It is Gecko, not Gheko, and there is plenty of room for two, three, maybe even four major engines. Webkit is an excellent engine, and in many ways is better than Gecko, but in other ways Gecko is better. And there is certainly plenty of life left in Gecko. Already Gecko 1.9.x is very different from 1.0. Many more changes are planned even before 2.0, and 2.0 should be very nice indeed.
>it is true that jemalloc(the memory allocator) of firefox is quite broken under linux really? I have 0 problems with memory here. I always figured it was the more numerous windows uses where making all the noise about memory problems. When I was a more extensive windows user, I never had any really bad memory problems - but that was in the Mozilla 1.0 - 1.7 era, and I don't know that it used jemalloc back then.
>Extensions were not added to Firefox until version 2.0. That sounds totally wrong to me. FF isn't my main browser now, and back then I hardly even touched it, but it just sounds wrong. I feel like Mozilla had extensions by the time it was 1.0... maybe I misremember though...
>FF is lagging behind Gee, who would've thunk, each rev is less usable then the last, tht FF is falling behind. I am more of a Mozilla (SeaMonkey) fan, but FF seems to be getting better with each release (even if the combined stop/reload button is a mistake). The next release may be the first in which the UI gets worse, as they have plans to remove the status bar among other things.
>Like the bookmarks editor. Like the loss of control of privacy functions those work fine for me. Mozilla still offers more direct access, but FF is ok
>Ever try to find an old release of FF on the FF website yes, on occasion. I can quickly and easily find any release or nightly.
>Failure to give add on developers a stable platform, you mean xulrunner? yeah, that's unfortunate.
>failure to give users a way to isolate bad addons not sure what this means. I can disable any addon, any that are "incompatible" with the current FF version are disabled by default, and you can use safe mode or a new profile if an addon is causing problems on start up.
Sorry, I wouldn't normally respond to an apparent troll post, but since someone saw fit to mod it up to 4...
>seen it on dozens of different computers and platforms, and never met a single computer with FF that *didn't* reproduce the problem. Odd, but although I have seen that behavior (or a lesser version), I have seen more computers that don't have it. I have never had it on my main system, and I use a *lot* of tabs. I have had pauses in responsiveness, but they are clearly cases of hitting the swap, another process grabbing a lot of CPU, etc.
>ATI decided my r300-based card was legacy and discontinued it via the closed-sources drivers. I'm screwed(thankfully the open source drivers are ok but nowhere near as fast).
ATI/AMD abandoned those cards not only because they where old, but also specifically because the OSS drivers for them were complete, if not that fast. They wouldn't have dropped them otherwise.
Everything I have seen lists the Windows phone ecosystem at a few thousand, Android at ~50,000 last I heard and iPhone well over 100,000. Of course that says nothing about quality, but that is a huge and important difference in the overall health of the platform.
Here in the US our current code base was started over 200 years ago (with many ideas inherited or even copy and pasted from earlier projects). There has never been a major refactoring (and not much in the way minor refactors either), and most of the code was written by people with less sense of structure and architecture than your average VB 6 coder. Yeah, it needs refactoring.
Is jello regional like Xerox? Because here in the Northwest most people use "Xerox" only as a proper noun.
And I don't know about elsewhere, but here people only use "jello" for gelatin if you make it from a powder, and eat it by itself, regardless of brand. If solid gelatin is premade and in a jar and you put it on bread or something, it is always "jelly".
Anyone know if they fixed the massive flaws from last year that allowed 4chan to precisely control the top 21 entries to spell "marblecake also the game"?
>The Ogg file format really sucks for streaming over the internet. No, it is rather good for streaming. It is actually a bit weaker for downloaded or progressive downloaded (youtube-style) content, but not horrible even there.
>It's only real feature is the fact it is open source and doesn't require a license. It may not be optimal, but it is good enough, and so the fact that it is Free is enough.
>And I really, really hope they won't go for the process per tab like planned. It takes a lot of extra memory for little benefit (IMO).
I agree on that. I love OOPP, but not per-tab processes
It is Gecko, not Gheko, and there is plenty of room for two, three, maybe even four major engines. Webkit is an excellent engine, and in many ways is better than Gecko, but in other ways Gecko is better. And there is certainly plenty of life left in Gecko. Already Gecko 1.9.x is very different from 1.0. Many more changes are planned even before 2.0, and 2.0 should be very nice indeed.
>it is true that jemalloc(the memory allocator) of firefox is quite broken under linux
really? I have 0 problems with memory here. I always figured it was the more numerous windows uses where making all the noise about memory problems. When I was a more extensive windows user, I never had any really bad memory problems - but that was in the Mozilla 1.0 - 1.7 era, and I don't know that it used jemalloc back then.
>Extensions were not added to Firefox until version 2.0.
That sounds totally wrong to me. FF isn't my main browser now, and back then I hardly even touched it, but it just sounds wrong.
I feel like Mozilla had extensions by the time it was 1.0... maybe I misremember though...
>FF is lagging behind Gee, who would've thunk, each rev is less usable then the last, tht FF is falling behind.
I am more of a Mozilla (SeaMonkey) fan, but FF seems to be getting better with each release (even if the combined stop/reload button is a mistake). The next release may be the first in which the UI gets worse, as they have plans to remove the status bar among other things.
>Like the bookmarks editor. Like the loss of control of privacy functions
those work fine for me. Mozilla still offers more direct access, but FF is ok
>Ever try to find an old release of FF on the FF website
yes, on occasion. I can quickly and easily find any release or nightly.
>Failure to give add on developers a stable platform,
you mean xulrunner? yeah, that's unfortunate.
>failure to give users a way to isolate bad addons
not sure what this means. I can disable any addon, any that are "incompatible" with the current FF version are disabled by default, and you can use safe mode or a new profile if an addon is causing problems on start up.
Sorry, I wouldn't normally respond to an apparent troll post, but since someone saw fit to mod it up to 4...
>seen it on dozens of different computers and platforms, and never met a single computer with FF that *didn't* reproduce the problem.
Odd, but although I have seen that behavior (or a lesser version), I have seen more computers that don't have it. I have never had it on my main system, and I use a *lot* of tabs. I have had pauses in responsiveness, but they are clearly cases of hitting the swap, another process grabbing a lot of CPU, etc.
>ATI decided my r300-based card was legacy and discontinued it via the closed-sources drivers. I'm screwed(thankfully the open source drivers are ok but nowhere near as fast).
ATI/AMD abandoned those cards not only because they where old, but also specifically because the OSS drivers for them were complete, if not that fast. They wouldn't have dropped them otherwise.
I've been seeing more and more attention focused on KVM and less on Xen. For example, I believe Debian plans to abandon Xen after Squeeze
I see what you're saying now. Could be a useful feature, I suppose.
1) looks fine to me
2) just add restrictions to your search
after:2010/03/01
before:2010/03/01
from:Alice
label:work
has:attachment
etc.
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=7190
Everything I have seen lists the Windows phone ecosystem at a few thousand, Android at ~50,000 last I heard and iPhone well over 100,000. Of course that says nothing about quality, but that is a huge and important difference in the overall health of the platform.
Here in the US our current code base was started over 200 years ago (with many ideas inherited or even copy and pasted from earlier projects). There has never been a major refactoring (and not much in the way minor refactors either), and most of the code was written by people with less sense of structure and architecture than your average VB 6 coder. Yeah, it needs refactoring.
Is jello regional like Xerox? Because here in the Northwest most people use "Xerox" only as a proper noun.
And I don't know about elsewhere, but here people only use "jello" for gelatin if you make it from a powder, and eat it by itself, regardless of brand. If solid gelatin is premade and in a jar and you put it on bread or something, it is always "jelly".
jelly is what you put on toast
It's nice to have dreams
NoScript can already block <video> and <audio> in the same way it blocks Flash, for starters
Only an implementation of a codec can be open source.
Anyone know if they fixed the massive flaws from last year that allowed 4chan to precisely control the top 21 entries to spell "marblecake also the game"?
You can decode other codecs than what the hardware was intended for:
http://www.schleef.org/blog/2009/11/11/theora-on-ti-c64x-dsp-and-omap3/
True, but I doubt Google would do something as pointless as releasing the code, but not making it completely Free.
Since they just started sponsoring some mobile Theora work, I would think they will do at least as much for VP8
>The Ogg file format really sucks for streaming over the internet.
No, it is rather good for streaming. It is actually a bit weaker for downloaded or progressive downloaded (youtube-style) content, but not horrible even there.
>It's only real feature is the fact it is open source and doesn't require a license.
It may not be optimal, but it is good enough, and so the fact that it is Free is enough.
Ogg may indeed be less than ideal, but that article exaggerates it's problems.
It hardly matters if the specs are published, if you can't implement them without paying for patent licenses.
>In the time it takes firefox to load, I've installed chrome, launched it and I'm back on google docs
Something in his FF is very broken, Chrome does indeed launch faster, but FF should take only a second or two to launch.