Personally I haven't seen a major app not put menu items in the apps menu for a couple of years. That is assuming that you get a version of your app for your distribution.
Yeah but I think he dodged the point of the original question which was / seemed to me to be that Microsoft harks on about how there are no guarantees with open source, but that's just as true of Microsoft.
It may be illegal, it may be immoral, but *it is not theft*
Please read the dictionary, your assumption about the definition of theft is wrong. See my post above for a note from Websters clarifying what theft is.
Just btw... Here's a note from Websters on the definition of theft...
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Note: To constitute theft there must be a taking without the owner's consent, and it must be unlawful or felonious; every part of the property stolen must be removed, however slightly, from its former position; and it must be, at least momentarily, in the complete possession of the thief. See Larceny, and the Note under Robbery.
It's funny that music sales have gone up since filesharing happened isn't it... Despite the music industry's cawing about how much revenue they were going to lose.
No, theft is when you take something away from someone. Get a dictionary. If I download a film then the studio is no worse off after I download it than they were before I downloaded it. Therefore it is not theft.
Now you can argue that they are not getting money that they *would* get were I not to download the film, but you're making assumptions there.
Before things like bittorrent I never bought a DVD or video. I maybe rented 2 or 3 films a year on average, which I still do.
Now I'm not saying that what I'm doing is legal or right, but no one is worse off than they would be if I didn't download films.
It's not theft, it's copyright infringement, they are not the same thing.
I would agree with you if you said that most people think that copyright infringement is not right, but you are using a loaded term which means something different to the correct term.
Actually SCO is after IBM for breach of contract, all the stuff about copyright breach and putting stuff into Linux has been dropped. That is, SCO claim IBM put stuff in Linux that they shouldn't have, but the stuff they alledgedly put in was still owned by IBM, the question is whether IBM was breaching its contract with SCO by putting that code in, not whether that code can legally be in Linux.
Why on earth is it hard to have user freindly documentation *and* man pages? It's not as if text takes up that much space, and anyway, if you don't want the grandma doc sthen just don't install grandmadocs-1.1-3.. Where's the problem? What am I missing?
I'm afraid that you don't know what you're talking about. That or you're being wilfully obtuse.
Spotlight has its hooks into the OS.
Beagle doesn't need them, it uses inotify which informs it when there's a file change.
Any app that saves a document automatically updates the spotlight metadata store.
Ditto, see above.
Every app gets access to search this database via a spotlight API.
Yes there's a Beagle API you can query.
It seems to use Apple's own high-performance v-twin search algorithm.
I'm sure that's great. Beagle returns results in under a second. Fine for me. Maybe you have super-fast fingers of typing +1!
Also, software developers are welcome to develop their own data types which will automatically be indexed by Spotlight.
Ditto. Anyone can add a filetype plugin.
Until geeks can wrap their heads around these concepts, people like you will continue to post links to 'version 0.0.5' open source projects (which depend on other packages to do stuff like indexing) and say that it's going to be just like something that Apple will put out in a few months.
Well let's see...
1. We have two products, neither of which are 1.0. So? 2. Did you know that lots of Apple programs rely on 'other packages' to 'do stuff'. Amazing! Perhaps you could do a little reading up on the principles of Unix, which incidentally OSX is based on.
I'm afraid I skipped the virtually content free ranty parts of your post, because frankly life is too short..
Haven't seen search folders implemented yet, but they're hardly rocket science. Apart from that what does spotlight do that's so special that's not done by Beagle / BEST?
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have you tried running nvidia-settings?
But the HTML and plain text versions are sent in separate mime blocks, so a text only reader should have no problem.
So what's the problem?
It's called X actually.
So you didn't get it from the recommended place?
Personally I haven't seen a major app not put menu items in the apps menu for a couple of years. That is assuming that you get a version of your app for your distribution.
> It was a war fought for civil rights. QED: civil war.
Ehm, civil as in pertaining to a city or state, as in a war within a country. Civil rights have nothing to do with the naming of the war.
Yep, thank God that's the only thing wrong with the US.
Uh.. did you even read the /. article? This is at the expense of IE.
Those linked FC2 RPMs work ok on FC3. Only prob I had was with Entrance not compiled to use PAM iirc.
Yeah but I think he dodged the point of the original question which was / seemed to me to be that Microsoft harks on about how there are no guarantees with open source, but that's just as true of Microsoft.
yeah mod grandparent up (and not what appears to be the grandparent, which is saying directly the opposite...)
copying a file is copyright infringement. copyright infringement is not theft.
copyright is still illegal, and probably by most people's definitions wrong.
but it's not theft.
Yeah I read his(/her) post first, so the form was in my head.
You're right though.
I'm from the UK but I was using a US dictionary as reference because let's face it /. is US centric.
:)
I don't have an OED to hand, but I'm pretty sure that theft still requires something to be taken away from the injured party that they once had.
Please correct me if I'm wrong though
No you're wrong.
It may be illegal, it may be immoral, but *it is not theft*
Please read the dictionary, your assumption about the definition of theft is wrong. See my post above for a note from Websters clarifying what theft is.
So if I get it from an FTP site it's ok?
Actually technically it's legal if I get it from an FTP site. The site is breaking the law but I'm not.
I completely agree.
I just object to the use of the term theft, because it's clearly an appeal to emotion.
Incidentally, if the movie studios offered me non-DRM-encumbered films for a few pounds I would gladly pay it. I use bittorrent for the convenience.
Just btw... Here's a note from Websters on the definition of theft...
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Note: To constitute theft there must be a taking without the owner's consent, and it must be unlawful or felonious; every part of the property stolen must be removed, however slightly, from its former position; and it must be, at least momentarily, in the complete possession of the thief. See Larceny, and the Note under Robbery.
It's funny that music sales have gone up since filesharing happened isn't it... Despite the music industry's cawing about how much revenue they were going to lose.
No, theft is when you take something away from someone. Get a dictionary. If I download a film then the studio is no worse off after I download it than they were before I downloaded it. Therefore it is not theft.
Now you can argue that they are not getting money that they *would* get were I not to download the film, but you're making assumptions there.
Before things like bittorrent I never bought a DVD or video. I maybe rented 2 or 3 films a year on average, which I still do.
Now I'm not saying that what I'm doing is legal or right, but no one is worse off than they would be if I didn't download films.
It's not theft, it's copyright infringement, they are not the same thing.
I would agree with you if you said that most people think that copyright infringement is not right, but you are using a loaded term which means something different to the correct term.
What it doesn't say is that you will have to sign a second EULA (the Steam one) as well as having an internet connection.
Actually SCO is after IBM for breach of contract, all the stuff about copyright breach and putting stuff into Linux has been dropped. That is, SCO claim IBM put stuff in Linux that they shouldn't have, but the stuff they alledgedly put in was still owned by IBM, the question is whether IBM was breaching its contract with SCO by putting that code in, not whether that code can legally be in Linux.
Why on earth is it hard to have user freindly documentation *and* man pages? It's not as if text takes up that much space, and anyway, if you don't want the grandma doc sthen just don't install grandmadocs-1.1-3.. Where's the problem? What am I missing?
I'm afraid that you don't know what you're talking about. That or you're being wilfully obtuse.
Spotlight has its hooks into the OS.
Beagle doesn't need them, it uses inotify which informs it when there's a file change.
Any app that saves a document automatically updates the spotlight metadata store.
Ditto, see above.
Every app gets access to search this database via a spotlight API.
Yes there's a Beagle API you can query.
It seems to use Apple's own high-performance v-twin search algorithm.
I'm sure that's great. Beagle returns results in under a second. Fine for me. Maybe you have super-fast fingers of typing +1!
Also, software developers are welcome to develop their own data types which will automatically be indexed by Spotlight.
Ditto. Anyone can add a filetype plugin.
Until geeks can wrap their heads around these concepts, people like you will continue to post links to 'version 0.0.5' open source projects (which depend on other packages to do stuff like indexing) and say that it's going to be just like something that Apple will put out in a few months.
Well let's see...
1. We have two products, neither of which are 1.0. So?
2. Did you know that lots of Apple programs rely on 'other packages' to 'do stuff'. Amazing! Perhaps you could do a little reading up on the principles of Unix, which incidentally OSX is based on.
I'm afraid I skipped the virtually content free ranty parts of your post, because frankly life is too short..
also..
Beagle is still in development, but here's a couple of demos of it working:
http://nat.org/demos/
No..
Haven't seen search folders implemented yet, but they're hardly rocket science. Apart from that what does spotlight do that's so special that's not done by Beagle / BEST?