Qt has always been relatively niche but it's still hanging around and I think it'd make a great tool for Google, they should make Nokia an offer (a cheap one:) )
They need to look at all mistakes made with mobile platforms for other phones though. Remember that iPhone development was originally to be javascript, but the performance (or whatever) wasn;t good enough so they scrapped it in favour of native code.
WebOS was apparently a great API, but there were concerns about performance too.
Now Microsoft are talking about native code too with their C++ renaissance, citing performance and resource use concerns with.NET (so expect WinPhone8 to be native, c++ development?)
So what should Google do..... look to the others make their NDK into the first-class dev kit. TBH they should have done this from the start, so all those symbian and WinPhone 6.5 devs could reuse all the c++ code they'd built up.
and came to conclusion that going with something like dalvik(a java ripoff) is the best way for them to take, they didn't want to go with native code for whatever reasons.
what reasons? I mean, someone at Google might have said "and it'll run our own version of Java" and that was it, or whoever did the initial prototyping wrote some code in Java and that was enough for it to be Java from then on. No-one really needed to go into in-depth analysis of the benefits of Java v Python or C++ or javascript.
At least, my explanation has as much validity as your assertion.
hack some code together hack some more code on top hack in some fixes tell everyone what l33t haxors they are 'cos they're so productive having written lots and lots of code.
rubbish. At no point in any development process does thinking not enter the equation.
If you're doing something innovative, you'll be spending much more time thinking - re Edison's "genius is 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration" comment. He knew what innovation was!
Too many developers I know think that you can slap something together (calling it 'being creative' or 'innovative') and fail to do a professional job which ends up requiring massive amounts of maintenance, if it works properly at all. Those who really do good job think first, write down their ideas so they won't forget them, develop them, then write down the results so others can use them.
who says it would have needed the 3g mobile internet we take for granted today, way back then, you'd be looking at internal radio networks (mini LANs) and the devices would be used for email, simple text documents and some spreadsheet work.
Mind you, back in 2001 we had mobile internet phones, they weren't brilliant but they did what was needed via WAP.
sure, I know that too as I'm a developer for a MS shop, but we're the exception. Everyone else is told to be users, not developers. MS doesn't make it really really easy for them to get into coding. The Pi does things differently, that's why its a good thing.
Most parents do have a good grasp of what their kids do, its play games, surf the web, chat on facebook. Not necessarily in that order.
The problem here is that everyone is running Windows, and that's been sold to them as a 'consumer device' rather than a general purpose computer. Its no wonder the vast majority of users knows how to program on it, it's practically not designed for that. Its designed to sell a pre-packaged box to people.
Your suggestion to "install virtualbox" shows your geek credentials - and that you'd be useless in business. You have no idea of the (lack of ) technical capabilities of the majority of people out there. This is why RPi is here, it's to promote those skills to the kids so they'll be able to understand what you were talking about.
"[Woodrow Wilson] believed that Germany should be punished
can you read?
so he was in favour of war reparations too, you can't have european reconciliation if you give Germany all the benefit while telling the rest of Europe to accept that Germany stomped all over them, smashed their cities to bits, and wouldn't get even so much as a "sorry"
WW1 wasn't Britain and France v Germany you know. It pretty much ended due to food shortages, Turkey, Bulgaria and Austria gave up and went home, which is a pity as it was Austria who started it all by invading Serbia.
Still, the Treaty of Versailles didn't try to "keep their economy horrible", they instead demanded reparations for the damage caused by Germany's actions in expanding the war to Belgium and France. It was this that gave rise to the extremists. FYI it was Woodrow Wilson who wanted to punish Germany for the war and the American-led League of Nations was granted all of Germany's overseas colonies.
Part of the problem giving rise to nationalistic parties was the clause that Germany had to accept that blamed her for starting the war. The rest of Europe was equally devastated economically, but only Germany got blamed.
But I guess you guys know all about punishing a country for its political beliefs, or have you allowed trade with Cuba yet?
Hatred of America is understandable. (Being an American, it puzzles me, but that's for another argument. I've never claimed we were perfect -- anything but -- but people like you ignore the good that we do for foreign nations, such as provide aid after a natural disaster, because that doesn't fit in with YOUR preconceptions about how "evil" we are.)
I think it can be summed up by the Monty Python sketch where the PLA are discussing what the Romans have done for them.
Most large empires went in, kicked the hell out of the natives, and then began integrating and "civilising" the natives. Bringing them a better existence in the main in exchange for a different bunch of psycho rulers. When America turns up, you know its mainly to show off military might and then.. well, then you're a bit stumped what to do next. Typically it involves a military presence and sometimes a way of grabbing whatever resources you went in there to get.
Consider Iraq, not exactly a good example of American interventionism! (I heard that, once the guns had stopped shooting, the first thing the committee put in place to rebuild did was.... discuss tax laws). Other interventions always do seem to be about solely protecting American interests with military either in hand or in the background as a threat, and never about improving life. Not that I'm saying the other empires weren't the same selfish ways, but at least they did a much better job at keeping what they'd won by working with the conquered.
I know your hearts are in the right place (I refer to the common American, not the fools you keep electing), but your effectiveness even in providing aid is still somehow screwed up. Just think about how well you managed to help your own countrymen in New Orleans!
Still, as for WW2, it's true the Americans helped out a lot, but consider the reason people are annoyed with you for turning up "late" - the Germans and the Allies were all exhausted from a long war, so when you guys finally agreed to come along (instead of profiteering from selling arms to us), it was practically all over anyway. Oh, and thanks for the war loans you gave us to help us rebuild afterwards... I recall they were paid off in 2006! Cheers for that. I guess politicans can't really say "those greedy bastards have us over a barrel".
Pacific theatre was different - that was pretty much USA v Japan (I note you never mentioned the assistance you got from the allies in places like Burma)
Still, I think if the USA hadn't come over to "win" then the war would have fizzled out to a negotiated peace with no-one able to continue. What we'd have today would be a different Germany, still owning the north european countries it occupied. Possibly we'd be seeing a French fight for independence much like the post-Soviet countries.
I like to blame Hollywood. Its brainwashed you guys to believe you can do no wrong, even its not lying to you to rewrite history in your favour. I like to think of you as a well-meaning giant stumbling about the place, trying to help but.. whoops, stood on something again, so-rry. But then I recall the foreign policy disasters, the secret police state you have, the corporate evil, and the fools you've elected and I think you bring all the hate you get down upon yourselves:)
then there's nothing special about the Lumia, you just think a Windows handset is what matters. Make your mind up then - is it the OS or is it the handset?
If its the OS then why weren't any of the other handset releases with Windows on it good enough?
actually, I call Windows Phone 7 a failed product. As for Kin, Zune, Buzz etc, I recall you were comparing Buzz as some failure of Google.
So, I just pointed out that Buzz is as important to Google as Bob, Kin and Zune was to Microsoft. Only Buzz cost them an awful lot less than Kin, just by itself!
iPhone is original stuff from Apple, so we should give them that. The trouble is that Microsoft hasn't really come up with anything original for a decade or so and that's why I think its a dead company trading.
Every review I've seen, including user comments, say that Win8 is a great OS for tablets but shite as shite can be for the desktop. That's why I call it a failure too.
Happens all the time - Sony bought it's way into the console market from truly huge established players when those players lost their way and produced awful products. (remember the Sega Saturn?)
Similarly, Blackberry failed when their special network started to fail, people who were blackberry only users jumped ship to something else.
So what's the most likely outcome for Microsoft? Well, considering they're focussing on a consumer-oriented new OS, I think they're falling in the same trap - of not producing the product their main user (business) wants, and as a result, they'll continue to slide. Its sometimes impossible to buy your way back into a market, I imagine they will try, but I think their day is done. They've had a good run, don't mourn their passing, celebrate what they did back when they provided us with something good for computing.
Yes, its fashionable to rail against MS however....
Google and Apple have not positioned their failed projects are essential strategically to the companys future. Microsoft is better everything on smartphone/table with the release of Win8 and its 'only really suitable for tablet GUI'.
Google's Buzz - they tried something, failed and moved on. They run their winners and cut their losers, how is this a big deal? Its like saying Microsoft failed with Bob and that is a big deal.
I think the Sony walkman was the fastest selling consumer device ever, but in any case, once the Kinect has been bought by every xbox owner... they won't sell any more. It may be fast growth, but its limited growth. I do like that you pick up on possibly the only success product MS has creat.. sorry, purchased... in recent years.
That's why no-one cares about Buzz, but they care about every Microsoft failure.
I don't care whether GM crops are good or bad here, but I know that this particular crop is deliberately produced to be pesticide-resistant (that's what the manufacturer says so I believe this incontrovertibly), I also believe that the reason for sowing such a crop is so the farmer can spray more pesticide, ensuring a better crop of corn. This is the intent of the whole thing.
Whether GM crops are good or bad as a whole has nothing to do with this case. Except, of course, the intent of this strain practically intends to kill insects, or in other words "d'oh"
All herbicides are pesticides, but not all pesticides are herbicides. A pesticide is any material used to eradicate or suppress any other life form which causes a material or economic loss to humans. Pesticides is a very broad term which includes herbicides, insecticides, fungicides, avicides, acaricides, rodenticides and many others.
Pesticides are chemicals or biological agents used to control, repel, attract or kill pests. Pests are organisms that include insects and weeds that compete with humans for food, destroy property, spread disease or are considered a nuisance.
The GMO corn doesn't seem to actually have anything to do with the story.
I understood the GM corn was engineered to be resistant to the pesticide, thus allowing farmers to spray much more of the muck on their crops. I'd assume the manufacturing process picks up enough of the excessive amount of insecticide from the environment and external parts of the corn.
they is the Chancellor of the Exchequer. And no, it's not particularly unfair, as you could say these things were not intended to be misused in such a way, and that tax laws are modified all the time - typically once a year during the budget.
A cute story. Radiated immunity testing involves hitting the Raspberry Pi hard with narrow-band EM radiation, while checking (amongst many other things) that the device is still able to send Ethernet frames to a hub. The first time the team did this, the light on the hub stopped blinking: no frames were making it through. They did it again: still nothing. Finally, they discovered that the hub (which, I should point out, gave every appearance of being CE marked, so it should have been able to get through these tests itself) was being knocked out every time somebody pressed the button. Jimmy used a longer cable, put the hub outside the field, and found that the Raspberry Pi got through its immunity tests with no problems at all.
Too bad their CE certified ethernet hub failed the CE testing.... remember kids, this is what you get when you buy cheap stuff from cheap manufacturing countries.... oh wait!
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Qt has always been relatively niche but it's still hanging around and I think it'd make a great tool for Google, they should make Nokia an offer (a cheap one :) )
They need to look at all mistakes made with mobile platforms for other phones though. Remember that iPhone development was originally to be javascript, but the performance (or whatever) wasn;t good enough so they scrapped it in favour of native code.
WebOS was apparently a great API, but there were concerns about performance too.
Now Microsoft are talking about native code too with their C++ renaissance, citing performance and resource use concerns with .NET (so expect WinPhone8 to be native, c++ development?)
So what should Google do..... look to the others make their NDK into the first-class dev kit. TBH they should have done this from the start, so all those symbian and WinPhone 6.5 devs could reuse all the c++ code they'd built up.
and came to conclusion that going with something like dalvik(a java ripoff) is the best way for them to take, they didn't want to go with native code for whatever reasons.
what reasons? I mean, someone at Google might have said "and it'll run our own version of Java" and that was it, or whoever did the initial prototyping wrote some code in Java and that was enough for it to be Java from then on. No-one really needed to go into in-depth analysis of the benefits of Java v Python or C++ or javascript.
At least, my explanation has as much validity as your assertion.
oh, I don't know. If Oracle manage to kill Java entirely due to this lawsuit then we might all be winners. :-) :-)
erm... even the summary says there's nothing wrong with that.
I think most people do:
hack some code together
hack some more code on top
hack in some fixes
tell everyone what l33t haxors they are 'cos they're so productive having written lots and lots of code.
rubbish. At no point in any development process does thinking not enter the equation.
If you're doing something innovative, you'll be spending much more time thinking - re Edison's "genius is 1% inspiration, 99% perspiration" comment. He knew what innovation was!
Too many developers I know think that you can slap something together (calling it 'being creative' or 'innovative') and fail to do a professional job which ends up requiring massive amounts of maintenance, if it works properly at all. Those who really do good job think first, write down their ideas so they won't forget them, develop them, then write down the results so others can use them.
who says it would have needed the 3g mobile internet we take for granted today, way back then, you'd be looking at internal radio networks (mini LANs) and the devices would be used for email, simple text documents and some spreadsheet work.
Mind you, back in 2001 we had mobile internet phones, they weren't brilliant but they did what was needed via WAP.
sure, I know that too as I'm a developer for a MS shop, but we're the exception. Everyone else is told to be users, not developers. MS doesn't make it really really easy for them to get into coding. The Pi does things differently, that's why its a good thing.
(oh, and it's Linux, which is double-good ;) )
Most parents do have a good grasp of what their kids do, its play games, surf the web, chat on facebook. Not necessarily in that order.
The problem here is that everyone is running Windows, and that's been sold to them as a 'consumer device' rather than a general purpose computer. Its no wonder the vast majority of users knows how to program on it, it's practically not designed for that. Its designed to sell a pre-packaged box to people.
Your suggestion to "install virtualbox" shows your geek credentials - and that you'd be useless in business. You have no idea of the (lack of ) technical capabilities of the majority of people out there. This is why RPi is here, it's to promote those skills to the kids so they'll be able to understand what you were talking about.
who said he wanted performance. He said he wanted fun, which you obviously have no sense of. Good day sir!
"[Woodrow Wilson] believed that Germany should be punished
can you read?
so he was in favour of war reparations too, you can't have european reconciliation if you give Germany all the benefit while telling the rest of Europe to accept that Germany stomped all over them, smashed their cities to bits, and wouldn't get even so much as a "sorry"
WW1 wasn't Britain and France v Germany you know. It pretty much ended due to food shortages, Turkey, Bulgaria and Austria gave up and went home, which is a pity as it was Austria who started it all by invading Serbia.
Still, the Treaty of Versailles didn't try to "keep their economy horrible", they instead demanded reparations for the damage caused by Germany's actions in expanding the war to Belgium and France. It was this that gave rise to the extremists. FYI it was Woodrow Wilson who wanted to punish Germany for the war and the American-led League of Nations was granted all of Germany's overseas colonies.
Part of the problem giving rise to nationalistic parties was the clause that Germany had to accept that blamed her for starting the war. The rest of Europe was equally devastated economically, but only Germany got blamed.
But I guess you guys know all about punishing a country for its political beliefs, or have you allowed trade with Cuba yet?
Hatred of America is understandable. (Being an American, it puzzles me, but that's for another argument. I've never claimed we were perfect -- anything but -- but people like you ignore the good that we do for foreign nations, such as provide aid after a natural disaster, because that doesn't fit in with YOUR preconceptions about how "evil" we are.)
I think it can be summed up by the Monty Python sketch where the PLA are discussing what the Romans have done for them.
Most large empires went in, kicked the hell out of the natives, and then began integrating and "civilising" the natives. Bringing them a better existence in the main in exchange for a different bunch of psycho rulers. When America turns up, you know its mainly to show off military might and then.. well, then you're a bit stumped what to do next. Typically it involves a military presence and sometimes a way of grabbing whatever resources you went in there to get.
Consider Iraq, not exactly a good example of American interventionism! (I heard that, once the guns had stopped shooting, the first thing the committee put in place to rebuild did was.... discuss tax laws). Other interventions always do seem to be about solely protecting American interests with military either in hand or in the background as a threat, and never about improving life. Not that I'm saying the other empires weren't the same selfish ways, but at least they did a much better job at keeping what they'd won by working with the conquered.
I know your hearts are in the right place (I refer to the common American, not the fools you keep electing), but your effectiveness even in providing aid is still somehow screwed up. Just think about how well you managed to help your own countrymen in New Orleans!
Still, as for WW2, it's true the Americans helped out a lot, but consider the reason people are annoyed with you for turning up "late" - the Germans and the Allies were all exhausted from a long war, so when you guys finally agreed to come along (instead of profiteering from selling arms to us), it was practically all over anyway. Oh, and thanks for the war loans you gave us to help us rebuild afterwards... I recall they were paid off in 2006! Cheers for that. I guess politicans can't really say "those greedy bastards have us over a barrel".
Pacific theatre was different - that was pretty much USA v Japan (I note you never mentioned the assistance you got from the allies in places like Burma)
Still, I think if the USA hadn't come over to "win" then the war would have fizzled out to a negotiated peace with no-one able to continue. What we'd have today would be a different Germany, still owning the north european countries it occupied. Possibly we'd be seeing a French fight for independence much like the post-Soviet countries.
I like to blame Hollywood. Its brainwashed you guys to believe you can do no wrong, even its not lying to you to rewrite history in your favour. I like to think of you as a well-meaning giant stumbling about the place, trying to help but.. whoops, stood on something again, so-rry. But then I recall the foreign policy disasters, the secret police state you have, the corporate evil, and the fools you've elected and I think you bring all the hate you get down upon yourselves :)
then there's nothing special about the Lumia, you just think a Windows handset is what matters. Make your mind up then - is it the OS or is it the handset?
If its the OS then why weren't any of the other handset releases with Windows on it good enough?
wouldn't it be just as good if Nokia had stuck Android on its phones? Windows isn't really adding any value to the market.
Mind you if you are female and blonde; you will accept this with open arms
just like the sex pest stalker who's following her.
actually, I call Windows Phone 7 a failed product. As for Kin, Zune, Buzz etc, I recall you were comparing Buzz as some failure of Google.
So, I just pointed out that Buzz is as important to Google as Bob, Kin and Zune was to Microsoft. Only Buzz cost them an awful lot less than Kin, just by itself!
iPhone is original stuff from Apple, so we should give them that. The trouble is that Microsoft hasn't really come up with anything original for a decade or so and that's why I think its a dead company trading.
Every review I've seen, including user comments, say that Win8 is a great OS for tablets but shite as shite can be for the desktop. That's why I call it a failure too.
Happens all the time - Sony bought it's way into the console market from truly huge established players when those players lost their way and produced awful products. (remember the Sega Saturn?)
Similarly, Blackberry failed when their special network started to fail, people who were blackberry only users jumped ship to something else.
So what's the most likely outcome for Microsoft? Well, considering they're focussing on a consumer-oriented new OS, I think they're falling in the same trap - of not producing the product their main user (business) wants, and as a result, they'll continue to slide. Its sometimes impossible to buy your way back into a market, I imagine they will try, but I think their day is done. They've had a good run, don't mourn their passing, celebrate what they did back when they provided us with something good for computing.
Yes, its fashionable to rail against MS however....
Google and Apple have not positioned their failed projects are essential strategically to the companys future. Microsoft is better everything on smartphone/table with the release of Win8 and its 'only really suitable for tablet GUI'.
Google's Buzz - they tried something, failed and moved on. They run their winners and cut their losers, how is this a big deal? Its like saying Microsoft failed with Bob and that is a big deal.
I think the Sony walkman was the fastest selling consumer device ever, but in any case, once the Kinect has been bought by every xbox owner... they won't sell any more. It may be fast growth, but its limited growth. I do like that you pick up on possibly the only success product MS has creat.. sorry, purchased... in recent years.
That's why no-one cares about Buzz, but they care about every Microsoft failure.
I don't care whether GM crops are good or bad here, but I know that this particular crop is deliberately produced to be pesticide-resistant (that's what the manufacturer says so I believe this incontrovertibly), I also believe that the reason for sowing such a crop is so the farmer can spray more pesticide, ensuring a better crop of corn. This is the intent of the whole thing.
Whether GM crops are good or bad as a whole has nothing to do with this case. Except, of course, the intent of this strain practically intends to kill insects, or in other words "d'oh"
you're not right.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_and_herbicides_pesticides
All herbicides are pesticides, but not all pesticides are herbicides. A pesticide is any material used to eradicate or suppress any other life form which causes a material or economic loss to humans. Pesticides is a very broad term which includes herbicides, insecticides, fungicides, avicides, acaricides, rodenticides and many others.
and
http://www.chromatography-online.org/directory/analtcat-24/page.html
Pesticides are chemicals or biological agents used to control, repel, attract or kill pests. Pests are organisms that include insects and weeds that compete with humans for food, destroy property, spread disease or are considered a nuisance.
not quite true - grasses pollinate using the wind, they basically spray their pollen all over the grass fields and hope for the best.
So you won't starve, 'cos you'll have wheat and oats and corn. Just no fruit, or most vegetables.
The GMO corn doesn't seem to actually have anything to do with the story.
I understood the GM corn was engineered to be resistant to the pesticide, thus allowing farmers to spray much more of the muck on their crops. I'd assume the manufacturing process picks up enough of the excessive amount of insecticide from the environment and external parts of the corn.
they is the Chancellor of the Exchequer. And no, it's not particularly unfair, as you could say these things were not intended to be misused in such a way, and that tax laws are modified all the time - typically once a year during the budget.
From TFA:
A cute story. Radiated immunity testing involves hitting the Raspberry Pi hard with narrow-band EM radiation, while checking (amongst many other things) that the device is still able to send Ethernet frames to a hub. The first time the team did this, the light on the hub stopped blinking: no frames were making it through. They did it again: still nothing. Finally, they discovered that the hub (which, I should point out, gave every appearance of being CE marked, so it should have been able to get through these tests itself) was being knocked out every time somebody pressed the button. Jimmy used a longer cable, put the hub outside the field, and found that the Raspberry Pi got through its immunity tests with no problems at all.
Too bad their CE certified ethernet hub failed the CE testing.... remember kids, this is what you get when you buy cheap stuff from cheap manufacturing countries.... oh wait!