An monolithic-kernel-based minix/unix-like OS that can barely run emacs, only works on the x86 processor family, is still being modified to use GNU tools, and has virtually no driver support?
This sounds like... Yes, it must be Linux a few years back!
You are either a bad C++ programmer or just haven't heard of these things: 'vector' is a member of the C++ standard template library and is therefore not added especially for AltiVec. The STL seems to be a good place to insert these assembler optimizations. Since the class abstraction is pretty high, you can do a lot of speed-increasing operations in the dark dwellings inside the classes. All applications written in standard C++ will benefit from this.
So, what you mean is that every time Windows format a persons C drive thanks to some mistake (oooh, what does this button labeled 'Format' do?), they can sue Microsoft?
It has been proven that 94%+ of Windows problems come from faulty hardware. Don't blame Microsoft for that.
This hardware question is interesting. All this hardware that fails in Windows mysteriously start working when you reboot to OS/2 or Linux! Now, you tell me: does my video card sense when I run Windows and try to crash it all the time, and then go back to the normal operation mode when rebooted? Or does my memory become defect in Windows, but gets repaired on reboot?
This "defective hardware" argument is one of the greatest excuses used by pro-Windows zealots. Stop using it - you look like fools, you fools.
Virtual memory (VM) is how you implement processes with separate memory spaces; with a page table, and a page fault handler in the kernel. It's how your swap space gets used on Linux.
It was probably a Virtual Machine (VM) the previous poster talked about. Seems like he didn't read the article at all.;-)
The Ultras are quite funny machines. Compared to ordinary PC:s, they suck as workstations. Slow, clumpsy, just a real pain in the ass. If you use them as servers instead, you will notice something strange: they can take a huge amount of abuse, and still ask for more. These things are probably as close to immortal as a computer can get. Don't waste an Ultra for workstation duty, replace one of your PC servers with it and enjoy.
Excuse my complete ignorance, but, the above message seems to imply that IBM's stuff can replace Sun's JRE - is this correct?
Yes. As long as you don't use any of the JDK 1.2 functionality, you can use IBM:s JDK without any trouble at all. You will recieve a considerable performance improvement, even with generally bad systems like NT.
You won't believe the damage you can do with Brainfuck. This got to be one of the most sick and absurd languages ever made. With source code looking more like ASCII art than text, eight reserved signs with no parameters and in general a totally whacky language - you're in for the kill.
Shockwave is going to kill Java unless something is done to speed up the raw GUI performance.
What?!? You can't be serious about this. Just try to make a fully functional IRC client, a mail app or something similar in Shockwave. Plain impossible. Not to mention that Java is literally flying with IBM:s JDK available for both OS/2, NT and Linux. My trusty P200/96MB makes a wonderful development machine for Java, thanks to this. Now, if you use the Blackdown VM, I can see what you mean by performance problems, but if you want speed - don't use it.
Now, if only Slackware had some sort of package manager..
Use the pkgtools, which are easily accessible from the setup utility. Standard.tar.gz files for Slack are easy to handle this way, even for an OS/2 developer like me. Slack 3.2 was my first Linux ever, and I still prefer it over DeadHat and all other distros.
You got to be kidding. My system (P200/96MB/Warp 4) runs Java apps extremely fast. Every single time something has failed it has been because of the application, not the Java environment. What you are referring to might be all of those worthless applets out there. The difference between applets and real applications in Java is huge.
Good thing the reviewer isn't a guitarist. He would be pretty sick and tired of carrying around a guitar, tons of cables, a pack of effects, at least one Marshall and a power plant. Oh, yes, not to mention about a billion picks. How come your new picks always disappears and gets replaced by old, crappy ones?
I recieved a mail containing a similar contents - but from the Team Warped mailinglist. Someone is spamming all the RC5 teams!
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So you consider NT stable? I have two diskettes with a small defect: track 0 is broke on them. Whenever I insert one of these into a machine equipped with NT, you see a nice, blue screen containing lots of hexadecimal information. This has to be one of the worst bugs ever. Why not just report that my disc is defect instead of crashing the entire OS without any warning?
If you find current implementations of Java somewhat sluggish, you won't believe the speed of this baby. On my P200/64MB running OS/2 Warp 4, this thing just blows everything away. One of my friends found the speed to be similar (or better) compared to Microsofts JVM for NT on a P2-350/128. Add a 100% pure implementation to that, and you have a killer. This JVM is what made me change my mind about coding for Java, and it will probably affect you too.
Lets imagine for a minute that all the software that you don't own the rights to use on your computer were erased. A computer with merely Notepad and Netscape Communicator. How much work would you achieve on a setup like that? In a flash, you would probably switch to Linux for tons of free software, or spend tons of money on software licences. This is why Microsoft actually gain market shares for Windows when you install those warez for Windows: you get tied to the apps for a specific platform. When you later start working for a company, they have a choice of giving you good, quality software (like Linux) and train you for a couple of days/weeks/months, or provide you with the stuff you already know how to use and get work done instantly.
Short conclusion: if all of us stop dealing with those warez, we would all benefit from it. My system contains only one propretary product, and that's Warp 4. The rest is free, GPL:ed - whatever. Why not join the good guys?
The previous version (5.0 for all of you who don't know about it) didn't really impress me. Yes, it had tons of features, but it was really slow and unstable. I downloaded this thing and expected a few bugs to be fixed to give me a little bit more stable application. Boy, was I wrong. All of a sudden, they have tuned the previous glob of lard into something... well, faster. The install was speedier, and the same thing goes for just about everything else. The interface has also been improved. After a few minutes of usage, it feels like Star Division might have gotten it right this time.
Note: I tested the OS/2 version and not the one for Linux, but I'm pretty sure the same thing applies to every single other version out there.
You choose the right tool for the right job. So you want high SMP scalability, journaling file systems, LVM, USB and a world-class object oriented UI? Choose OS/2 Warp 5 Server. It's not open source, it's not free - but it works incredibly well. If you want it for free but with lower quality or with some features removed, choose Linux. Later kernel versions will hopefully take care of this, but for now...
Wouldn't it be (easier || simpler || faster) to just use Java? Yes, it takes a while to load the classes and the VM, but most Java VM:s out there are very fast and gives a considerable speed push compared to previous versions. That, the XP stuff and a wonderful language is a killer.
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An monolithic-kernel-based minix/unix-like OS that can barely run emacs, only works on the x86 processor family, is still being modified to use GNU tools, and has virtually no driver support?
This sounds like... Yes, it must be Linux a few years back!
No, Mozilla is scheduled enter alpha status with M16 when it will be feature complete. Then all that is left is a large amount of bugchasing.
Yep, this works just fine. My machine runs Warp 4, Slack 7 and Win98 without any of them bothering a single bit.
You are either a bad C++ programmer or just haven't heard of these things: 'vector' is a member of the C++ standard template library and is therefore not added especially for AltiVec. The STL seems to be a good place to insert these assembler optimizations. Since the class abstraction is pretty high, you can do a lot of speed-increasing operations in the dark dwellings inside the classes. All applications written in standard C++ will benefit from this.
So, what you mean is that every time Windows format a persons C drive thanks to some mistake (oooh, what does this button labeled 'Format' do?), they can sue Microsoft?
It has been proven that 94%+ of Windows problems come from faulty hardware. Don't blame Microsoft for that.
This hardware question is interesting. All this hardware that fails in Windows mysteriously start working when you reboot to OS/2 or Linux! Now, you tell me: does my video card sense when I run Windows and try to crash it all the time, and then go back to the normal operation mode when rebooted? Or does my memory become defect in Windows, but gets repaired on reboot?
This "defective hardware" argument is one of the greatest excuses used by pro-Windows zealots. Stop using it - you look like fools, you fools.
Virtual memory (VM) is how you implement processes with separate memory spaces; with a page table, and a page fault handler in the kernel. It's how your swap space gets used on Linux.
;-)
It was probably a Virtual Machine (VM) the previous poster talked about. Seems like he didn't read the article at all.
I wish I had one of those UltraSparc machines.
The Ultras are quite funny machines. Compared to ordinary PC:s, they suck as workstations. Slow, clumpsy, just a real pain in the ass. If you use them as servers instead, you will notice something strange: they can take a huge amount of abuse, and still ask for more. These things are probably as close to immortal as a computer can get. Don't waste an Ultra for workstation duty, replace one of your PC servers with it and enjoy.
I'm curious to know what someone hasn't learned in a bathroom.
Never put your schlong under the toilet seat.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/ US/reuters19991129_3333.html
You can't sue the hospital for not telling you you're bleeding to death.
Especially not after that you have died.
Excuse my complete ignorance, but, the above message seems to imply that IBM's stuff can replace Sun's JRE - is this correct?
Yes. As long as you don't use any of the JDK 1.2 functionality, you can use IBM:s JDK without any trouble at all. You will recieve a considerable performance improvement, even with generally bad systems like NT.
You won't believe the damage you can do with Brainfuck. This got to be one of the most sick and absurd languages ever made. With source code looking more like ASCII art than text, eight reserved signs with no parameters and in general a totally whacky language - you're in for the kill.
Shockwave is going to kill Java unless something is done to speed up the raw GUI performance.
What?!? You can't be serious about this. Just try to make a fully functional IRC client, a mail app or something similar in Shockwave. Plain impossible. Not to mention that Java is literally flying with IBM:s JDK available for both OS/2, NT and Linux. My trusty P200/96MB makes a wonderful development machine for Java, thanks to this. Now, if you use the Blackdown VM, I can see what you mean by performance problems, but if you want speed - don't use it.
Now, if only Slackware had some sort of package manager..
.tar.gz files for Slack are easy to handle this way, even for an OS/2 developer like me. Slack 3.2 was my first Linux ever, and I still prefer it over DeadHat and all other distros.
Use the pkgtools, which are easily accessible from the setup utility. Standard
You got to be kidding. My system (P200/96MB/Warp 4) runs Java apps extremely fast. Every single time something has failed it has been because of the application, not the Java environment. What you are referring to might be all of those worthless applets out there. The difference between applets and real applications in Java is huge.
I'm getting the same error message. Haven't bothered to look it up yet.
>Read the manpage, there are 64.
Whoa. 64^7 gives about 4398046511100 possible combinations, while 64^8 something like 281474976711000 (yes, near 262144 gigakeys).
Good thing the reviewer isn't a guitarist. He would be pretty sick and tired of carrying around a guitar, tons of cables, a pack of effects, at least one Marshall and a power plant. Oh, yes, not to mention about a billion picks. How come your new picks always disappears and gets replaced by old, crappy ones?
I recieved a mail containing a similar contents - but from the Team Warped mailinglist. Someone is spamming all the RC5 teams!
Hello dear member!
Team Warped (OS/2) offer you new service of overclocking your operation system
OS/2
For more information please visit http://join.at/freepc
We always think about You
------------------------------------------
This message was sent to you by
Name: Team Warped (OS/2)
Email Address: support@os2.com
IP Address: ras1.icp.rssi.ru
------------------------------------------
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Find out more about this product and try it
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So you consider NT stable? I have two diskettes with a small defect: track 0 is broke on them. Whenever I insert one of these into a machine equipped with NT, you see a nice, blue screen containing lots of hexadecimal information. This has to be one of the worst bugs ever. Why not just report that my disc is defect instead of crashing the entire OS without any warning?
If you find current implementations of Java somewhat sluggish, you won't believe the speed of this baby. On my P200/64MB running OS/2 Warp 4, this thing just blows everything away. One of my friends found the speed to be similar (or better) compared to Microsofts JVM for NT on a P2-350/128. Add a 100% pure implementation to that, and you have a killer. This JVM is what made me change my mind about coding for Java, and it will probably affect you too.
Oh yeah, this thing is fast.
Lets imagine for a minute that all the software that you don't own the rights to use on your computer were erased. A computer with merely Notepad and Netscape Communicator. How much work would you achieve on a setup like that? In a flash, you would probably switch to Linux for tons of free software, or spend tons of money on software licences. This is why Microsoft actually gain market shares for Windows when you install those warez for Windows: you get tied to the apps for a specific platform. When you later start working for a company, they have a choice of giving you good, quality software (like Linux) and train you for a couple of days/weeks/months, or provide you with the stuff you already know how to use and get work done instantly.
Short conclusion: if all of us stop dealing with those warez, we would all benefit from it. My system contains only one propretary product, and that's Warp 4. The rest is free, GPL:ed - whatever. Why not join the good guys?
The previous version (5.0 for all of you who don't know about it) didn't really impress me. Yes, it had tons of features, but it was really slow and unstable. I downloaded this thing and expected a few bugs to be fixed to give me a little bit more stable application. Boy, was I wrong. All of a sudden, they have tuned the previous glob of lard into something... well, faster. The install was speedier, and the same thing goes for just about everything else. The interface has also been improved. After a few minutes of usage, it feels like Star Division might have gotten it right this time.
Note: I tested the OS/2 version and not the one for Linux, but I'm pretty sure the same thing applies to every single other version out there.
You choose the right tool for the right job. So you want high SMP scalability, journaling file systems, LVM, USB and a world-class object oriented UI? Choose OS/2 Warp 5 Server. It's not open source, it's not free - but it works incredibly well. If you want it for free but with lower quality or with some features removed, choose Linux. Later kernel versions will hopefully take care of this, but for now...
Wouldn't it be (easier || simpler || faster) to just use Java? Yes, it takes a while to load the classes and the VM, but most Java VM:s out there are very fast and gives a considerable speed push compared to previous versions. That, the XP stuff and a wonderful language is a killer.