Use separate browser windows as the 'groups'. That's what I do. Can't imagine 60-80 tabs in one window. I have one window with the 6 I need for home mail, system monitoring, contract company mail, ticketing database, etc, and the other is for general browsing and has 5-10 tabs open in it.
Wasting screen real-estate is a very bad move IMNSHO. Let your OS take care of organizing things in a flexible manner. Multiple windows to group, each with multiple tabs is an elegant solution. This proposal, however, is not.
If I really don't want 'multiple' windows, that's where compiz tabbed windows comes into play. Now I can flip between several browser windows, each with multiple tabs, but have them merged to the same window. This is where things should go. Let the OS manage windows in an elegant manner. Yes, compiz adds much more than just eye candy.
You want to know how to keep people from blocking your ads? Keep them as a small banner (or text), at a consistent size, at the top or bottom of the page, and no animation, tracking crap, or flash. Oh, wait. That's exactly how it used to be. You all decided to start with the nonsense, though. And then we found a way to stop you from doing it to us. You reap what you sow. Advertisements, I'm sure, would never have been blocked in the first place had you not been so damned obnoxious with them.
So now, even if you were to go back to unobtrusive banner ads, we would never see them. That's your own damned fault.
quantity != quality. "Need to do something already covered better with something else? There's an app for that!" "Want to display a screen-scraping interface to a web page? There's an app for that!" When do you guys get a real chat client that doesn't sign you off when you move to another screen? Oops.
What the OP said. Viruses are a user behavior issue, and hence not solved with technology. I fact, AV makes the problem worse. "I have AV. I can run whatever I want and not worry about it". Then there are the problems that type of software itself causes: poor system performance, increased cpu usage (AV is against the green movement!:-) ), greater potential for data corruption, hung processes, etc.
You don't even have to go that far. Just install the free unix tools for windows. I carry these around on a usb thumbdrive. I even set up a custom zsh environment that allows me to write she-bang scripts, including activestate perl (also running from the usb drive).
No, Linux isn't windows, BUT,if it were very easy to run windows apps in Linux (for common Joe user with Joe user level hardware), I think it would be a boon to Linux.
Wrong. That's exactly what Shuttleworth is saying. If linux can run windows programs, then traditional windows programmers have no reason to try to develop natively for the platform. This is one thing that ended up killing OS/2. But Linux, luckily, cannot be killed in this way thanks to the community of open source developers around it. OS/2 didn't have that advantage, so died when nobody wrote native apps for it. Not to discredit the WINE developers for the work they have done, but native apps are the better approach here.
Shuttleworth has it right. We don't want to be another way to run windows programs. We need to be our own environment, and not ape things just for the sake of doing it the same, tired, broken way. I am happy to see that many of the wonderful things from OS/2's WPS are slowly making their way into the linux environments. There's still a way to go, but it's already better in many ways than the windows UI 'experience'.
I *have* to do that on many occasions because my Comcast DVR decides to take a dump for whatever reason du jour. IANAL, but I'd say you are within your rights to watch the stuff you are paying for. The alternative is to sue comcast for not providing the service you are paying for (in my case).
Even better: "No child allowed to excel". It saddens me that children that may not ever really be motivated get all of the attention, and those who want to move forward are not helped in any way.
Any news on a 64 bit version of boxee? I signed up, but the only system I have that has everything needed to run it is my 64 bit laptop. So, I remain unable to easily check it out. I'm not going to spend money on another piece of hardware just to test this.
What PeterBrett said. Where I work, we can't do it the easy way because of security requirements, but the methodology still works. We just have to rsync the various repos each day, and the cron job just points to the local repo on each box instead of central ones hanging out somewhere.
They are a nice device for personal use. I'd never get one for work, though, as it is then expected you are checking the thing all the time. No thanks. Like you said, the culture around those things is wrong, and if it's important, they should call you.
If you're going to be a big showoff and use military time, you could at least get it right. It was at 23:30 EDT. Next time, just say 11:30PM EDT and don't be a douchebag. Over and out.
You might want to take your own advice there, Phylarr. It's either "over", as in "I've said my piece and now it's your turn to talk again." or "Out", as in "Conversation's over, I'm hanging up now.". NEVER both.
Right to free speech != right to harrassment. I agree, it's not spam. But the guy asked several times to be removed from the mailing list. I'm not sure the legalities of not being able to send messages to the president of a senate, however.
Perhaps, but when a 2 lane road at 50mph with no passing goes to a 4 lane road at 30mph with a dashed-white passing lane outside of a town's limits, that's just a speed trap, and an abuse of the "law" for profit by the government. I love commuting to Maryland. *blah*.
If I can't understand how it does things, and if I can't explicitly enable/disable components as needed, then no, it is not the most secure OS on the planet. Not even close. And as for functionality? Please.
Hint: I can easily build a linux box to be a hardened gateway/firewall/ipsec device out of the box. I don't think windows can do that, nor will it ever with Microsoft's past and current philosophy.
Does windows include a flexible SPI firewall at the level of iptables yet? Can I disable all services that listen on network sockets yet without breaking *something* in the OS?
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How about this:
Use separate browser windows as the 'groups'. That's what I do. Can't imagine 60-80 tabs in one window. I have one window with the 6 I need for home mail, system monitoring, contract company mail, ticketing database, etc, and the other is for general browsing and has 5-10 tabs open in it.
Wasting screen real-estate is a very bad move IMNSHO. Let your OS take care of organizing things in a flexible manner. Multiple windows to group, each with multiple tabs is an elegant solution. This proposal, however, is not.
If I really don't want 'multiple' windows, that's where compiz tabbed windows comes into play. Now I can flip between several browser windows, each with multiple tabs, but have them merged to the same window. This is where things should go. Let the OS manage windows in an elegant manner. Yes, compiz adds much more than just eye candy.
You want to know how to keep people from blocking your ads? Keep them as a small banner (or text), at a consistent size, at the top or bottom of the page, and no animation, tracking crap, or flash. Oh, wait. That's exactly how it used to be. You all decided to start with the nonsense, though. And then we found a way to stop you from doing it to us. You reap what you sow. Advertisements, I'm sure, would never have been blocked in the first place had you not been so damned obnoxious with them.
So now, even if you were to go back to unobtrusive banner ads, we would never see them. That's your own damned fault.
Trespass, maybe? They are putting something on *my* property without consulting me first.
quantity != quality. "Need to do something already covered better with something else? There's an app for that!" "Want to display a screen-scraping interface to a web page? There's an app for that!" When do you guys get a real chat client that doesn't sign you off when you move to another screen? Oops.
What the OP said. Viruses are a user behavior issue, and hence not solved with technology. I fact, AV makes the problem worse. "I have AV. I can run whatever I want and not worry about it". Then there are the problems that type of software itself causes: poor system performance, increased cpu usage (AV is against the green movement! :-) ), greater potential for data corruption, hung processes, etc.
You don't even have to go that far. Just install the free unix tools for windows. I carry these around on a usb thumbdrive. I even set up a custom zsh environment that allows me to write she-bang scripts, including activestate perl (also running from the usb drive).
http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/
Wrong. That's exactly what Shuttleworth is saying. If linux can run windows programs, then traditional windows programmers have no reason to try to develop natively for the platform. This is one thing that ended up killing OS/2. But Linux, luckily, cannot be killed in this way thanks to the community of open source developers around it. OS/2 didn't have that advantage, so died when nobody wrote native apps for it. Not to discredit the WINE developers for the work they have done, but native apps are the better approach here.
Shuttleworth has it right. We don't want to be another way to run windows programs. We need to be our own environment, and not ape things just for the sake of doing it the same, tired, broken way. I am happy to see that many of the wonderful things from OS/2's WPS are slowly making their way into the linux environments. There's still a way to go, but it's already better in many ways than the windows UI 'experience'.
I *have* to do that on many occasions because my Comcast DVR decides to take a dump for whatever reason du jour. IANAL, but I'd say you are within your rights to watch the stuff you are paying for. The alternative is to sue comcast for not providing the service you are paying for (in my case).
Even better: "No child allowed to excel". It saddens me that children that may not ever really be motivated get all of the attention, and those who want to move forward are not helped in any way.
- security ... etc.
- bandwidth
- interference/reliability
Any news on a 64 bit version of boxee? I signed up, but the only system I have that has everything needed to run it is my 64 bit laptop. So, I remain unable to easily check it out. I'm not going to spend money on another piece of hardware just to test this.
What PeterBrett said. Where I work, we can't do it the easy way because of security requirements, but the methodology still works. We just have to rsync the various repos each day, and the cron job just points to the local repo on each box instead of central ones hanging out somewhere.
Oh god, no. Those dock bars are friggin' horrible.
A way to put stuff on directly on the root context menu vs. a 'scripts' folder for nautilus would be welcome, however.
They are a nice device for personal use. I'd never get one for work, though, as it is then expected you are checking the thing all the time. No thanks. Like you said, the culture around those things is wrong, and if it's important, they should call you.
You forgot:
-porn
We beat them on *BOTH*. If only PHBs would understand that. *sigh*
Good, Fast, Cheap.... pick all three.
...they won't do the same thing for MALWARE sites! You know, the places where people end up becoming part of a botnet.
Yeah. Just what we need. More DOSing spam zombies. These dimwits remain blissfully ignorant. It's the rest of us who suffer.
You might want to take your own advice there, Phylarr. It's either "over", as in "I've said my piece and now it's your turn to talk again." or "Out", as in "Conversation's over, I'm hanging up now.". NEVER both.
Right to free speech != right to harrassment. I agree, it's not spam. But the guy asked several times to be removed from the mailing list. I'm not sure the legalities of not being able to send messages to the president of a senate, however.
Perhaps, but when a 2 lane road at 50mph with no passing goes to a 4 lane road at 30mph with a dashed-white passing lane outside of a town's limits, that's just a speed trap, and an abuse of the "law" for profit by the government. I love commuting to Maryland. *blah*.
If I can't understand how it does things, and if I can't explicitly enable/disable components as needed, then no, it is not the most secure OS on the planet. Not even close. And as for functionality? Please.
Hint: I can easily build a linux box to be a hardened gateway/firewall/ipsec device out of the box. I don't think windows can do that, nor will it ever with Microsoft's past and current philosophy.
Does windows include a flexible SPI firewall at the level of iptables yet? Can I disable all services that listen on network sockets yet without breaking *something* in the OS?
New law:
In order to create a new law, you must repeal 2.
Maybe we'd get some sensible laws then.
I thought he was *against* lobbying groups?
I'm looking for this game...