Nothing is as advanced as Windows Server 2008. NOTHING! Everything else might as well just give up... or append the current year to their program's name before everyone else does. Hey, it's still early in the year... there's still time!
You can argue that those "jails" aren't needed but unfortunately a lot of developers (and FOSS developers are even worse) couldn't design a good usable interface when somebody doesn't hold hands. Give them too much freedom and you will get things like The Gimp. It's a catch 22.
Simple solution: Don't fucking install the program. Let the free market decide what is and is not worth using, the uninstall functionality ain't going anywhere. Apple can keep their personal judgments regarding the design of things they didn't even develop to themselves.
Fuck Steve Jobs and fuck Apple.
It is the same reason why I see a big difference in quality between what is available on my android smartphone (where you can do much more what you want) and on the iPad. I'm not convinced that it is because iOS developers are so much more talented.
Censorship is just great, ain't it? Next, you'll be arguing for laws providing things like freedom of speech and freedom of expression to be revoked at the government level of various countries. Because, you know, it sure would be nice if all you ever heard or seen were really nice things, no negativity in sight.
Yeah, I normally don't even run into much trouble getting the nVidia drivers to work... I used to install them in Zenwalk from the official binaries and have also managed it in its parent, Slackware. In general, normally, the only thing that tends to give me trouble universally across distros is wireless cards. Maybe nVidia was just a weird one-time exception for the current Debian Stable.
Given that support for this new driver seems to be based on the latest development branch of the Linux kernel, unless there's a backport available eventually, I think it's safe to say that getting it set up will not exactly be a walk in the park.
I have had a hell of a time just trying to get the nVidia drivers installed in current Debian 6.0 (though Debian 5.0, ironically did not give as much trouble). And that didn't even require compiling an updated kernel from source. I ended up just giving up trying to get it properly on the current stable... it's just not worth it to completely break X. I have a feeling the problem had something to do with KMS which if I remember right was added to the kernel somewhere around that time.
Too bad what is to be the next Debian Stable has already long been frozen... major, groundbreaking improvements always seem to be implemented at a time that guarantees waiting through an entire release and then some.
Yeah... but I was taking into account the fact that if these people aren't even sophisticated enough to reinstall a copy of Windows, then they sure as hell won't know how anything about Linux.
Hey, they were free gifts to those people given one. And no one forced any of them to just trust it and not manually wipe and re-install a known clean OS.
I would say that's probably pretty accurate. People just unpackage the system, set it up, turn it on and use it. Furthermore, I wouldn't trust the OEM Windows re-installers either since they tend to just install all that OEM shit right back with the OS. That basically makes it a royal pain in the ass to reinstall Windows in trusted form on a modern computer without buying yet another license to the OS in the form of the official retail version.
Don't you see? It's all a part of the plan. You will need a new license of McAfee anti-virus software to be able to protect yourself from these new pieces of surveillance malware. Norton will not do.
Not to mention, Red Hat's business model is based pretty much completely on support... their source is open; nothing is stopping you from downloading the patches is source form and applying them yourself, or just using one of the clones (CentOS, Scientific Linux, etc.)
I don't know about actual Solaris support costs, but I do know that Oracle is one company I will never give a penny to, so to me it doesn't really matter.
They aren't charging you to patch the security problem, they are charging you to get you the hell off Windows XP, which they don't want to support going forward because it no longer represents a marginal ongoing income for them.
Translation: We want even more of your money, and you can't get this security update until we've seen it in the form of a yet another complete OS upgrade. Don't like the new license or additional DRM/lockout features or Metro? Tough. Don't have a machine up to spec for our latest version? Then go buy a brand new one, toss that old one in the landfill. Don't want to pay us again for yet another overpriced OS upgrade just to get another security fix? Then go elsewhere.
They are charging you because they are a corporation. Simple as that. Any living organism's requirements are air, water and sunlight. A corporation's only requirement, beyond those of the assholes running it, is money. And that is understandable until they start gouging you of it (which Microsoft has been doing for a hell of a long time).
I don't know... but it's time to pry the cold, dead Windows XP from your fingers.
No need to. I left Windows back in 2006 just in time for the V-bomb. Since then the only difficult part has been obtaining hardware that does not force you into paying the Windows tax yet again.
Why not give it a go and get back with us on its performance? Something tells me that while it might be theoretically possible on that hardware, it would be an unpleasant experience...
I have a shitty system with an Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800 processor and 1GB RAM (max 2GB) and while Windows 8 is relatively snappy on its own (though still eats into swap heavily right upon boot, typical of Windows), I wouldn't dare attempt to use it for any serious work not expecting some serious memory/swapping-related problems. Similarly, if I were to upgrade to 2GB RAM, I would probably still use the 32-bit version. I would have to get a new machine with several gigabytes of RAM (at least 3GB, but more likely 4GB+) before I would even consider choosing the 64-bit version.
Yes... because if it's "free" then it must magically be inferior. You do know what Darwin, the core of Mac OS X, is based on--right? I already mentioned it, but I doubt that it will matter to you until they start charging for it, eh?
There are plenty of things stopping us. Like, say... the need for food, water, the right range of temperature, a non-toxic atmosphere with oxygen to breathe as well as protect us from cosmic and solar radiation frying our brains and giving us cancer. And did I mention that there will need to be plenty of good doctors around on that planet for the inevitable problems, both those that are destined to occur as well as those that are likely to happen as a result of subjecting our bodies to unnaturally harsh conditions?
Never mind those pesky things like cost associated with getting a civilization set up on a foreign planet, and that's not counting the cost and obscene amount of fuel required just to leave the planet. And don't forget that you need a 100% guaranteed safe landing when you do get there! And of course, there will need to be a hell of a lot of research done to evaluate the safety of a moon or planet to determine whether migration is possible or not without health risks, and if it is, good luck doing a mass migration.
You talk like it's easy... trust me, even with all the money and resources in the world, it's not. There are probably far more considerations than you realize.
FreeBSD. OpenBSD. NetBSD. Slackware, Debian, Arch, Gentoo, KNOPPIX, CRUX, FINNIX... FreeDOS, Haiku... and those are just a few that have specifically been around at least about a decade at no cost.
Add others that are newer projects, spin-offs of older ones, and/or previously commercial distributions and a whole new world opens up: MINIX 3, DragonFly (BSD), PC-BSD (IX Systems), Ubuntu (Canonical), openSUSE, Fedora, Mandriva, Mageia, Scientific Linux, CentOS, Zenwalk, Salix, etc... the list goes on.
Never mind all those others that for whatever reason have ended development over the years, often only to be born again under a new name or replaced by something else, as well as the countless other, newer ones. And of course all those of the past that are no longer around or actively developed. Just look... it's really not that hard to find examples, and this list alone is just a quick one.
The difference is, most other companies don't charge you several hundred dollars for an operating system upgrade just to patch important software vulnerabilities. In fact, most other operating system distributors don't even charge a penny for such a basic service.
They're all fucking mentally deranged morons. And since they are against entertainment media (and basically freedom of speech and expression) while apparently the killer wasn't, I conclude that violent video games are not the common correlation here. It's dumbasses. I'd rather see the country rid itself of them, send them away for "disposal," but that will of course never happen.
Looks like you're being down-modded to hell and back by all the science fiction dreamers out there. Apparently the current state of science and reality hurts when it collides with fantasy. And now, because I chose not to bother posting as AC, I await this post's destiny of negative moderation because I'm not going all sci-fi and arguing with you.
Personally, I think we need to keep our asses on this planet and leave the rest of the universe alone. Sure, people are going to say: But what happens if an asteroid hits the planet and destroys all major non-microbial life? Let it. If we can't somehow prevent it, oh well. Let nature run its course, quit fucking with it. We have done that enough.
Yes... I'm prepared for the avalanche of down-mods based on the negativity of my views, but oh well. No one says you have to agree or anything yourself. Everyone has a right to their own opinion.
Nicole Perlroth reports in the NY Times that the antivirus industry has a dirty little secret: antivirus products are not very good at stopping new viruses.
Why do I get the sense that I've known this all along, and that I have in fact heard this same thing over a decade ago? Oh yeah--because I have, and things don't just magically change.
Software can't just catch 100% of everything that it was not designed to detect in the first place. How is this news? Same shit, different year (or would that more appropriately be decade?).
If security is what you're after, then the majority of Microsoft's competition has Windows whipped. Secure Boot to the rescue, to eliminate all competitors who pose a threat! It's only a matter of time before Microsoft ditches the remaining backwards compatibility (ie. the traditional desktop) and sees no reason not to either force SecureBoot on x86 too, or just switch completely to ARM, allowing x86 to rot.
Rootkits are a very real problem, and SecureBoot is a good step towards eliminating them.
In Windows. So how about Microsoft just allows us users of other operating systems to turn the "feature" off and just leave us the hell alone?
Oh yeah, because then they can't squash their competition so easily--they would be forced to continue competing on fair terms like performance, features, software, and other real factors. When they release a dud like Windows ME, Vista, or Win8/RT, their customers will be unable install an alternative operating system on it, or even a different version of Windows. People who choose not to run Windows anyway will also have to suffer the consequences.
It's a police state for computers... and Microsoft wants to be the leader of it.
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Nothing is as advanced as Windows Server 2008. NOTHING!
Everything else might as well just give up... or append the current year to their program's name before everyone else does.
Hey, it's still early in the year... there's still time!
It still only feels like Firefox 17 was just released last week.
When will the insanity stop? It's getting incredibly tiring.
You can argue that those "jails" aren't needed but unfortunately a lot of developers (and FOSS developers are even worse) couldn't design a good usable interface when somebody doesn't hold hands. Give them too much freedom and you will get things like The Gimp. It's a catch 22.
Simple solution: Don't fucking install the program. Let the free market decide what is and is not worth using, the uninstall functionality ain't going anywhere. Apple can keep their personal judgments regarding the design of things they didn't even develop to themselves.
Fuck Steve Jobs and fuck Apple.
It is the same reason why I see a big difference in quality between what is available on my android smartphone (where you can do much more what you want) and on the iPad. I'm not convinced that it is because iOS developers are so much more talented.
Censorship is just great, ain't it? Next, you'll be arguing for laws providing things like freedom of speech and freedom of expression to be revoked at the government level of various countries. Because, you know, it sure would be nice if all you ever heard or seen were really nice things, no negativity in sight.
Yeah, I normally don't even run into much trouble getting the nVidia drivers to work... I used to install them in Zenwalk from the official binaries and have also managed it in its parent, Slackware. In general, normally, the only thing that tends to give me trouble universally across distros is wireless cards. Maybe nVidia was just a weird one-time exception for the current Debian Stable.
Given that support for this new driver seems to be based on the latest development branch of the Linux kernel, unless there's a backport available eventually, I think it's safe to say that getting it set up will not exactly be a walk in the park.
I have had a hell of a time just trying to get the nVidia drivers installed in current Debian 6.0 (though Debian 5.0, ironically did not give as much trouble). And that didn't even require compiling an updated kernel from source. I ended up just giving up trying to get it properly on the current stable... it's just not worth it to completely break X. I have a feeling the problem had something to do with KMS which if I remember right was added to the kernel somewhere around that time.
Too bad what is to be the next Debian Stable has already long been frozen... major, groundbreaking improvements always seem to be implemented at a time that guarantees waiting through an entire release and then some.
Yeah... but I was taking into account the fact that if these people aren't even sophisticated enough to reinstall a copy of Windows, then they sure as hell won't know how anything about Linux.
Hey, they were free gifts to those people given one. And no one forced any of them to just trust it and not manually wipe and re-install a known clean OS.
I would say that's probably pretty accurate. People just unpackage the system, set it up, turn it on and use it. Furthermore, I wouldn't trust the OEM Windows re-installers either since they tend to just install all that OEM shit right back with the OS. That basically makes it a royal pain in the ass to reinstall Windows in trusted form on a modern computer without buying yet another license to the OS in the form of the official retail version.
Don't you see? It's all a part of the plan. You will need a new license of McAfee anti-virus software to be able to protect yourself from these new pieces of surveillance malware. Norton will not do.
Not to mention, Red Hat's business model is based pretty much completely on support... their source is open; nothing is stopping you from downloading the patches is source form and applying them yourself, or just using one of the clones (CentOS, Scientific Linux, etc.)
I don't know about actual Solaris support costs, but I do know that Oracle is one company I will never give a penny to, so to me it doesn't really matter.
They aren't charging you to patch the security problem, they are charging you to get you the hell off Windows XP, which they don't want to support going forward because it no longer represents a marginal ongoing income for them.
Translation: We want even more of your money, and you can't get this security update until we've seen it in the form of a yet another complete OS upgrade. Don't like the new license or additional DRM/lockout features or Metro? Tough. Don't have a machine up to spec for our latest version? Then go buy a brand new one, toss that old one in the landfill. Don't want to pay us again for yet another overpriced OS upgrade just to get another security fix? Then go elsewhere.
They are charging you because they are a corporation. Simple as that. Any living organism's requirements are air, water and sunlight. A corporation's only requirement, beyond those of the assholes running it, is money. And that is understandable until they start gouging you of it (which Microsoft has been doing for a hell of a long time).
I don't know... but it's time to pry the cold, dead Windows XP from your fingers.
No need to. I left Windows back in 2006 just in time for the V-bomb. Since then the only difficult part has been obtaining hardware that does not force you into paying the Windows tax yet again.
Why not give it a go and get back with us on its performance? Something tells me that while it might be theoretically possible on that hardware, it would be an unpleasant experience...
I have a shitty system with an Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800 processor and 1GB RAM (max 2GB) and while Windows 8 is relatively snappy on its own (though still eats into swap heavily right upon boot, typical of Windows), I wouldn't dare attempt to use it for any serious work not expecting some serious memory/swapping-related problems. Similarly, if I were to upgrade to 2GB RAM, I would probably still use the 32-bit version. I would have to get a new machine with several gigabytes of RAM (at least 3GB, but more likely 4GB+) before I would even consider choosing the 64-bit version.
Commercial BSDs and Linux distributions are far outnumbered by their non-commercial, community-based, donation-driven counterparts.
Yes... because if it's "free" then it must magically be inferior.
You do know what Darwin, the core of Mac OS X, is based on--right?
I already mentioned it, but I doubt that it will matter to you until they start charging for it, eh?
Yes. Dr. Mario is the root of all evil in this world.
There are plenty of things stopping us. Like, say... the need for food, water, the right range of temperature, a non-toxic atmosphere with oxygen to breathe as well as protect us from cosmic and solar radiation frying our brains and giving us cancer. And did I mention that there will need to be plenty of good doctors around on that planet for the inevitable problems, both those that are destined to occur as well as those that are likely to happen as a result of subjecting our bodies to unnaturally harsh conditions?
Never mind those pesky things like cost associated with getting a civilization set up on a foreign planet, and that's not counting the cost and obscene amount of fuel required just to leave the planet. And don't forget that you need a 100% guaranteed safe landing when you do get there! And of course, there will need to be a hell of a lot of research done to evaluate the safety of a moon or planet to determine whether migration is possible or not without health risks, and if it is, good luck doing a mass migration.
You talk like it's easy... trust me, even with all the money and resources in the world, it's not. There are probably far more considerations than you realize.
FreeBSD. OpenBSD. NetBSD.
Slackware, Debian, Arch, Gentoo, KNOPPIX, CRUX, FINNIX...
FreeDOS, Haiku... and those are just a few that have specifically been around at least about a decade at no cost.
Add others that are newer projects, spin-offs of older ones, and/or previously commercial distributions and a whole new world opens up:
MINIX 3, DragonFly (BSD), PC-BSD (IX Systems), Ubuntu (Canonical), openSUSE, Fedora, Mandriva, Mageia, Scientific Linux, CentOS, Zenwalk, Salix, etc... the list goes on.
Never mind all those others that for whatever reason have ended development over the years, often only to be born again under a new name or replaced by something else, as well as the countless other, newer ones. And of course all those of the past that are no longer around or actively developed. Just look... it's really not that hard to find examples, and this list alone is just a quick one.
The difference is, most other companies don't charge you several hundred dollars for an operating system upgrade just to patch important software vulnerabilities. In fact, most other operating system distributors don't even charge a penny for such a basic service.
They're all fucking mentally deranged morons. And since they are against entertainment media (and basically freedom of speech and expression) while apparently the killer wasn't, I conclude that violent video games are not the common correlation here. It's dumbasses. I'd rather see the country rid itself of them, send them away for "disposal," but that will of course never happen.
Looks like you're being down-modded to hell and back by all the science fiction dreamers out there. Apparently the current state of science and reality hurts when it collides with fantasy. And now, because I chose not to bother posting as AC, I await this post's destiny of negative moderation because I'm not going all sci-fi and arguing with you.
Personally, I think we need to keep our asses on this planet and leave the rest of the universe alone. Sure, people are going to say: But what happens if an asteroid hits the planet and destroys all major non-microbial life? Let it. If we can't somehow prevent it, oh well. Let nature run its course, quit fucking with it. We have done that enough.
Yes... I'm prepared for the avalanche of down-mods based on the negativity of my views, but oh well. No one says you have to agree or anything yourself. Everyone has a right to their own opinion.
Nicole Perlroth reports in the NY Times that the antivirus industry has a dirty little secret: antivirus products are not very good at stopping new viruses.
Why do I get the sense that I've known this all along, and that I have in fact heard this same thing over a decade ago? Oh yeah--because I have, and things don't just magically change.
Software can't just catch 100% of everything that it was not designed to detect in the first place. How is this news? Same shit, different year (or would that more appropriately be decade?).
If security is what you're after, then the majority of Microsoft's competition has Windows whipped. Secure Boot to the rescue, to eliminate all competitors who pose a threat! It's only a matter of time before Microsoft ditches the remaining backwards compatibility (ie. the traditional desktop) and sees no reason not to either force SecureBoot on x86 too, or just switch completely to ARM, allowing x86 to rot.
Rootkits are a very real problem, and SecureBoot is a good step towards eliminating them.
In Windows. So how about Microsoft just allows us users of other operating systems to turn the "feature" off and just leave us the hell alone?
Oh yeah, because then they can't squash their competition so easily--they would be forced to continue competing on fair terms like performance, features, software, and other real factors. When they release a dud like Windows ME, Vista, or Win8/RT, their customers will be unable install an alternative operating system on it, or even a different version of Windows. People who choose not to run Windows anyway will also have to suffer the consequences.
It's a police state for computers... and Microsoft wants to be the leader of it.
They're all in Microsoft HQ.