It's funny because you're ignorant. Do try not to be such a cliche.
America was named after an Italian map maker, the first person to use the name on a map was German, and the first person to use North and South America on a map was Flemish.
The people who brought the English language to the continent were English (and/or British), surprisingly enough.
Brazilians, Salvadorians and Mexicans probably don't want to be called Americans as that name is already associated with the USA.
I couldn't give two shits about whether there's a country called Europe, really, why would anyone care, that's such a bizarre insult, and no, I don't measure the size of my e-peen based on the physical size of the geo-political boundaries I was born in.
I didn't say it was a monopoly on software mp3 players, I specified pre-installed. I know it's not a market monopoly anyway, I was just making a point that what Apple are doing isn't so different to what people shoot down MS for.
It doesn't mean anything. It's a tongue in cheek jab at the fact that people who live in the USA have appropriated the word American to refer solely to themselves, excluding all the other countries in North and South America.
"According to the numbers, the overall microprocessor market revenue went to US$6.9 billion, down by 20.6% from the US$8.6 billion in the first quarter of 2008. Intel's share went down by 2.5 points to 79.1%, while AMD's revenue rose 2.3 points to 12.8%."
> By the way, I know how healthcare works in Europe. > "Oh, you have insurance, come ahead now." Maybe > Greece and Italy aren't part of Europe, but your > universal healthcare seems to be a case of some > pigs are more equal.
Eh? Can't comment on anywhere else, but in the UK having insurance makes no difference to your treatment in the NHS. It means you can go to a private provider, but it makes no difference to your NHS provision.
Well as I said in another comment, they do have a monopoly on the software shipped with OSX. Probably doesn't count as a monopoly in market terms though.
iTunes isn't a piece of consumer electronics. This isn't about compatibility with the iPod, it's about compatibility with iTunes.
It could be argued that Apple are illegally leveraging their monopoly on pre-installed apps on OSX to bolster their near monopoly in the (hardware) MP3 player market.
Only if someone ports all the regular apps to it. It's going to be running a custom UI at least. Of course that's possible as it's OSS, but it's far from guaranteed to happen.
Well my laptop is far from state of the art, but it's still running an early Core (1) Duo processor and it can't manage 'HD' (YouTube's idea of it) Flash. This is with the official Adobe Flash 10 plugin.
Really the performance is awful compared to the Windows version.
Well I think that everything that can possibly work as a Google web app won't be provided in another form. I wouldn't expect to see a full suite of OSS apps pre-installed.
It's only the UI that works in your browser, *all* the data the app works with lives on their servers. At best you'll be able to keep a subset on the browser for offline use, but as soon as you go online again it'll re-sync with the back-end. Just look at GMail Google Docs etc. Basically if you use them then all your data are belong to Google.
Regarding take-up, I wasn't really saying that privacy would be an impediment to adoption, if that were the case then Google wouldn't be where they are now. I was just saying that to me, as someone who cares about FOSS, it's not a very interesting development. Of course this is speculation for now, I may eat my words when we see it in its final form.:)
The OS is OSS but Google want to essentially make the OS a thin wrapper around web based apps. Google's web apps are proprietary, closed, and datamine the crap out of your usage and personal data.
So although there will probably be some positives for OSS from this, perhaps some more drivers for the Linux kernel, on the whole it's going to do little for real FOSS adoption.
Unfortunately Flash's video performance in Linux is awful, and I'm doubting the Crunchpad is going to be sporting a very fast processor, so I wouldn't hold out for full screen video. A video linked from the article shows it doing fullscreen flash video (not Flash's idea of HD either) and it looked like it was managing a few FPS.
Still, I'm quite tempted by one of these. I was considering getting a netbook for the livingroom / kitchen, or just to hand to my girlfriend when she wants to look something up online but can't be bothered to wait for her Ubuntu box to boot.
The price is looking a little high to me though. It might end up being a netbook after all.
I think he meant 'it's PHP' as in it's a patched version of the PHP interpreter, not that it's an app written in PHP. As PHP is open source you can't redistribute a patched version as closed source,
Well I'm not sure about the case with Virgin, who don't share their lines, but BT is obliged to, as the GP somewhat rudely said. So at least in terms of BT, who own all the non-cable last mile infrastructure in the country, it's not handing them alone a gift, although they will profit from it, it's also a gift to all the ADSL providers that use BT's infrastructure (at least the last mile), which is all of them.
Still, I'm not sure what a better solution is tbh, considering the current situation. A better contract at the time of privatisation would have been a solution, but that horse has bolted.
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Are you sure Microsoft did that? It's news to me. Sounds more like Intel's antitrust suit in the EU.
Anyway my point about MS was regarding using default installed software (WMP, iTunes) as leverage for something else (WMA, iPod).
It's funny because you're ignorant. Do try not to be such a cliche.
America was named after an Italian map maker, the first person to use the name on a map was German, and the first person to use North and South America on a map was Flemish.
The people who brought the English language to the continent were English (and/or British), surprisingly enough.
Brazilians, Salvadorians and Mexicans probably don't want to be called Americans as that name is already associated with the USA.
I couldn't give two shits about whether there's a country called Europe, really, why would anyone care, that's such a bizarre insult, and no, I don't measure the size of my e-peen based on the physical size of the geo-political boundaries I was born in.
Go wave your flag son.
I didn't say it was a monopoly on software mp3 players, I specified pre-installed. I know it's not a market monopoly anyway, I was just making a point that what Apple are doing isn't so different to what people shoot down MS for.
It doesn't mean anything. It's a tongue in cheek jab at the fact that people who live in the USA have appropriated the word American to refer solely to themselves, excluding all the other countries in North and South America.
Sure, but having a monopoly in some area isn't illegal. It's using it to unfairly gain traction in another that's illegal.
Still the point is moot, as I agree it's not a monopoly in market terms.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-Gains-Market-Share-from-Intel-113818.shtml
"According to the numbers, the overall microprocessor market revenue went to US$6.9 billion, down by 20.6% from the US$8.6 billion in the first quarter of 2008. Intel's share went down by 2.5 points to 79.1%, while AMD's revenue rose 2.3 points to 12.8%."
Giving a rebate for not stocking a competitor? That sounds pretty much exactly like a bribe to me.
> By the way, I know how healthcare works in Europe.
> "Oh, you have insurance, come ahead now." Maybe
> Greece and Italy aren't part of Europe, but your
> universal healthcare seems to be a case of some
> pigs are more equal.
Eh? Can't comment on anywhere else, but in the UK having insurance makes no difference to your treatment in the NHS. It means you can go to a private provider, but it makes no difference to your NHS provision.
Well as I said in another comment, they do have a monopoly on the software shipped with OSX. Probably doesn't count as a monopoly in market terms though.
Intel were sued for illegal business practices. They used their virtual CPU monopoly to bully or 'bribe' system builders into not stocking AMD.
I'm loving how many USians are getting their panties in a twist about it though, so don't let me stop you. ;)
I really hope it's meant to be.
iTunes isn't a piece of consumer electronics. This isn't about compatibility with the iPod, it's about compatibility with iTunes.
It could be argued that Apple are illegally leveraging their monopoly on pre-installed apps on OSX to bolster their near monopoly in the (hardware) MP3 player market.
Only if someone ports all the regular apps to it. It's going to be running a custom UI at least. Of course that's possible as it's OSS, but it's far from guaranteed to happen.
I don't think so. Whether it has the rights of a person or not, it's still a singular entity.
Well my laptop is far from state of the art, but it's still running an early Core (1) Duo processor and it can't manage 'HD' (YouTube's idea of it) Flash. This is with the official Adobe Flash 10 plugin.
Really the performance is awful compared to the Windows version.
Well I think that everything that can possibly work as a Google web app won't be provided in another form. I wouldn't expect to see a full suite of OSS apps pre-installed.
I hope I'm wrong though ;)
It's only the UI that works in your browser, *all* the data the app works with lives on their servers. At best you'll be able to keep a subset on the browser for offline use, but as soon as you go online again it'll re-sync with the back-end. Just look at GMail Google Docs etc. Basically if you use them then all your data are belong to Google.
Regarding take-up, I wasn't really saying that privacy would be an impediment to adoption, if that were the case then Google wouldn't be where they are now. I was just saying that to me, as someone who cares about FOSS, it's not a very interesting development. Of course this is speculation for now, I may eat my words when we see it in its final form. :)
The OS is OSS but Google want to essentially make the OS a thin wrapper around web based apps. Google's web apps are proprietary, closed, and datamine the crap out of your usage and personal data.
So although there will probably be some positives for OSS from this, perhaps some more drivers for the Linux kernel, on the whole it's going to do little for real FOSS adoption.
As far as I understand it none of the Gnome Mono apps use those other libraries. Perhaps ADO.net, I'm not certain.
Certainly they don't use Winforms, they use the GTK bindings.
Unfortunately Flash's video performance in Linux is awful, and I'm doubting the Crunchpad is going to be sporting a very fast processor, so I wouldn't hold out for full screen video. A video linked from the article shows it doing fullscreen flash video (not Flash's idea of HD either) and it looked like it was managing a few FPS.
Still, I'm quite tempted by one of these. I was considering getting a netbook for the livingroom / kitchen, or just to hand to my girlfriend when she wants to look something up online but can't be bothered to wait for her Ubuntu box to boot.
The price is looking a little high to me though. It might end up being a netbook after all.
Interesting. Don't know why I assumed it was.
I think he meant 'it's PHP' as in it's a patched version of the PHP interpreter, not that it's an app written in PHP. As PHP is open source you can't redistribute a patched version as closed source,
Well I'm not sure about the case with Virgin, who don't share their lines, but BT is obliged to, as the GP somewhat rudely said. So at least in terms of BT, who own all the non-cable last mile infrastructure in the country, it's not handing them alone a gift, although they will profit from it, it's also a gift to all the ADSL providers that use BT's infrastructure (at least the last mile), which is all of them.
Still, I'm not sure what a better solution is tbh, considering the current situation. A better contract at the time of privatisation would have been a solution, but that horse has bolted.
There's no need for a web connection to go over port 80.
I wish I had a post to moderate you off-topic.
*Waits to get moderated off-topic*