Many colocation centers provide redundancy over multiple internet pipes through multiple ISPs. I'm not a network guy, but I think the protocol they use to do that nifty stuff is called BGP. Anyway, if a link to an ISP goes down, the routers automagically know to route the data through the remaining links. I remember reading stories about how on 9/11 many internet links were brought down with the towers but the internet hummed along(albeit with more latency and packetloss)
Not to troll, but how was the ending to Fellowship of the Ring any different? The action had an abrupt end with no resolution. The only difference is that they went straight to the credits instead of to a "To be concluded..." banner.
To further boost sales for lower-rating movies, there are lots of theaters that will turn people away if they aren't old enough to see a movie. I don't know about much of the country, but where I live it's a rarity to find a theater that will let the rules slide. What do these people do when they can't see what they want? Go home? NO! They'll see a different movie. Let's see... what else is playing? How about Finding Nemo?
Which leads to an interesting problem in all the statistics. Of the people that showed up to the movie theatres and couldn't get into the R rated movies, how many bought tickets to a lesser-rated movie and walked into a different theatre? I went with a group to see Matrix Reloaded, and out of 9 people, 3 people bought tickets to Nemo and walked into the Reloaded theatre with me.
BTW, I'm not purchasing this DVD. Why collect media at all anymore? I have only one answer to this. Transport of large amounts is still cheaper and faster by foot. Other than that, Net becoming fast ubiquitous, I think I'll make the leap and commit to media-less entertainment.
Even is you don't want to collect media, you should still buy it so that the people who made it can get paid. Commiting to media-less entertainment hurts the people that entertain you(If I interpreted your comment correctly (I.E. you're just gonna kazaa it))
Which is why it's a good compromise. There are many people (me included) who view embryos as humans, and consequently view their destruction through research as wrong, even if it can help people.
But he didn't just cut all funding immediately, he said 'You guys can play with the embryos you have already destroyed, but after that, you need to find your own money to do it' Which is a good compromise because it appeases his constituency(sp?) while not totally leaving his opponents in the cold.
1. Bush, George W. - US President (100%) Click here for info 2. Libertarian Candidate (87%) Click here for info 3. McCain, Senator John, AZ- Republican (74%) Click here for info 4. Buchanan, Patrick J. - Reform/Republican (72%) Click here for info 5. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (61%) Click here for info 6. Biden, Senator Joe, DE - Democrat (58%) Click here for info 7. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (57%) Click here for info 8. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (56%) Click here for info 9. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (55%) Click here for info 10. Gephardt, Cong. Dick, MO - Democrat (54%) Click here for info 11. Graham, Senator Bob, FL - Democrat (49%) Click here for info 12. Kaptur, Cong. Marcy, OH - Democrat (47%) Click here for info 13. Feinstein, Senator Dianne, CA - Democrat (47%) Click here for info 14. Jackson, Cong. Jesse Jr., IL - Democrat (46%) Click here for info 15. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (45%) Click here for info 16. Feingold, Senator Russ, WI - Democrat (43%) Click here for info 17. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (43%) Click here for info 18. Leahy, Patrick Senator, Vermont - Democrat (40%) Click here for info 19. Bradley, Former Senator Bill NJ - Democrat (35%) Click here for info 20. Hagelin, John - Natural Law (34%) Click here for info 21. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat (31%) Click here for info 22. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (26%) Click here for info 23. Green Party Candidate (26%) Click here for info 24. Socialist Candidate (25%) Click here for info 25. Vilsack, Governor. Tom IA - Democrat (19%) Click here for info 26. Clark, Retired Army General Wesley K "Wes" Arkansas - Democrat (16%) Click here for info 27. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (0%) Click here for info
rather than the fact that they support wasting more money on computers for schools (my opinion is that there is almost no place for computers in schools. There is a place for better instruction, which a computer will never compare to), and more crappily trained teachers. You can bitch about class size all you want, but if the students could be more effective at teaching than the freak show getting paid, then there needs to be actual thought and investigation into better means rather than just throwing money at the schools and call it "good."
Right on. Being a public school student, I can firmly say that spending more money on workstations is a waste of time and money. Give each school a computer lab or two and that's it. My school had computers in every class and whatnot, but we just used them to check email and browse the internet. Pay the teachers more with that money instead of wasting it on unneeded equipment(That said, the infrastructure of public school networks needs help: i.e. servers, switches, etc...my school has 1000 odd students and something like 200 computers, and there is only 1 switch, all the rest are hubs:( )
Hiring idiots to lower class sizes is dumb too. I don't know a lick of chemistry after taking the class because of the sad excuse for a chem teacher they hired to lower teacher:student ratios.
That's a great point. It appears that you are on the opposite end of the political spectrum as me, but that logic just makes sense (and is some of the basis for many conservative's dislike of large governmental agencies)
Another point you could make is that health care in this country is the 7th largest industry, and it would take more than a little coaxing to turn all of those competing companies into a well-oiled machine
Really? What are you sources for that information?Try the DOE's own statistics, man. I'm not gonna go through all of it, but a good example of what the parent is talking about is: D.C. has the highest per-capita expenditure on public education compared to any of the 50 states (something on the order of $12,000 a year). If you look at whatever report they provide listing test scores and money spent, you'll see that there is little to no correlation between what people invest and what they get.
Your obviously trolling and I'm not gonna throw a long involved answer back to your little lair, but public education is a joke of interfering laws, red tape, misspending, and parental apathy. I should know, I just graduated this spring. The one thing that noone ever suggests that would help out schools 9 million percent is to get parents to care about their kid's performance, enough said. I live in Nashville, TN and I was looking over my state's department of education data. Nashville performed mediocrely while Oak Ridge performed amazingly for approximately the same amount of money. Wanna know why? In oak ridge, an overwhelming majority of parents care about their kids education and as a result, the children thrive. In nashville, many people (some of them my friends) couldn't care how their kids do as long as they go on to the next grade level.
In summation, (money != success) && (parental interest == success)
Problem is, the rich already pay the lionshare of income taxes (top 5% pays 50%). Even the 'middle class' pulls tons of weight (top 50% pays 95%) It's getting to the point where a)the middle class is buckling under the weight of the taxes thrown on them b)the rich are creating less jobs for the poor because of the high overhead.
It's already happening, but it's gonna suck when our government's policies force all of the job producing corporations out of the country (much like what's happening to Brazil)
Anyway close to 2/3 of all Americans in a recent CNN poll said they would likely vote for Bush again if another candidate does not appeal to them. I think in 2000 the number was opposite in favor of Gore Does that poll mean all voters or the voters who voted for bush would vote for him again.
--So he screwed us in scientific research how?
Stem cells.
Uhh, how? That was the best comprimise he could've made. He didn't ban stem cell research. He didn't ban federally supported stem cell research. He banned harvesting more humans for research with federal money. Private corporations can and are still researching their uses. What's the big deal about that? The research the government paid for would still be exploited by corporations for a profit if it was federally funded, only now the corporations have to pay for their own research.
I'm no liberal(read my sig), but from my outsiders point of view, it seems like howard dean has the momentum. Many of my liberal friends view Sharpton as a bit of a quack, and dean is more visible in the press. That said, the tremendus black vote he could amass could tip the scales his way.
It depends on how the CPU handles the stack. When I said it was a fault of the x86 architechture, I didn't mean that only the x86 was vulnerable, there are other CPUs which are just as vulnerable to that attack. I was just saying that it's a hardware problem and not a software one
Returning to your example..if you rewrote the exploit in PPC assembler(most exploits like that are hand coded) and PPC was vulnerable, it would work.
Fine, I won't bore you with "some tripe" as you so eloquently trolled
Not an intentional troll, I'm just sick and tired of the "I can't do it" attitude that's been forming. So many people sit on their butts and complain about how they're stuck where they are, and then there's the people who work incredibly hard and take night classes to get the right knowledge(sp?).
And one day you'll appreciate me just as much when you come looking for a place on my goggle-run assembly line because your immigrant friends have found a way to replace you. Joke's on you, I am one of those immigrant friends (originally from Brazil). My mom and dad each worked one or two jobs, did nightschool, and STILL made sure that at least one of them was at home to watch me. It was the hardest 15 odd years of their life, but it took them from the streets of Rio to the 'American dream'. They could've easily said, 'Woe is me, I'm stuck in brazil, with inflation rates reaching into the 100's, unemployment in the 30's', but they stopped whining and did something about it, which is what more people here should do.
If the Xbox ran linux, the same exploit would work. It's a by product of the x86 architechture and the writers of the exploitable save programs, not Microsoft.
Parent says:As for creativity.. I'm not talking about major modifications to the design (though there are times when workers come up with innovations to the process), but smaller optimizations. A left handed worker may do things different than a right handed one, and generally speaking, anyone who does the same thing 10,000 times will find some way to speed up the process.
Workers will still be able to fasten the bolts however they want to, overhand grip, underhand grip whatever, as long as the correct bolt is applied the correct torque at the correct time all is good. When working on stuff in my car there are many things which must be exactly right or things don't work right (Ex: When replacing a valve cover, follow the bolt pattern in the repair manual or be prepared to redo it after you learn that oil leaks out)
Well, maybe your situation as a "factory slave" (as you put it) will cause you to maybe want to move up to a more enjoyable (and maybe profitable) job.
Come back to me with some tripe about how your stuck where you are, and I'll give you a couple stories from my immigrant friends.
I think the difficulty the parent mentioned was due to the fact that people look all over the place. I have a monitor 2 feet or so in front of me, but if I shift my eyes some, I can see the horizon which is real far away. To properly focus a display to line up with that would require a computer to track the eye, triangulate what it's looking at, then adjust the focus accordingly, which I assume is no small feat.
But horrible--you remove every bit of skill, creativity, and inititive
Uhhh....you're not supposed to have any of those things if your assembling an engine. The skill creativitiy and inititive comes from the engineers and designers, not the factory worker. I'd really hate it if my car blew up because John C. Doe decided to be 'creative' with my timing belt (I'm not sure if that can blow a car up, but that's about the extent of my car lingo).
I can see a day when people will be fired for putting in four screws in counter-clockwise when the labled instructions told them to do it clockwise.
Considering screws have 'threads' on them, they don't fasten well if you rotate them the wrong direction(if you can get them in at all)
You would change your tune however if someone screwing up assembling some equipment you use maimed you or a loved one. I know your following the "Protect the laborer!!!1!1!!" line but, safety and reliability are great plusses that could come out of this technology
If the computer is sophisticated enough too be able to visually recognise the bolts, determine their position to superimpose it on the display and knows how much torque to apply to it....why can't it do it itself?
1)Making it upgradable would increase cost, they wanted the cheapest box for the performance they could make (sockets cost money)
2)If you don't like the idea of not being able to write your own code for it, then don't buy it.
3)puts their logo on the front...in that case is Dell also evil?
4)If you even try to open this crippled PC, your warranty is void....why does microsoft have to warranty actions on the XBOX that it's not designed for? That's like me saying that AMD should still warranty my processors even if I'm running them out of spec
5)...you are breaking the law. Despite what the spindoctors say, as long as you aren't hacking your xbox to play copied games, they can't touch you if your putting your own software on there (that said, if a side effect of your little hack causes someone to be able to play burned games, then theyre gonna come after you (which sucks for fair use...).
6)The scariest part? Is that in 10 years, we wont be talking about a console. This is the future of the PC.That is the scary part though. Even though 'the powers that be' keep claiming that people will be able to run unsigned content on TCPA hardware. I can't imagine that it would 'accidentally' cripple things like linux and BSD that hurt the bottom line
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Many colocation centers provide redundancy over multiple internet pipes through multiple ISPs. I'm not a network guy, but I think the protocol they use to do that nifty stuff is called BGP. Anyway, if a link to an ISP goes down, the routers automagically know to route the data through the remaining links. I remember reading stories about how on 9/11 many internet links were brought down with the towers but the internet hummed along(albeit with more latency and packetloss)
Not to troll, but how was the ending to Fellowship of the Ring any different? The action had an abrupt end with no resolution. The only difference is that they went straight to the credits instead of to a "To be concluded..." banner.
To further boost sales for lower-rating movies, there are lots of theaters that will turn people away if they aren't old enough to see a movie. I don't know about much of the country, but where I live it's a rarity to find a theater that will let the rules slide. What do these people do when they can't see what they want? Go home? NO! They'll see a different movie. Let's see... what else is playing? How about Finding Nemo?
Which leads to an interesting problem in all the statistics. Of the people that showed up to the movie theatres and couldn't get into the R rated movies, how many bought tickets to a lesser-rated movie and walked into a different theatre? I went with a group to see Matrix Reloaded, and out of 9 people, 3 people bought tickets to Nemo and walked into the Reloaded theatre with me.
BTW, I'm not purchasing this DVD. Why collect media at all anymore? I have only one answer to this. Transport of large amounts is still cheaper and faster by foot. Other than that, Net becoming fast ubiquitous, I think I'll make the leap and commit to media-less entertainment.
Even is you don't want to collect media, you should still buy it so that the people who made it can get paid. Commiting to media-less entertainment hurts the people that entertain you(If I interpreted your comment correctly (I.E. you're just gonna kazaa it))
Which is why it's a good compromise. There are many people (me included) who view embryos as humans, and consequently view their destruction through research as wrong, even if it can help people.
But he didn't just cut all funding immediately, he said 'You guys can play with the embryos you have already destroyed, but after that, you need to find your own money to do it' Which is a good compromise because it appeases his constituency(sp?) while not totally leaving his opponents in the cold.
Here's my results, I guess it fits me well.
1. Bush, George W. - US President (100%) Click here for info
2. Libertarian Candidate (87%) Click here for info
3. McCain, Senator John, AZ- Republican (74%) Click here for info
4. Buchanan, Patrick J. - Reform/Republican (72%) Click here for info
5. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (61%) Click here for info
6. Biden, Senator Joe, DE - Democrat (58%) Click here for info
7. Lieberman Senator Joe CT - Democrat (57%) Click here for info
8. Kucinich, Cong. Dennis, OH - Democrat (56%) Click here for info
9. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (55%) Click here for info
10. Gephardt, Cong. Dick, MO - Democrat (54%) Click here for info
11. Graham, Senator Bob, FL - Democrat (49%) Click here for info
12. Kaptur, Cong. Marcy, OH - Democrat (47%) Click here for info
13. Feinstein, Senator Dianne, CA - Democrat (47%) Click here for info
14. Jackson, Cong. Jesse Jr., IL - Democrat (46%) Click here for info
15. Phillips, Howard - Constitution (45%) Click here for info
16. Feingold, Senator Russ, WI - Democrat (43%) Click here for info
17. Dean, Gov. Howard, VT - Democrat (43%) Click here for info
18. Leahy, Patrick Senator, Vermont - Democrat (40%) Click here for info
19. Bradley, Former Senator Bill NJ - Democrat (35%) Click here for info
20. Hagelin, John - Natural Law (34%) Click here for info
21. Moseley-Braun, Former Senator Carol IL - Democrat (31%) Click here for info
22. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (26%) Click here for info
23. Green Party Candidate (26%) Click here for info
24. Socialist Candidate (25%) Click here for info
25. Vilsack, Governor. Tom IA - Democrat (19%) Click here for info
26. Clark, Retired Army General Wesley K "Wes" Arkansas - Democrat (16%) Click here for info
27. LaRouche, Lyndon H. Jr. - Democrat (0%) Click here for info
rather than the fact that they support wasting more money on computers for schools (my opinion is that there is almost no place for computers in schools. There is a place for better instruction, which a computer will never compare to), and more crappily trained teachers. You can bitch about class size all you want, but if the students could be more effective at teaching than the freak show getting paid, then there needs to be actual thought and investigation into better means rather than just throwing money at the schools and call it "good."
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Right on. Being a public school student, I can firmly say that spending more money on workstations is a waste of time and money. Give each school a computer lab or two and that's it. My school had computers in every class and whatnot, but we just used them to check email and browse the internet. Pay the teachers more with that money instead of wasting it on unneeded equipment(That said, the infrastructure of public school networks needs help: i.e. servers, switches, etc...my school has 1000 odd students and something like 200 computers, and there is only 1 switch, all the rest are hubs
Hiring idiots to lower class sizes is dumb too. I don't know a lick of chemistry after taking the class because of the sad excuse for a chem teacher they hired to lower teacher:student ratios.
That's a great point. It appears that you are on the opposite end of the political spectrum as me, but that logic just makes sense (and is some of the basis for many conservative's dislike of large governmental agencies)
Another point you could make is that health care in this country is the 7th largest industry, and it would take more than a little coaxing to turn all of those competing companies into a well-oiled machine
Really? What are you sources for that information?Try the DOE's own statistics, man. I'm not gonna go through all of it, but a good example of what the parent is talking about is: D.C. has the highest per-capita expenditure on public education compared to any of the 50 states (something on the order of $12,000 a year). If you look at whatever report they provide listing test scores and money spent, you'll see that there is little to no correlation between what people invest and what they get.
Your obviously trolling and I'm not gonna throw a long involved answer back to your little lair, but public education is a joke of interfering laws, red tape, misspending, and parental apathy. I should know, I just graduated this spring. The one thing that noone ever suggests that would help out schools 9 million percent is to get parents to care about their kid's performance, enough said. I live in Nashville, TN and I was looking over my state's department of education data. Nashville performed mediocrely while Oak Ridge performed amazingly for approximately the same amount of money. Wanna know why? In oak ridge, an overwhelming majority of parents care about their kids education and as a result, the children thrive. In nashville, many people (some of them my friends) couldn't care how their kids do as long as they go on to the next grade level.
In summation, (money != success) && (parental interest == success)
Problem is, the rich already pay the lionshare of income taxes (top 5% pays 50%). Even the 'middle class' pulls tons of weight (top 50% pays 95%) It's getting to the point where a)the middle class is buckling under the weight of the taxes thrown on them b)the rich are creating less jobs for the poor because of the high overhead.
It's already happening, but it's gonna suck when our government's policies force all of the job producing corporations out of the country (much like what's happening to Brazil)
Anyway close to 2/3 of all Americans in a recent CNN poll said they would likely vote for Bush again if another candidate does not appeal to them. I think in 2000 the number was opposite in favor of Gore
Does that poll mean all voters or the voters who voted for bush would vote for him again.
--So he screwed us in scientific research how? Stem cells.
Uhh, how? That was the best comprimise he could've made. He didn't ban stem cell research. He didn't ban federally supported stem cell research. He banned harvesting more humans for research with federal money. Private corporations can and are still researching their uses. What's the big deal about that? The research the government paid for would still be exploited by corporations for a profit if it was federally funded, only now the corporations have to pay for their own research.
Well, I have a job, and a college education. And I paid for that shit myself.
;) (not trolling, read sig)
So fuck that, no way in hell I'll pay for someone else. Go Dean!
Spoken like a true conservative
I'm no liberal(read my sig), but from my outsiders point of view, it seems like howard dean has the momentum. Many of my liberal friends view Sharpton as a bit of a quack, and dean is more visible in the press. That said, the tremendus black vote he could amass could tip the scales his way.
It depends on how the CPU handles the stack. When I said it was a fault of the x86 architechture, I didn't mean that only the x86 was vulnerable, there are other CPUs which are just as vulnerable to that attack. I was just saying that it's a hardware problem and not a software one
Returning to your example..if you rewrote the exploit in PPC assembler(most exploits like that are hand coded) and PPC was vulnerable, it would work.
Fine, I won't bore you with "some tripe" as you so eloquently trolled
Not an intentional troll, I'm just sick and tired of the "I can't do it" attitude that's been forming. So many people sit on their butts and complain about how they're stuck where they are, and then there's the people who work incredibly hard and take night classes to get the right knowledge(sp?).
And one day you'll appreciate me just as much when you come looking for a place on my goggle-run assembly line because your immigrant friends have found a way to replace you.
Joke's on you, I am one of those immigrant friends (originally from Brazil). My mom and dad each worked one or two jobs, did nightschool, and STILL made sure that at least one of them was at home to watch me. It was the hardest 15 odd years of their life, but it took them from the streets of Rio to the 'American dream'. They could've easily said, 'Woe is me, I'm stuck in brazil, with inflation rates reaching into the 100's, unemployment in the 30's', but they stopped whining and did something about it, which is what more people here should do.
If the Xbox ran linux, the same exploit would work. It's a by product of the x86 architechture and the writers of the exploitable save programs, not Microsoft.
Parent says:As for creativity.. I'm not talking about major modifications to the design (though there are times when workers come up with innovations to the process), but smaller optimizations. A left handed worker may do things different than a right handed one, and generally speaking, anyone who does the same thing 10,000 times will find some way to speed up the process.
Workers will still be able to fasten the bolts however they want to, overhand grip, underhand grip whatever, as long as the correct bolt is applied the correct torque at the correct time all is good. When working on stuff in my car there are many things which must be exactly right or things don't work right (Ex: When replacing a valve cover, follow the bolt pattern in the repair manual or be prepared to redo it after you learn that oil leaks out)
Well, maybe your situation as a "factory slave" (as you put it) will cause you to maybe want to move up to a more enjoyable (and maybe profitable) job.
Come back to me with some tripe about how your stuck where you are, and I'll give you a couple stories from my immigrant friends.
I think the difficulty the parent mentioned was due to the fact that people look all over the place. I have a monitor 2 feet or so in front of me, but if I shift my eyes some, I can see the horizon which is real far away. To properly focus a display to line up with that would require a computer to track the eye, triangulate what it's looking at, then adjust the focus accordingly, which I assume is no small feat.
But horrible--you remove every bit of skill, creativity, and inititive
Uhhh....you're not supposed to have any of those things if your assembling an engine. The skill creativitiy and inititive comes from the engineers and designers, not the factory worker. I'd really hate it if my car blew up because John C. Doe decided to be 'creative' with my timing belt (I'm not sure if that can blow a car up, but that's about the extent of my car lingo).
I can see a day when people will be fired for putting in four screws in counter-clockwise when the labled instructions told them to do it clockwise.
Considering screws have 'threads' on them, they don't fasten well if you rotate them the wrong direction(if you can get them in at all)
You would change your tune however if someone screwing up assembling some equipment you use maimed you or a loved one. I know your following the "Protect the laborer!!!1!1!!" line but, safety and reliability are great plusses that could come out of this technology
If the computer is sophisticated enough too be able to visually recognise the bolts, determine their position to superimpose it on the display and knows how much torque to apply to it....why can't it do it itself?
Reading the link I sent you makes it seem like their encryption has gone through revisions and current stuff is looking difficult to crack...
Regardless, if that type of crazy encryption can people hackers at bay for 5 years, that's great considering most consoles have a lifetime of 5 years.
Something that isn't as effective but worked well is the 'Suicide' function in some arcade game boards.
Here is a description of what it is Basically, the decryption key is stored in a battery backed up RAM. If you toy with the board(trying to dump the rom and whatnot), The key gets lost and the board becomes unusable.
I should'nt feed the troll, but here goes:
1)Making it upgradable would increase cost, they wanted the cheapest box for the performance they could make (sockets cost money)
2)If you don't like the idea of not being able to write your own code for it, then don't buy it.
3)puts their logo on the front...in that case is Dell also evil?
4)If you even try to open this crippled PC, your warranty is void....why does microsoft have to warranty actions on the XBOX that it's not designed for? That's like me saying that AMD should still warranty my processors even if I'm running them out of spec
5)...you are breaking the law. Despite what the spindoctors say, as long as you aren't hacking your xbox to play copied games, they can't touch you if your putting your own software on there (that said, if a side effect of your little hack causes someone to be able to play burned games, then theyre gonna come after you (which sucks for fair use...).
6)The scariest part? Is that in 10 years, we wont be talking about a console. This is the future of the PC.That is the scary part though. Even though 'the powers that be' keep claiming that people will be able to run unsigned content on TCPA hardware. I can't imagine that it would 'accidentally' cripple things like linux and BSD that hurt the bottom line