Duh, of course Microsoft tests patches before they leave the company.
The problem is that occationally people will rely upon undefined behavior of functions or activities, and when those behaviors change, their code breaks.
If people would stop writing Windows code that depeneded upon undefined behaviour, then things would be a heck of a lot better!
When I worked for a well-known ISP selling their internet connections, we were instructed that if we had any computer problems, that we were to tell the person on the phone, "Unfortunately, due to the updates that we're performing in order to benefit you, we're not going to be able to process your request at this time."
That way, when our computers are down, people won't think we're frantically running around or totally crippled, but will rather think, "Hey, that's cool. They're updating... odd that they would have chosen a time of day when they're doing work to do this..."
I don't believe crap from anyone now if they tell me that they're "updating for my convenience." Especially when I'm having trouble getting them to do something for me.
The patch was released for Windows 2000, XP, and Server 2003.
If Zotob isn't infecting Windows XP, it's because of a failure of the authors to account for portability. Some later author could potentially fix this.
As always, it's recommended to patch your Operating System after a critical security patch. So, take the breather that you have if you're using Windows XP, to go out and patch the vulnerability out of your Windows XP box.
Shit, you wouldn't need that much for Ikea to turn into a riot. I visited my first Ikea a couple days ago (new to Seattle, need furniture, got headclocked with Ikea commercials in Germany, "Wohnst du noch? oder lebst du schon?" So, I wanted to check them out.
I mean... DAMN. This place was packed from one end of the store to the other to varying degrees. Every exit->entrance to a different section of the store was a line, and a 5 minute wait.
I'm surprised Ikea doesn't have riots on a normal basis.... I mean, it's worse than WAL-MART!
OOoooo! That reminds me of how my mother actually managed to get a small computer lab in her classroom.
No one else wanted the aging Macintoshes (granted, the things were the original one-piece Macs, before the iMac, and very low-end PowerPCs) So, my mom, realizing that she could still install good edutainment software on them, grabbed up about 5 or 6 of them, and BOOM! Her classroom has more computers than everyone else, because everyone else put all their attention on the newest/fastest Dells.
Seriously, it's lack of realization that computers can be useful beyond obsolecence that is the problem. My mom picked up on it and profitted quite well for her students. She had plenty of room for a number of students to use a computer, and reduced wait-time and chances of a child getting pissed that he can't use a computer, while Bobby can.
I'll take this one on. Let's start with minimal microkernel, then build ontop of that an OpenBSD like subsystem. (just because it has the resources that I'm aware of, and will be using.)
Now, all the absolutely vital system components that could be used for the exploitation of the system for a rootkit. Mark those system immutable.
Now, the hacker needs physical access, and single user mode to hijack your system. I'd call that as secure as you can get.
Now, granted... like you said, this is the end of the exploit. If they had sufficient eploits to get physical access and single user mode, well then, I suppose they *could* install a root kit.
But how many script kiddies do you let into your house?
Today the RIAA reported that the root cause of their piracy problems was their pricing scheme. When asked how to deal with the issue, they said that they were going to make music more affordable, so that it cost less time and money than the time and effort to pirate it.
In other news, 42 inches of snow fell hard in Hell today, to the surprised residences. A sweet scene of tortured souls being allowed a break to run out and have fun due to the little known "Snow Day" clause that let them have the day off. Aww... they're making snow angels... isn't that cute?
It's about as large as a normal dictionary. I won a scholarship in high school for being the student, who had learned German the best (meaning: at all) so they gave me $50. So me with my moral bearing went out and bought a $50 German-English dictionary.
I'm happy that I have purchased it though. The thing is great. Not as good as some online translators, but sometimes it's good to have the paper between your fingers, and just rifle through and look up randomness.
I'd have to agree with you. There's no contingency taken that the results must be disjoint.
So, we'd need a test for search results of the same sort, only track unique pages. This would really only give an average list, but we're trying to find the number of underlying indices, not the number of search results for foo and bar independently.
"George Bush" transliterated to Arabic characters, or Hebrew or Cyrillic characters will not return the same results.
Let's drop into even just Latin searches. English and German transliterate Russian names differently. During the Ukraine election debatacle, I was keeping track of it through spiegel.de This caused me to not be able to readily recognize the relavent names in US news, because they were spelt differently.
Not on the part of the individual in question perhaps, more the failure of the educated portion of the US electorate to stop a war mongering facist from being re-elected.
You're making the assumption that the educated portion of the US did not want him to be re-elected. Remember, people with an education aren't all the same liberals that wander around your campus.
The general view of voting educated people is that they are conservative.
I'd rather say, it's the success of a bunch of educated war-mongering jump-on-the-bandwagon people to keep him in office.
You can look at is as a failure of the minority opinion of the US to keep him from getting re-elected, but at that point, you have a smaller failure against a bigger success, and we can move on to arguing POV.
I bought a German-English Dictionary, (I'm a native English speaker) and casually happened to mention to someone that it had words in it that I'd never seen before.
My friend replied, "Well, duh, it's not like you know German that well."
To which I pointed out to him, that I was refering to the ENGLISH side.
Any foreign language dictionary that can give me the obscure proper past tense of the nautical word "heave" is awesome in my book. (FYI: it's "heave, hove, hove")
No, Maelstrom is a good friend of mine. He was actually on Slashdot before they had UIDs.
He actually told me once about sitting in an IRC room when someone came on named "CmdrTaco" and he's like "who's this guy?" and This Guy proceeded to plug his site "SlashDot".
Don't assume everyone is a eBay sploiter just because you are.
Good point. And this is definitely in the FSF's interests.
A major sticking point that one can have against F/OSS is code origin. Verifying that everyone, who has committed code has does so validly. (Same problem applies to commercial code, and in fact all code.)
If you have everyone, who contributes to a project assign copyrights to the project (or the project maintainer if no such corporate identity exists), along with word-for-hire disclaimers from their employers, then you effectively solve this problem of code origin.
Of course, this also presents problems. In Germany, you cannot assign copyrights. PearPC being primarily developed by German devs (something like 90% of the code at least) is of particular point for this. While all devel could assign their US rights to Sebastian for enforcement within the US, if a suit comes up in Germany, then each person would still have to act individually. It's called Urheberrecht, which to me means very close to "original origin right."
I don't know how far Germany goes in allowing works-for-hire, but non-works-for-hire the author definitely maintains rights for life, and cannot even willingly reassign those rights.
Yeah, Windows is so much better to use. Like, when I openned up Outlook and wanted to search for some information. I hit CTRL-F (Find in every other application) and guess what? THAT'S NOT IT.
I stumble around the menus until I find "Find..." and guess what? It's CTRL-E, completely dissimilar to every other application. It's not even in the same MENU location as everywhere else.
What makes Macs superior to me is that once you learn where and how things work, everything works that same way. You don't have to learn anything wonky, you just have to learn it once. When I learned that CMD-F is find, and that it's find for all applications, that's easy.
Not like beating my head against windows everyday just to try and be productive.
BTW, yes, someone can write an app where Find were not in the correct Menu location, or have the shortcut CMD-F... AND PEOPLE WOULD COMPLAIN. Because in the Mac world, if an app doesn't conform to the UI standards, it's ANNOYING.
Like in the Army, we had 60 guys all marching together. The one who's out of step (usually me) is WAY easy to pick out, because he's the only one out of 60 doing it wrong. If you have 60 people all marching out of step (Windows world) then you can't notice that every application is doing something different.
*** Views expressed are mine, and do not reflect Microsoft's opinions.
The FSF does *not* recommend that you transfer your copyrights to GPL licensed works to them.
You don't need the FSF's attorney-fu, you can get the same attorney-fu from the Software Freedom Law Center (Eben Moglen)
Now, all this said, if you assign your copyrights to the FSF, then they can take care of them, but it's neither necessary, nor do they really want a hojillion copyrights for projects whose authors are just as capable of providing legal service as they are.
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Duh, of course Microsoft tests patches before they leave the company.
The problem is that occationally people will rely upon undefined behavior of functions or activities, and when those behaviors change, their code breaks.
If people would stop writing Windows code that depeneded upon undefined behaviour, then things would be a heck of a lot better!
When I worked for a well-known ISP selling their internet connections, we were instructed that if we had any computer problems, that we were to tell the person on the phone, "Unfortunately, due to the updates that we're performing in order to benefit you, we're not going to be able to process your request at this time."
That way, when our computers are down, people won't think we're frantically running around or totally crippled, but will rather think, "Hey, that's cool. They're updating... odd that they would have chosen a time of day when they're doing work to do this..."
I don't believe crap from anyone now if they tell me that they're "updating for my convenience." Especially when I'm having trouble getting them to do something for me.
Wrong, I was blocked from installing the patch on my shiny new Windows XP machine here at the Microsoft Campus.
I had to activate my copy of Windows before it would let me install the patch for Windows XP.
So, next time try not to assume that because someone once told you something, that it's fact. Fact can usually be very often different.
The patch was released for Windows 2000, XP, and Server 2003.
If Zotob isn't infecting Windows XP, it's because of a failure of the authors to account for portability. Some later author could potentially fix this.
As always, it's recommended to patch your Operating System after a critical security patch. So, take the breather that you have if you're using Windows XP, to go out and patch the vulnerability out of your Windows XP box.
(opinions expressed are my own.)
Yeah, Microsoft thinks that everyone should be running Windows XP...
Despite the fact that Microsoft has released a patch for Windows 2000 to plug the hole that the worms are exploiting.
It's the companies fault for not having patched. Microsoft released them as critical updates, and that they needed to be installed.
Also, Microsoft has Windows Server 2003, which is generally going to be a much better upgrade choice from 2000, than XP.
(Opinions expressed are my own.)
Shit, you wouldn't need that much for Ikea to turn into a riot. I visited my first Ikea a couple days ago (new to Seattle, need furniture, got headclocked with Ikea commercials in Germany, "Wohnst du noch? oder lebst du schon?" So, I wanted to check them out.
... I mean, it's worse than WAL-MART!
I mean... DAMN. This place was packed from one end of the store to the other to varying degrees. Every exit->entrance to a different section of the store was a line, and a 5 minute wait.
I'm surprised Ikea doesn't have riots on a normal basis.
OOoooo! That reminds me of how my mother actually managed to get a small computer lab in her classroom.
No one else wanted the aging Macintoshes (granted, the things were the original one-piece Macs, before the iMac, and very low-end PowerPCs) So, my mom, realizing that she could still install good edutainment software on them, grabbed up about 5 or 6 of them, and BOOM! Her classroom has more computers than everyone else, because everyone else put all their attention on the newest/fastest Dells.
Seriously, it's lack of realization that computers can be useful beyond obsolecence that is the problem. My mom picked up on it and profitted quite well for her students. She had plenty of room for a number of students to use a computer, and reduced wait-time and chances of a child getting pissed that he can't use a computer, while Bobby can.
I will say for a fact that OpenBSD has rootkits available for it.
Most assuredly, because I've actually had one installed by a cracker on my OpenBSD box.
The one remote exploit in OpenBSD's default install and I get bit by it... AFTER having patched 5 other machines against it.
I'll take this one on. Let's start with minimal microkernel, then build ontop of that an OpenBSD like subsystem. (just because it has the resources that I'm aware of, and will be using.)
Now, all the absolutely vital system components that could be used for the exploitation of the system for a rootkit. Mark those system immutable.
Now, the hacker needs physical access, and single user mode to hijack your system. I'd call that as secure as you can get.
Now, granted... like you said, this is the end of the exploit. If they had sufficient eploits to get physical access and single user mode, well then, I suppose they *could* install a root kit.
But how many script kiddies do you let into your house?
I always post with my karma bonus.
If you don't like it, then the next time you have mod points, mod me down, and get my karma down to the point that I don't have a karma bonus anymore.
Until then, shut up, I can use my karma bonus however I want. That's my right as someone who has the karma bonus.
Today the RIAA reported that the root cause of their piracy problems was their pricing scheme. When asked how to deal with the issue, they said that they were going to make music more affordable, so that it cost less time and money than the time and effort to pirate it.
In other news, 42 inches of snow fell hard in Hell today, to the surprised residences. A sweet scene of tortured souls being allowed a break to run out and have fun due to the little known "Snow Day" clause that let them have the day off. Aww... they're making snow angels... isn't that cute?
It's about as large as a normal dictionary. I won a scholarship in high school for being the student, who had learned German the best (meaning: at all) so they gave me $50. So me with my moral bearing went out and bought a $50 German-English dictionary.
I'm happy that I have purchased it though. The thing is great. Not as good as some online translators, but sometimes it's good to have the paper between your fingers, and just rifle through and look up randomness.
It's not overestimating... it's rounding graciously...
So, let me get this straight.
You're pissed, because they ignored you as a sole lone person from access to a limited resource (that being their developers)
You're also only more justified in your being pissed, because they care about an audience of 10/100's of thousands to millions?
I have just one short phrase for you: JUST STOP, AND THINK
You need to watch for transliterations also though:
Michail Gorbatschow:
Google: 124,000
Yahoo: 229,000
Mikhail Gorbachev:
Google: 538,000
Yahoo: 1,760,000
Hm... it does appear that the pattern holds despite though.
I'd have to agree with you. There's no contingency taken that the results must be disjoint.
So, we'd need a test for search results of the same sort, only track unique pages. This would really only give an average list, but we're trying to find the number of underlying indices, not the number of search results for foo and bar independently.
Assuming the Copernican position that I am not atypical, I would therefore extrapolate that this is very true for most other people as well.
You're stretching your results too far. I'd stick with "it's true for many other people" rather than most.
Of course, I fall into your same category, so I suppose the number would be 2 * "many other people"...
Please ignore my babblings...........
You ignore the problem of transliteration.
"George Bush" transliterated to Arabic characters, or Hebrew or Cyrillic characters will not return the same results.
Let's drop into even just Latin searches. English and German transliterate Russian names differently. During the Ukraine election debatacle, I was keeping track of it through spiegel.de This caused me to not be able to readily recognize the relavent names in US news, because they were spelt differently.
Not on the part of the individual in question perhaps, more the failure of the educated portion of the US electorate to stop a war mongering facist from being re-elected.
You're making the assumption that the educated portion of the US did not want him to be re-elected. Remember, people with an education aren't all the same liberals that wander around your campus.
The general view of voting educated people is that they are conservative.
I'd rather say, it's the success of a bunch of educated war-mongering jump-on-the-bandwagon people to keep him in office.
You can look at is as a failure of the minority opinion of the US to keep him from getting re-elected, but at that point, you have a smaller failure against a bigger success, and we can move on to arguing POV.
I bought a German-English Dictionary, (I'm a native English speaker) and casually happened to mention to someone that it had words in it that I'd never seen before.
My friend replied, "Well, duh, it's not like you know German that well."
To which I pointed out to him, that I was refering to the ENGLISH side.
Any foreign language dictionary that can give me the obscure proper past tense of the nautical word "heave" is awesome in my book. (FYI: it's "heave, hove, hove")
Well, Michael Moore is second place.
So, I'd say that it's at least fair and non-partisan.
No, Maelstrom is a good friend of mine. He was actually on Slashdot before they had UIDs.
He actually told me once about sitting in an IRC room when someone came on named "CmdrTaco" and he's like "who's this guy?" and This Guy proceeded to plug his site "SlashDot".
Don't assume everyone is a eBay sploiter just because you are.
Good point. And this is definitely in the FSF's interests.
A major sticking point that one can have against F/OSS is code origin. Verifying that everyone, who has committed code has does so validly. (Same problem applies to commercial code, and in fact all code.)
If you have everyone, who contributes to a project assign copyrights to the project (or the project maintainer if no such corporate identity exists), along with word-for-hire disclaimers from their employers, then you effectively solve this problem of code origin.
Of course, this also presents problems. In Germany, you cannot assign copyrights. PearPC being primarily developed by German devs (something like 90% of the code at least) is of particular point for this. While all devel could assign their US rights to Sebastian for enforcement within the US, if a suit comes up in Germany, then each person would still have to act individually. It's called Urheberrecht, which to me means very close to "original origin right."
I don't know how far Germany goes in allowing works-for-hire, but non-works-for-hire the author definitely maintains rights for life, and cannot even willingly reassign those rights.
Yeah, Windows is so much better to use. Like, when I openned up Outlook and wanted to search for some information. I hit CTRL-F (Find in every other application) and guess what? THAT'S NOT IT.
I stumble around the menus until I find "Find..." and guess what? It's CTRL-E, completely dissimilar to every other application. It's not even in the same MENU location as everywhere else.
What makes Macs superior to me is that once you learn where and how things work, everything works that same way. You don't have to learn anything wonky, you just have to learn it once. When I learned that CMD-F is find, and that it's find for all applications, that's easy.
Not like beating my head against windows everyday just to try and be productive.
BTW, yes, someone can write an app where Find were not in the correct Menu location, or have the shortcut CMD-F... AND PEOPLE WOULD COMPLAIN. Because in the Mac world, if an app doesn't conform to the UI standards, it's ANNOYING.
Like in the Army, we had 60 guys all marching together. The one who's out of step (usually me) is WAY easy to pick out, because he's the only one out of 60 doing it wrong. If you have 60 people all marching out of step (Windows world) then you can't notice that every application is doing something different.
*** Views expressed are mine, and do not reflect Microsoft's opinions.
The FSF does *not* recommend that you transfer your copyrights to GPL licensed works to them.
You don't need the FSF's attorney-fu, you can get the same attorney-fu from the Software Freedom Law Center (Eben Moglen)
Now, all this said, if you assign your copyrights to the FSF, then they can take care of them, but it's neither necessary, nor do they really want a hojillion copyrights for projects whose authors are just as capable of providing legal service as they are.