>But most importantly of all (I just COULDNT resist) -- I wonder what a beowolf cluster of these would do for Seti@home?
No one will ever know, but can we expect to start getting a new "COMPLETELY RENEWED, UPGRADED, WITH ALL THE LATEST FEATURES AND BRAND NEW FUNCTIONALITY - PLUS 7,000,000,000 FREE HOURS (in your first month), coppies of RedHat 5.1?
> If you go in there thinking only of two candidates, Bush and Gore,
Then you weren't participating in democracy anyway.
I have a very hard time thinking that "but they weren't paying attention to what they were doing in the poll booth" is a valid arguement that their vote should be more signifigant than anyone elses.
The Keybowl(TM) is made of two domes upon which the hands comfortably rest. One of the domes is called a "selector dome" and is used to activate the other dome,
. . .
At first glance, I thought it said "key bowel". The thought of reaching up there and doing all that twisting and turning didn't sound so "effortless".
In several smaller countries, they have been training police and 'accompanying' them on raids. Notably Singapore and Mexico, but at least one other, whos' name escapes me.
Eventually we will. Some states (I can't name one) have signs like "SPEED LIMIT 55mph/88kph". I've shot at gun ranges with Yards and Meters marked. Most auto mechanics have both SAE and Metric tools. I think it's just a matter of people getting used to it. It would be a nightmare if we switched all at once. "I swear officer, I was only going 55 terrabytes, it must have been the car in front of me".
As the GPL hasn't had a chance to be tested in court, it may yet fail to hold water. Wouldn't it be a good thing if someone were to violate the GPL so they could be sued to have a legal precident to go by? It seems like "If the GPL is going to fail in court, it would be better if it happened before any more code falls under it". What do you think?
>Unfortunately, with AOL, this is not true (and >I'm not just talking out of my ass here -- >another unfortunate thing is that I worked for >AOL as a systems administrator for a few years). >They've got some built-in scripting
No, they have no built in scripting. Load up a copy of aol and try it. They have limited html, but that's all. Aol mail cannot give you a virus from opening an email. Read the article, it's stated there.
This sounds lame, but I've decompiled a couple of those out of curriosity. It seems they just send a wm_gettext() type of WinAPI command to the "AOL_EDIT" control, or something along those lines. (It's been a while).
Also, I looked at a log of all system messages trapped by Spy++ (comes with ms visual c++ 5) and aol & that free isp both send the password as plain text.
And, as has been pointed out, they have to download and execute the trojan to get it. Not just from reading the mail.
I'd definately do it without arguement, but only after getting a guarentee that there would be a *very* outgoing campaign to inform the employees that it _will_ be happening. As long as they know before they mail, and they're using the companies network, it's not a moral issue as far as I'm concerned. If it's private it's personal, and isn't something that should be using corporate computing resources. Just My 2 Cents. Eric
Whenever people decide we need more taxes, or fewer freedoms, they like to justify it by crying about "the children" and the minorities. That's all this is. We need a new tax to run free internet connections to rural and innercity houses. The whole thing about throwing race in there was to distract the issue. If people want to buy a t.v. instead of a computer, that's their choice. But I can't even buy my self a new machine, I don't want to buy someone else one (particularly not if he makes as much money as I do). This whole 'cry for the children and minorities while I try to liberate you of a bit more of your pay-check or freedoms' thing is growing old. If this sentiment keeps up, just wait till we get new Gore Tax's that are actually voted and passed by congress.
Redhat is doing a good thing to bring linux to 'normal' people's desktops. (I personally prefer any old linux, my self, but will settle for any other linux if I have to).
I'll also be sad and nostalgic in 3 years when all the rich old ladies in california sell their imacs for iLinux machines, but I can still have my own setup how ever I want it.
It would be kind of cool if there were several distributions that all 'made it'. Better to have several linux's than 1 windos. Hell, make your own distribution, sooner or later I'll try it.
> if this spreads much farther, we're in big > trouble - just think of > what the/. effect could do to lines at > the DMV..
Hahahaha. Yeah, right./. is great at slowing remote things down, but NO BODDY can top the DMV. Even/. coulnd't make the DMV slower./. is of the Earth - powered by nerd-geeks, but the DMV has supernatural powers culled from their friends in the 7th circle of hell.
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I guess no one else here works with computers on a frequesnt basis, but I do.
Guess what? They crash. That's what they do. I know that this supprises you, but that's ok. Just trust me. That's why I make the big bucks.
If you understand computers, and you understand how important the vote is. You will never mix the twain. Not for a LONG, LONG time, anyway.
Just think before you react, ok?
Thanks,
Eric
>But most importantly of all (I just COULDNT resist) -- I wonder what a beowolf cluster of these would do for Seti@home?
No one will ever know, but can we expect to start getting a new "COMPLETELY RENEWED, UPGRADED, WITH ALL THE LATEST FEATURES AND BRAND NEW FUNCTIONALITY - PLUS 7,000,000,000 FREE HOURS (in your first month), coppies of RedHat 5.1?
Just currious
E
> If you go in there thinking only of two candidates, Bush and Gore,
Then you weren't participating in democracy anyway.
I have a very hard time thinking that "but they weren't paying attention to what they were doing in the poll booth" is a valid arguement that their vote should be more signifigant than anyone elses.
Eric
The Keybowl(TM) is made of two domes upon which the hands comfortably rest. One of the domes is called a "selector dome" and is used to activate the other dome,
. . .
At first glance, I thought it said "key bowel". The thought of reaching up there and doing all that twisting and turning didn't sound so "effortless".
E
In several smaller countries, they have been training police and 'accompanying' them on raids. Notably Singapore and Mexico, but at least one other, whos' name escapes me.
Eric
> The other candidates would come in at 269 and 268.
In this case, the House of Reps would elect the president, likely on partisan terms.
(This hasn't ever happened, but it is what would happen if neither got 270).
Eric
Eventually we will. Some states (I can't name one) have signs like "SPEED LIMIT 55mph/88kph". I've shot at gun ranges with Yards and Meters marked. Most auto mechanics have both SAE and Metric tools. I think it's just a matter of people getting used to it. It would be a nightmare if we switched all at once. "I swear officer, I was only going 55 terrabytes, it must have been the car in front of me".
Eric
As the GPL hasn't had a chance to be tested in court, it may yet fail to hold water. Wouldn't it be a good thing if someone were to violate the GPL so they could be sued to have a legal precident to go by? It seems like "If the GPL is going to fail in court, it would be better if it happened before any more code falls under it". What do you think?
>Unfortunately, with AOL, this is not true (and >I'm not just talking out of my ass here -- >another unfortunate thing is that I worked for >AOL as a systems administrator for a few years). >They've got some built-in scripting
No, they have no built in scripting. Load up a copy of aol and try it. They have limited html, but that's all. Aol mail cannot give you a virus from opening an email. Read the article, it's stated there.
Eric
This sounds lame, but I've decompiled a couple of those out of curriosity. It seems they just send a wm_gettext() type of WinAPI command to the "AOL_EDIT" control, or something along those lines. (It's been a while).
Also, I looked at a log of all system messages trapped by Spy++ (comes with ms visual c++ 5) and aol & that free isp both send the password as plain text.
And, as has been pointed out, they have to download and execute the trojan to get it. Not just from reading the mail.
E
I'd definately do it without arguement, but only after getting a guarentee that there would be a *very* outgoing campaign to inform the employees that it _will_ be happening. As long as they know before they mail, and they're using the companies network, it's not a moral issue as far as I'm concerned. If it's private it's personal, and isn't something that should be using corporate computing resources.
Just My 2 Cents.
Eric
Too true. I've had a couple of mailboxes suffer this. They start getting so much spam that they're not worth using. That's what I like about hotmail.
Whenever people decide we need more taxes, or fewer freedoms, they like to justify it by crying about "the children" and the minorities. That's all this is. We need a new tax to run free internet connections to rural and innercity houses. The whole thing about throwing race in there was to distract the issue. If people want to buy a t.v. instead of a computer, that's their choice. But I can't even buy my self a new machine, I don't want to buy someone else one (particularly not if he makes as much money as I do). This whole 'cry for the children and minorities while I try to liberate you of a bit more of your pay-check or freedoms' thing is growing old. If this sentiment keeps up, just wait till we get new Gore Tax's that are actually voted and passed by congress.
Redhat is doing a good thing to bring linux to 'normal' people's desktops. (I personally prefer any old linux, my self, but will settle for any other linux if I have to).
I'll also be sad and nostalgic in 3 years when all the rich old ladies in california sell their imacs for iLinux machines, but I can still have my own setup how ever I want it.
It would be kind of cool if there were several distributions that all 'made it'. Better to have several linux's than 1 windos. Hell, make your own distribution, sooner or later I'll try it.
That's my 1.9 cents worth.
> if this spreads much farther, we're in big /. effect could do to lines at
/. is great at slowing remote things down, but NO BODDY can top the DMV. Even /. coulnd't make the DMV slower. /. is of the Earth - powered by nerd-geeks, but the DMV has supernatural powers culled from their friends in the 7th circle of hell.
> trouble - just think of
> what the
> the DMV..
Hahahaha. Yeah, right.
Just my 1.9 cents worth.
E