If you want something really nice, of course, you're going to have to throw down a couple hundred more, just for the body, but any one of those would be fine for a beginner.
As for the Gimp vs. Photoshop, I have to admit that Photoshop is the only reason I even own Windows. I'll use the Gimp for simple stuff, like resize and crop, but if I want to do color balancing, editing, mix up RGB channels for B&W improvements (if you add the channel mixer to your normal workflow on a desaturated digital photo, you can come fairly close to the quality of film), I'll use Photoshop CS2: Pirated Edition.
Mainstream Linux apps. The killers are office and games, then accounting, then graphics. Open Office is quaint, but users still want MS. If the new commercial Linux Desktop seriously competes with MS, MS will start an Office Linux version. AND, game developers will create games for it that don't suck.
I just went through this with a friend, a low-income single mom with three kids. She wants a computer, and she wants her kids to have one, but she doesn't have a lot of cash. There are three raggedy old machines, plus a reasonable laptop. I can put together 2 decent machines from the raggedy three, network them together, install tons of games, and get them set, but she has to have Quickbooks and Office. HAS to have for work she does on the side.
I got her Open Office for Windows, and that she can handle, even with the interface changes, but she can't seem to deal with the interface changes to switch from Quickbooks to something like GNUCash (or one of the other ones). As a result, we can't install Linux on the one machine that has Quickbooks, which is the only machine that's even half way decent. (I can set the other machine up with Linux -- I put edubuntu on it, but I'm going to replace it with Fedora and install every game and drawing program, plus dictionaries or whatnot, for the kids), but we can't do anything with the machine she wants to use, because Quickbooks is already installed, and she doesn't have the CD for it (borrowed, installed, returned).
There are just a few applications that people NEED. Office is one. They can use OOo, but only if they can handle learning a new interface. Exchange email they need, but that's covered well enough with Evolution, but only if they can handle the new interface. Quickbooks in one, and they can't handle the new interface. I guess Quicken is also one, and a few others. Without support for those, or viable alternatives, so many people can't make the swith, even though it would be so much better for them.
It's a real shame, too, because I could get that old machine running reasonably well if I could get Windows off of it. Those must-have applications need good, shiny, sellable alternatives in order for people to be able to adapt to Linux. It would be really great for people like my friend, but only if they can replace their critical applications.
Yeah, it may be funny, but the very fact that this event occurred gives him media coverage. Probably unintended side effect, but well deserved! I, for one, had never heard of the Killacycle. This is seriously cool stuff !
Plus, when looking for a crotchrocket bike, you want to be sure it's fast enough to kill you with little difficulty. Otherwise, it's no fun. I think he just uped his stock a few points. "Wow. That thing's bad-ass. You could die on that! . . . Where do I get one?"
In his speeches leading up to the war, he never claimed that Iraq was behind 9/11; this is just a myth promoted by various factions that want to see the country fail.
A: You're using a logical falacy in your argument. You've invented and attributed a negative characteristic, "want to see the country fail", to anyone who disagrees with you.
B: He didn't say it directly, but he used manipulative and deceptive language to imply it, ie. The terrorists attacted us on 9-11. Saddam funds the terrorists.
Without specifying that he's talking about two different groups of the terrorists -- one that attacked us, and a completely different set that Saddam funds -- he's essentially lying. There's no way those speeches go through the sort of checks that they do and no one noticed the duplicity in them. It was clearly a coordinated, continuous and intentional attempt to disinform the population when he kept tying "the terrorists" and "9-11" to Hussein in pre-war speeches.
Think about how much that light sabre will be worth when it gets back. Starwars fans pay pretty good bucks for props, and space junkies pay enormous sums for space artifacts. Once Luke's original trusty lightsabre is also a space artifact, it'll be damned near priceless.
I believe the point of the 3rd party motion is to force AOL and KaZaA to enter the fight against the RIAA. The RIAA has a massive legal armada they can use against a largely-defenseless individual, but so does AOL (and probably KaZaA), so it will drive up the time & cost of the RIAA's campaign.
If everyone did this, it might put an end to the RIAA's battle plan of suing everyone on Earth.
It was called vi. [ctl]s isn't much more efficient than [esc]:s
I like the idea of making as many commands as possible doable with the keyboard, but half the point to a gui is the ability to use the mouse instead of having to memorize a bunch of cryptic commands. Just keep the most used commands accessible by keyboard, and leave the rest to be hit with the mouse. Yeah, mice are kind of crappy for an input device, but redesigning the mouse will work better than redesigning the interface. The reason vi and emacs and other command-based editors aren't in common use outside of the geek world is because no one wants to do that except geeks.
What would this mean for the authors of FS who can't afford to buy the exploit ?
Could this create a divide between developers/companies that can afford to buy up exploits and those that can't ?
It would have to be factored into costs by companies like Red Hat, or whoever is profiting from the free software, who would have to buy the exploit for their own business needs, and then release the patch code as per the GPL. They would then have to pass the cost onto their customers, while smaller vendors could pick the patch up for free. I would expect a consortium to form if it became a problem. (Free Software people always seem to form consortiums on things -- 'We're out of coffee . . . let's form a coffee consortium!').
Anyway, that would be a disadvantage to any free software vendor, but no more so than to any closed-source software vendor.
I like the idea. I think, if it takes off, it will dramatically increase the number of people willing to invest time into finding flaws for reasons other than to show it off to their l33t IRC buddies or sell them to the wrong people. I know I don't go out of my way looking for these things specifically because the only reward is internet notoriety, which I have no use for. Now, if you gimme cash, instead -- and through a legitimate source that won't put me at odds with the FBI -- I might be more interested. More eyes on the prize will probably translate to more flaws found more quickly by people willing to release them to the vendors.
Same here. I just got one of the older G5 Powerbooks a few months ago (indefinate loaner from work), and it'll do just fine until later revisions of the software. I'm looking forward to replacing my Windows desktop with a PowerMac or iMac, though. (Windows + cygwin + Apache + WarFTP did what I needed, but OS X does it much, much better).
In short, since the container doesn't have any flaws or any major points of differing temperature, no steam bubbles ever form, so the water never begins to roll. Instead, it just sits there absorbing heat until you finally take it out and drop a spoonfull of instant coffe or something in it, and it explodes and burns your face off.
If he can get someone who will vote the way Bush wants, Bush can likely get the whole SCOTUS weight on his side.
Yes, and the problem is that one small group of people, the party leadership for the GOP, will control both houses of Congress, the Executive Office, and the Supreme court. They will be able to pass just about any law they want, sign it, and uphold it in court.
> They don't call theaters "The Big Screen" for nothing.
There are a couple of reasons I like to go to the theatre. One is for the size of the screen and because they have better sound than I do. That only applies to sci-fi with really good effects, though. Matrix/StarWars were both must-see-in-the-theatre for me.
Also, for dates when living with a woman. After a few years of living together, finding something to go on a date for gets more difficult. Going to a movie together then out for dinner is great at that point. It's not super duper romantic, or anything, but it's better than splitting a six pack and throwing in a DVD.
Cheap matinees can be fun just for the ambiance of the theatre. The giant room almost all to yourself, just a couple of other couples. That and the nasty popcorn.
Outside of those special occasions, I almost always wait for the DVD. For the average movie that you want to watch just for the hell of it, or with some friends over and you want to be able to talk and make jokes and drink beer, or some old film you just want to watch again, home is way better.
If I ever buy a house, which I may do soon, I'll put a home theater in it. A second room with a big screen TV with digital surround sound adn comfy chairs and ashtray stands and stuff, but I'll still want to go to the movies from time to time. Date with the girlfriend or a sci-fi that you want to get the full effect of, and just to have the whole event of going out to the movies.
The article was awful for being kind of sloppy, but De Raadt was feeding it. It's an article composed of generalizations about caricatures of steriotypes, which is something like sloppy*10^3.
"Linux people do what they do because they hate Microsoft. We do what we do because we love Unix"
Could have just as easily been . ..
"Linux people do what they do because they hate Microsoft. We do what we do because we hate Linux"
"BSD guys are a lot like Linux guys, except they have kissed girls."
Would have been as meaningful had it been . ..
"BSD guys are a lot like Linux guys, except they have kissed each other."
I mean, no, linux isn't perfect, but that's not news. It's also not news that some people in the BSD community flame people in the Linux community, and vice versa, and they're usually silly flames. I don't mind silly flames so much on/., but silly flames in Forbes is pathetic.
I bet they just do what they do because they hate Slashdot.;)
> Well, according to their math, every copy pirated is a sale lost, so they've "lost" trillions of dollars.
Yes, and that's silly. They make the assumption that increases in price don't affect demand. Then again, when you're talking about monopolies, they tend to think that way.
If the cost of the average CD went from $0.00 over a P2P network to $20.00 at the local mall, I wouldnt' buy the average CD. They don't seem to grasp the concept that demand and price have a generally inverse relationship.
Oddly, 4 of the 5 sponsors are Democrats. I didn't expect to see that. At least not now, when there's a Republican in office (maybe six years ago, when a Democrat was).
Odd list. The obvious are the women. It's a list of sex appeal: Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez, Shakira, Anna Kournikova, Paris Hilton, and Pamela Anderson.
Then men: Michael Jackson, Bill Clinton,
I can see them being sexy. I mean, from a hetro-male point of view, women seem to dig them both.
Then Bill Gates. Okay, not sexy, but rich beyond reality, which is sexy in it's own way.
Then Osama Bin Laden? Dirty, insane, psychopathing mass murderers don't have a wide ranging sex appeal. It just seems an odd entry in that list.
I can only guess, but I would suppose they could try to make a profit by charging other e-commerce companies for using automated billing, or they want to try to sell the patent, or they want to wedge their way into being some kind of front end order processing provider for ecomerce shops.
Then again, they did try to sue B&N dot com for using something similar, so maybe the whole plan is just to harass competitiors.
Yes, there are. I'm looking forward to the idea of Microsoft having viable competetion from several vendors for desktop and workstation PCs. When Linux started making inroads into the desktop, albeit small ones, Microsoft released it's first relatively stable OS, XP, shortly thereafter. It's amazing what a little bit of competition will do for your average behemoth.
The competition will do them a world of good, and that will do us all a world of good. We could potentially see some extreme innovation and advancement in the PC world over the next five years since it will (hopefully) become more and more competative as alternate OS's become more of a viable option to the common enduser.
There are a lot of people who made poor decisions in the housing boom. The boom itself was good, but the people taking equity loans that they won't be able to afford isn't good.
Personally, I wish I had bought five years ago. My landlord offered me this place for 90 grand, and these units are selling for 300 now.
Of course, at the time I was broke, because all my dot com stock options had tanked.:(
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A buddy of mine used to always start trying to sell them on Amway. He wasn't actually into Amway, but he'd do it for kicks, and he'd really work his ass off to try to get them to consider it.
For a while when I first started getting porn spam, I would occasionally pick one at random, then go to the web site and find the "email us if you have problems" link, then run a little script to send them their spam back a couple of thousand times to fill their mailbox so they couldn't get real requests for help signing up. It was petty and juvinile, but somehow very satisfying.
Agreed. The online relationship thing doesn't work. You can't communicate well in an IM or message board. Sure, for things like talking about *nix and telling jokes it's fine, but for real communication it sucks. Plus, you can't have a relationship with someone who you never get hug or kiss or bang. You have to look where people with similar interests hang out, but 'online' isn't it.
School is a good place if you can tolerate school.
As referenced in the alt.tech-support.recovery FAQ (found at http://www.angry.net/atsr/), it was Demon internet. A user called insisting that he was working with Bob, but no one there was named Bob. The customer is always right, though, so they started jokeingly calling each other Bob. It blew out of proportion, then spread to a.t-s.r, and now all support personal can be referred to as Bob.
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If you want something really nice, of course, you're going to have to throw down a couple hundred more, just for the body, but any one of those would be fine for a beginner.
As for the Gimp vs. Photoshop, I have to admit that Photoshop is the only reason I even own Windows. I'll use the Gimp for simple stuff, like resize and crop, but if I want to do color balancing, editing, mix up RGB channels for B&W improvements (if you add the channel mixer to your normal workflow on a desaturated digital photo, you can come fairly close to the quality of film), I'll use Photoshop CS2: Pirated Edition.
>What is a low income anybody doing bothering with any Intuit product?
Um . . .
>(borrowed, installed, returned).
That's a fancy way of saying "pirated".
I just went through this with a friend, a low-income single mom with three kids. She wants a computer, and she wants her kids to have one, but she doesn't have a lot of cash. There are three raggedy old machines, plus a reasonable laptop. I can put together 2 decent machines from the raggedy three, network them together, install tons of games, and get them set, but she has to have Quickbooks and Office. HAS to have for work she does on the side.
I got her Open Office for Windows, and that she can handle, even with the interface changes, but she can't seem to deal with the interface changes to switch from Quickbooks to something like GNUCash (or one of the other ones). As a result, we can't install Linux on the one machine that has Quickbooks, which is the only machine that's even half way decent. (I can set the other machine up with Linux -- I put edubuntu on it, but I'm going to replace it with Fedora and install every game and drawing program, plus dictionaries or whatnot, for the kids), but we can't do anything with the machine she wants to use, because Quickbooks is already installed, and she doesn't have the CD for it (borrowed, installed, returned).
There are just a few applications that people NEED. Office is one. They can use OOo, but only if they can handle learning a new interface. Exchange email they need, but that's covered well enough with Evolution, but only if they can handle the new interface. Quickbooks in one, and they can't handle the new interface. I guess Quicken is also one, and a few others. Without support for those, or viable alternatives, so many people can't make the swith, even though it would be so much better for them.
It's a real shame, too, because I could get that old machine running reasonably well if I could get Windows off of it. Those must-have applications need good, shiny, sellable alternatives in order for people to be able to adapt to Linux. It would be really great for people like my friend, but only if they can replace their critical applications.
Plus, when looking for a crotchrocket bike, you want to be sure it's fast enough to kill you with little difficulty. Otherwise, it's no fun. I think he just uped his stock a few points. "Wow. That thing's bad-ass. You could die on that! . . . Where do I get one?"
A: You're using a logical falacy in your argument. You've invented and attributed a negative characteristic, "want to see the country fail", to anyone who disagrees with you.
B: He didn't say it directly, but he used manipulative and deceptive language to imply it, ie. The terrorists attacted us on 9-11. Saddam funds the terrorists.
Without specifying that he's talking about two different groups of the terrorists -- one that attacked us, and a completely different set that Saddam funds -- he's essentially lying. There's no way those speeches go through the sort of checks that they do and no one noticed the duplicity in them. It was clearly a coordinated, continuous and intentional attempt to disinform the population when he kept tying "the terrorists" and "9-11" to Hussein in pre-war speeches.
Think about how much that light sabre will be worth when it gets back. Starwars fans pay pretty good bucks for props, and space junkies pay enormous sums for space artifacts. Once Luke's original trusty lightsabre is also a space artifact, it'll be damned near priceless.
I believe the point of the 3rd party motion is to force AOL and KaZaA to enter the fight against the RIAA. The RIAA has a massive legal armada they can use against a largely-defenseless individual, but so does AOL (and probably KaZaA), so it will drive up the time & cost of the RIAA's campaign.
If everyone did this, it might put an end to the RIAA's battle plan of suing everyone on Earth.
It was called vi. [ctl]s isn't much more efficient than [esc]:s
I like the idea of making as many commands as possible doable with the keyboard, but half the point to a gui is the ability to use the mouse instead of having to memorize a bunch of cryptic commands. Just keep the most used commands accessible by keyboard, and leave the rest to be hit with the mouse. Yeah, mice are kind of crappy for an input device, but redesigning the mouse will work better than redesigning the interface. The reason vi and emacs and other command-based editors aren't in common use outside of the geek world is because no one wants to do that except geeks.
Anyway, that would be a disadvantage to any free software vendor, but no more so than to any closed-source software vendor.
I like the idea. I think, if it takes off, it will dramatically increase the number of people willing to invest time into finding flaws for reasons other than to show it off to their l33t IRC buddies or sell them to the wrong people. I know I don't go out of my way looking for these things specifically because the only reward is internet notoriety, which I have no use for. Now, if you gimme cash, instead -- and through a legitimate source that won't put me at odds with the FBI -- I might be more interested. More eyes on the prize will probably translate to more flaws found more quickly by people willing to release them to the vendors.
. . . or so I'd think.
Depends on how much I've had to drink . . .
Yes, that's what I meant. I guess that was like eating a hamburger and saying, "Man, this is a good steak." (It's still a nice laptop ;)
Same here. I just got one of the older G5 Powerbooks a few months ago (indefinate loaner from work), and it'll do just fine until later revisions of the software. I'm looking forward to replacing my Windows desktop with a PowerMac or iMac, though. (Windows + cygwin + Apache + WarFTP did what I needed, but OS X does it much, much better).
Kind of similar to boiling point and it's tragic relationship with Pyrex measuring cups and microwaves. http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/factsheets/575.asp
In short, since the container doesn't have any flaws or any major points of differing temperature, no steam bubbles ever form, so the water never begins to roll. Instead, it just sits there absorbing heat until you finally take it out and drop a spoonfull of instant coffe or something in it, and it explodes and burns your face off.
Yes, and the problem is that one small group of people, the party leadership for the GOP, will control both houses of Congress, the Executive Office, and the Supreme court. They will be able to pass just about any law they want, sign it, and uphold it in court.
That's exceptionally dangerous.
> They don't call theaters "The Big Screen" for nothing.
There are a couple of reasons I like to go to the theatre. One is for the size of the screen and because they have better sound than I do. That only applies to sci-fi with really good effects, though. Matrix/StarWars were both must-see-in-the-theatre for me.
Also, for dates when living with a woman. After a few years of living together, finding something to go on a date for gets more difficult. Going to a movie together then out for dinner is great at that point. It's not super duper romantic, or anything, but it's better than splitting a six pack and throwing in a DVD.
Cheap matinees can be fun just for the ambiance of the theatre. The giant room almost all to yourself, just a couple of other couples. That and the nasty popcorn.
Outside of those special occasions, I almost always wait for the DVD. For the average movie that you want to watch just for the hell of it, or with some friends over and you want to be able to talk and make jokes and drink beer, or some old film you just want to watch again, home is way better.
If I ever buy a house, which I may do soon, I'll put a home theater in it. A second room with a big screen TV with digital surround sound adn comfy chairs and ashtray stands and stuff, but I'll still want to go to the movies from time to time. Date with the girlfriend or a sci-fi that you want to get the full effect of, and just to have the whole event of going out to the movies.
The article was awful for being kind of sloppy, but De Raadt was feeding it. It's an article composed of generalizations about caricatures of steriotypes, which is something like sloppy*10^3.
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/., but silly flames in Forbes is pathetic.
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"Linux people do what they do because they hate Microsoft. We do what we do because we love Unix"
Could have just as easily been . .
"Linux people do what they do because they hate Microsoft. We do what we do because we hate Linux"
"BSD guys are a lot like Linux guys, except they have kissed girls."
Would have been as meaningful had it been . .
"BSD guys are a lot like Linux guys, except they have kissed each other."
I mean, no, linux isn't perfect, but that's not news. It's also not news that some people in the BSD community flame people in the Linux community, and vice versa, and they're usually silly flames. I don't mind silly flames so much on
I bet they just do what they do because they hate Slashdot.
> Well, according to their math, every copy pirated is a sale lost, so they've "lost" trillions of dollars.
Yes, and that's silly. They make the assumption that increases in price don't affect demand. Then again, when you're talking about monopolies, they tend to think that way.
If the cost of the average CD went from $0.00 over a P2P network to $20.00 at the local mall, I wouldnt' buy the average CD. They don't seem to grasp the concept that demand and price have a generally inverse relationship.
> Read the summary for this proposed bill.
Oddly, 4 of the 5 sponsors are Democrats. I didn't expect to see that. At least not now, when there's a Republican in office (maybe six years ago, when a Democrat was).
Odd list. The obvious are the women. It's a list of sex appeal: Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez, Shakira, Anna Kournikova, Paris Hilton, and Pamela Anderson.
Then men: Michael Jackson, Bill Clinton,
I can see them being sexy. I mean, from a hetro-male point of view, women seem to dig them both.
Then Bill Gates. Okay, not sexy, but rich beyond reality, which is sexy in it's own way.
Then Osama Bin Laden? Dirty, insane, psychopathing mass murderers don't have a wide ranging sex appeal. It just seems an odd entry in that list.
> c) where's the gain?
I can only guess, but I would suppose they could try to make a profit by charging other e-commerce companies for using automated billing, or they want to try to sell the patent, or they want to wedge their way into being some kind of front end order processing provider for ecomerce shops.
Then again, they did try to sue B&N dot com for using something similar, so maybe the whole plan is just to harass competitiors.
Yes, there are. I'm looking forward to the idea of Microsoft having viable competetion from several vendors for desktop and workstation PCs. When Linux started making inroads into the desktop, albeit small ones, Microsoft released it's first relatively stable OS, XP, shortly thereafter. It's amazing what a little bit of competition will do for your average behemoth.
The competition will do them a world of good, and that will do us all a world of good. We could potentially see some extreme innovation and advancement in the PC world over the next five years since it will (hopefully) become more and more competative as alternate OS's become more of a viable option to the common enduser.
There are a lot of people who made poor decisions in the housing boom. The boom itself was good, but the people taking equity loans that they won't be able to afford isn't good.
:(
Personally, I wish I had bought five years ago. My landlord offered me this place for 90 grand, and these units are selling for 300 now.
Of course, at the time I was broke, because all my dot com stock options had tanked.
A buddy of mine used to always start trying to sell them on Amway. He wasn't actually into Amway, but he'd do it for kicks, and he'd really work his ass off to try to get them to consider it.
For a while when I first started getting porn spam, I would occasionally pick one at random, then go to the web site and find the "email us if you have problems" link, then run a little script to send them their spam back a couple of thousand times to fill their mailbox so they couldn't get real requests for help signing up. It was petty and juvinile, but somehow very satisfying.
Agreed. The online relationship thing doesn't work. You can't communicate well in an IM or message board. Sure, for things like talking about *nix and telling jokes it's fine, but for real communication it sucks. Plus, you can't have a relationship with someone who you never get hug or kiss or bang. You have to look where people with similar interests hang out, but 'online' isn't it.
School is a good place if you can tolerate school.
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As referenced in the alt.tech-support.recovery FAQ (found at http://www.angry.net/atsr/), it was Demon internet. A user called insisting that he was working with Bob, but no one there was named Bob. The customer is always right, though, so they started jokeingly calling each other Bob. It blew out of proportion, then spread to a.t-s.r, and now all support personal can be referred to as Bob.
Eric, ex-Bob.