Searching Freshmeat for this? I just did and here is what I found: http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/10/03/93897 2901.html http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/08/21/93526 0021.html http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1998/01/31/88628 8615.html http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/10/12/93976 0444.html http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1998/08/12/90294 2850.html
That's just what I found on the first page... I would imagine it wouldn't be too hard to combine parts of each of these to produce something to fit your exact needs.
First, get a seperate machine, a 386, 486, or a DEC Alpha Multia (my favorite), to act as a firewall/proxy. I'd use Debian GNU/Linux (first choice) or FreeBSD (second choice), as I find Red Hat to be a pain to setup when security is a must, on the firewall/proxy and your P200.
rbf who is typing this on a Alpha running Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 with Linux 2.2.13.
the Readers Digest a few months ago. Basically what the article said was, the USSR is dead, Russia is not honoring the old argeement because it was with the USSR. The U.S. Military and Congress want to tear up the whole thing because the Russians are ignoring it and going ahead with development, but the Clinton Administration wont... We can research but not develop Anti Balistic missile technology. The article really made the point that its all being hung up within the Clinton Administartion!
At least you can get 56K connecitons, the best I've been able to get are 28.8K connections! I REALLY wish they'd bring cable all the way down our street! Or there wasn't a fibre line someplace between here and the phone company for xDSL...
How exciting! Intel has a new 64-bit OS for its new bloatware processor!!! (can you detect my sarcasm).
Seriously now, I've been using Linux on Alpha for a long time now and Tru64 (formerly Digital (formerly OSF/1)) UNIX as been around for a even LONGER time! The very first Alpha, released to the public in 1992, was 64bit! Why would ANYONE want to try out a new platform that's going to cost as much as a house and doesn't even have any compilers yet?
rbf who is typing this on a Alpha running Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 with Linux 2.2.13.
As a hard core (and nosed;-) Alpha user this may be a little biased.
Ok first, some of Compaq's x86 line may be crap. I've only had experience with a few of the Q's x86 systems and those were fine. Since I use Alphas I don't really care...
Now that a new head has been sewn on we'll have to just wait and see if it was a good choice or not. The Q does need to be more price competitive with the other major players. Some of their x86 lines could also use a little quality improvement. In general their systems are pretty cool. I think the Q's new K7 systems are awesome, but they still can't quite touch an Alpha!
Compaq as a company, at least the enterprise group, are a bunch of pretty cool people! The upper management may still need some work, but the enterprise group from what I've seen has their head screwed on stright. As an Alpha user I find the quality of their Alpha systems to be the best! Of course, most of the quality came from DEC...
As for DELL, I would rather build myself a system then buy one from them!
rbf who is typing this on a Alpha running Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 with Linux 2.2.13.
This is cool, all hail me!;-) No, really, I think this is a trick by all the greeting card companies! They just want you to buy more cards! In any case, if secretaries can have their own day why not us?
rbf, who is happily using a Alpha running Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 with kernel 2.2.12.
To me this means choices. You don't have to use those 8 bytes for a Quadword if you don't need it, but if you do, its there. Feel free to prove me wrong!
rbf, who is typing on a Alpha running Linux 2.2.12.
I looked at this and thought "ohh cool," then I thought about it some more.. If this had SCSI and not IDE it would be a nice deal, but I can get a Alpha WITH SCSI for that price! I think the various SPARC processors are interesting, but my Alphas are better values. The newest Alphas are faster then the newest SPARCs anyway... They are also better bang for buck ratio. As for one persons comment on SPARCs running Linux as well as Alphas, I would have to disagree... At least where the 64-bit processors come in; Linux has been running on Alpha FAR longer then on the 64-bit SPARCs! A visit to ultralinux.org shows me that the port to 64-bit SPARCs is not 100% finished, where Linux on all Alphas are.
JMHO,
rbf, who is typing this on a Alpha running Linux 2.2.12. Using Netscape 4.7 (Tru64 UNIX version).
This is great, now the normal ass holes who just miss hitting me (sometimes) will plow into me for sure now! How cool... Seriously, 99% of the people out there don't seem able enough to talk on the phone while driving, what makes you think they can play a game while driving? The engineers of this product must not have to drive often...
Seen on a bumper sticker: "HANG UP AND DRIVE!"
My favorite bumper sticker: "Keep honking, I'm reloading!"
I have yet to find one geek girl (Linux/*BSD/UN*X using female if you prefer;-) in my area (Bellingham, Washington State or anywhere in Washington State for that matter). The only ones I ever run across are Windoze or MacInSquash users... I don't think there are any, if I'm wrong, PLEASE CORRECT ME! I can be reached at the address above, *hint* *hint*. Be sure to remove the.no.spam.please from my address!
Katz is on crack if he's going to claim that all of the success of the G4 will be because of the ultra-hyped processor power of Motorola's newest CPU. Face it Jon, both current Alphas (21264) and Althons (K7-650) can run circles around the G4, regardless of what Apple would have us believe.
I agree completely, Alphas can run circles around ANY other competitor and while I haven't tried a K7 yet, they look pretty sweet too!
And while these G4's may be pretty fast, they are still made by Apple and still come with MacOS installed - yes I know you can install Linux later, but why pay for the MacOS if you don't even like it? Also, does Linux even run on G4's (yet)?
io.admcs.wwu.edu has a nice live web cam that refreshes the images however fast your network conneciton is. It is only one cam, but if it is relevent, you might want to ask them what they are using. Also note the different viewing options, large, zoomed, last 24 hours, and gallery.
HTH,
Ron Farrer ALPHA LINUX POWERED and loving it!
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Yeah.. I like the cases made by www.calpc.com. I guess I'm the odd duck, but I think those ugly colored cases like the icrap err imac would make a better flower pot or maybe a paper weight for the kids. For me it's gotta be 100% steel and "built for WWII" as we say around here...
There are quite a few anti-Q people commenting. I don't see what the big deal is, Compaq is not dead, they are not dieing. The #1 PC making eats DEC and is having a bit of problem digesting all of it. It hasn't even been a full year since they gobbled DEC up, did you all think it would be all done and fine after a few months? So to all you anti-Q people, TAKE A HIKE!!!
I think it was great that DEC sent Linus (old) Alphas. If they hadn't, I wouldn't be typing to you from a Alpha Linux system right now! I didn't mean to make it sound like DEC didn't do anything at all, it's just that Compaq has done MORE in the last year then DEC did for Alpha. DEC supported Linux for quite some time now, but they never marketed the Alpha... Now that Compaq has Alpha, they have been advertising (yes really) including a TV comerical that shows a quick flash of a AlphaServer! DEC as it was would never have sent Linus a NEW Alpha (esp. a server). So I see the fact that Compaq sent him a NEW AlphaServer based on the newest generation Alpha (21264), as a good thing.
Umm, Linux doesn't run on a Sun Enterprise 10000, mind you!
I bet you a Wildfire with 32 21264 CPUs (due out in about 4 months) can beat your Sun Enterprise 10000!
A Wildfire with 64 21264 CPUs (due out before the end of the year) can mop the floor with two of your Sun Enterprise 10000! And wait until next year when the 128 21264 CPU version is out, that will beat three of your Sun Enterprise 10000 systems!!!
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1. Focus WINE development on getting IE to run on Linux.
That's only useful to those of you who use Linux on x86's.. For the rest of us Alpha, SPARC, PowerPC, etc. users, that isn't an option.
Searching Freshmeat for this? I just did and here is what I found:7 2901.html 6 0021.html 8 8615.html 6 0444.html 4 2850.html
http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/10/03/9389
http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/08/21/9352
http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1998/01/31/8862
http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/10/12/9397
http://www.freshmeat.net/appindex/1998/08/12/9029
That's just what I found on the first page... I would imagine it wouldn't be too hard to combine parts of each of these to produce something to fit your exact needs.
rbf using Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 with Linux 2.2.13.
LONG LIVE ALPHA!!!
First, get a seperate machine, a 386, 486, or a DEC Alpha Multia (my favorite), to act as a firewall/proxy. I'd use Debian GNU/Linux (first choice) or FreeBSD (second choice), as I find Red Hat to be a pain to setup when security is a must, on the firewall/proxy and your P200.
rbf who is typing this on a Alpha running Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 with Linux 2.2.13.
LONG LIVE ALPHA!!!
the Readers Digest a few months ago. Basically what the article said was, the USSR is dead, Russia is not honoring the old argeement because it was with the USSR. The U.S. Military and Congress want to tear up the whole thing because the Russians are ignoring it and going ahead with development, but the Clinton Administration wont... We can research but not develop Anti Balistic missile technology. The article really made the point that its all being hung up within the Clinton Administartion!
Pretty screwed if you ask me!
At least you can get 56K connecitons, the best I've been able to get are 28.8K connections! I REALLY wish they'd bring cable all the way down our street! Or there wasn't a fibre line someplace between here and the phone company for xDSL...
Ohh well.
Thank you, that was my point!
LONG LIVE ALPHA!!!
How exciting! Intel has a new 64-bit OS for its new bloatware processor!!! (can you detect my sarcasm).
Seriously now, I've been using Linux on Alpha for a long time now and Tru64 (formerly Digital (formerly OSF/1)) UNIX as been around for a even LONGER time! The very first Alpha, released to the public in 1992, was 64bit! Why would ANYONE want to try out a new platform that's going to cost as much as a house and doesn't even have any compilers yet?
rbf who is typing this on a Alpha running Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 with Linux 2.2.13.
LONG LIVE ALPHA!!!
As a hard core (and nosed ;-) Alpha user this may be a little biased.
Ok first, some of Compaq's x86 line may be crap. I've only had experience with a few of the Q's x86 systems and those were fine. Since I use Alphas I don't really care...
Now that a new head has been sewn on we'll have to just wait and see if it was a good choice or not. The Q does need to be more price competitive with the other major players. Some of their x86 lines could also use a little quality improvement. In general their systems are pretty cool. I think the Q's new K7 systems are awesome, but they still can't quite touch an Alpha!
Compaq as a company, at least the enterprise group, are a bunch of pretty cool people! The upper management may still need some work, but the enterprise group from what I've seen has their head screwed on stright. As an Alpha user I find the quality of their Alpha systems to be the best! Of course, most of the quality came from DEC...
As for DELL, I would rather build myself a system then buy one from them!
rbf who is typing this on a Alpha running Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 with Linux 2.2.13.
LONG LIVE ALPHA!!!
How about Alpha? A 700MHz 21264 is defiantly faster!
rbf who is typing this on an Alpha running Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 with Linux 2.2.13.
LONG LIVE ALPHA!!!
This is cool, all hail me! ;-) No, really, I think this is a trick by all the greeting card companies! They just want you to buy more cards! In any case, if secretaries can have their own day why not us?
rbf, who is happily using a Alpha running Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 with kernel 2.2.12.
LONG LIVE ALPHA!
Please stop spreading FUD. The Alpha is alive and doing quite well. The only things that has changed is NT is now dead.
rbf, who is happily using a Alpha running Linux 2.2.12.
LONG LIVE ALPHA!
For one thing, those 21264 instructions are actually just 32-bits long IIRC ('tho they manipulate 64-bit data).
Quote from the "Alpha Microprosessor Hardware Reference Manual":
Term ---------- Words - Bytes - Bits -- Other
Byte ---------- 1/2 --- 1 ----- 8 -----------
Word ---------- 1 ----- 2 ----- 16 ----------
Dword --------- 2 ----- 4 ----- 32 ---- Longword
Quadword ------ 4 ----- 8 ----- 64 ---- 2 Dwords
To me this means choices. You don't have to use those 8 bytes for a Quadword if you don't need it, but if you do, its there. Feel free to prove me wrong!
rbf, who is typing on a Alpha running Linux 2.2.12.
LONG LIVE ALPHA!
I looked at this and thought "ohh cool," then I thought about it some more.. If this had SCSI and not IDE it would be a nice deal, but I can get a Alpha WITH SCSI for that price! I think the various SPARC processors are interesting, but my Alphas are better values. The newest Alphas are faster then the newest SPARCs anyway... They are also better bang for buck ratio. As for one persons comment on SPARCs running Linux as well as Alphas, I would have to disagree... At least where the 64-bit processors come in; Linux has been running on Alpha FAR longer then on the 64-bit SPARCs! A visit to ultralinux.org shows me that the port to 64-bit SPARCs is not 100% finished, where Linux on all Alphas are.
JMHO,
rbf, who is typing this on a Alpha running Linux 2.2.12. Using Netscape 4.7 (Tru64 UNIX version).
LONG LIVE ALPHA!
This is great, now the normal ass holes who just miss hitting me (sometimes) will plow into me for sure now! How cool... Seriously, 99% of the people out there don't seem able enough to talk on the phone while driving, what makes you think they can play a game while driving? The engineers of this product must not have to drive often...
Seen on a bumper sticker: "HANG UP AND DRIVE!"
My favorite bumper sticker: "Keep honking, I'm reloading!"
I have yet to find one geek girl (Linux/*BSD/UN*X using female if you prefer ;-) in my area (Bellingham, Washington State or anywhere in Washington State for that matter). The only ones I ever run across are Windoze or MacInSquash users... I don't think there are any, if I'm wrong, PLEASE CORRECT ME! I can be reached at the address above, *hint* *hint*. Be sure to remove the .no.spam.please from my address!
Katz is on crack if he's going to claim that all of the success of the G4 will be because of the ultra-hyped processor power of Motorola's newest CPU. Face it Jon, both current Alphas (21264) and Althons (K7-650) can run circles around the G4, regardless of what Apple would have us believe.
I agree completely, Alphas can run circles around ANY other competitor and while I haven't tried a K7 yet, they look pretty sweet too!
And while these G4's may be pretty fast, they are still made by Apple and still come with MacOS installed - yes I know you can install Linux later, but why pay for the MacOS if you don't even like it? Also, does Linux even run on G4's (yet)?
LONG LIVE ALPHA!!!
Awesome!
I would also like some in depth info on ext3, and what would be nice is a comparison of ext2, ext3, and SGI's XFS. Thanks! rbf ALPHA LINUX POWERED!
the Alpha and SPARC versions? Give me a Alpha Linux version and I'll buy a copy or two, or more...
LONG LIVE ALPHA!
io.admcs.wwu.edu has a nice live web cam that refreshes the images however fast your network conneciton is. It is only one cam, but if it is relevent, you might want to ask them what they are using. Also note the different viewing options, large, zoomed, last 24 hours, and gallery.
HTH,
Ron Farrer
ALPHA LINUX POWERED and loving it!
Yeah.. I like the cases made by www.calpc.com. I guess I'm the odd duck, but I think those ugly colored cases like the icrap err imac would make a better flower pot or maybe a paper weight for the kids. For me it's gotta be 100% steel and "built for WWII" as we say around here...
"rbf"
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ALPHA LINUX POWERED and loving it!
There are quite a few anti-Q people commenting. I don't see what the big deal is, Compaq is not dead, they are not dieing. The #1 PC making eats DEC and is having a bit of problem digesting all of it. It hasn't even been a full year since they gobbled DEC up, did you all think it would be all done and fine after a few months? So to all you anti-Q people, TAKE A HIKE!!!
"rbf"
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ALPHA LINUX POWERED and loving it!
I think it was great that DEC sent Linus (old) Alphas. If they hadn't, I wouldn't be typing to you from a Alpha Linux system right now! I didn't mean to make it sound like DEC didn't do anything at all, it's just that Compaq has done MORE in the last year then DEC did for Alpha. DEC supported Linux for quite some time now, but they never marketed the Alpha... Now that Compaq has Alpha, they have been advertising (yes really) including a TV comerical that shows a quick flash of a AlphaServer! DEC as it was would never have sent Linus a NEW Alpha (esp. a server). So I see the fact that Compaq sent him a NEW AlphaServer based on the newest generation Alpha (21264), as a good thing.
"rbf"
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ALPHA POWERED and loving it!
This is good news! Alpha rules even more! Even the old 6 or so year old Alphas here are running 24x7 without problems! Show me that with a x86!
And let us not forget that Compaq sent Linus a AlphaServer DS20 for his personal Linux development system!
Visit alphalinux.org today!
BTW Rob or Hemos, can we change the d|i|g|i|t|a|l back to the Compaq one?
"rbf"
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ALPHA POWERED and loving it!
Umm, Linux doesn't run on a Sun Enterprise 10000, mind you!
I bet you a Wildfire with 32 21264 CPUs (due out in about 4 months) can beat your Sun Enterprise 10000!
A Wildfire with 64 21264 CPUs (due out before the end of the year) can mop the floor with two of your Sun Enterprise 10000! And wait until next year when the 128 21264 CPU version is out, that will beat three of your Sun Enterprise 10000 systems!!!
"rbf"
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ALPHA POWERED and loving it!