If someone on your broadcast segment gets zombied, you WANT the ISP to be able to shut that down, which would be illegal w/o dropping traffic.
Well, they havent done it yet, they're too busy trying to fleece google, amazon and vonage to actually take care of their own networks, so with regards to this particular topic, I see no change should this be implemented.
Then perhaps the solution should be along these lines: If a person is paying for the care, then that person can keep anything on life support for as long as they are willing/able. If that person is no longer willing or able, then anyone else "interested enough" in maintaining the patient on lifesupport can step forward, even against the first person's wishes. When nobody will step forward, the state will pay for X days of life support. At the end of these X days, if no person comes forward to claim responsibility for the patient's care, then the body will be collected for research and/or organ transplants (the public thus receives benefits for the costs incurred to maintain that life). To prevent people from gaming this system, once the state's X days begin, any person wanting to take responsibility for the patient must place a deposit for the average cost of the patient's daily care * X days.
This procedure would then be followed for all patients where the patient did not make an uncontested "living will" requesting withholding of life support in advance of the situation requiring it. If such a request exists and is contested, then the above procedure will be followed until proper proceedings have determined the validity of the request.
... because counting out 500 question marks to figure out why the hell your parameters don't match up is MUCH more fun than being paged at 3AM because the entire production database was wiped out.
What the GP is attempting to do is use the connotation of the word "steal" to make it seem like doing volunteer work is wrong.
Pff. Even if one could steal from oneself, the original poster fails to take into account the ability of a person to capitalize on what they produce. If I'm a salaried programmer, then any programs I write don't go towards my retirement at all. I get my $100k, and the company gets rich off my work.
If I try to go into business for myself, then I almost certainly end up having to sell interest in my company to finance it. Profits from my software go to the shareholders, and again my retirement benefits not.
The only way that writing software could reasonably be expected to affect my retirement is if I'm A) already filthy rich and able to support myself during the research/development phase, or B) come up with something so awesome that it publishes itself overnight, and the money starts pouring in.
So, since the last two are highly unlikely, I keep working my day job by day while pounding out code when I feel like it, to keep my mind sharp.
If someone had a program in place to identify and prosecute those who would injure American citizens
If you believe, even just a bit, that this program would have stopped a single terrorist, please give one scenario explaining how tracing every American's calls does anything other than prove which chinese delivery place is the best? Furthermore, demonstrate how this information cannot be obtained any other way, then prove that (unlike 9/11 where the needed information was in hand but wasn't processed until after the attacks) the government will act on this information in a timely manner.
If a Russian spy had been caught spying on american citizens on such a wide scale during the Cold War, it most certainly would have been considered an act of war.
One woman sewing will not compete on the scale of Dockers.
So? How many does it take? How many grandmas have to knit little mittens for their grandchildren before baby-clothes manufacturers feel the competition? How many people must cook dinner for their families before McDonalds starts feeling the pressure? How many kids must run lemonade stands at rates far below market costs before Minute Maid goes out of business?
How many programmers must work on GPLd code before Microsoft does more than twitch?
Giving your code away for free is stealing from your own retirement.
(if you think coders' time is free, you're not much of a coder)
Next thing you know, Dockers will be suing women for sewing for free. After that, the association of starving artists will be suing preschoolers for giving their parents free drawings to hang on their refrigerator.
If you think crayons and fingerpaints are free, you're not much of an artist.
Even knowing that it's an illusion, the effect is still creepy as heck.
Thats the interesting thing about psychosis. I get the crawling sensation when I've been up for more than 30 hours or so, but for some reason I'm still able to determine that it's not real. It's not the crawling sensations, etc. that separate the psychotics from the rest of us, its something else causing them to not recognize the sensations as not real.
are you unaware of these claims or are you disbelieving them?
Here's some more claims for you: - a terrorist attack on the north pole was thwarted, saving Christamas for all the good little children - terrorists secretly replaced Tiger Woods golfballs with talc, he was saved from humilation at the last second thanks to the efforts of the NSA - terrorists planned to take over American Idol and force the show to be cancelled mid-sesason
Bush has repeatedly shown himself to be a man of half-truths and deceptions. If he doesn't want 70% of the country to disbelieve him now, he should either have thought of that sooner or offer us some proof. Until then, I have no reason to believe his fabrications over mine.
Polls suggest that another 9/11 type attack is the worst future option and that the government must take necessary steps to prevent it.
Let me know when they get around to doing that. I seem to recall a commission looking into what went wrong on 9/11 and how to prevent that from happening again. I don't recall their report suggesting that the government spy on it's own citizens. I also don't recall the government making most of the changes the commission called for either.
And the worst case isn't a "9/11 type attack" because 3/4 of the way through 9/11 Americans proved that they will never allow a plane to be hijacked again. No, the worst case is that terrorists walk right across the border with bombs and start blowing things up. And no, putting a few thousand guardsmen on patrol without even the power to make arrests is not going to prevent it.
Suppose Google's homepage has to traverse 5 networks to go to my PC. How is Google's fee going to be split across these networks?
Thats simple: It's not. All five networks will demand their own payment. In addition to the money Google is paying to their own ISP. In addition to the money I am paying to my own ISP. In addition to the money that already changes hands between all 5 networks.
The worst part of this, that nobody seems to realize, is that this is double-blackmail for Google. If google fails to pay Network F and Network F retailiates by dropping 50% of the packets coming from Google, not only is this slow for the customers of Google, but Google will have to pay their ISP for the extra bandwidth required to resend the packets. Ah, but 50% of the retransmits will be dropped, and 50% of THOSE retransmits will be dropped... any math majors around to tell us what google's final bandwidth bill will be? Ignoring that, all of these retransmits will be flooding the network with even MORE bandwidth... wait, wasn't that the so-called "problem" the telco's were trying to "solve" (when it comes to corporations, lies are par for the course)?
Google would do better by simply refusing to pay, and posting a small website reading "Your ISP has decided not to permit you to connect to Google. Please use Yahoo." with the Yahoo link popping up a search for contract law specialists in the customer's area who would be more than happy to explain to Google's customers how they are not receiving the internet service they contracted for.
Customers SHOULD be able to choose different levels of service based on their needs and pay accordingly.
Except in the worst case scenario we're hurtling towards, we're not. If Google doesn't pay Qwest, then it may be that NONE of Qwest's subcontractors will be able to connect me to Google, regardless of how much I'm willing to pay (short of writing a check for millions in Google's name).
Orrrrrrrr... you get a warrant to bust down the known nutjob's door, seize his property, subpoena his phone records and interrogate everyone he's called. Maybe then you'll have the proof needed to arrest his friend the suspected nutjob. And maybe you'll discover that B wasn't really a terrorist, but you've saved him from being blackmailed into blowing himself up. Or hey, maybe B is pizza hut. Terrorists have to eat too.
But in the end, you've removed a known terrorist from the wild, interrupting his plans and ruining his recruiting efforts. You have a trial (and hopefully a conviction) to show that you are actually doing something for the country. You have punishment suitable to discourage other would be terrorists. (life in prison is good. Ruling them insane and putting thim in a straight jacket, face mask and padded room for the rest of their life with daily happy pills would be so much better. Nothing says not-a-martyr like having to have someone else feed you and change your diapers while you drool and grunt.)
"Your controller sucks! Rumble would make it so much better! Quit trying to avoid paying us royalties or we'll keep telling people your console is a cheap piece of crap!"
There is a substantive threat out there, and all the naysaying you put forth doesnt change it.
And? You're going to tell me that spending my tax money so the government can learn that I like pepperoni (wait.. scratch that, they "claim" they're just recording who I called, so supposedly they just know I phone in for pizza often) is going to... what exactly? Outline just one terrorism scenario where knowing who calls who makes the difference between the bomb going off (or insert other attack here) and saving the day. While we're playing 24, if news gets out that the administration already knew who the terrorist was, it goes down in flames for not arresting him immediately, and their party loses every election for the next 50 years. 100 if your plan fails to stop the bomb.
The money would be better spent on real border control, improving security of high-profile and high-risk structures (like oil refineries), and developing real security for airplane flights (such as swapping stupid rules like "no fingernail clippers" for air marshalls). And arresting the terrorists, instead of letting them run around thinking they're going to get away with their misdeeds, because once the terrorist gets the bomb on the bus/train/plane/whatever, no police, soldier, or NSA agent will save your life, no matter how much of it is on their harddrive.
some secret program that is used in the war on terror
Oh shut up. It's not like all these phone taps are going to save anyone's life. You want my phone records? I called pizzahut and ordered a pizza. How many thousands of my tax dollars were spent so that the government could find out I like pepperoni?
Maybe if the government focused their money on a working border control policy rather than admitting that they have no fucking clue who the terrorists are (if there are any) in the country and are instead simply spying on everyone in hopes that they get lucky, then Bush might have kept his 51% approval rating.
are just not things that they ACTUALLY WANT TO DO.
Then they can't make the switch. This isn't an insult. If they dont want to learn how to do something, no magic fairy will come and impart this knowledge on them.
Furthermore, this is not a failing of Linux. You would not fault a car with a standard transmission for not being easy to drive with no training whatsoever for a person who's never been in anything but an automatic, would you? What would you think of a person who thought they could drive stick the first try without actually learning what all the extra parts were for first? What would you think about them when they utterly fail and blame the car instead of themselves for not being willing to invest the time to learn what a clutch is?
In that case, it is the court's function to determine if it covers the actions in question.
Still not correct. The jury trial finds guilt or innocence. If we're going to say "was slipping a knife between the ribs of a guy and piercing his heart murder?" then in the vast majority of jurisdictions in our country, its the job of the prosecutor to decide that that particular action was, say, "First Degree Murder", and then convince a jury that this particular crime took place and that the defendant is guilty of that crime.
Either way, its apparent that I messed up and got carried away by the rising tide, and the NSA is merely pen registering everyone, rather than actually wiretapping the entire country. SCOTUS precedent shows that (at least when using a pen register on one person at a time) it's permissible without a warrant. It's still pretty stupid unless they're going to investigate everyone who called in a pizza order because a known terrorist got the munchies.
Or are you going to say that this was a joke while talking about setting a man who thinks god talks to him on fire to see if god will talk to anyone else was not?
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Go through life expecting the worst, and you'll occasionally be pleasantly surprised.
If someone on your broadcast segment gets zombied, you WANT the ISP to be able to shut that down, which would be illegal w/o dropping traffic.
Well, they havent done it yet, they're too busy trying to fleece google, amazon and vonage to actually take care of their own networks, so with regards to this particular topic, I see no change should this be implemented.
Hyperbole suggests exaggeration
Yes, so if you label someone with a container they only fill 80%, then your label is 20% hyperbole.
Then perhaps the solution should be along these lines: If a person is paying for the care, then that person can keep anything on life support for as long as they are willing/able. If that person is no longer willing or able, then anyone else "interested enough" in maintaining the patient on lifesupport can step forward, even against the first person's wishes. When nobody will step forward, the state will pay for X days of life support. At the end of these X days, if no person comes forward to claim responsibility for the patient's care, then the body will be collected for research and/or organ transplants (the public thus receives benefits for the costs incurred to maintain that life). To prevent people from gaming this system, once the state's X days begin, any person wanting to take responsibility for the patient must place a deposit for the average cost of the patient's daily care * X days.
This procedure would then be followed for all patients where the patient did not make an uncontested "living will" requesting withholding of life support in advance of the situation requiring it. If such a request exists and is contested, then the above procedure will be followed until proper proceedings have determined the validity of the request.
he prince of Bel-Air
Dammit, the containment field has been breached! Everyone, run for your karma! 4chan is leaking onto slaWHERE IS SARAH CONNOR?
... because counting out 500 question marks to figure out why the hell your parameters don't match up is MUCH more fun than being paged at 3AM because the entire production database was wiped out.
What the GP is attempting to do is use the connotation of the word "steal" to make it seem like doing volunteer work is wrong.
Pff. Even if one could steal from oneself, the original poster fails to take into account the ability of a person to capitalize on what they produce. If I'm a salaried programmer, then any programs I write don't go towards my retirement at all. I get my $100k, and the company gets rich off my work.
If I try to go into business for myself, then I almost certainly end up having to sell interest in my company to finance it. Profits from my software go to the shareholders, and again my retirement benefits not.
The only way that writing software could reasonably be expected to affect my retirement is if I'm
A) already filthy rich and able to support myself during the research/development phase, or
B) come up with something so awesome that it publishes itself overnight, and the money starts pouring in.
So, since the last two are highly unlikely, I keep working my day job by day while pounding out code when I feel like it, to keep my mind sharp.
If someone had a program in place to identify and prosecute those who would injure American citizens
If you believe, even just a bit, that this program would have stopped a single terrorist, please give one scenario explaining how tracing every American's calls does anything other than prove which chinese delivery place is the best? Furthermore, demonstrate how this information cannot be obtained any other way, then prove that (unlike 9/11 where the needed information was in hand but wasn't processed until after the attacks) the government will act on this information in a timely manner.
levying war against the United States
If a Russian spy had been caught spying on american citizens on such a wide scale during the Cold War, it most certainly would have been considered an act of war.
One woman sewing will not compete on the scale of Dockers.
So? How many does it take? How many grandmas have to knit little mittens for their grandchildren before baby-clothes manufacturers feel the competition? How many people must cook dinner for their families before McDonalds starts feeling the pressure? How many kids must run lemonade stands at rates far below market costs before Minute Maid goes out of business?
How many programmers must work on GPLd code before Microsoft does more than twitch?
Giving your code away for free is stealing from your own retirement.
Explain.
(if you think coders' time is free, you're not much of a coder)
Next thing you know, Dockers will be suing women for sewing for free. After that, the association of starving artists will be suing preschoolers for giving their parents free drawings to hang on their refrigerator.
If you think crayons and fingerpaints are free, you're not much of an artist.
An email client is not a car.
;)
Judging from the people I see on my daily commute, I think you're wrong
Even knowing that it's an illusion, the effect is still creepy as heck.
Thats the interesting thing about psychosis. I get the crawling sensation when I've been up for more than 30 hours or so, but for some reason I'm still able to determine that it's not real. It's not the crawling sensations, etc. that separate the psychotics from the rest of us, its something else causing them to not recognize the sensations as not real.
are you unaware of these claims or are you disbelieving them?
Here's some more claims for you:
- a terrorist attack on the north pole was thwarted, saving Christamas for all the good little children
- terrorists secretly replaced Tiger Woods golfballs with talc, he was saved from humilation at the last second thanks to the efforts of the NSA
- terrorists planned to take over American Idol and force the show to be cancelled mid-sesason
Bush has repeatedly shown himself to be a man of half-truths and deceptions. If he doesn't want 70% of the country to disbelieve him now, he should either have thought of that sooner or offer us some proof. Until then, I have no reason to believe his fabrications over mine.
Polls suggest that another 9/11 type attack is the worst future option and that the government must take necessary steps to prevent it.
Let me know when they get around to doing that. I seem to recall a commission looking into what went wrong on 9/11 and how to prevent that from happening again. I don't recall their report suggesting that the government spy on it's own citizens. I also don't recall the government making most of the changes the commission called for either.
And the worst case isn't a "9/11 type attack" because 3/4 of the way through 9/11 Americans proved that they will never allow a plane to be hijacked again. No, the worst case is that terrorists walk right across the border with bombs and start blowing things up. And no, putting a few thousand guardsmen on patrol without even the power to make arrests is not going to prevent it.
Suppose Google's homepage has to traverse 5 networks to go to my PC. How is Google's fee going to be split across these networks?
Thats simple: It's not. All five networks will demand their own payment. In addition to the money Google is paying to their own ISP. In addition to the money I am paying to my own ISP. In addition to the money that already changes hands between all 5 networks.
The worst part of this, that nobody seems to realize, is that this is double-blackmail for Google. If google fails to pay Network F and Network F retailiates by dropping 50% of the packets coming from Google, not only is this slow for the customers of Google, but Google will have to pay their ISP for the extra bandwidth required to resend the packets. Ah, but 50% of the retransmits will be dropped, and 50% of THOSE retransmits will be dropped... any math majors around to tell us what google's final bandwidth bill will be? Ignoring that, all of these retransmits will be flooding the network with even MORE bandwidth... wait, wasn't that the so-called "problem" the telco's were trying to "solve" (when it comes to corporations, lies are par for the course)?
Google would do better by simply refusing to pay, and posting a small website reading "Your ISP has decided not to permit you to connect to Google. Please use Yahoo." with the Yahoo link popping up a search for contract law specialists in the customer's area who would be more than happy to explain to Google's customers how they are not receiving the internet service they contracted for.
Customers SHOULD be able to choose different levels of service based on their needs and pay accordingly.
Except in the worst case scenario we're hurtling towards, we're not. If Google doesn't pay Qwest, then it may be that NONE of Qwest's subcontractors will be able to connect me to Google, regardless of how much I'm willing to pay (short of writing a check for millions in Google's name).
Known nutjob
Orrrrrrrr... you get a warrant to bust down the known nutjob's door, seize his property, subpoena his phone records and interrogate everyone he's called. Maybe then you'll have the proof needed to arrest his friend the suspected nutjob. And maybe you'll discover that B wasn't really a terrorist, but you've saved him from being blackmailed into blowing himself up. Or hey, maybe B is pizza hut. Terrorists have to eat too.
But in the end, you've removed a known terrorist from the wild, interrupting his plans and ruining his recruiting efforts. You have a trial (and hopefully a conviction) to show that you are actually doing something for the country. You have punishment suitable to discourage other would be terrorists. (life in prison is good. Ruling them insane and putting thim in a straight jacket, face mask and padded room for the rest of their life with daily happy pills would be so much better. Nothing says not-a-martyr like having to have someone else feed you and change your diapers while you drool and grunt.)
"Your controller sucks! Rumble would make it so much better! Quit trying to avoid paying us royalties or we'll keep telling people your console is a cheap piece of crap!"
There is a substantive threat out there, and all the naysaying you put forth doesnt change it.
And? You're going to tell me that spending my tax money so the government can learn that I like pepperoni (wait.. scratch that, they "claim" they're just recording who I called, so supposedly they just know I phone in for pizza often) is going to... what exactly? Outline just one terrorism scenario where knowing who calls who makes the difference between the bomb going off (or insert other attack here) and saving the day. While we're playing 24, if news gets out that the administration already knew who the terrorist was, it goes down in flames for not arresting him immediately, and their party loses every election for the next 50 years. 100 if your plan fails to stop the bomb.
The money would be better spent on real border control, improving security of high-profile and high-risk structures (like oil refineries), and developing real security for airplane flights (such as swapping stupid rules like "no fingernail clippers" for air marshalls). And arresting the terrorists, instead of letting them run around thinking they're going to get away with their misdeeds, because once the terrorist gets the bomb on the bus/train/plane/whatever, no police, soldier, or NSA agent will save your life, no matter how much of it is on their harddrive.
some secret program that is used in the war on terror
Oh shut up. It's not like all these phone taps are going to save anyone's life. You want my phone records? I called pizzahut and ordered a pizza. How many thousands of my tax dollars were spent so that the government could find out I like pepperoni?
Maybe if the government focused their money on a working border control policy rather than admitting that they have no fucking clue who the terrorists are (if there are any) in the country and are instead simply spying on everyone in hopes that they get lucky, then Bush might have kept his 51% approval rating.
are just not things that they ACTUALLY WANT TO DO .
Then they can't make the switch. This isn't an insult. If they dont want to learn how to do something, no magic fairy will come and impart this knowledge on them.
Furthermore, this is not a failing of Linux. You would not fault a car with a standard transmission for not being easy to drive with no training whatsoever for a person who's never been in anything but an automatic, would you? What would you think of a person who thought they could drive stick the first try without actually learning what all the extra parts were for first? What would you think about them when they utterly fail and blame the car instead of themselves for not being willing to invest the time to learn what a clutch is?
In that case, it is the court's function to determine if it covers the actions in question.
Still not correct. The jury trial finds guilt or innocence. If we're going to say "was slipping a knife between the ribs of a guy and piercing his heart murder?" then in the vast majority of jurisdictions in our country, its the job of the prosecutor to decide that that particular action was, say, "First Degree Murder", and then convince a jury that this particular crime took place and that the defendant is guilty of that crime.
Either way, its apparent that I messed up and got carried away by the rising tide, and the NSA is merely pen registering everyone, rather than actually wiretapping the entire country. SCOTUS precedent shows that (at least when using a pen register on one person at a time) it's permissible without a warrant. It's still pretty stupid unless they're going to investigate everyone who called in a pizza order because a known terrorist got the munchies.
http://www.bartleby.com/66/41/27741.html
Or are you going to say that this was a joke while talking about setting a man who thinks god talks to him on fire to see if god will talk to anyone else was not?
the SS card is pretty much a national id card.
Which it does a pretty crappy job of being, since the numbers are recycled.