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mog asks: "I am currently starting a large research paper for my senior High School English class, and have chosen the topic "The Hazards of the Internet." Obviously this is intended to mean the dangers of the internet, but I have chosen to interpret it differently. My interpretation is that of the dangers encountered upon the development of the internet. I am looking for any information anyone can supply me about the Intellectual Property issues, Monopolies / OSS movement issues, and the general issue of standardizing internet protocols."

143 comments

  1. License Minefield by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    How about the minefield caused by viral licensing agreements proliferating around the internet?

    Why not write a paper critical of the open source movement for a change, and see how it will be mainstreamed and become just another distribution mechanism and not an earth shattering revolution bringing movement.


    1. Re:License Minefield by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did this a while back for a project in my History class. Thanks to Salon and Slashdot, along with my own knowledge, I was able to draw a paper that compares the open source and free software movement with the Reformation. The final grade was an A+, with a comment stating "You write very passionately".

  2. Rewrite your paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    call it hazards of the new millenium.

    stuff like
    1) a ring that allows/denies you entry into buildings, has all of your information, you can't buy or sell without it. it's like having a credit card/drivers license/SS card all in one with everything in a little ring you will be required to wear at all times.. Sign of the devil anyone?

    2) new cars will all have black boxes that will allow police as well as 'security' companies to watch you. they will say this feature is to track down stolen cars, but it is also so they can follow you at all times and they will have control to turn off your car and make it unable to restart. they will also monitor your speed so police won't be monitoring speed in traffic as often.

    3) men will be able to bear children within 10 years

    4) all these prophecy theories..

    The technology is here and they have been using similar technologies but never tell us about it. For instance, a friend of mine in the DEA says sometimes they get in a helicopter far above the perpetrators house and are able to view through the house and watch all activity.

    To hell with Big Brother.
    Join the rebellion to take back our country.

    1. Re:Rewrite your paper by jCaT · · Score: 1

      What did you say your name was? Ted Kazinski?

    2. Re:Rewrite your paper by panda · · Score: 1

      Those assertions aren't all that far-fetched.

      Thermal imaging devices have been been powerful enough "to see through" walls for two decades now.

      There is talk of putting black boxes in automobiles similar to what one finds in airplanes, so that vehicle state can be reconstructed after accidents. Some law enforcement agencies have been asking that these boxes serve as tracking devices and also have the ability to shut the vehicle down remotely.

      Have you not heard of the proposed "smart card?" It would be a credit card-like device that essentially allows you to carry your financial and medical (an any other) histories around with you at all times. It has been proposed that these things replace cash.

      There is a lot of other scary stuff going on if you pay attention to the right channels, and most of these are nonsensational, open sources. ("Open source" is spook speak for non-governmental, non-classified sources: media, industry rumor, etc.)

      There is a lot of other stuff that goes on that the media doesn't talk about because the concerned parties don't advertise their actions. Yet, if you listen on the proper channels, and know where to get the info. (again, from open sources, but more obscure titles), you can piece together some of what is going on.

      There is so much good intel on this stuff out in the open, that I shudder to think of what is actually being kept under some classification or another.

      If you think I'm paranoid, think again. I don't believe in the "New World Order" and "black helicopter" conspiracies, even though it does say "Novus Ordo Seclorum" on the U.S. one dollar bill.
      Seclorum, an interesting choice of wording, that.

      No, my name isn't Ted Kazinsky, either. I don't think that anyone is really trying to subvert democracy in the U.S. with all these gadgets and the application of technology. Law and Order types are basically lazy, and they want to do their jobs with a minimum of risk and effort, kind of like hackers, but with a slightly different social ethic. Yes, there is a potential for these tools to be abused, just as any tool can be abused, but I believe that it is up to the individual, and the individuals collected in a society, to safeguard their own freedom. I don't bitch and moan about the apparent erosion of freedom in the western world in private, because I agree with Voltaire in that the people usually get the kind of government they deserve.

      --
      Just be sure to wear the gold uniform when you beam down -- you know what happens when you wear the red one.
  3. luckyu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this makes me wish i worked at slashdot..
    post requests like this would have gotten me through my english classes alot easier -=;[]

  4. Re:Do homework on your own. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sweated on the web? Damn, kids have it too easy nowadays...

  5. Oh, please... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    If you want to be a techno-savvy neo-enlightened geek, the first thing to learn is to do you own homework, literally and figuratively. Read old slashdot articles, famous essays. Fire up slrn. Break out www.google.com or www.deja.com. Read some mailing list archives. Do whatever, but don't ask other people to digest and disseminate the very information that you're supposed to be reasearching for you. The whole point of a High School research paper is to allow you to express your own ideas, in your own ways. Take that chance. Don't give into the temptation and ask others to do it for you.


    Quite onestly, such an attempt makes me sick. You can do better than that, and you *know* it. Find your own ideas. Research what you want to. Don't expect others to do your work for you. It's offensive when you ask, you know?

    1. Re:Oh, please... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ah.. So asking people for information and suggestions suddenly isn't research?

      Just because you apparently are stupid enough to not asking questions, doesn't mean everyone else have to be.

      He didn't ask someone to write the paper for him. He asked for suggestions and opinions and information. And from the responses here he's likely to get a lot broader set of sources to use than if he'd went to the local library and spent a few weeks sweating over books, or spent weeks of searching for sources on the web.

      The wast majority of knowledge is in peoples heads - not on paper, or the web. Asking questions is one of the things a good school will teach you. You'll learn much more that way than by pretending the only acceptable form of research is digging for information at the library that might not be there.

  6. Internet Hazards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps a paper discussing the hazards of investing on the internet.

    This could take one of two major focuses:

    1. The risk entailed in investing in companies with an Internet focus. The balloons keep on growing in size. Look out for that baby crawling around down on the carpet with the hatpin.

    2. The risk entailed in investing in companies through the internet. All the day-traders in their cubicles near mine at work spend a lot of time on websites supposedly getting a good return on their investments.

  7. Re:Do homework on your own. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is more honesty and unbiased (read: un-bought) opinion in one day's worth of slashdot than six months of

    hahhaha, this is rich. the vast majority of what is posted here on slashdot is mindless zealots bleating like the sheep that they are. you would be hard pressed to actually find anything here on slashdot that isnt heavaly biased.

  8. Re:Do homework on your own. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Other side? On Slashdot? Surely you jest!

    Nope... nobody in here but us monitor-tanned code cowboys...

  9. how is this crap posted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BAH! what a waste of pixels to display that question. I'm upset my CPU wasted power interpreting that HTML! What a dumb question to be posted here...and for a high-school paper to. Hope you get 90+% on you 500 word essay buddy.

    1. Re:how is this crap posted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As opposed to your reply?

  10. Do not get to technical.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I did a similar paper for my Senior Research paper. I did it on ISDN and xDSL and stuff. I had almost a perfect paper, but got a B- because my instructor had no idea what I was talking about. (I doubt she ever even got in the internet before). Remember this is an English paper. It is to be read by an English major who probably took as few computer cources as possible (When mine went to school, there wasn't even a single computer in our town).

  11. Suggestion.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    read some of Neal Stephenson's essays posted awhile back on slashdot. One specific essay was his "Cryptonomicon".

    And like other's have said.. just search around. It's not that hard. Would have been faster than sending in the email to slashdot (and me and countless others replying).

  12. The Internet Power Struggle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The Internet offers the potential for unregulated communications around the globe. This raises the potential for two classes of danger:
    • A backlash from those parties who depend on their ability to regulate others for their livelihood. Some of these agencies can fight back with legal, financial, political, or even military power.
    • Irresponsible publication of information (or intentional or unintentional publication of disinformation) and irresponsible usage of information published. This is a risk whenever there is communication between two parties, and the only real solution to this is for people to become smarter. The increase of intelligence is only aided by the increase of information flow. Of course the parties that want to regulate the new medium will use this second category of risk to justify their regulating and reducing the information flow, conveniently reducing the threat to their power.
    The Electronic Frontier Foundation site might be worth checking out, if you haven't already.
  13. Read Lessig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A good set of articles (opinions) concerning the internet can be found at Lawrence Lessig's home page. Lessig is the Berkman Professor for Entrepreneurial Legal Studies at Harvard Law School. He also writes a regular column for the Industry Standard. I highly recommend that you read these articles as they are well written and highly thought provoking. Note: his article "Memo to the Leviathan" assumes the hypothetical role of a person that play's devil advocate to Lessig's opinions.

  14. Development of Internet Standards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want to know the history of a lot of
    the protocols that the internet uses, look
    at the RFC's (start at www.ietf.org) and
    browse from there. Some of them are highly
    technical, but they go all the way back
    to 1969.

    Check out RFC 2555 for a little bit of histroy.

  15. suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As food for thought, I give you the letter I wrote to a guy at antionline in response to an article he wrote there. This is just my opinion but it might offer some interesting lines of research for you.

    Don,

    Congragulations on an interesting article that has inspired this
    response. I would like to begin by saying that I've been watching the
    internet, and using it, for some eight years now in relative silence. I
    tend to be quiet, but I really need to respond to this story. Don, with
    all due respect, I don't think you really understand what is going on
    here, nor do most people. I have heard the pundits, prognosticators and
    'intelligentsia' discuss the internet and related phenomenon for years
    and am stunned how off-base their comments seem to be. The internet is
    about _liberation by information_, and it has brought about a war
    between the masses and the 'guilds', the rulers; the emperors, if you
    will. But here is what so few seem to understand: The information age,
    whether it be driven by the internet or some descendent thereof, is
    about the liberation by information _of the masses_, not those already
    in possession of information and power.

    For centuries the leaders of society, the control freaks, have exploited
    and taken advantage of the masses and finally, the masses are going to
    get theirs, as it were; not because of some philosophical manifesto or
    belief, but because of the immutable direction in which technology is
    taking us. No human being is really controlling this. It is precisely
    when you jeopardize the control freaks' hold on the masses, through
    public relations and image, that they get furious and start fighting.
    For it is at that point that you begin to break their hold on power, and
    they know it. The FBI has as much as admitted that this whole affair is
    about image (see CNN). Isn't it always? Isn't it really about ego, about
    public image and showing who's who? After all, your article appeared
    only _after_ the 'hackers' attacked _your_ domain and perhaps hurt your
    ego. Don't take this wrong, I just think this is the way we have
    sub-consciously structured our society; it's just the way it is.

    But even worse, if you control the purse directly they really get angry.
    See the Recording Industries panic over mp3 to see my point.
    Intellectual property rights are a total fraud. If I sell, or barter
    something to you that I created in a totally original way, I've no moral
    or ethical right to have any influence or control over what you decide
    to do with it. But I do have the right to possess original named credit
    for the work, or to not release it at all. Is this so difficult to see?
    That this lie, the lie of profits based on interfering in the private
    relations of other people bartering or selling your creation is one of
    the most fantastic lies ever perpetuated by man, and the internet is
    forcing it into the acid bath of truth, for all the world to see. It was
    by _controlling information_ that the control freaks were able to
    successfully perpetuate this lie for so many centuries. I encourage you
    to objectively think about intellectual property rights and profits and
    ask yourself if it makes any ethical sense.

    The knee jerk reaction of the control freaks to the internet has been to
    either reject it or, not surprisingly, to _try_ to control it. But this
    is what is so 'insidious' about the internet: you cannot control
    something that pushes the limits of technology _all the time_. What I
    mean is, there is no way to censor or control an _interactive, real
    time_ medium that connects essentially everyone over a network of wires,
    with datagrams sent via NAPs operating at the fastest speeds technology
    will allow! To do so would require technology _beyond_ what is presently
    available as it must allow both the reading and _cross referencing_ of
    packet header info, something currently not required. This is an obvious
    contradiciton that is simply not possible. My theory is this, and I do
    not believe it is all that remarkable: this network will _always_
    function at the highest speed the technological infrastructure will
    allow (because as the speed is made available, it is immediately used by
    'consumers'), thereby negating the possibility of real, comprehensive
    censorship (because that would require _greater_ speeds). This 'theory'
    holds for any network, not just the internet. The market simply won't
    bear the slow-down necessary for comprehensive censorship. The humor in
    the inability of just about _everyone_ and _anyone_ to understand this
    simple 'theory' is astounding: if you doubt this lack of understanding
    read some of the ridiculous legislation coming out of Washington. It
    reeks of fear, reactionary thought, ignorance and a general lack of
    understanding.

    So, this is what the 'hackers' are doing, in my opinion. They are
    fighting control freaks and they deserve to win. You see, once you
    become big and well known, you are a 'leader' and you have exploited
    others to get where you are (I do not believe antionline is on this
    level, and I do not agree with the cracker attack on them). You have
    controlled information, held it from others, lied and generally
    exploited people either: less intelligent than yourself (that should be
    the worst crime in all U.S. law), or less knowledgeable than yourself
    (probably because you controlled the info in the first place).

    Don, I will repeat what I predicted some six years ago:

    INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS, COPYRIGHTS, AND JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING WE
    ARE ACCUSTOMED TO THAT HAS TO DO WITH CONTROLLING INFORMATION, WILL
    VANISH IN TIME, NO MATTER HOW PAINFUL IT MAY BE FOR THOSE LOSING ITS
    BENEFITS.

    FOR ENTREPRENEURS, FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND THIS FACT WILL RESULT IN
    BUSINESS FAILURE. PERIOD. THE RULES OF THE INDUSTRIAL AGE NO LONGER
    APPLY.

    YOU CANNOT STOP IT. NO ONE CAN.

    I wish all these prognosticators would get the picture!

    You wrote in your article that:


    "I don't think that gives me the right to break into his house and bust
    up his stuff. Yet it is O.K. for you guys to try and do that on a
    regular basis."

    Don, I see your point, but I just don't think the examples you juxtapose
    commute.

    "All hitting web pages does is screw up the free transfer of information
    on the net. Isn't that what you are fighting for?"

    Absolutely, but big sites like CNN, zdnet, microsoft, etc. are trying to
    _stymie_ the free flow of info. They are the friends of intellectual
    property rights advocates, Don! So standing against them is morally
    just. So your point is only true if the crackers are attacking the
    'underdogs', not the 'big guys'.

    IMHO,

    Peace

    Lloyd

  16. Re:monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ahem..excuse me? Monpolies exists wherever one company has nearly 100% control of a market segment.

    The government often has _nothin_ to do with it.

    'Natural' monopolies appear whenever someone owns a rare resource source (Cobalt, for example), owns or controls a distribution system that is extremely expensive or impossible to reproduce (water, the railroad in the Western US in the late 1800's, electrical grids, local phone systems), is uniquely situated geographically - to name just a few.

    'Artificial' monopolies are often built the way M$ or, in years past IBM, has done it. That is to say by creating or coopting standards in one market (OS's, mainframes) to influence penetration in another market - ie. the famous Netscape/IE war waged by M$ by calling the browser 'a part of the Windows OS'. They can also be built by outright sabotage or threats to one's competitors, by dumping, by predatory pricing agreements, etc. - to name a few.

  17. Re:dangers from my experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Amen. Now that's thinking through the question.

  18. Re:Open topics, my $0.02, IP rights... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    If you're interested in pursuing this line, a good starting point is Eben Moglen's essay "Anarchism Triumphant"

    There are also some other essays he's written in the same directory.

    chris

  19. Re:Find Hitler's 1939 speech... they'll buy it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    (Offtopic I KNOW!)

    Hey do you have more information on this?


    One of the things that made Hitler so dangerous was his rethoric power. I'm not surprised some of his speeches would still work today...

  20. Re:Do homework on your own. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, good point. People with remaining touch on reality will just go elsewhere, and let you zealots wage your jihad independant of reality, slowly rendering yourselves irrelevant in the coming revolution.

    Thanks for holding down the advance guard; too bad you were too busy focussing on the fight to see the war....

  21. Re:Do your own work loser. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yea - and I bet your one of those whinging gits who complained Mindcraft never asked for help setting up there Linux boxes. If they had I expect you would have said

    "Why don't you research things on your own instead of spamming slashdot? Are you going to ask us to configure your box for you as well? Don't be pathetic...."

    Whats pathetic is flaming a kid because he asked for help on his homework. If your really to important to be "sponged off" then you could have just ignored the artical rather than pumping your sorry ego by flaming the kid for not being as 3133T as you...

  22. Disability Access, the Standard Non-standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the big hassles I've come across developing web pages is cross-browser, cross-platform development. Internet Explorer has one kind of Document Object Model (DOM), for instance, and Netscape Navigator another, almost opposite DOM. (Makes JavaScript coding a real pain.) But what really irks me is how various browsers arbitrarily interpret W3C standards like HTML 4.

    HTML 4 has new tags for making web pages accessible to visually impaired or mobility restricted people. Some browsers recognize these tags, others don't. For example, Explorer can use embedded keyboard commands to access menus on a page while Navigator cannot, although the current versions of both supposedly support the HTML 4 standard. To make things worse, Explorer provides some HTML 4 standards on some platforms but not on others. (Explorer is particularly adept at that.)

    No wonder few developers are writing barrier free web pages. Who knows what platform or browser a user could be using.

  23. Re:monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Actually, a monopoly often has a lot better chance to exist in the long term in a totally free market than in a somewhat regulated one. The reason being that a true monopoly power have an extremely strong base to expand into new markets (hence anti trust laws). They can use their monopoly to establish strong bases in other markets.

    The only proven way to counteract that is by intervening to restrict monopolists from certain busines practices.

  24. Re:Kids who expect other people to do their resear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rather "Kid who dares ask questions instead of just digging up the same old sources over and over again". Education is 90% about learning to ask the right questions. If you don't lear that, it doesn't matter one bit if you've learned everything else - you'll learn a lot more by knowing how to ask the right questions and synthesize information from the responses than any book can learn you.

  25. ummmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One major "hazard" / "danger" I can think of is in fact the very soul of the internet - free speech and opinion.

    People don't always agree with people, and don't always like what other people like. And quite obviously from flaming and spamming and nuking and shite like that it shows.

    Internet's like life - except you can disconnect from it as many times as you want.

    Maybe this post will make sense to someone...
    Hell, I just blurted it out...

    "and the people bowed and prayed - to the neon god they made"

  26. Re:Thinking too much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My little sister just got out of elementary. From what she tells me everyone in her classes is wired, and a lot of that is due to the internet available at her school. It gives me a warm, fuzzy glow to know that the majority of the next generation seems to be becoming as geeky as me.

    The internet, video games and japanese toys leaking across the pacific all seem to be contributing.

    Its come to the point where I keep getting asked back to talk about what I do in front of her classes. Makes me laugh to remember what it used to be like.

    uhhh, whats this topic about again? :-)

    "Why don't you just go home and play with your joystick" ---Idiot in Junior High.

    --S

  27. Re:Slightly OT Philly Inquirer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeez. I thought you were making that up, but then I read the article. What is the world coming to? How ignorant do people have to be before they actually start thinking about what they say? Oh well, I'm off to the "Dark Net" now...

    Just another AC

  28. Re:Do homework on your own. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But they'll usually be...

    a) Unverifiable, unless you do your own work.
    b) Questionable, i.e. not necessarily from
    reputable sources.
    c) Icky to cite (cite a URL, say?)

    Besides, research in a library is ACTIVE -- you have to look for it yourself, and can often guess the relative quality of a reference; plus, more of what you get can be 'raw' data, letting the writer form his own opinions rather than amassing predrawn conclusions. The 'Net equivalent would be searching Google, rtfm.mit.edu, and so forth; not asking a group of strangers for comments.

  29. Good Title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a fine title -- consider the "Perils of Pauline".

    Now, that *could* be interpreted as meaning "the dangers you'll face if you have anything to do with Pauline", but it was used to mean "the dangers facing Pauline".

    Same thing here.

  30. A psycological aspect of the net by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the net you have less personal accountability, so people are a little less reserved then normal. While this can be good for some people who are normally very shy, it also allows a greater amount of hostility then normal situations. The large amount of flames put out by ACs are a good example. Another problem of on line comminication is that we can't rely on body language or tone. This can tell alot about the person's temperment and will possibly change the meaning of something that could be taken as hostile to be relatively benign. This tends to promote a polarization of online society based on a certain fundamental beliefs, instead of around racial/class/gender basis. Having said this the ability to share large amounts of information allow a decrease in hostility or can form societies. It allows people who are marginalized in a small comunity to find that there are people like themselves. If you share information a bout your local society, it can also be the vector of change, Russia is an example of where the internet helped bring change.

    The biggest hazard on the internet is that there are alot of opinnions here. Not all of them are correct, and most will be disregarded if this is a serious report. To help the most we should give links, (I can just see my old teachers eyes bulge if I cited an AC) they might be more cridible.

    I would like to say that it is nice of the teacher top get students to write their propaganda. Although looking back at my Catholic schooling I suppose it isn't new. We did have internet access, though.

    A. Hypocrite

  31. Re:monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is all very silly. Monopolies exist because of barriers to entry. The most common barrier to entry takes the form of "if you compete with me, I will call the police" -- as in post office, etc. That is the most common source of monopoly -- government. All of this talk about monopolies being more likely to persist in free markets is a crock.

    Monopoly also depends a lot on market definition, which is often quite arbitrary. The government's suit against Intel originally centered around "high-end PC processors." Why is that a distinct market? Why not "all PC processors"? Why not "all processors, PC and otherwise"? Because only by framing it in a certain sense could the government credibly argue monopoly power.

    And, of course, since around here "monopoly/OSS issues" is code for "Microsoft sucks," even if you think MS is a monopoly, the only way they maintain it is through government intervention in the form of copyright enforcement. Copyrights are just government granted monopolies, accepted because their perceived benefits (incentive to innovate) outweigh the costs (higher prices and lower output). Some of us, myself among them, think that's a reasonable conclusion. Others think copyright isn't worth it for software (but may be for books and other media). But let's not pretend that monopoly comes from anything except the visible hand of government.

  32. Re:Main hazard - government interference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup, look how they're interfering with MS.

  33. I once wrote a similar paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    except when i was in high school, the Internet hadn't yet been demonized, nor was it the hot topic it is now. The school gave out free email accounts, and I was one of about 10 who took advantage of them. Anyway, in my pre-calculus class the teacher had us write a paper on a technological subject(a paper in a high school math class? yeah, she was pretty useless as a teacher). I chose the Internet, and when I turned in my paper, she accused me of plagarism, since she didn't understand how a senior in high school could be educated about a subject the school didn't teach, that she was ignorant of, and at this point was mainly the domain of universities and government organizations. I made a big stink about her accusations, and that, combined with her ineffectiveness as a teacher, led to her getting fired. I know it's off subject a little, but the moral is this: if your teacher isn't the type that respects students' intelligence, dumb down your report to a level that she||he can understand. Otherwise, she||he might feel stupid that a student knows more than them, and mark you down out of spite.

  34. Re:shove it up your ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fucking loser. Get a life. Get paid for writng drivers, you fucking moron.

  35. Re:Thinking too much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not only does the pope have a web page, but he has the whole domain too!

    fritz

    "this message sent on 100% recycled electrons"

  36. Internet Standards Paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hi mog. Here is link to a paper I just wrote on Open vs Proprietary
    internet standards and how proprietary can lead toward anti-trust and
    sap interoperability.
    http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~jgoldsch/standards.h tml

    hope this and my references will help.
    goodluck
    -Jason

  37. Re:dangers from my experience by William+Aoki · · Score: 1

    more dangers, from working as a sysadmin and being bored in high-school computer classes:

    4. Don't try to hotswap processors, memory, and cards that aren't supposed to be hotswapped. Even if you're bored.

    5. Don't touch circuit boards or connectors with metal objects when the system is turned on (altough abusing the video card will result in pretty displays).

    6. Make sure the power switch is really attached to what you think it is before pressing it.

    7. Mice and other objects with cables should not be hung from ceiling fans unless you like missiles flying at you. (Yes, this really happened in my computer class while the teacher wasn't looking)

  38. Thinking too much by Skyshadow · · Score: 3
    I can see your teacher hitting the "Independant Thought Alarm" button under her desk right now.

    This question is interesting for the fact that you're writing a "Hazards of the Internet" paper at all. What kind of in-class material was taught before you were given the assignment (if any)? I can just *hear* what 99% of the teachers and administrators at my catholic high school would have had to say about the internet...

    Also interesting, I suppose, will be all the otehr student's answers to this -- it'd be neat to see how many of them buy into the mass media's "internet is evil" stereotype and talk exclusively about Columbine/Duke Nukem/Porn/Nazi Web Sites/etc. After all, this is the generation who should know better, having had the net around during their formative years.

    ----

    --
    Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
    1. Re:Thinking too much by spykermj · · Score: 1

      >Actually, all but the most reactionary people and organizations seem to think that the Internet is more trouble than it's worth.

      >To be sure, the Internet is a hazardous environment, but all but the most reactionary recognize that the rewards outweigh the risks.

      Make up your mind man!

    2. Re:Thinking too much by remande · · Score: 2
      I can just *hear* what 99% of the teachers and administrators at my catholic high school would have had to say about the internet...

      Actually, all but the most reactionary people and organizations seem to think that the Internet is more trouble than it's worth. I've seen an Internet-connected computer lab at a Catholic grammar school. They certainly had posters telling the kids how to avoid getting "mugged" (never reveal your snailmail address tends to be the biggie).

      To be sure, the Internet is a hazardous environment, but all but the most reactionary recognize that the rewards outweigh the risks. While I hesitate to use the analogy again, it's much like a road system. Roads are hazardous; people who don't understand how to use them have a good possibility of being run over. We accept the hazards because most of us feel that the benefits of roads outweighs the hazards, even with the huge body count roads are possibly responsible.

      There are a number of data points to back this up; take the most conservative people and/or agendas you can find, and run a search engine over them. One data point stands above the crowd, especially after discussing Catholic schools; even the Pope has a Web site.

      --

      --The basis of all love is respect

    3. Re:Thinking too much by remande · · Score: 2
      >Actually, all but the most reactionary people and organizations seem to think that the Internet is more trouble than it's worth. >To be sure, the Internet is a hazardous environment, but all but the most reactionary recognize that the rewards outweigh the risks. Make up your mind man!

      D'oh!

      The second statement is correct. I got my inequalities reversed earlier. Sorry.

      --

      --The basis of all love is respect

    4. Re:Thinking too much by jimmyCarter · · Score: 1

      It's amazing how things are changing. In the early days of the net, friends thought I was a madman sitting in front of my machine for hours absorbing information.

      Now, my little brother (age 16) has grown up with it and most of his schoolmates communicate via ICQ. It's AMAZING to see his "buddy list" with two hundred ppl on it. "Hey, wanna go to the football game this Friday? ICQ me."

      Peace, and good luck with your paper.

      --

      -- jimmycarter
  39. Re:monopolies cannot etc. by Chris+Johnson · · Score: 1

    That is an assumption.

  40. Do your own work loser. by gavinhall · · Score: 0

    Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:

    Why don't you research things on your own instead of spamming slashdot? Are you going to ask us to write the paper for you as well? Don't be pathetic. The biggest hazard on the net is fools like you.

    Unlike many other ask slashdot posts, this one has no relation or benefit to readers. Its just a lazy ass trying to sponge of us.

  41. shove it up your ass by gavinhall · · Score: 0

    Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:

    If he'd asked for help with linux I would have been the first to answer. If he had complained about a driver I'd written I would have fixed it immediatly. kiss my ass why don't you.

    1. Re:shove it up your ass by gavinhall · · Score: 0

      Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:

      your response is as inarticulate as it is incongruous- what does getting paid to write drivers have to do with anything?

  42. freenet by gavinhall · · Score: 1
    Posted by linuxrulz:

    Well, if your looking for info on freedom from censorship then you might be interested in the freenet project... the web site is at

    http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/~iic/4yp/

  43. Main hazard - government interference by gavinhall · · Score: 1

    Posted by Vik Olliver (at home):

    The main hazard to the internet in my humble opinion is that governments want to censor and regulate it to death. Just ask an Australian user.

    I hope that by now the internet has sufficient momentum behind it for people to develop protocols and communications networks that reduce the ability for governments or corporations to control our communications. But I ain't sure.

    Vik :v)

  44. One reference to the incident by gavinhall · · Score: 1
    Posted by roop:

    Looks like it was 1932. In his book Declarations of Independence: Cross-Examining American Ideology, Howard Zinn recounts the story as follows:

    In the 1960s, a student at Harvard Law School addressed parents and alumni with these words:

    "The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might. And the republic is in danger. Yes! danger from within and without. We need law and order! Without law and order our nation cannot survive."

    When the applause died down, the student quietly told his listeners: "These words were spoken in 1932 by Adoff Hitler."

  45. Focus on one thing by gavinhall · · Score: 3

    Posted by d106ene5:

    I would focus on the pseudo-monopoly held by NSI and its ramifications for internet development. This story certainly has the juicy details to make for an interesting paper.

    While open-source software has played a role in developing the net (TCP/IP, BIND, Sendmail, etc), I don't think the connection is particularly interesting in itself. In the early days of the internet, the open/closed source debate wasn't as apparent as it is now.

  46. Re:Do homework on your own. by Danse · · Score: 1

    Actually, if you ask something on /. you will usually get quite a few links to raw data, as well as links to several different views on the matter. It's really a great place to start digging.

    --
    It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds. - Captain Hammer
  47. Re:I did something a lot like that last schoolyear by sql*kitten · · Score: 1
    grappler and mog, you are resourceful fellows. THIS is how to REALLY get an education IMNSHO.


    This must be sarcasm, right? Or do you really think the way to get an education is to read web bulletin boards!?

  48. Re:Do homework on your own. by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 1

    Asking on the net _is_ doing your own research.

    About the idea that this somehow prevent people from forming their own opinion (while studying in a library somehow doesn't), remember the old description of Usenet: "Usenet is great! Ask a question on Usenet, and within five minutes yuu will have at least three answers. Unfortunately, all three will be different."

  49. Re:I did something a lot like that last schoolyear by tzanger · · Score: 1

    This must be sarcasm, right? Or do you really think the way to get an education is to read web bulletin boards!?

    I think he was referring to going out and doing your own scratching beneath the surface, instead of just taking in and believing what they feed you in school.

    Really, which is worse? the biased opinion of the education system or the biased opinion of thousands of /. articles? I can certainly tell you quickly enough which has more variety and at least makes you question what you read.

  50. Re:heh heh heh by tzanger · · Score: 1

    see 'Fahrenheit 451' (foreign translation 'Centigrade 233')

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHA Careful, I am certain you could ask the admins of Amazon.com and find out people searched for the foreign translation. :-)

    Made my day anyway...

  51. Re:Do homework on your own. by BluBrick · · Score: 1
    "Other side? On Slashdot? Surely you jest!"

    Of course /. has another side, in much the same way as a moebius strip has :)

    --
    Ahh - My eye!
    The doctor said I'm not supposed to get Slashdot in it!
  52. one resource by monk · · Score: 1

    A handy resource for quotes and background would be Where Wizards Stay Up Late: The Origins of the Internet.
    Katie Hafner, Matthew Lyon
    Touchstone Books
    reprint 1998

    It should be in your public library and it even has a colon in the title which should look great in your bibliography.
    Hope it helps.

    --
    [-- Trust the Monkey --]
  53. monopoly by quadra · · Score: 1

    a quick note: Monopolies cannot exist in the long term in a free market. Those that do are nearly always government enforced.

  54. Standards and standard wars by cjr · · Score: 1
    A very Internet-aware and readable economic book about standards and standard wars is "Information Rules - A Strategic Guide to the Network Economy" by Carl Shapiro and Hal R. Varian.

    You can find more information on the associated website: http://www.inforules.com.

    --
    -cjr
  55. Re:Integration of the Internet and Everyday Life by petchema · · Score: 1

    Fine plan. No, go back to reality and Chaos Theory... Boom! :)

  56. classical example: Java by RelliK · · Score: 3

    That's an easy one.
    A few month ago news.com had a nice story called "Microsoft's Holy War on Java" summarizing what happened. That alone should be enough for a sizable paper.
    Then there's also DHTML and the much-hyped XML. Both of them allow a certain company to proprierarize standards.
    As for intellectual property and stuff, you can write about the domain name rules. About a month ago there was a story on /. about theos.com. The OpenBSD developer was sued by Theos Software for having theos.com domain even though he registered it before the company even existed. Of course there are also people who register a domain with the only purpose to sell it to someone else.
    You could also write about spam...

    hope that helps ;-)

    --
    ___
    If you think big enough, you'll never have to do it.
  57. To Cliff or mog by iago · · Score: 1

    Eheheh, Long time reader, very rare poster.

    I would like to see the final results of the paper. I am not sure how you feel about throwing your writing to the sharks that occupy this arena.
    But I am curious about which opinion you will take and your personal stand on this issue especially with regard to the reaction of your profs. I got sent to the resident HS psych when I turned in a paper on the death penalty. (For those who are curious, read HL Mencken's view on it, his view was my senior paper thesis.)

    I think the slashdot.org readership deserve to view it.

    Thanks,
    Don
    don@bigdon.com

    --
    Worst Sig Ever
  58. Re:Do homework on your own. by dynamo · · Score: 1

    Oh shut up. This is a damn fine way to do research for a paper. I can't think of a more technically literate community he could have tapped into. Obviously he has to form his own opinion to write a paper at all. There is more honesty and unbiased (read: un-bought) opinion in one day's worth of slashdot than six months of news.com

  59. Write your Paper! Good Luck! by craw · · Score: 2

    On a similar note, I would like to add the following. When I was in High School (many, many moons ago), I used to write relatively more technically oriented papers for some of my classes (English and Social Studies). Now that I think about it, I used to do the same when I was in college (e.g., history classes). This went over like a drunken sailor in a monastery. The teachers (and in many instances, the other students) would essentially say, that is great but is it really that important?

    In hindsight, this illustrated to me the vast cultural and intellectual differences between the nerds and the rest of the world. Most ppl do not care about technical issues despite that fact that they are very important when it comes down to the pragmatic issues of implementation. Ignorance of the technical issues allows one to just wave their magic wand to make things better, to make problems disappear. Unfortunately, the problems (as perceive by the masses) will not disappear unless you understand aspects related to implementation.

    Hence, to the High School student: Educate the masses! Write your paper! Ignorance is a terrible thing to waste.

    I too will be interested in finding how the other students stereotype the internet.

  60. Read Cliff Stoll's "Silicon Snake Oil" by Monty+Worm · · Score: 1
    Without trying to actually have much of an opinion, I'd suggest you read a copy of Clifford Stoll's "Silicon Snake Oil".

    For the the lazy/poor/librarily-challenged, his basic premise is that if we rely on computers too much, we forget about reasoning and other important things like that.

    Cliff's earlier book "The Cuckoo's Egg" on his exploits to catch two West Germans trying to break into security systems is also entertaining.

    --
    ... and today's pet project has ... been discarded for lack of time.
    1. Re:Read Cliff Stoll's "Silicon Snake Oil" by mpk · · Score: 2

      Yeah - I'd second the recommendation of "Silicon Snake Oil". I don't necessarily agree with everything Cliff writes, but there are certainly a lot of good points made.

      The social aspects of online communication are, I'm sure, well known to most slashdot folks, but certain things do need to be looked at, or at least thought about. Is it good for people to do all their communicating from behind a terminal rather than in person? Is it really healthy to prefer spending a day on your own browsing the web or MUDding to going out with friends
      or walking in the hills?

      Myself, I'm fascinated by the difference between people's writing styles on Usenet, IRC, whatever, and the way they are when you meet them in real life. Can the constant switching between online persona and real-life personality affect your
      image of who you really are, or does it improve
      your self-image by letting you explore aspects that you wouldn't usually explore in reality?

      Don't get me wrong here - I love the Internet, I've been around it for the best part of a decade, I wouldn't want to be without it, but sometimes I wonder whether the "digital utopia" that so many are touting is really going to bring that many benefits to society, or whether it is, as Cliff said, snake oil, or smoke and mirrors.

      And yup, I know this is supposed to be a technical discussion, but there's more to the Net than just routers and hosts.

    2. Re:Read Cliff Stoll's "Silicon Snake Oil" by Siege · · Score: 1

      The social aspects of online communication are, I'm sure, well known to most slashdot folks, but certain things do need to be looked at, or at least thought about. Is it good for people to do all their communicating from behind a terminal rather than in person? Is it really healthy to prefer spending a day on your own browsing the web or MUDding to going out with friends or walking in the hills?

      No. It's not healthy. But often, these people have no "outside" friends to turn to, and either no idea or no willingness to get some. Personally, I spend a lot of time online because I've lost touch with all the folks I used to hang out and play games with.. our gathering place closed, and we had nowhere to meet.. and then the active members all moved. I still have friends, though, and still keep in verbal, visual, and tactile "touch" with people every day. But every night, when I've got nothing better to do, I get online to read and play.

      Myself, I'm fascinated by the difference between people's writing styles on Usenet, IRC, whatever, and the way they are when you meet them in real life. Can the constant switching between online persona and real-life personality affect your image of who you really are, or does it improve your self-image by letting you explore aspects that you wouldn't usually explore in reality?

      First, you misuse "affect". Of course this stuff affects you; it's almost always a learning experience to log on and look around.

      On to the next thing. I've made a personal project of analyzing self-descriptions of MU* players' characters, and the aspects of themselves that pop up in conversation. There's an interesting correlation between the feeling evoked by a description and the feelings evoked by the person's speech and actions; and an even more interesting thing happens when those feelings are dissonant. Attitude plays a big part in this. While I don't have solid numbers or relational charts, I have learned to stay away from most "twinks". The next step would be to meet with more of these people, and especially more of them I've met online already. But before that, I need a car.. this town is only now relearning public transportation.

      And yup, I know this is supposed to be a technical discussion, but there's more to the Net than just routers and hosts.

      Something I recognized within two months of first getting a connection from a university. Life is out there, if you can see it.. another draw to the folks who feel a need to disconnect from reality. All the serious decades-long studies on the Internet's true effects on mental health are probably just taking off, now that all the hype is getting old.

      But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

    3. Re:Read Cliff Stoll's "Silicon Snake Oil" by fable2112 · · Score: 3


      First off, I'll "third" the recommendation.

      Beyond that, something else good to look at might be the old /. discussion on programmer burnout. Pretty important social-issue-wise, I think.

      And as for my own thoughts/personal experiences on Net-as-social-circle (warning, this could get LONG):

      I made many LOCAL friends on the 'net my first two semesters at SUNY Geneseo. One of my floormates and his old friends had put together a MUD, and soon I was "living on" it, and so were a lot of other people at my school. It also gave me a way to keep in touch with a friend from my previous school who was in Michigan.

      I later branched out, started hanging out on BBSes, and I have literally talked to someone on every continent including Antarctica (OK, so that was my uncle, who was doing Navy research there). I have at least six net-friends in Australia who swear that the first thing they'll do if they win the lottery is send me a plane ticket. I've been sent TimTams, and I have sent Reeses' Peanut Butter Cups. I was one of two American sysops on an Australian BBS (and the other also went to my school).

      I've found Web pages that have made me smile and say, "So I'm not the only one who thinks this! Maybe I'm not crazy after all ...." I've dated people I met online (am still friends with most of 'em). I now run an Amber game that is about 1/4 old RL friends of mine, 1/4 old net-friends of mine, and 1/2 people from a mailing list or their friends who said it sounded fun and wanted to play. I've gotten to meet a couple of the new friends at Pennsic, and have become especially close to one of them.

      Now all this is lovely, but the Net has had a down-side. I was online when I should have been in class or doing work. My grades suffered, etc. However, in my particular case, all the Net was doing was giving me extra delivered-to-the-door opportunities to "hang out" with my friends and read interesting information, two things I did too much of WITHOUT the Net. (I also had problems doing library research because I would invariably get distracted by something else.)

      In my experience, there seem to be three kinds of (for lack of a better term) "net addicts":

      1. The ones who (for instance) had a tight circle of friends in high school or through something like CTY that then scatters everywhere, and who use the Net to try to hold on to those friends, sometimes at the expense of making friends or finding things to do in their real, physical location.

      2. Info-junkies. (I admit, I fall into this category.) Generally, people who have a fairly obscure or specialized interest or set of interests. They'll search the net for every scrap of info on their chosen categories, spend tons of time on Usenet debating the finer points of their interets, etc. They generally get "hooked" because there aren't enough local people who share their obsession, or else all the "locals" are online as well. (This has been me with various topics: Amber, the band Rush, and Norse pagan/Viking history, to name three recent ones.) The net.goths might be a good example of this as well.

      3. (IMHO, the most dangerous.) The folks who are genuinely using the Net as a way to avoid dealing with people face-to-face. Can be an outgrowth of either of the above. I've also seen this with some of the les/bi/gay teenagers I've talked to online, especially if they come from conservative households and are scared to come out. The Net becomes the only place that knows their "secret," and basically becomes a security blanket. Alternatively, I've seen this with people who just don't like themselves and are putting forth a new "persona" online.

      Now with all three types, there can be problems as far as avoidance of reality. But the first two are easy to at least cut down on -- find compatible local people (over the net if you must!) and make an effort to spend time with them.

      The last one is the one that scares me. A.J. Chodan (my real name) isn't THAT different of a person from fable2112. Or at the very least, there is nothing within fable2112 that *isn't* also part of A.J. I'm long-winded and opinionated IRL, too. (And that said, I'll shut up now!) :)

      --
      "Somebody exploded a letter-bomb today ... but it wasn't anybody I knew" -The Moody Blues, "Dear Diar
  61. Re:Do homework on your own. by poink · · Score: 1

    As I have been told the revolution will not be broadcasted, do you know if it will be posted? And if so, where? (SegFault?)

  62. I don't believe it. by GlenRaphael · · Score: 1
    If you're referring to this speech, your claim makes no sense. Hitler's speeches were full of references to the events, places and people of the time; in order to claim one as present day you'd have to do a fair bit of rewriting or at least selective editing.

    If you're thinking of a different speech, which one?

    --
    I play Nerd-Folk!
  63. Re:Do homework on your own. by Midnight+Coder · · Score: 0

    If you think it's so bad then what the hell are you doing here? Sheesh.

  64. Re:Do homework on your own. by Midnight+Coder · · Score: 1

    Good for you. I've got no problem with your post. I was talking to the other guy, the one who was whining on Slashdot about Slashdot being crap.

    That kinda thing just gets on my nerves that's all. If s/he doesn't like it here why don't they go elsewhere instead of adding to the noise.

  65. "The general issue of standardizing protocols" by artdodge · · Score: 1
    The HTTP world has been going through the agony of this recently, as there are currently seven distinct documents out there calling themselves "HTTP/1.1" (RFC2068 and the six internet drafts that followed it, the last of which is pending internet standard approval), and many/most servers do not uniformly imnplement any of them. (Slashdot is an example; while the Apache server running /. claims to be HTTP/1.1, it regularly commits all sorts of SHOULD NOTs, and I seem to recall uncovering a few MUST NOTS as well.) Implementing a protocol which is a moving target is nightmarish; what's worse, you end up with a large number of pseudo-conformant (i.e. past-conformant) implementations that all need to talk with each other. Throw into the mix an application like the Web which is richly application-heterogeneous and business-intensive, and a population of web content and web engine developers who are oblivious to most points of the HTTP/1.1 specification, and you have what amounts to a simmering interoperability nightmare on your hands. And what happens next? Browsers incorporate all sorts of hacks to deal with the incongruities. Caches and proxies get twice as many, since they're expecting to talk with both broken servers and munged clients. And in the end, noone knows where problems actually are because noone is talking the straight protocol, noone is rejecting things the spec says you MUST reject, all because breaking these broken compatibility hacks could interrupt business and inconvenience a customer.

    So developing sufficiently complex specifications in an open environment with live business-critical implementors ain't much fun.

    -Adam (an HTTP/1.1 server/cache/proxy author)

  66. 6.085 Ethics and Law on the Elec. Frontier by jab · · Score: 1

    Much of the reading materials for 6.085, a college course taught jointly between MIT and Harvard Law School, are available on line here. This was a great class and the reading materials are quite thorough. Topics included privacy issues, free speech issues, and computer crime.

    1. Re:6.085 Ethics and Law on the Elec. Frontier by Beezer · · Score: 1

      The course is actually 6.095 and the correct link is here. If you have time, there are many resources located at MIT. You could search their collection of webservers or go straight to the source at the lab of computer science. Good luck, but keep in mind that it's hard to find a substitute for real books.

  67. Developing the Internet by @i2d · · Score: 1

    Well, when I got involved with it, 20 years ago,
    we were just a handful of people sharing scientific
    data. We had absolutely no idea that
    it would evolve into a worldwide popular
    phenomenon. I still get a kick out of seeing
    URLs on the sides of city buses.

  68. heh heh heh by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I've been quietly chuckling to myself about all the 'hazards' and 'dangers' of sitting in front of a monitor with a keyboard and a mouse :)
    Warning!! Dangerous Web Site Ahead!!!

    Other than driving someone bezerk, the only dangers are a little obesity and maybe eye strain.

    Kinda reminds one of the 'good ol' days' of book burning, censorship, burning at the stake by the authorities - see 'Fahrenheit 451' (foreign translation 'Centigrade 233') - to save people from 'dangerous ideas'. The authorities hate that, not because it's bad for people, but because it threatens their authority.

    Chuck

    The Web is mightier than the Bomb!

    --
    try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
  69. Ammunition by sig · · Score: 1

    It looks to me like there are some faculty members out there who want to bash the internet, but don't know enough about it to do so. They fear what they do not understand, and are looking for ammo. What ever happened to presenting both sides to the arguement? If I were you, I would be very wary about any negative comments I made about the net.

    Paranoid? Yes, but it's the only reason I'm still alive.

    cya

  70. Hazards by looie · · Score: 1

    My suggestion would be to focus on intellectual property (so-called) and privacy issues. Runaway legislation restricting use of copyrighted material and granting large powers of surveillance to gov'ts are at the top of the list. The World Intellectual Property Organization has approved recommendations that would make it easy for large companies to claim domain names and take them away from current users. The US Congress is considering legislation that would make online databases of facts copyrighted material -- meaning you would no longer be able to abstract facts from those databases & use them in your report without written permission or payment of a fee. The "Echelon" project has been in the news -- the US, New Zealand, Australian & British gov'ts have been monitoring all satellite transmissions of email, telephone calls and faxes. The British gov't was considering but now has dropped legislation that would have required that all ISPs to maintain "key escrows" for all encrypted data transfers, and allow the British law enforcement agencies access to those keys whenever they asked for it. The Australian parliament has just passed a law requiring all Australian ISPs to block internet access to foreign sites that are on a censor list -- a censor list to be developed by the Australian Film Board!

    &c &c &c

    I would have emailed a copy of this post but there's something wrong with your email address. You should fix it.

    mp

    --
    "The secret to strong security: less reliance on secrets." -- Whitfield Diffie
  71. Re:I did something a lot like that last schoolyear by jms · · Score: 1

    Sure. Read & post. It's easy to snowball a
    teacher, but you can't snowball a newsgroup or
    bulletin board. Eventually, after a couple of rounds of posting articles with weak arguments, bad spelling/grammar, and logical errors, and being royally flamed and embarrassed, you learn how to write ... not because you are being graded, but because you want to be taken seriously.

    - jms

  72. Wrong title by joshv · · Score: 1

    Why call it "Hazards of the Internet" when that is not the topic? Call it "The Hazards of developing the Internet", or "Growing pains in the developing online world", etc...

    You title certainly will catch some attention from the teacher in light of recent news events, but after they read the paper and find the title has nothing to do with the content I think they will be less impressed.

    -josh

    1. Re:Wrong title by glyciren · · Score: 1
      From what i got from it he had to choose from a topic list, and he chose that topic, only he plans to think outside the box and interpret it differently, and so he wants the input of some of the people in this slashdot community, which is probably the one with the most input to give. Glyciren

      Glyciren

      --

      Glyciren
      "Well that didn't work... try this jumper instead.. oops."

  73. Damn the ring! by 198348726583297634 · · Score: 1
    If the thing communicates by radio waves at all, why couldn't you wear a second ring that sends out massive rf interference?

    What happens if we start dropping little "rf bombs" around town? next to every little grocery? They don't have to be tricky devices.. just something with a battery and an antenna, sending out garbage as loud as it can.

    (Would using a reception system like GPS units use defeat the bombardment of noise?)

  74. I did something a lot like that last schoolyear by grappler · · Score: 2

    I go to Arapahoe High School in Littleton, CO (about 6 or 7 miles from Columbine) so this internet thing is getting a lot of attention around here.

    Fall semester last year, I needed more social studies credit to graduate. I added an economics class. It was easy, stupid, and boring, so I quit. Instead, I arranged to do an independant study. The topic: "Law and the Internet" (it had to be social studies credit, remember.)

    Over the course of the semester, my day to day thing that I did for the study was basically to read and participate in slashdot discussions and sometimes go roaming around the internet for more info on my specific topics (I didn't even have to give continuous updates. It was a sweet deal)

    My topics were encryption, censorship issues (porn/hate sites) and intellectual property. I learned waaaaaaay more just doing the day-to-day slashdot thing than I ever would have in school. I also liked getting several angles on each issue. Yes, I know that people think the /. community sees these things in black and white, but it just isn't so. Especially if you read at -1.

    For the study, I wrote 3 or 4 rambling katz style essays and finished off the semester with a powerpoint presentation in our school's brand new forum with a huge video screen and speaker system. The teachers (and principal) loved it - especially the powerpoint presentation. I snuck in some non social studies related stuff by including in the presentation a complete explanation of public key cryptosystems, complete with animated diagrams. And they actually understood it! (I wasn't too heavy on the math) That whole experience was definately cool.

    I think you will be plesantly surprised by the whole experience when it is over and done. I was. In my presentation, I'm sure I said things the administration didn't agree with, but they were very impressed anyway, because I made the case pretty well (I presented each of the 3 issues from 2 or 3 sides, and then took a stand and argued it.)

    It made a bigger impression than I could have imagined. By the next day, every teacher in the school had heard about it, and were actually congratulating me, even though they weren't there! They have looked at me differently ever since.

    So anyway, to wrap up, I say put enough effort into this that it will be something that you can be proud of. It will be fun and your teachers will probably be genuinely surprised and impressed.

    --
    Vidi, Vici, Veni
    1. Re:I did something a lot like that last schoolyear by umoto · · Score: 1

      grappler and mog, you are resourceful fellows. THIS is how to REALLY get an education IMNSHO. The people on /., though they tend to have a well-defined bias, are very intelligent and insightful. For the most part we talk just to stimulate the mind. Opinions are strong but are often backed up with well-written, and mispelled, arguments.

      With exceptions for certain people, I never implicitly trust anyone's judgment on any issue. That is a strength and a weakness. It means I like to do in-depth research on issues that matter to me, but I simply cannot listen to a lecture spewed forth by the common educator. And I especially can't read a history book without questioning the validity of most of the analyses made by the authors.

      So Slashdot is a real research tool. The issues surrounding software licenses, which appears to be the topic of mog's paper, are increasingly difficult to grasp and resolve. The last thing you want to do is read something from an encyclopedia. Through research, you want to form an opinion that can be backed up solidly with facts.

      That kind of research is what people need to learn to do. Educators are supposed to prepare students for the workforce, right? And do we really need people that are no better than robots?

      If I were writing this paper, I would try to give the reader a vision of the process of creating the Internet. If I remember correctly, first they just wanted to be able to get military communications from point A to point C even if point B had been destroyed. Once that was working, they started tinkering with doing university-level research. Then they realized they could send personal messages. Each stage led in a natural way to the next stage. It was difficult to see where the project would be in ten years, but all issues somehow worked themselves out. The future of the Internet will be the same.

      Now here's the best part--you don't have to agree with me in order to get something meaningful out of what I have to say! Other comments will be posted that say education should be wrapped up in a neat little package or that the Internet, and especially /., is too wild to be considered a research tool. For all we know they may be right!

      I for one stick to the opinions that you should never accept forcefed info, that every view can be validly disputed, and that teachers should encourage students to *DOUBT* what they are taught.

    2. Re:I did something a lot like that last schoolyear by Siege · · Score: 1

      That depends. Once the basic math, reading, and science are out of the way, education is really about in-depth learning on specific topics. Basic skills are re-taught in college because they were never learned in high school, due to whatever process blocks the actual material from entering the students' heads.

      Past what is *required* of formal education, I do happen to think that you can learn from many informal sources, including Web-based BBS systems. And what about home-schooling, anyway? How formal does that have to be? (entirely different topic, so I'll leave it be for now)

  75. What did you end up doing? by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    So, uh... how did the paper go? :-)

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  76. One weakness of Slashdot as a research tool by HiThere · · Score: 1

    One weakness of Slashdot as a research tool is that the contributors can't correct misstatements. I know that once I tried for an hour (off and on) to find a post that I had made so that I could post a correction after it. Never did find the posting, though I assume that it eventually showed up. Wrong. And uncorrected.

    Folk need to be able to edit their own pieces, at least by posting add-on notes. Sometimes flagrant mistakes just can't be corrected.

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    1. Re:One weakness of Slashdot as a research tool by umoto · · Score: 1

      HiThere,

      Hmm? I just looked at your user info, which lists 20 of your recent 39 postings. You might try clicking your user name at the top of the page once you've logged in; that should give you your user info.

      In fact I look at my own user info page regularly to find out when people have replied to my comments. Good feature, Rob!

      It would be nice if we could edit our own stuff, but Rob seems to have an interesting theory of how /. should work and part of it is that you can add to what's been said but never delete anything. I've seen things that Rob might have wanted to rescind, but didn't. I've also said some things that sounded really stupid later. In fact, my user name is wrong. I just found out it's misspelled. It should be "yamato", not "umoto". How do I change it without having to create a new account?

      ... ByeNow.

  77. Kids who expect other people to do their research? by Gumber · · Score: 1

    Sorry, I couldn't resist.

  78. Open topics, my $0.02, IP rights... by Anonymous+Shepherd · · Score: 2

    I guess one of the biggest issues concerning the Internet is the ease of copying digital media, and the concomittant problems of ownership, compensation, and distribution rights.

    Take for example mp3s and their relatively easy access. What is intellectual property worth when production costs and such dilute the value? In terms of costs of bandwidth, file size, song quality, and the unquantifiable/unqualifiable pleasure or utility, how do you determine value? Economically, digital media is worthless because of oversupply; not that it isn't worth owning, but because there is so much(infinite, really) available that prices drop to download times and internet access issues.

    How should/will the music industry respond to that? How should money, profit, distribution, etc be handled? Is it good or bad?

    Same issues with movies, like the rogue Phantom Menace CDs floating around. Or video games. Or applications. Is anything truly worth $400 when it only costs some time, a couple of burned CDs, and ISP connection charges? Is Microsoft actually cheating us by charging us $400 for their Office Suite when it costs mere dollars to download? Or are we cheating Microsoft for not paying the price *they* choose to set?

    How does market economics and dynamic change, when the Internet can literally make interaction personal and 1:1 as well as nameless, faceless, and substanceless?

    Have fun. This is my $0.02

    -AS

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  79. eavesdropping by gmeb · · Score: 1

    Talking about ethernet, you could mention everyone can tap into your communications very easily. Backbones are less straightforward, but they too can be tapped.
    You could mention both the security issues involved (passwords out in the open), as well as privacy issues.
    You could conclude with a strong argument for the use of encryption, and the release of the export laws involved.

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  80. Re:Interpretation will get you a bad grade by umoto · · Score: 1

    That is a good outline you wrote (which I bet will be used verbatim by someone in the class BTW). As a teacher, if I got a well-written paper that was based on that outline, I would be forced to give it an "A" then throw it in the trash along with the numerous newspaper articles that say almost precisely the same thing. I mean this in the most polite way possible, but is that education? If the purpose of education were to teach obedience, wouldn't it be more efficient to make people perfect their crayon skills?

    I'm hoping mog will have the courage to talk to the teacher before starting work on the paper and ask permission to deviate slightly from the intent. He can say he has found a way to potentially interview the very people who were (and are) involved in developing the Internet. He'll be able to do some interesting research that really stimulates thought.

    Of course, one problem is that it may be difficult to put this kind of material at a level that non-geeks can understand.

    Whatever happens, though, mog, be sure you keep us updated on this. In light of the recent series of articles posted by John Katz regarding persecution of Internet-literate kids in high schools, I think your experience is very pertinent to the current /. discussion. And moderators, moderate up anything posted by mog so we can see it.

  81. Re:Starting? Now? by umoto · · Score: 1

    Wow, that's really slow. Rob has been working on fine tuning the moderation, and it's looking good, but maybe it's time to look at the timeliness of posted articles, eh?!

  82. dangers from my experience by the_tsi · · Score: 1

    3 years working for ISPs, and this is what I've learned are important dangers:

    1. Never cut the long ends off zip ties used for cable bundles until AFTER you hang the cables. Otherwise your arms will not forgive you.

    2. Never connect a pair from a T1 with your body. Depending on distance, there can be about 40-50 volts on there.

    3. Type 66 punchdown tools. 'nuff said.

    -Chris

  83. hmm new topic???? Chronological Displacement? by GW+Hayduke · · Score: 1

    Could one of the "Hazards of the Internet" be that we are getting so used to having information sent instantly from one location to another, processed, then returned with an applicable response, that we are starting to "speed" up our own concept of time prematurely? Hmmm sounds like a preamble to a philosophical discussion from Fred W. Hagen.
    I guess this is a perfect example of how the Internet is NOT just a global complex entity relying on technology solely, but rather a transport mechanism for human thought. It also shows that posts to Ask /. can be lost just as easily as a Post-It with that all-too-important phone # (or email addy)..
    Congo Rats on the graduation, and enjoy your summer.. now where's my coffee?

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  84. Re:The Internet is nothing new by Siege · · Score: 1

    In essence, you don't really have a paper, because there is no "dark side of the Internet". It is people that can have dark sides, and focussing on the Internet only serves to bury heads deeper in the sand.

    In which case, having their opinions freely and openly available to be seen for what they are is the focus of debate. If you see someone with a bald head and semi-combatant dress hanging around on a street corner, what will you think? Now go read a website filled with slick, professional graphics; clear, concise, accurate commentary; and highly usable links. Who made the website? What do they look like? What if the skinhead on the street made it?

    And what opinions were expressed in that website, anyway?

    Can you fear the shameless self-expression made possible by speaking to an audience of strangers who seem like they aren't likely to meet you? Depending on subject, I certainly can. Even with a slick presentation, even with the coolness of it being on the internet (not so cool anymore), there are some things I just don't want some random stranger telling me. I properly admit to that.

  85. "Report Helper" Sites by piperjdogg · · Score: 1

    You might consult those reports-for-sale sites. They have certainly promoted plagiarism among students. Also, check out the colleges that sell diplomas online. Another issue that applies greatly now is the proliferation of such texts as the anarchist's cookbook online.

    Each of these issues would certainly help a teacher understand the dangers involved with immoral and illegal actions resulting from the internet.

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  86. Interpretation will get you a bad grade by Doug+Dante · · Score: 1

    "My interpretation is that of the dangers encountered upon the development of the internet."

    Sorry, but if I were your teacher, I'd claim that you focused on a narrow slice of the whole topic, and I probably wouldn't understand what you were talking about.

    Here is a brief outline describing the kind of topics that I would expect your teacher to anticipate. Each topic tries to tie in with what your teacher has heard in relation to it. It may be a book, a movie, a historical event, or a potential threat.

    1) Privacy
    A) Individual from government
    ("Enemy of the State")
    (Encryption export/control)
    B) Individual from business
    ("Business @ the speed of thought")
    C) Individual from other individuals
    1. online stalking
    ("The Net")
    (The Diagnosis Murder with an online killer)
    2. ease of information retrieval
    (Geneology info from the Mormons online)
    D) Encrypted Communications
    1. Government
    (WW 2 and Enigma)
    (NSA)
    2. Business
    (EU claims USAUK steals trade secrets)
    3. Individuals
    (terrorism and organized crime)
    E) Anonymity
    (Anonymous re-mailers)

    2) Living your life online
    A) Online dating
    (some movie here)
    ("You've got mail")
    B) Telecommuting
    ("The Net")

    2) Objectionable Material
    A) Racist speech
    (Hate sites)
    B) Dangerous information
    1. Bomb making
    (Littleton)
    2. Chemical, biological, or nuclear weapon
    plans
    (Aum Shinrikyo and the Tokyo sarin gas
    attack)
    C) Protecting children
    1. Parental monitoring
    2. Filtering software in the home
    (That teen who offers information on
    cracking filtering software)
    D) Schools
    (Recent Supreme court decisions defending
    the right's of High School students to
    have web pages insulting teachers/staff)

    3) National Issues
    A) Filtering software in libaries
    (Supreme court cases)
    B) Legislating Content/Censorship
    (Communications Decency Act)
    (Old "Time" cover story with kid looking
    at computer)
    C) Hacking
    (Government web sites hacked)
    (Credit card numbers stolen)
    (Kevin Mitnick)
    (The Cuckoo's Egg)
    D) Intellectual Property
    (Warez)
    (MP3, Diamond Rio, and RIAA)

    5) International Issues
    A) Use of filters
    1. China (a lot)
    2. Australia (some)
    3. US (none)
    B) Information Warfare
    ( CIA and Kosovo )
    ( Web site attacks in Kashmir )

    4) Business
    A) Use of internet at work
    1. Monitoring
    2. Filtering
    3. Liability
    4. When you work at home.
    (Recent Harvard case)
    B) E-commerce
    ( Disintermediation and the "death"
    of retail)
    ( Getting perscription drugs online )

    These are the types of main stream American topics in which your teacher is probably interested. Of course, I'm assuming that you're enrolled in an American High School.

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    1. Re:Interpretation will get you a bad grade by "LEVIATHAN" · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, how this reminds me so of my current situation...

      Basically, my paper was on the Computer Revolution and the Y2k Bug. I paid (and still am) dearly for picking such a broad topic. What Doug said, and gave a few examples of (prob. should go on this too) is perfect.

      Remember: DO NOT DO BROAD TOPICS!!!

      Thnak you. --"LEVIATHAN"

  87. Re:Starting? Now? by mog · · Score: 3

    Actually I already graduated. I mailed my Ask Slashdot about 2.5 or 3 months ago, and it just got posted.

  88. Starting? Now? by Crutcher · · Score: 2

    Hmm, its June 3, your a senior in highschool, and you are starting your large research project now? Let me guess,
    A) You screwed around during the school year and were told "do this huge project and you'll pass".

    or

    B) You aready failed, and are in summer school, so you can do the same.

    Now, I'm not meaning to be negative, (in high school I ended up in categorey A a few times, in college, categorey B) but what you need to do is "impress" the person grading your paper.
    So, make their head spin. Do some research on the "neo-tribal"* theorys, and write it up good and scary, guaranted "A+".

    * "neo-tribal theory"
    The idea that with the proliferation of massive information (and the joint proliferation of filtering software and "portal" sites) viewers see only what they wish to see, and social sub-groups become more and more insular.
    ex. White power nuts go only to white power web pages, now for ALL their news, so they have no challenge to their perspective.

    Just a Thougt.

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    1. Re:Starting? Now? by Kukester · · Score: 1
      ex. White power nuts go only to white power web pages, now for ALL their news, so they have no challenge to their perspective.

      Ex: when I only visited slashdot

    2. Re:Starting? Now? by James+Lanfear · · Score: 1

      > A) You screwed around during the school year and were told "do this huge project and you'll pass".

      Heh, that how I graduated last Friday. I was behind, so the last day I dumped 70 pages of rough drafts and half-finished papers on the teachers desk. AFAIK they haven't read far enough to see that 20 pages of it is source I wrote while supposedly doing English. But I *did* graduate.

      If this is in fact a late paper--though some schools have a few weeks to go yet--my only suggestion would to pad it, a lot. It's nice to have be inventive about the contents, and it great to reinterpret the assignment like that. But you can gain a *lot* from using long sentences and explaining everything twice. And analagies, metaphore and my favorite, discussion of *related* issues; the last is esp. good if you're writing for a non-tech audience, so you can justify the padding as important explanations.

  89. Open/Closed Source Debate is not new by SEWilco · · Score: 1
    The Open/Closed Source debate was as apparent in the early days of the Internet. The History of GNU says a lot of software was free in early 1970's, but most was proprietary by the early 1980's. That inspired GNU.

    I tend to agree, although there were sources of sources then. One of those was NASA's COSMIC, but the main web site is shut down -- any mirrors around?

  90. Re:Do homework on your own. by SEWilco · · Score: 1

    Well, let's hope he finds the real information, such as Spurgeon's Ethernet Web Site [and a historical Ethernet drawing] rather than amateur histories and wrong information such as "collision level of 10% is bad".

  91. Good Start - But Keep Working by rshah · · Score: 1

    First, I am glad someone else shares an interest in the development of the Internet in terms of its architecture. Second, I would suggest you do a little soul searching and preliminary research to decide what you want to focus on. Your initial topic is very broad (so broad not even my dissertation will cover it). I would suggest you think about some of the following issues:
    Decide do you want to look at the past development of the Internet or the future of the Internet?
    How technical do you want to get?
    Do you want to focus on the development/implementation/enforcement of technical standards?
    Do you want to focus on the government, academia, or the private sectors role?
    Do you want to look at social issues - privacy, pornography, security?
    Do want to emphasize economic or legal issues?

    But if you just want a good topic with lots of information out there, how about software patents

  92. Great Book by RabidMonkey · · Score: 1

    There is a good book on the 'origins' of the Internet called 'Where Wizards Stay up Late' covering the development of the initial hardware as well as the progression upto today. Very good book for anyone to read, but this book has a lot of good information pertaining to what I perceive as your research goal. It also contains a list of references at the back which might be of assistance. Good Luck! Todd

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  93. Re:Neo Anarchy by remande · · Score: 2
    As one who works in E-Commerce, I disagree. First, E-commerce isn't a new way for people to make money (my paychecks are little different from anybody else's, for accounting purposes). E-commerce is a new way for people to spend money. And E-commerce tends to have better accounting than non-E-commerce. If I wanted to hide my "money trail" from the government, I would exclusively deal with cash (the lowest tech commerce there is). The last thing I would do would be to buy stuff from a Web site; that requires my name, my credit card data, and a shipping address.

    If you want to hide personal income from the government (disclaimer: this is illegal in the US, and I don't recommend that anybody do this), you want to keep income-generating activity out of databases at all costs, preferably out of paper books as well. E-Commerce makes it easier for the government to track your economic activity.

    Besides, even if governments can't track the personal income of its citizens, the government will not collapse. One can certainly run a government without income taxes. My home state of New Hampshire gets along well without one (we tax entertainment and property, and the state owns a monopoly on liquor sales)

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  94. Internet Hype by pocari · · Score: 1

    Another danger is that Internet hype is sucking money and attention away from other problems we could be solving.

    The San Jose Mercury News ran an article last month profiling the shift in venture capital away from medicine and health care and into Internet companies. An investment in a biotech company might take years to pay off, but the Internet is a get rich quick scheme. Drugs and devices to save lives and ease suffering are being put on hold so we can auction Beanie Babies at faster speeds.

    Here in Silicon Valley, people are quitting other jobs to do Internet-related things. Talent as well as money is being drawn away from other real problems. People are chasing the chance at being another Yahoo! instead of solving real problems. It is widely regarded as a virtue for an Internet company to have no idea how it will ever provide a product or service that someone might find useful enough to pay money for.

    And when the Internet stocks crash, it will mainly be young people who are hurt since they disproportionately own these stocks and they represent a greater portion of their portfolio.

  95. Mass Media by squireson · · Score: 1

    Well , about the mass media . Is it really a surprise that the Mass Media is more interested in talking about the dangers of the interntet ( in general ) if you look at it from this perspective :
    The internet is competing with Mass Media for it's role as an information source .
    I would think that it would be more common for them to talk about the dangers of the internet than for them to discuss the dangers of the Mass Media for obvious reasons . Also , The internet , by it's nature , has no sole authority to defend it .

  96. Re:Legal incidents in Europe. by Paul+Johnson · · Score: 1
    This is very true. In the UK the Vice Squad (police department in charge of gambling and commercial sex) tried to tell the UK Internet industry to ban alt.sex.* and alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.* or face prosecution under our obscenity laws. An Inspector French sent out a letter to all ISPs listing the group names. This became ironically known as the "French Letter". A search on DejaNews should pick it up, or you can ask Demon, a UK ISP, directly.

    ISTR that in Germany a couple of Compuserve execs were actually convicted of distributing child porn because they were running a news server.

    Also, on Demon's web site you can find out about the libel suit brought by one Dr. Lawrence Godfrey. Someone posted a newsgroup posting libelling LG. Demon refused to delete it when asked, and LG is now sueing Demon for propogating the libel. The law appears to be against Demon, but the problem is that it effectively requires ISPs to remove articles from their News spools on demand.

    Good luck with the paper.

    Paul.

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    You are lost in a twisty maze of little standards, all different.
  97. Do homework on your own. by midh · · Score: 1

    There has been so much on this stuff in the news lately. Do a search on News.com and form your own opinion. After all, your paper should be what you think, not what slashdotters think. I remember all the hours I sweated in the library and on the web to write a paper on free speech and the internet.

    1. Re:Do homework on your own. by midh · · Score: 1

      Really? What you find on Slashdot is new and opinions. Which is fine by me. But if I remember right, the reason why they ask us to do research is not to present opinions but to form them. I don't believe that message boards are any way to do your homework. On /. you are going to get a huge dose of pro open source, pro Linux voices. What about the other side?

    2. Re:Do homework on your own. by midh · · Score: 1

      I get my news from a lot of places. News.com, Zdnet and mnay other site. /. happens to be just one of them. I would never base a report of just the opinions of /. audience. It is too biased.

  98. Find Hitler's 1939 speech... they'll buy it... by cynicthe · · Score: 3

    A Harvard Law student presented it under his own name in 1968. Resounding applause from faculty after the speech. Then a big sucking sound when he told them who the original author was.

    See how that goes.

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    1. Re:Find Hitler's 1939 speech... they'll buy it... by Oldspice · · Score: 1
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  99. Whoops by James+Lanfear · · Score: 1

    Whoops, forgot the spell check...and that was supposed to be "'related'", not "*related*".

  100. This is very interesting by Larry+L · · Score: 1

    I've always been a fan of TJ and I think he's right here. But I also think that we've mislabeled software as "Intellectual Property."
    Software should simply be property whereas TJ sounds like he's talking about "ideas" or what we now have as patented ideas such at certain cyphers. (RSA, ect) With patented ideas, we're not *directly* diminishing the holder's value by using it - we're diminishing his ability to make money on it. If you view it solely in economic terms, then yes, you are taking away profits from him.

    By this logic and TJ's logic, all patented ideas should be free for noncommercial use. I think the open source community and thus the world would benefit greatly if the laws were changed in favor of this.

    Patents have a life span of 20 years, no? I wouldn't mind trading an unlimited life span for the ability to use the idea for noncommercial use.
    (But in case ms and other companies try to release stuff for "free" with patents, I suggest we kill the loophole by making it nonprofit orgs and individuals only)



    Write your senator guys!! :)

  101. Neo tribal theory, eh? by Larry+L · · Score: 1

    Everyday I goto Slashdot, freshmeat, arstechnica.

    hmm.... maybe that's why I'm so screwed up :)

  102. Just wondering by Larry+L · · Score: 1

    Cant we help them get around their government filters through tunneling?
    Just a thought

  103. Try this for a hazard: by Larry+L · · Score: 1

    Have you ever coded for 19 hours straight (no drugs)? Have you felt the decay your body goes through after one of these?? :)

    this is a big hazard for many hard core code hackers :)

  104. Dear Slashdot, by Garpenlov · · Score: 1

    Please do my homework for me.

    Signed,
    Some lazy kid

    [seriously, though...]

    I can't think of anything serious. I mean, enough's been said, here and other places, about everyone who has to do a paper and just gets all their facts off the internet -- or, gets pre-written papers off a certain site. Hell, even I did it when I was in high school, and that was a few years back. (Well, not exclusively. But instead of having to BUY books to write reports on, I downloaded them from Project Gutenberg.)

    There has been a LOT said about the topics he mentioned (intellectual property, standardization of protocols on the internet, etc) both on Slashdot already, and everywhere else. Asking for it to be all wrapped in a nice little package in one discussion seems to be getting a bit lazy. [As if the whole mode of research isn't lazy enough. Although secretly I'm jealous of the people I know who get paid to consult on 'virtual learning.']

    Well, hey, this comment is a good example of a hazard of the internet (although not in the context you are referring to). Anonymity breeds impoliteness (read: flaming). Which is not to say this is a flame, it's merely somewhat critical. But criticisms flow ever so easier when one can hide behind a silly name...

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  105. Integration of the Internet and Everyday Life by Silex · · Score: 1

    At IBM we occasionaly get a magazine called 'Think Leadership'. In the issue Volume 3, Number 1 on page 22-26 there is a very interesting article about the integration of trillions of devices (aside from computers), all connected to a global network of astronomical size (and possibilities).

    In the article, they give a scenario of what IBM envisions within the next decade:

    ---------------------[excerpt from IBM Think Mag.

    11:30:05 The driver on his way to the airport, inserts a smart card into his car's dashboard. Funds are eletronically downloaded from his bank account [through the Internet] onto the smart card. At the same time, the smart card notifies the airline that the driver is en route.

    11:30:10 The car has been engineered so that its electronic network detects early warning signs of malfunction. If a problem is detected, data is communicated via a wireless network to the manufacturer. In some cases, the problem can be "remotley" fixed. Subsequently, the manufacturer can forward data regarding the problem and its fix to tis development lab for analysis as well as for inclusion in its data warehouse.

    meanwhile ...

    11:30:10 At a nearby service station, sensores inside a soda machine detect a rise in outside air temprature. The machine performs a self-inventory and anticipating increased demand, notifes the distributor to request restocking.

    11:30:15 A warehouse has caught fire! The networked building siglans the fire department. Floor plans and information regarding the materials in storage from the building's network center to the dispatched fire tricks. Simutaneously, the logistics operation center and insurance carriers that serve the building and companies that store goods there are apprised via the network.

    11:30:35 A citrus grower is notified of the fire at the warehouse where its products are locally stored.

    11:30:35 The grower's logistics operation headquarters arranged fro an alternative sotrage location and rerouted transporation of goods [which were going to the warehouse on a ship]. The chip-embedded packets used by the grower for tracking purposes are electoeronically updated from the logistics operation headquarters to include the new desitation and transport arangements.

    Meanwhile [back to the guy driving in the car]...

    11:30:35 The sensor device in a ticketed passenger's smart card automatically alerts an airline that the passanger is too far away to make the flight's scheduled departure time. Alternative travel plans are made and communicated to the passenger via the smartcard.

    11:31:10 Held up in trafic due to the warehouse fire, the driver is advised via the car's dashboard scren that a new itinerary and plane ticket will be downloaded onto his smartcard.

    ---------------------[ END EXCERPT

    Okay, very cool. That's like a utopian society. Except they forgot one thing ... security. Compare the above scenario to what the Internet is used for today. About the only thing resembling that is Electronic Commerce which is suffering some seriou problems due to security breaches. If something like the above DOES happen, it will open thousands of doors for crackers. Image the number of practical jokes you coupld play on the guy driving the car, in the above scenario :P

    Just thought this might help you.

  106. If you want to really impress your teacher... by DoktorMel · · Score: 3

    Go to your primary sources. I was looking through my Penguin Portable Thomas Jefferson the other day and found this which you might find useful. If you do use it and want the correct citation, email me. DoktorMel Rogue English-teacher geek

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  107. Neo Anarchy by PrometheuSx11 · · Score: 1

    One day, perhaps E commerce will become so prevelent that governments will be unable to track the personal income of its citizens, and then taxes will become obsolete and the existing order will starve to death. Or maybe I'm a paranoid delusional who doesn't really 'get it'

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  108. Not doing his own research? by Silverlock · · Score: 2

    I was given the impression in school that the interview was an acceptable means by which to acquire information. If you are writing a paper on the development of the Internet, why would you not consult people who actually do some of the work? /. would seem to be an incredible resource in that regard.

    I'm sure that the people that are complaining here are the same people that complain in some way about every topic. I know I shouldn't respond to trolls and flamers, but I just couldn't resist in this case.

    I hope you do well with your paper.

  109. Don't forget DA's by coyote-san · · Score: 2

    Don't forget DA's. The problem is not quite as bad is it used to be, but for a long time there was a persistent fear that some local DA seeking cheap press coverage would discover computer pornography *gasp*. Worse, said pornography could be illegal locally (a surprising number of states still ban pictures showing explicit penetration), so the DA's "shock" had real teeth to it. The fact that the images, pre web-browser, looked like MKH!K#Hlkh`l1lKCHQE$@ unless you knew multiple magic incantations was irrelevant.

    Today there isn't the same problem with rural American DA's, but now sites may have problems from other countries complaining about the content.

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  110. Re:6.805 Ethics and Law on the Elec. Frontier by wendy · · Score: 1

    In fact, the class was 6.805. Here's the current homepage, while last year's material is online here. (A division of labor between MIT and the Law School's Berkman Center.)

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  111. good topic by gonzocanuck · · Score: 1
    I think the subject of domain names is a good topic too. It would go to show the frivolity involved in corporate America. For example, ajax.org, who was sued by Proctor and Gamble, because they saw it as an infringement on their product. Never mind that Ajax and Ajax the Lesser were figures from The Illiad! (btw, PG also owns diarrhea.com, talk about gross!)


    Yeah...you could probably touch on a number of topics, but basically you could write an entire book on any of them!

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  112. Broad topics will get you a bad grade :) by fable2112 · · Score: 2


    Memories of an old professor of mine who said that my writing was "like a string of Christmas lights" -- too many little bright spots, any ONE of which could have been a paper topic, and not developed enough. I finally "broke the code" on the last paper I wrote for him, and got an A- despite turning it in late. :)

    "Hazards of the Net" is a very broad topic. At that point, I wouldn't even be sure what you meant -- physical hazards? net-addiction? FBI arrests of teenage hackers? security system breaches? something else entirely?

    Focus on something particular.

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  113. The Internet is nothing new by droleary · · Score: 1

    From that perspective, in any case. It is merely another tool of communication, which can be used in ways both dangerous and beneficial. It brings together people of shared interest, whether that interest be spiritual community or child pornography. It likewise brings together people of differing interests.

    In essence, you don't really have a paper, because there is no "dark side of the Internet". It is people that can have dark sides, and focussing on the Internet only serves to bury heads deeper in the sand.

  114. Criminy! by [Tex] · · Score: 1

    [Thanks Mr. Malda for the preview button. This comment went from a violent flame to something else. :)] I found no actual sources in this article. Was this published in the opinion column? Furthermore, the author seems quite unaware as to the location of this *Dark Net*. If he can't seem to find it, how does he know it exists? I am certainly glad tho, that he finally explained why i cannot seem to download my favorite MP3's...it's the man...keepin me down... ;) Darn those spinless ISP's!!! :) jk. btw, i found the dark net! [tex]

  115. Define Hazard... by dpdx · · Score: 1

    Would that be ANY negative consequence of the development of the 'Net?

    If so, I can think of one right off the top of my head (and I'm surprised it hasn't come up): the IP number shortage. This has a history (with items such as Mercedes-Benz pigging up a whole Class A that it won't give back because "eventually every car will have its own IP address.") You could tie in the death of Jon Postel (bless his soul), and its aftermath. The explosion of new InterNIC registrations, the new assigned Registrars, how the new 2 and 3LDs affect it (won't they need addresses, too?)...

    Damn, maybe I'll go write my own paper...

    Good Luck!

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  116. A place to gor for some intesting history. by cfb · · Score: 1

    I am certaintly not going to tell you how to write your paper, or even debate with you if you should be asking for help, but.... if you want to get some intresting first hand sources about "building the internet" try reading the RFCs. Just search for RFC on any major search enginer and it will point you in the correct direction. You could also try reading Where Wizards Stay up Late by Katie Hafner. It is a brief history of how and why the internet came to be. Just my thoughts.

  117. Slightly OT Philly Inquirer by Mr.+Morden · · Score: 2

    I live in the Philadelphia area and there's a weekly Tech section in the Inquirer(Philly Newspaper)

    Yesterday they had an article about the 'Dark Net'. That was the actual term used by the Author. He went on for a while about how software companies have chased all the evil warez people off the web and then they've all moved to the Dark Net where they can trade their illegal software with impunity. After reading the article a couple times trying to figure out what he was talking about I noticed a single reference to FTP which is apparently the Dark Net.

    The author seems to believe that anything done on FTP couldn't possibly be legal because the web is so much easier.

    There were also some references to 'other software' and non-standard (non-web) protocols that make it simpler for pirates to trade stolen software at higher speed. All I can think of is Hotlne, but there's no reference to any real information. The entire article seems to be based on some vague notion of pirates being everywhere and being the only people who use high speed connections.
    for more info you can read the whole article on the Inquirer's website

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  118. Hmm.. I think Society needs someone to blame again by Phorbidden · · Score: 1

    Well all I really have to say is that Society wants someone to blame AGAIN! Really it is not the internet that is harming this world, it is the people who have grown up with the feelings of self mutilation because of lack of caring (or whatever) from their peirs and parents, people just want acceptance in general. And I also think that the internet will make this place A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE!!! So many people think that you need COLLEGE and MONEY to make it in this world, when YOU DO NOT. Just do what makes you happy (for example coding in LINUX and the such, whatever makes you happy) and you will make it in this world. Who cares if you work for Microsoft and make millions writing their code, write your own stuff and become a legend, people will see you soon enough and the money will come. Alright I am at work so my thoughts are very scattered!!! = P But that is what was on my mind when I read your passage. Alright C-YA later fellas don't bash my passage too harshly!

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  119. Re:Interesting read. by TummyX · · Score: 1

    And because you didn't spread FUD about the big evil Microsoft - I actually enjoyed reading it. It pretty much outlined the need for standards, and gave examples (using IBM and MS) or companies that don't often use standards.
    Tho i believe that Microsoft should be allowed to extend technologies - rather than be tied up by any limitations in existing ones (IE for example has very advanced technologies - that go beyond Netscape) - I think that the changes should be opened up (MS have submitted their DOM (Document Object Model for IE) for standardisation tho).
    Microsoft are getting better at adopting standards, realising it's all for the better....insisting on TCP/IP, DNS etc....rather than NetBeui and WINS.

    It's nice to read something that doesn't blindly poke pins into Microsoft as a matter of principle.