. back in my day we didn't have these fancy shmancy spaceships to do our interplanetary and intergalactic travelling. We had to do it the old fashioned way -- walking, or riding our bikes.
Why, with all of your airplanes and rocket ships you should be able to make it at LEAST to Andromedda, if not
Kids these days..
I like stories like this. It just made me smile, and feel warm and fuzzy inside. Things like this let me know not to take life too seriously. It's the little things that can make a person happy.
Happy odd day, everyone!
-Mog
Regarding older games, when did Rogue enter the picture? That was one of my first computer games ever .. on my good ol' Tandy PC1000.
I like it when you guys sit there for five minutes bullshitting about .. anything? That's gotta be the funniest part of the whole shabang.. The news is nice, but a lot of the time it's just repeats of what was on the site. Your heckling of anything and everything that comes up is what makes me laugh my ass off. Keep up the good work -- and remember, .. who needs content? >:)
This may be an extremely naive question, but just
how much Linux support is there out there for
synching with the PalmOS? What sort of
PIM programs on the computer is there to use in
conjunction with the Visor/PalmPilot? Is the
USB connection support? Infrared? My motherboard
has IrDA support.. but there's no receiver on the
front of my computer.. does the computer not
receive IrDA like other infrareds?
As I said, very naive questions, but certainly
applicable to the subject matter -- I imagine
that many people have such questions, with the
Palmtops being previously out of most peoples'
sensible price range...
Mog
Wrong. the pixels were the size of primordial fists, and I imagine the pixels on this sucker would be more like primordial chunks of uncooked, unkilled beef.
I think that it was more of noticing something interesting than ridicule. Unless I am forgetting the words of the story, I don't recall anything that mentioned "What an idiot" or "dumb microsoft bastard." While it certainly isn't 100% appropriate to be sharing the information, he did change the name of the person. The only person that would recognize who the writer was speaking of would be the caller.
Well I got out the old box, and it's version 2.1.
I think I'm going to boot up an old pentium tonight and install it on there and see what my taste for it is.
yes, it has 1 pcmcia slot
but unfortunately for me, pcmcia cdroms are damned expensive..
i couldn't afford to spend more than 15-20$ on something right now..
Hi there,
I am soon getting a 386/25mhz laptop with 8mb
RAM and 120mb hard disk space. I am entertaining
the idea of installing OS/2 on it (I have the
CD-ROM from years and years ago) instead of just
a basic Linux install.
Would there be a way for me to install OS/2 on
it, using floppies? The laptop doesn't have a
cdrom. Is this feasible at all?
If anyone has suggestions as to what I could do
with the laptop to make it functional, any
alternative options are very welcome. I'm just
looking for something to play IF's on around
campus, and to type up code wherever I feel like
it.
Thanks
Alex (mog@cland.net)
Actually I already graduated. I mailed my Ask Slashdot about 2.5 or 3 months ago, and it just got posted.
All this talk of world domination is probably the single biggest factor that makes me a bit ashamed of some of (not most of or all of, some of) the Linux population. My views on Linux and indeed all of computing in general is CHOICE. Isn't that the ultimate goal we are all fighting for? The CHOICE to not having to pay for software. The CHOICE of being able to download whatever programs you want off of the internet. And, indeed, the CHOICE of being able to purchase a license to MS Windows or MacOS if you so choose.
I believe that what we are fighting for is the lack of any total world domination. If it is not, what exactly are we fighting for? Another monopoly? I believe very strongly that Microsoft should NOT be totally destroyed, just put in check. If people want to use windows, knowing it is not as stable or fast as alternative OS's, let them. I don't want Microsoft fans at my doorstep saying I can't use Linux, so the last thing I would do would be to tell those MS fans they can't use their OS of choice. Sobeit.