I would like about how YOUR apps register their COM objects, DLLs, etc and repair themself, Mr. AC.
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He was talking more about calling code between platforms. I assume he is using Web Services. I was at a local Microsoft presentation around two years ago were they showed calling between.Net and other non-.Net languages like Perl and Java. When they showed the sample with Java the MS guy says the Java code is simpler than the C# code. There was the silence of a cementary for some moments...
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1) Java by default won't use more than 64Mb of heap. If you want to give it more you must do using command line parameters. 2) I think that older versions of Java (previous to.Net as my post says) used less memory than current distributions. In any case the memory used will depend on what are you doing. 3) I don't work with.Net but given that conceptually works like Java (GC, VM, IL, JIT) I assume that runtime requirements are very similar. Feel to correct me if I'm wrong, I would like to know.
They should know, some of human DNA is stolen IP from SCO. They just compared random samples of DNA to one SCO employee and found a lot of common secuences in the code. They will start asking for payments the next week.
The one with no inputs/outputs, if compromised (?) you don't care;-)
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That's the biggest FUD I have seem so far. Your talking about "pseudocompiled" makes me think you don't know how either language really works. OTOH I agree that both are relative simple to decompile. The speed will depend of your particular use, but in some cases programs in Java are faster than C programs.
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Of all the features that C# has the only I would like to see in Java is explicit override. Fortunately there is a proposal for incorporating that with the metadata support in 1.5. The other features I want off of my projects.
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I fail to see why is your example so great. It could be easily implemented in Java before.Net existed.
I disagree with a few thing. You may not like Java, ok. Java may use more memory/cpu than python for your project, ok. Java may not have features that Python has, ok. But that doesn't mean Java is as good as anybody language or less capable. May be you have not noted it but there are a lot of things that Java does that Python doesn't do.
BTW less is more... is false. Reading too much Orwell?
"I need a functionality of J2EE (specifically EJB, JAX, JMX, JMS)." "With the same version of Python interpreter (not like some pitty micro-edition) I can get that functionality with a compbination of libraries"
I doubt you really need the full functionality of those Java packages if you can replace them with a few libraries. Perhaps you should use tomcat/jsp/struts and a smaller xml parser or a standalone app. Do you need to startup many times? A J2EE server should be always up. BTW the beta says it has shorter startup times and shared classes between sessions.
Do you have a link that says otherwise? If don't is you against us and we are more...:-) Seriously, I would not go us far as to say that Java is open source but give IBM and Oracle lawyers some credit.
For a slashdot user is ok. I too like to have the option not to install, but what I mean is that to gain market share you NEED installers. No way Grandma is going to unzip a program. Tech users are the minority of the known world.
In fact the religous hate factor was increased because it is like a way of excape to the west supported orient dictatorships (like Saudi Arab monarchs, the Sha of Iran, etc). Western support dictatorships to keep the oil fuel. The people is oppresed, they goto religious extremists, the extremists attack west, west reacts and the wheel keeps turning.
Dude no offense but that sig is pathetical. What would be barbarism, what is civilization and what the force? Being forceful you can turn civilization into barbarism, even without others help.
Zero. I mean the number zero. Arabic numbers. That thing used to navigation by stars. A culture of religious tolerance that used to acept jews hunted by the inquisition. Buildings designed to be cool in the desert. I mean before western introduced crusades and petrol. More recently I'm not well informed.
It's easier that it seem using a mnemonic rule: four integers between 0 and 255 and a dot between each of them. Works like a charm. The same method even could be extended to IPv6. Now if you want to memorize the association of address to names it's a little more difficult...
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I would like about how YOUR apps register their COM objects, DLLs, etc and repair themself, Mr. AC.
He was talking more about calling code between platforms. I assume he is using Web Services. I was at a local Microsoft presentation around two years ago were they showed calling between .Net and other non-.Net languages like Perl and Java. When they showed the sample with Java the MS guy says the Java code is simpler than the C# code. There was the silence of a cementary for some moments...
1) Java by default won't use more than 64Mb of heap. If you want to give it more you must do using command line parameters. .Net as my post says) used less memory than current distributions. In any case the memory used will depend on what are you doing. .Net but given that conceptually works like Java (GC, VM, IL, JIT) I assume that runtime requirements are very similar. Feel to correct me if I'm wrong, I would like to know.
2) I think that older versions of Java (previous to
3) I don't work with
May be they are claiming ownership of closing braces. At least we still have the opening braces.
They should know, some of human DNA is stolen IP from SCO. They just compared random samples of DNA to one SCO employee and found a lot of common secuences in the code. They will start asking for payments the next week.
Ha! you show what a quiche eater are you; real programmers hand-code their kernels in machine language from the printed source code.
The one with no inputs/outputs, if compromised (?) you don't care ;-)
That's the biggest FUD I have seem so far. Your talking about "pseudocompiled" makes me think you don't know how either language really works.
OTOH I agree that both are relative simple to decompile.
The speed will depend of your particular use, but in some cases programs in Java are faster than C programs.
Of all the features that C# has the only I would like to see in Java is explicit override. Fortunately there is a proposal for incorporating that with the metadata support in 1.5. The other features I want off of my projects.
I fail to see why is your example so great. It could be easily implemented in Java before .Net existed.
One may love the preprocessor but get married with ./configure. Oh wait...
I guess they would have to close the doors by shortage of sponsors, but doubtless that would be very fast!
Don't wait for tomorrow what you can get done today with templates...
I disagree with a few thing. You may not like Java, ok. Java may use more memory/cpu than python for your project, ok. Java may not have features that Python has, ok. But that doesn't mean Java is as good as anybody language or less capable. May be you have not noted it but there are a lot of things that Java does that Python doesn't do.
BTW less is more... is false. Reading too much Orwell?
"I need a functionality of J2EE (specifically EJB, JAX, JMX, JMS)."
"With the same version of Python interpreter (not like some pitty micro-edition) I can get that functionality with a compbination of libraries"
I doubt you really need the full functionality of those Java packages if you can replace them with a few libraries. Perhaps you should use tomcat/jsp/struts and a smaller xml parser or a standalone app.
Do you need to startup many times? A J2EE server should be always up. BTW the beta says it has shorter startup times and shared classes between sessions.
Do you have a link that says otherwise? :-)
If don't is you against us and we are more...
Seriously, I would not go us far as to say that Java is open source but give IBM and Oracle lawyers some credit.
I'm using Mozilla 1.5 and is just fine. A great improvement over the previous theserverside L&F that had problems in Mozilla.
For a slashdot user is ok. I too like to have the option not to install, but what I mean is that to gain market share you NEED installers. No way Grandma is going to unzip a program. Tech users are the minority of the known world.
An installer. Automatic integration with Java. Without at least those is not ready for mainstream.
Oh well, if I can be insightful at least may I be funny.
In fact the religous hate factor was increased because it is like a way of excape to the west supported orient dictatorships (like Saudi Arab monarchs, the Sha of Iran, etc). Western support dictatorships to keep the oil fuel. The people is oppresed, they goto religious extremists, the extremists attack west, west reacts and the wheel keeps turning.
Please read my post again. Slowly, very very slowly.
Dude no offense but that sig is pathetical. What would be barbarism, what is civilization and what the force? Being forceful you can turn civilization into barbarism, even without others help.
Zero. I mean the number zero. Arabic numbers. That thing used to navigation by stars. A culture of religious tolerance that used to acept jews hunted by the inquisition. Buildings designed to be cool in the desert.
I mean before western introduced crusades and petrol. More recently I'm not well informed.
It's easier that it seem using a mnemonic rule:
four integers between 0 and 255 and a dot between each of them. Works like a charm. The same method even could be extended to IPv6.
Now if you want to memorize the association of address to names it's a little more difficult...