Seems to me like these guys should pool together and try to merge the best of everyone's toolset.
Probably, but then again, that could be said for any of the millions of other projects out there.
How many editors do we really need? Window managers? Databases? Web browsers? MP3 encoders? CD players? Etc...
The big power of using a *nix on my home machine is setting everything up _just_ like I want it, from the shell to the WM to the browser. My Linux box looks completely different from anyone else's that I know, but it works perfectly for me.
The more I hear about AOL, the more it seems like their users actually *are* stupid. At the least they are painfully ignorant. They are paying for a service and then getting bombarded by ads. If it was a free service it would be one thing, but they are already paying. Then to have pop ups whenever they log on?!? That is utterly fucking ridiculous.
The more I hear about WalMart, the more it seems like their customers actually are stupid. At least, they are painfully ignorant. They are buying things in a store and then there are sale fliers right there in the aisles. If the merchandise were free, that would be one thing, but they are already buying things. Seeing racks of sale fliers whenever they walk into the store?!? That is utterly fucking ridiculous.
The fact is, like WalMart, AOL is the only option in some areas. Don't knock people just for their ISP.
(Yes, I'm a geek with a cable modem and my own mail server and all the other accoutrements. But that doesn't mean people who aren't are to be ridiculed, any more than customers of a given discount chain can all be considered morons.)
Has anyone had experiences like this? If so, what did you do?
Yeah, when I worked for DSL support at Verizon, I got people like you on the phone all the time. Almost as irritating as daytraders. I told every single one the same thing:
Don't base your income on a residential service, you cheap fuck.
There's a reason a cable modem costs so much less than a T1, and the same for DSL. There's no quality guarantee. You want guaranteed uptime, you gotta pay for it.
we must wonder if these people truly clicked no thanks...they are using AOL after all
Ha ha ha ! Because AOL users are stupid! Ha ha ha! They probably don't know what they clicked! Ha ha ha! What a bunch of dummies! They probably use Windows, too! Ha ha ha!
Some people might need more than just games and basic office suite components, just so that you're informed of anomalies such as this. Take for example the people who develop software..
...they can already set up their own dual boot system without any help from Dell.
Actually i believe that some of the cable companies here in Denmark are still using an Amiga for generating their "info channels"
The college I work for has their own cable TV network set up for the dorm residents. One of the channels that they get is an endlessly looping "info" channel with campus events and the like on it.
We _just_ retired the Amiga 1200 that's been doing this for years. And it was only because the poor thing had started to overheat and crash - the job it did was still more than adequate.
Just because this is part of the standard, sheepish slashdot 'informative' comment may say it, it isn't necessarily true.
Because I have found that the *BSDs tend to be a bit more stable and secure as servers than the Linux distros I've tried.
Linux, on the other hand, tends to have more support for different hardware (especially laptops and newer components), so it seems more suited to desktop use.
Admittedly, my opinion is a little biased (my home network, for example, has OpenBSD on the server and Linux on a desktop), but if anecdotal evidence can be trusted I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
As for whatever you were trying to say in that last sentence, I really couldn't parse it. Sorry.
The solution would show GNU/Linux on most servers, Windows XP and Office XP on the desktops, keeping proprietary data formats and lock-in interfaces up to the next upgrade cycle, which in fact would have been problem number one to solve.
Sounds a little odd to me - given my druthers, I'd probably go with a BSD on the servers and a custom Linux distro on the desktops.
Speaking of which, I assume it would be SuSe?
But hey, what do I know. Not German, for one thing.
You've clearly never been a user on a network with stupid-bitch admins who block everything.
The fact that your employer's organization obviously leaves a bit to be desired is not something that can be solved with software engineering.
On the other hand, the fact that the admin at my site is calm and reasonable about this sort of thing is cancelled out by these idiotic decisions to run everything on port 80.
Don't always assume everyone else is in a boat full of shit.
Basically, what's marked as 2.4.18 is really -rc3, and what's marked as -rc4 is what should have become 2.4.18. According to Marcelo on #kernelnewbies, most users won't be affected, but people on SPARC systems should definitely grab 2.4.18-rc4.
Wow. Now that's professionalism, eh? Good thing that this whole Open Source badge makes it all okay.
Would the fifteen second delay to rename a couple files before release really have killed anyone?
The US can't run around the world, butting in to conflicts and acting like some sort of benevolent super-sentient being, when during its time off from being a global-cop it likes to dump mercury in Asia. That's just hypocrisy like we've never seen before. USA! USA!
If I can't poison the children of a remote Chinese village, then the terrorists have already won.
Are you so sure that the title is warranted? Somehow I doubt that this effect is entirely unintended.
After all, speaking as the Ugly American that I am, it seems that the main point is to get the crap we don't want out of the country. Well, shit, mission accomplished there, huh?
What happens to it afterward is not our problem. And frankly, I live in an area once known for its steel foundries, and never known for environmental consciousness.
The main problem with that is that Sun makes money by selling sparcstations. They are a hardware company who makes they revenue from servers and service contracts. If they promote an OS for X86 they are competing against their cash-cow. Especially with the powerful chips that Intel now puts out.
And yet I can't read a single article in the snazzy new apple section without some nimrod yelling about how good it would be for Apple to release OS X for Intel hardware.
Sigh.
This moment of bitterness brought to you by a Macintosh user.
Well, finally OS X users are getting their wish: Adobe has finally made good on their promise to bring native OS X support to their graphical applications. C|Net is running a story on the upcoming version of Photoshop
It's been upcoming for months. I'll believe it when I can get my mitts on a copy from the Apple Store.
Of course, the way things are going, I'll be able to get that new G4 Amiga first.
I always wondered why the other machines of the Amiga's heyday don't have the same bull-terrier style fan base.
Why am I not hearing rumor after rumor, year after year, about the return of the Atari ST, for example?
I seem to remember some vicious flame wars between these two camps back in the eighties, when Commodore and Atari were not only still in existence but actually relevant to the computer industry. Why are the Amiga folks the only ones still carrying the torch for their long deceased platform?
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I think it was organsied by the childrens TV programme "Blue Peter" or something.
This episode of Blue Peter brought you by Trojan Condoms and the good people at Pfizer Antibiotics!
What a wretched name for a show.
--saint
Seems to me like these guys should pool together and try to merge the best of everyone's toolset.
Probably, but then again, that could be said for any of the millions of other projects out there.
How many editors do we really need? Window managers? Databases? Web browsers? MP3 encoders? CD players? Etc...
The big power of using a *nix on my home machine is setting everything up _just_ like I want it, from the shell to the WM to the browser. My Linux box looks completely different from anyone else's that I know, but it works perfectly for me.
--saint
Is is possible to switch from floppy images to small iso files?
Probably, but then you'd be blocking out all of the older machines that can't boot off of a CD, but can boot off of a floppy.
As someone who ran a 486 for all his serving needs on a home network, I'd rather not go down that route.
--saint
You just described just about everyone who produces open security software.
With one notable exception, of course; you're forgetting Theo's reputation for being so friendly and cuddly, much like a kitten.
--saint
the round trip time is over 22 hours. How's that for a ping latency?
Could be worse. They could be trying to get to it through @Home.
--saint
The more I hear about AOL, the more it seems like their users actually *are* stupid. At the least they are painfully ignorant.
They are paying for a service and then getting bombarded by ads. If it was a free service it would be one thing, but they are already paying.
Then to have pop ups whenever they log on?!? That is utterly fucking ridiculous.
The more I hear about WalMart, the more it seems like their customers actually are stupid. At least, they are painfully ignorant.
They are buying things in a store and then there are sale fliers right there in the aisles. If the merchandise were free, that would be one thing, but they are already buying things.
Seeing racks of sale fliers whenever they walk into the store?!? That is utterly fucking ridiculous.
The fact is, like WalMart, AOL is the only option in some areas. Don't knock people just for their ISP.
(Yes, I'm a geek with a cable modem and my own mail server and all the other accoutrements. But that doesn't mean people who aren't are to be ridiculed, any more than customers of a given discount chain can all be considered morons.)
--saint
Has anyone had experiences like this? If so, what did you do?
Yeah, when I worked for DSL support at Verizon, I got people like you on the phone all the time. Almost as irritating as daytraders. I told every single one the same thing:
Don't base your income on a residential service, you cheap fuck.
There's a reason a cable modem costs so much less than a T1, and the same for DSL. There's no quality guarantee. You want guaranteed uptime, you gotta pay for it.
--saint
we must wonder if these people truly clicked no thanks...they are using AOL after all
Ha ha ha ! Because AOL users are stupid! Ha ha ha! They probably don't know what they clicked! Ha ha ha! What a bunch of dummies! They probably use Windows, too! Ha ha ha!
Elitist bagbiter.
--saint
Some people might need more than just games and basic office suite components, just so that you're informed of anomalies such as this. Take for example the people who develop software..
...they can already set up their own dual boot system without any help from Dell.
--saint
Actually i believe that some of the cable companies here in Denmark are still using an Amiga for generating their "info channels"
The college I work for has their own cable TV network set up for the dorm residents. One of the channels that they get is an endlessly looping "info" channel with campus events and the like on it.
We _just_ retired the Amiga 1200 that's been doing this for years. And it was only because the poor thing had started to overheat and crash - the job it did was still more than adequate.
--saint
BSD?
Why?
Just because this is part of the standard, sheepish slashdot 'informative' comment may say it, it isn't necessarily true.
Because I have found that the *BSDs tend to be a bit more stable and secure as servers than the Linux distros I've tried.
Linux, on the other hand, tends to have more support for different hardware (especially laptops and newer components), so it seems more suited to desktop use.
Admittedly, my opinion is a little biased (my home network, for example, has OpenBSD on the server and Linux on a desktop), but if anecdotal evidence can be trusted I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
As for whatever you were trying to say in that last sentence, I really couldn't parse it. Sorry.
--saint
The solution would show GNU/Linux on most servers, Windows XP and Office XP on the desktops, keeping proprietary data formats and lock-in interfaces up to the next upgrade cycle, which in fact would have been problem number one to solve.
Sounds a little odd to me - given my druthers, I'd probably go with a BSD on the servers and a custom Linux distro on the desktops.
Speaking of which, I assume it would be SuSe?
But hey, what do I know. Not German, for one thing.
--saint
You've clearly never been a user on a network with stupid-bitch admins who block everything.
The fact that your employer's organization obviously leaves a bit to be desired is not something that can be solved with software engineering.
On the other hand, the fact that the admin at my site is calm and reasonable about this sort of thing is cancelled out by these idiotic decisions to run everything on port 80.
Don't always assume everyone else is in a boat full of shit.
--saint
HTTP is old and needs to be replaced, as soon as we can figure out what the best replacement is.
Er, why? Am I not being advertised to in the most efficient, flashy manner?
Fuck, the majority of what I use the web for could be handled by Gopher, let alone this fancy pants HTTP protocol.
--saint
The only kernel that's ever actually powered down my machine on shutdown or halt is the special 2.4.8 included with my Mandrake distro.
Has anyone else had this problem and actually fixed it??
Hasn't ever been a problem for me, using 2.2.19 or 2.4.10 - but then, I'm using a PPC system, so YMMV.
--saint
Basically, what's marked as 2.4.18 is really -rc3, and what's marked as -rc4 is what should have become 2.4.18. According to Marcelo on #kernelnewbies, most users won't be affected, but people on SPARC systems should definitely grab 2.4.18-rc4.
Wow. Now that's professionalism, eh? Good thing that this whole Open Source badge makes it all okay.
Would the fifteen second delay to rename a couple files before release really have killed anyone?
--saint
The US can't run around the world, butting in to conflicts and acting like some sort of benevolent super-sentient being, when during its time off from being a global-cop it likes to dump mercury in Asia. That's just hypocrisy like we've never seen before. USA! USA!
If I can't poison the children of a remote Chinese village, then the terrorists have already won.
*cough*
--saint
A professor's code is not necessarily the best code in the world.
If it was, they wouldn't have to squeak by on a professor's salary.
--saint
Are you so sure that the title is warranted? Somehow I doubt that this effect is entirely unintended.
After all, speaking as the Ugly American that I am, it seems that the main point is to get the crap we don't want out of the country. Well, shit, mission accomplished there, huh?
What happens to it afterward is not our problem. And frankly, I live in an area once known for its steel foundries, and never known for environmental consciousness.
--saint
The main problem with that is that Sun makes money by selling sparcstations. They are a hardware company who makes they revenue from servers and service contracts. If they promote an OS for X86 they are competing against their cash-cow. Especially with the powerful chips that Intel now puts out.
And yet I can't read a single article in the snazzy new apple section without some nimrod yelling about how good it would be for Apple to release OS X for Intel hardware.
Sigh.
This moment of bitterness brought to you by a Macintosh user.
--saint
I'm constantly told that Macs are best for contention creation
Meaning that mentioning Macs is the best way to start a flame war?
Typo, or clever pun? You be the judge.
--saint
I disagree, it should be easy once the GUI-kit of GNUstep is complete which should be later on this year.
Great. Hope I can run it on HURD, which has been complete since the Reagan administration, right?
--saint
Well, finally OS X users are getting their wish: Adobe has finally made good on their promise to bring native OS X support to their graphical applications. C|Net is running a story on the upcoming version of Photoshop
It's been upcoming for months. I'll believe it when I can get my mitts on a copy from the Apple Store.
Of course, the way things are going, I'll be able to get that new G4 Amiga first.
--saint
I always wondered why the other machines of the Amiga's heyday don't have the same bull-terrier style fan base.
Why am I not hearing rumor after rumor, year after year, about the return of the Atari ST, for example?
I seem to remember some vicious flame wars between these two camps back in the eighties, when Commodore and Atari were not only still in existence but actually relevant to the computer industry. Why are the Amiga folks the only ones still carrying the torch for their long deceased platform?
--saint
Installing SuSE 7.3, Red Hat 7.2, Mandrake 8.1, Lycoris DesktopLX or Caldera 3.1 is as easy as installing Windows
I've at least seen the others, but has anyone used this Lycoris distro? How does it stack up?
--saint