I actually like one major thing about Solaris... Free CDE.
Okay, so the CDE is ancient. It's still the official standard GUI for Unix. A pity it's binary-only, as I'd like to use it here (and NO, xfce isn't close enough - and no way in hell am I paying pumped-up prices for deXtop!)
So is it safe to say "every mainstream *x" (which is, pretty much, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, OSX, Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, Unixware, Red Hat/Centos/Fedora, SuSE, Mandriva, Debian and Ubuntu) all uses the same basic directory structure as I delineated?
The thing is that for a *x user,/bin,/usr/bin,/lib,/usr/lib,/etc,/usr/local are just expected to be there. This has been true since long before I was even born (1980), and isn't a Linux thing per se (why do you think it's the same damn way for all the mainline BSDs, Solaris, and all the key players in Unixland except for maybe OSX?).
If I had my druthers, I'd have an OS where all the code had one copyright and one license.
Failing that... one license.
And I'd rather that be BSD than GPL personally. Which is why I'm trying to come up with a way to replace the whole userland on my system with one that's BSD licensed, but in Linuxland (I don't really feel like replacing my whole system right now as I have too much invested in it! Next machine though, I'll prolly put NetBSD on) it's easier said than done.
I'd like to see a BSD userland with autotools, even (compare xorg 7). Make things a hell of a lot easier on us.
I look forward to the day when links is the standard and the browser everyone targets. I use Firefox but I don't think anyone should be forced to use ANY particular browser - if it runs on Links it'll prolly run on just about anything.
The US schools aren't generating enough experts because they don't teach students to think on their own. They teach kids to be cogs in the system, bricks in the wall, not the next entrepreneur or great scientist/mathematician/what have you - because bricks in the wall help the powers that be, intelligent people are a threat to the powers that be.
Then perhaps we need a sanity test: if people of average intelligence would know not to do X, Y does X and then sues Z, Y should instantly be required to pay up twice the amount sued for, plus a fine to the court for wasting their time.
They certainly don't recognize international copyrights. That's why companies like Son May Records are allowed to exist in Taiwan, where they would be illegal anywhere else.
Great. Patent a potential cure for cancer so it benefits no one but them. Not to mention that Big Business doesn't want there to be a cure for cancer because they want to keep making money off the suffering of people with cancer. It's all sick to me.:x
Wasn't 1984 set in London? It just proves UK is closer to "1984" than even we over here are. I mean wtf, if they can forbid a person to say the word "grass"? See the other bullshaznat they did. It's unreal.
I've heard people suggest that's why the UK is going all nanny-state, because the kids need it.
Here in the US... I haven't really noticed the kind of person they warn about there, but one place where I went to school did actually get all paranoid like that. Draw a pentagram (not a Baphomet, a regular pentagram with the point up) "ZOMFGQ SATANIC SYMBOL" and they freak out. Draw a circle-A, "ZOMFGQ THIS KID WILL GROW UP TO BE AN ANARCHIST" and they freak out. It's why I spend half of 5th grade in the principal's office. But I think I drew a Nazi sign in red and black ink in 8th grade (different school) and nobody cared. Perhaps because the school was suburban instead of rural?
I have found one particular children's author (Carolyn Haywood) impossible to locate in electronic format. Used to have a physical copy of "Annie Pat & Eddie"... I would defy you to find THAT on eMule.
MS-DOS 4.0 wasn't even a Microsoft product, it was developed at IBM and rebadged.
That said, yes, it was a steaming pile of dung, and about the only documented features it had over 3.3 were large disk support (which Compaq MS-DOS 3.31 had too), the/F switch to FORMAT, and the DOS Shell, and the latter was also a steaming pile of dung. (From my experience I can tell you Start Programs is not all that different from IBM's FIDO shell of 5 years earlier, in terms of how it worked - just with a little more spit and polish.)
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*affected Australian accent* Foster's. Australian for garbage
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I can tolerate 3 beers, haven't had too many other kinds so can't judge them...
Miller Lite, for social drinking.
Miller Magnum 40, for a bit more of a punch (6%).
Anheuser-Busch Hurricane HG, for a kick in the duff (8.1%)
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I actually like one major thing about Solaris... Free CDE.
Okay, so the CDE is ancient. It's still the official standard GUI for Unix. A pity it's binary-only, as I'd like to use it here (and NO, xfce isn't close enough - and no way in hell am I paying pumped-up prices for deXtop!)
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Only $4? Shit, Time Warner gyps me outta $5.50 a month for the box.
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So is it safe to say "every mainstream *x" (which is, pretty much, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, OSX, Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, Unixware, Red Hat/Centos/Fedora, SuSE, Mandriva, Debian and Ubuntu) all uses the same basic directory structure as I delineated?
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The thing is that for a *x user, /bin, /usr/bin, /lib, /usr/lib, /etc, /usr/local are just expected to be there. This has been true since long before I was even born (1980), and isn't a Linux thing per se (why do you think it's the same damn way for all the mainline BSDs, Solaris, and all the key players in Unixland except for maybe OSX?).
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For a lot of these devs... Yes.
Every once in a while I try my code on NetBSD and it usually works, thank ghed, because I try to code for all systems, and not just Linux.
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I thought every other country on Earth except the US was officially using metric now...
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If they work for Links2 and Firefox they will work in IE. I'd say that's all the testing anyone needs (and all the testing I do).
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O_O
You're doing exactly what I'm trying to do! Maybe it would save me some hairpulling.
BTW, I did replace tar/cpio with OpenBSD pax as ported by Thorsten Kukuk + use a cut-down version of NetBSD gzip.
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For the record, I went through the source code for my FOX project's coreutils (48 programs)...
2 programs have a 4th clause for NetBSD
6 programs have a 4th clause for Caldera
1 program (uname) has a 4th clause for Winning Strategies, Inc.
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If I had my druthers, I'd have an OS where all the code had one copyright and one license.
... one license.
Failing that
And I'd rather that be BSD than GPL personally. Which is why I'm trying to come up with a way to replace the whole userland on my system with one that's BSD licensed, but in Linuxland (I don't really feel like replacing my whole system right now as I have too much invested in it! Next machine though, I'll prolly put NetBSD on) it's easier said than done.
I'd like to see a BSD userland with autotools, even (compare xorg 7). Make things a hell of a lot easier on us.
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I look forward to the day when links is the standard and the browser everyone targets. I use Firefox but I don't think anyone should be forced to use ANY particular browser - if it runs on Links it'll prolly run on just about anything.
-uso.
The US schools aren't generating enough experts because they don't teach students to think on their own. They teach kids to be cogs in the system, bricks in the wall, not the next entrepreneur or great scientist/mathematician/what have you - because bricks in the wall help the powers that be, intelligent people are a threat to the powers that be.
-uso.
Then perhaps we need a sanity test: if people of average intelligence would know not to do X, Y does X and then sues Z, Y should instantly be required to pay up twice the amount sued for, plus a fine to the court for wasting their time.
-uso.
They certainly don't recognize international copyrights. That's why companies like Son May Records are allowed to exist in Taiwan, where they would be illegal anywhere else.
-uso.
Great. Patent a potential cure for cancer so it benefits no one but them. Not to mention that Big Business doesn't want there to be a cure for cancer because they want to keep making money off the suffering of people with cancer. It's all sick to me. :x
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Wasn't 1984 set in London? It just proves UK is closer to "1984" than even we over here are. I mean wtf, if they can forbid a person to say the word "grass"? See the other bullshaznat they did. It's unreal.
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I've heard people suggest that's why the UK is going all nanny-state, because the kids need it.
Here in the US... I haven't really noticed the kind of person they warn about there, but one place where I went to school did actually get all paranoid like that. Draw a pentagram (not a Baphomet, a regular pentagram with the point up) "ZOMFGQ SATANIC SYMBOL" and they freak out. Draw a circle-A, "ZOMFGQ THIS KID WILL GROW UP TO BE AN ANARCHIST" and they freak out. It's why I spend half of 5th grade in the principal's office. But I think I drew a Nazi sign in red and black ink in 8th grade (different school) and nobody cared. Perhaps because the school was suburban instead of rural?
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"How can ya have yer pudding if ya don't eat yer meat?"
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Ubuntu still uses syslinux for CDs?
... also Solaris 10 uses grub on their install CD...
I moved to grub for my live CDs
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I have found one particular children's author (Carolyn Haywood) impossible to locate in electronic format. Used to have a physical copy of "Annie Pat & Eddie"... I would defy you to find THAT on eMule.
On the other hand, Roald Dahl was a snap.
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Ironically, I think Windows NT 3.51 used C:\Users too. Much easier on y'olde fingers.
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MS-DOS 4.0 wasn't even a Microsoft product, it was developed at IBM and rebadged.
/F switch to FORMAT, and the DOS Shell, and the latter was also a steaming pile of dung. (From my experience I can tell you Start Programs is not all that different from IBM's FIDO shell of 5 years earlier, in terms of how it worked - just with a little more spit and polish.)
That said, yes, it was a steaming pile of dung, and about the only documented features it had over 3.3 were large disk support (which Compaq MS-DOS 3.31 had too), the
Then there were the undocumented features. Oy.
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Even for Breezy. No sudo required.
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