No, FF was a project started by two guys who wanted a lightweight browser based on Gecko. Unlike the other projects with the same thing in mind (epiphany, k-meleon, galleon, etc) it became very popular, and became the official browser.
This whole subthread is nuts. How is SLASHDOT, of all places, not aware of Mozilla/Firefox/SeaMonkey history? And it isn't even old history!
Mozilla is the original (retroactively called Mozilla Internet Suite) Firefox is the preferred second child SeaMonkey is Mozilla's new name because the Mozilla Foundation doesn't like it any more
1998 Netscape starts on version 5 Netscape decides to go to version 6, writing everything from scratch - the engine was NGLayout, which became Gecko Netscape forms the Mozilla organization to work on this code
1999 Netscape acquisition by AOL finalized
2000 AOL releases Netscape 6.0, based on Mozilla 0.6 code
2002 Mozilla 1.0 released (Gecko and Browser versions are in sync) Netscape 7.0 released, based on Mozilla 1.0.1 Phoenix project starts with the goal of making a lighter weight version of Mozilla, with just a browser
2003 Phoenix becomes the main focus of the Mozilla Foundation Phoenix and Minotaur become Firebird and Thunderbird Mozilla 1.4 released Netscape 7.1 released, based on Mozilla 1.4 Mozilla Firebird 0.6 released, based on Gecko 1.4 AOL creates the non-profit Mozilla Foundation, and turns over all Mozilla-related activities to them.
2004 Mozilla 1.6 released Firebird renamed Firefox, version 0.8 released, based on Gecko 1.6. Thunderbird 0.5 releases. Mozilla 1.7, Firefox 0.9, Thunderbird 0.7 release Firefox 1.0 releases
2005 Netscape 8.0 releases, based on Firefox 1.0 The Mozilla Foundation abandons the Mozilla Internet Suite, focuses solely on Firefox The community adopts Mozilla, and rename it SeaMonkey (historical code name of the Mozilla browsers chrome) at the request of the Mozilla Foundation Firefox 1.5, Gecko 1.8 released
In OLED, the current is run directly into an organic light emitting diode. Whereas FED/SED had an electron gun pointed at each phosphor pixel (more or less). Still, I guess OLED is closer to FED/SED than an LCD.
No, they are great with Linux drivers. 2.6.32 will have r600/r700 KMS (including dri2, ttm/gem) and Mesa 7.6 (due very soon) has r600/r700 3D good enough for compiz. Mesa 7.7 will have the Gallium3D r600g driver (not sure what state it will be in).
AMD/ATI has not said anything about a new arch for r800, so it is probably very similar to r600/r700 (r300/r400/r500 was another series of three that were very close) and adding it to the r600 driver shouldn't take too long/
I watch a fair bit of stuff on youtube - funny clips from various shows, weird Japanese stuff from nico nico douga, Carl Sagan, James Burke, Linux demos, TED...
None of it in full screen, though, and not just because full screen doesn't work well.
>a custom version for gaming which turns down or off features not needed for gaming...gaming needs as many or more "features" as anything non-gaming...
if you want better game performance, look for driver improvements and mesa improvements (including gallium3d).
xinput 2 is here. xkb2 is coming. evdev is here. exa and uxa are here. kms is here for some drivers already. the basics of gallium3d are here, the rest, including drivers, is coming. xcb is here, it just needs to be used more. input and output hotplug and autoconfiguration are here. With all this there is no need to replace X. The basic design is ok and the details have come a long way since xfree86.
The drivers *are* in userland (well there, is enough in the kernel to display basic images and text). KMS means the kernel can change video modes, which allows early boot splash screens with no "blink" transitions when X takes over and allows "bluescreens", that is, the kernel can print error messages to the screen even if X locks up.
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You should probably file a bug on gtk-print instead.
I use SeaMonkey as my main browser, and the only time I have crash problems is during the alpha phase, and even then it usually isn't bad.
Yes, themes has been moved to the add-on manager, just like in firefox.
No, FF was a project started by two guys who wanted a lightweight browser based on Gecko. Unlike the other projects with the same thing in mind (epiphany, k-meleon, galleon, etc) it became very popular, and became the official browser.
This whole subthread is nuts. How is SLASHDOT, of all places, not aware of Mozilla/Firefox/SeaMonkey history? And it isn't even old history!
Mozilla is the original (retroactively called Mozilla Internet Suite)
Firefox is the preferred second child
SeaMonkey is Mozilla's new name because the Mozilla Foundation doesn't like it any more
1998
Netscape starts on version 5
Netscape decides to go to version 6, writing everything from scratch - the engine was NGLayout, which became Gecko
Netscape forms the Mozilla organization to work on this code
1999
Netscape acquisition by AOL finalized
2000
AOL releases Netscape 6.0, based on Mozilla 0.6 code
2002
Mozilla 1.0 released (Gecko and Browser versions are in sync)
Netscape 7.0 released, based on Mozilla 1.0.1
Phoenix project starts with the goal of making a lighter weight version of Mozilla, with just a browser
2003
Phoenix becomes the main focus of the Mozilla Foundation
Phoenix and Minotaur become Firebird and Thunderbird
Mozilla 1.4 released
Netscape 7.1 released, based on Mozilla 1.4
Mozilla Firebird 0.6 released, based on Gecko 1.4
AOL creates the non-profit Mozilla Foundation, and turns over all Mozilla-related activities to them.
2004
Mozilla 1.6 released
Firebird renamed Firefox, version 0.8 released, based on Gecko 1.6. Thunderbird 0.5 releases.
Mozilla 1.7, Firefox 0.9, Thunderbird 0.7 release
Firefox 1.0 releases
2005
Netscape 8.0 releases, based on Firefox 1.0
The Mozilla Foundation abandons the Mozilla Internet Suite, focuses solely on Firefox
The community adopts Mozilla, and rename it SeaMonkey (historical code name of the Mozilla browsers chrome) at the request of the Mozilla Foundation
Firefox 1.5, Gecko 1.8 released
2006
SeaMonkey 1.0 releases, based on Gecko 1.8
I haven't found any email client that is as usable and nice as gmail.
LGPL is 2.1 already:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl-2.1.html
What's the computer equivalent of the "This car protected by Smith & Wesson" bumper sticker?
Maybe this image?
http://www.insidesocal.com/click/openbsd_armed.jpg
rtorrent is where it is at
In OLED, the current is run directly into an organic light emitting diode. Whereas FED/SED had an electron gun pointed at each phosphor pixel (more or less). Still, I guess OLED is closer to FED/SED than an LCD.
Didn't they try that with The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy? It destroyed the universe if I remember correctly.
Mod parent up
Please explain this "Linux" thing to me, everyone talks about it, but they assume that everyone "just knows" what it is.
I thought Google screwed it up when they decided to use Java/Linux instead of GNU/Linux...
Actually...
http://www.ende-der-vernunft.org/files/joern/20090221-gnufragranceg.jpg
The Ribbon is great for a program as complex and with as many options as Office. A browser doesn't need it, though
No, they are great with Linux drivers. 2.6.32 will have r600/r700 KMS (including dri2, ttm/gem) and Mesa 7.6 (due very soon) has r600/r700 3D good enough for compiz. Mesa 7.7 will have the Gallium3D r600g driver (not sure what state it will be in).
AMD/ATI has not said anything about a new arch for r800, so it is probably very similar to r600/r700 (r300/r400/r500 was another series of three that were very close) and adding it to the r600 driver shouldn't take too long/
Oh, I see. Yes, your phrasing would have been better.
I watch a fair bit of stuff on youtube - funny clips from various shows, weird Japanese stuff from nico nico douga, Carl Sagan, James Burke, Linux demos, TED...
None of it in full screen, though, and not just because full screen doesn't work well.
Today isn't Tuesday
So? The basics are there, that makes adding newer stuff easier, especially since AFAIK the 5xxx series isn't radically different from 4xxx.
>a custom version for gaming which turns down or off features not needed for gaming ...gaming needs as many or more "features" as anything non-gaming...
if you want better game performance, look for driver improvements and mesa improvements (including gallium3d).
xinput 2 is here. xkb2 is coming. evdev is here. exa and uxa are here. kms is here for some drivers already. the basics of gallium3d are here, the rest, including drivers, is coming. xcb is here, it just needs to be used more. input and output hotplug and autoconfiguration are here. With all this there is no need to replace X. The basic design is ok and the details have come a long way since xfree86.
Squeeze will not freeze until Q1 2010 at the very earliest. There is plenty of time for 2.6.31, and likely even 2.6.32
The drivers *are* in userland (well there, is enough in the kernel to display basic images and text). KMS means the kernel can change video modes, which allows early boot splash screens with no "blink" transitions when X takes over and allows "bluescreens", that is, the kernel can print error messages to the screen even if X locks up.
full screen flash is a dumb idea anyway