ISPs mail server isn't stupid, ours does that as well... that's because that's what the message looks like! The mail server is just bouncing back the message! E-mail is not for file transfer.
Ahh I remember the day when smart people used computers.. now everyone and their mother can use one and we have issues like this.
As I tell our customers who complain about this. If you're trying to e-mail a 50MB attachment YOU HAVE ISSUES! E-Mail is for text. FTP is for files. Say it with me people. E-Mail is not a medium for sending large files! Things break... like your POP3 client. It's just not good, if you routinely send things that big you should invest in a proper FTP server/service from someone.
We block port 25, what I've noticed though, is it seems that alot of the newer zombies are sending mail out through port 25 on our mail servers! So they just connect to the mail servers and happily start sending mail out!
So how DO you detect zombies on your network? I've wondered about this for a long time and would love to know what ports these zombies listen on so I can scan for them. Any one have any ideas?
Cell phone companies are keeping a log of TXT messages? Really... I find that hard to believe.. but maybe they are. I mean as an ISP we don't keep copies of every single e-mail. yeah we have who it was sent to and where it came from but we dont store the content!
Can't say I've ever had this issue. I use klipper. Multiple clipboard entries. Highlight doesn't copy until I right click and copy or hit the key. And I can do multiple clipboards. What's the issue.
The server room is massively backed up. The problem is when you deploy these to customers. Yes UPSes are cheap.. I own 2 in my house personally. However, not all customers are willing to purchase this equipment, and if they don't.. oops. Plus the point still stands with a power flicker D-Link is rock solid where as LinkSys throws a hissy fit.
I should also add that I once called linksys to find out if there was any way to force the ethernet port on their broadband routers for 10/Half (Alvarion Wireless Radios like to be forced for some reason).. and their tech was like.. wa huh? Like dude you wanna do what?
DUP! This comment seems to somehow keep appearing in story comments the last few days over and over. I think someone's computer is stuck posting the same page over and over.
Perhaps Cisco will change this... But we've had nothing but trouble with them at work. Those 8 port switches? Forget using them on any network that requires uptime. If you get a little power flicker they are gone, they hold onto the last piece of traffic they had (usually an arp) and just keep repeating it until the network floods and goes down. I've experienced this with no less then 6 DIFFERENT linksys 8-port switches (the 4 ports are fine and do not do this).
The Broadband routers do the same thing occassionally, they will packet storm on the network and cause traffic problems.
So far all i've seen says YUCK junk. Our company used to purchase linksys exclusively to use internally (when we didn't need something as powerful as a 24 port DELL switch) and also on our broadband network when customer's needed equipment. We've since switch to D-Link and have had not an issue.
As far as Vonage goes.. if you DO NOT I repeat DO NOT have POTS service you can backfeed the vonage analog signal into your home telephone network and get service to phones in any room.
It seems to be when I signed my contract for my internet, or by reading the TOS.. I'm seeing that *I am responsible for all that is done on my account*.. hrmm might want to turn WEP back on:)
Very true.. that would be descrimination based on colour. But where do you draw the line? Perhaps I want to use the female restroom at work. I can't? I'm being denied! Sexual descrimination!
Perhaps I want to counsel at an all girl's camp (I'm a guy). what I can't? Sexual descrimination!
My point is.. some things NEED to be descriminated against. Some don't.. and are wrong to descriminate against.
Let me make sure I have this straight... who's got a gun to the mailserver administrator's head saying "You must use spamcop to filter your mail"? No one.. ok that's what I thought. So how exactly does OIRB even have a case here? Spamcop is running a service, which somtimes blocks OIRB, they are forcing everyone and their mother who runs a mail server to use them (spamcop)... so why did this even go through? It's not spamcop's fault.. it's the mailserver admin's fault the mail is being blocked. And, unless I'm wrong, mailservers are privately owned pieces of machinery and I have every right to say "Sorry, you can't come trampling on my equipment right now", to someone. So while OIRB might not like it, my mail server is private property.
Isn't this like hireing Diebold to secure your house, and then having someone (say Jehovah's Witnesses) complain and file a suit against Diebold because they can no longer come up to your house and just enter?
I know I know.. I'm stretching the example a bit... but JW can 'technically' come up to my house knock and I can talk to them if I wish. I can also turn them away.. it's MY house.. MY property. I install a third party system which does something or other to keep them away... how's this diebold's problem? or mine for that matter?
Well you would like a company as large as Microsoft would have a team of people reading through code and looking for exploits, before the software goes out.
A work stations does not need to be listening to any ports. It's a workstation.. nothing should be connecting back to it that isn't in state established already.
I tried that update cd (figured if nothing else it would be useful to take to friends houses who have dialup and need patches). The cd took no less then three months to get to my house! The post mark was like 4 days before I received it so it was in proccessing for 3 months. In that time several news security patches had come out.... If they can't get the CD out in a few days, it's worthless. For instance, sasser? That CD would have been useless... as I still wouldn't have it.
Uhh that hear hear was in responce to the AC who posted:
This statement is 100% wrong.
First, the fact that the Europeans were able to deploy GSM (which is a TDMA technology) instead of AMPS (which is an FDMA technology) shows that there is room for more than one mobile phone technology in the world.
Second, every mobile phone network, including GSM networks, will be upgrading to CDMA over the next several years. So, when there is one mobile phone technology, it will be CDMA.
Third, the US government is not behind CDMA. In fact, unlike almost all other countries in the world, the US government does not mandate that a specific mobile phone technology be deployed. That is why the US has operators using AMPS, TDMA (including IDEN and GSM) and CDMA technologies.
GSM may be superiour to CDMA in many ways but give me a non-motorola Verizon CDMA phone any day over GSM. CDMA is so nice.. I can hear the other side of the conversation... background noise, them talking.. WHILE I'm talking.. try that on GSM! Plus, CDMA runs (or can) at 800mhz.. which goes through stuff alot better then 1.9Ghz.. yup.. CDMA all the way baby.
Well trying to use wireless in an area where the campus is not is definately going to result in it being bad:) Probably got some stupid kids open access points LOL
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ISPs mail server isn't stupid, ours does that as well... that's because that's what the message looks like! The mail server is just bouncing back the message! E-mail is not for file transfer.
Ahh I remember the day when smart people used computers.. now everyone and their mother can use one and we have issues like this.
As I tell our customers who complain about this. If you're trying to e-mail a 50MB attachment YOU HAVE ISSUES! E-Mail is for text. FTP is for files. Say it with me people. E-Mail is not a medium for sending large files! Things break... like your POP3 client. It's just not good, if you routinely send things that big you should invest in a proper FTP server/service from someone.
Backups of the mailstore... but not backups of mail that comes through the system.
IE.. customer A sends mail to person B on another system.
We have record that customer A sent *AN* e-mail to person B but we don't knwo what the e-mail said.
We block port 25, what I've noticed though, is it seems that alot of the newer zombies are sending mail out through port 25 on our mail servers! So they just connect to the mail servers and happily start sending mail out!
So how DO you detect zombies on your network? I've wondered about this for a long time and would love to know what ports these zombies listen on so I can scan for them. Any one have any ideas?
Cell phone companies are keeping a log of TXT messages? Really... I find that hard to believe.. but maybe they are. I mean as an ISP we don't keep copies of every single e-mail. yeah we have who it was sent to and where it came from but we dont store the content!
Can't say I've ever had this issue. I use klipper. Multiple clipboard entries. Highlight doesn't copy until I right click and copy or hit the key. And I can do multiple clipboards. What's the issue.
The server room is massively backed up. The problem is when you deploy these to customers. Yes UPSes are cheap.. I own 2 in my house personally. However, not all customers are willing to purchase this equipment, and if they don't.. oops. Plus the point still stands with a power flicker D-Link is rock solid where as LinkSys throws a hissy fit.
I should also add that I once called linksys to find out if there was any way to force the ethernet port on their broadband routers for 10/Half (Alvarion Wireless Radios like to be forced for some reason).. and their tech was like.. wa huh? Like dude you wanna do what?
DUP! This comment seems to somehow keep appearing in story comments the last few days over and over. I think someone's computer is stuck posting the same page over and over.
Perhaps Cisco will change this... But we've had nothing but trouble with them at work. Those 8 port switches? Forget using them on any network that requires uptime. If you get a little power flicker they are gone, they hold onto the last piece of traffic they had (usually an arp) and just keep repeating it until the network floods and goes down. I've experienced this with no less then 6 DIFFERENT linksys 8-port switches (the 4 ports are fine and do not do this).
The Broadband routers do the same thing occassionally, they will packet storm on the network and cause traffic problems.
So far all i've seen says YUCK junk. Our company used to purchase linksys exclusively to use internally (when we didn't need something as powerful as a 24 port DELL switch) and also on our broadband network when customer's needed equipment. We've since switch to D-Link and have had not an issue.
I carry my cell with me everywhere.
As far as Vonage goes.. if you DO NOT I repeat DO NOT have POTS service you can backfeed the vonage analog signal into your home telephone network and get service to phones in any room.
It seems to be when I signed my contract for my internet, or by reading the TOS .. I'm seeing that *I am responsible for all that is done on my account*.. hrmm might want to turn WEP back on :)
Very true.. that would be descrimination based on colour. But where do you draw the line? Perhaps I want to use the female restroom at work. I can't? I'm being denied! Sexual descrimination!
Perhaps I want to counsel at an all girl's camp (I'm a guy). what I can't? Sexual descrimination!
My point is.. some things NEED to be descriminated against. Some don't.. and are wrong to descriminate against.
Let me make sure I have this straight... who's got a gun to the mailserver administrator's head saying "You must use spamcop to filter your mail"? No one.. ok that's what I thought. So how exactly does OIRB even have a case here? Spamcop is running a service, which somtimes blocks OIRB, they are forcing everyone and their mother who runs a mail server to use them (spamcop)... so why did this even go through? It's not spamcop's fault.. it's the mailserver admin's fault the mail is being blocked. And, unless I'm wrong, mailservers are privately owned pieces of machinery and I have every right to say "Sorry, you can't come trampling on my equipment right now", to someone. So while OIRB might not like it, my mail server is private property.
Isn't this like hireing Diebold to secure your house, and then having someone (say Jehovah's Witnesses) complain and file a suit against Diebold because they can no longer come up to your house and just enter?
I know I know.. I'm stretching the example a bit... but JW can 'technically' come up to my house knock and I can talk to them if I wish. I can also turn them away.. it's MY house.. MY property. I install a third party system which does something or other to keep them away... how's this diebold's problem? or mine for that matter?
The calls most definately were not scripted. I had a friend who got on TSS once and also C4H once.
Well you would like a company as large as Microsoft would have a team of people reading through code and looking for exploits, before the software goes out.
A work stations does not need to be listening to any ports. It's a workstation.. nothing should be connecting back to it that isn't in state established already.
I tried that update cd (figured if nothing else it would be useful to take to friends houses who have dialup and need patches). The cd took no less then three months to get to my house! The post mark was like 4 days before I received it so it was in proccessing for 3 months. In that time several news security patches had come out....
If they can't get the CD out in a few days, it's worthless. For instance, sasser? That CD would have been useless... as I still wouldn't have it.
Perhaps you didn't read the article. It says the problem occurred when people brought infected computers (probably laptops) onto the network.
Hope they don't go the way of redhat, as some others have said.. otherwise we'll be in a very large bind.... ha ha ahem..
Uhh that hear hear was in responce to the AC who posted:
This statement is 100% wrong.
First, the fact that the Europeans were able to deploy GSM (which is a TDMA technology) instead of AMPS (which is an FDMA technology) shows that there is room for more than one mobile phone technology in the world.
Second, every mobile phone network, including GSM networks, will be upgrading to CDMA over the next several years. So, when there is one mobile phone technology, it will be CDMA.
Third, the US government is not behind CDMA. In fact, unlike almost all other countries in the world, the US government does not mandate that a specific mobile phone technology be deployed. That is why the US has operators using AMPS, TDMA (including IDEN and GSM) and CDMA technologies.
hear hear!
GSM may be superiour to CDMA in many ways but give me a non-motorola Verizon CDMA phone any day over GSM. CDMA is so nice .. I can hear the other side of the conversation... background noise, them talking.. WHILE I'm talking.. try that on GSM! Plus, CDMA runs (or can) at 800mhz.. which goes through stuff alot better then 1.9Ghz.. yup.. CDMA all the way baby.
Well trying to use wireless in an area where the campus is not is definately going to result in it being bad :) Probably got some stupid kids open access points LOL