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John McAfee Explains How He Milked Information From Belize's Elite

paysonwelch points out John McAfee's latest blog post, which "details the complex spy network that he used to tap information from the highest echelons of the Belizean government. He might consider a new career as a movie producer — this blog post is enthralling. Here is an excerpt: 'I purchased 75 cheap laptop computers and, with trusted help, intalled invisible keystroke logging software on all of them — the kind that calls home (to me) and disgorges the text files. I began giving these away as presents to select people — government employees, police officers, Cabinet Minister's assistants, girlfriends of powerful men, boyfriends of powerful women.'"

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  1. Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nut Job

    1. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the article (really):

      I arranged with 23 women and 6 men to be my operatives. Eight of the women were so accomplished that they ended up living with me. It was amazingly more efficient and they were easily convinced to check up on each other. One was so accomplished (Marcia) that she became a double agent and nearly got me killed.

    2. Re:Two words: by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is one of the places where the story rings false. Given any 30 people involved in full-time spying on dozens of other people, it is _inevitable_ that at least one of them would notify the police of this operation. Not only because the activity is illegal, but because very few people can keep quiet about what their wage paying job is for an extended period, and they would inevitably inform lovers, family, or friends. That then multiplies the number of people who might inform on the operation in a plea bargain.

      For anyone who's been involved in handling security of any kind, such as a shared administrative password or simply keeping a corporate merger private before the public announcement, it's simply not feasible: it _will_ leak out with many participants.

    3. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope someone he screwed over delivers him some "permanent" justice

    4. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he didn't deny that they formed lovers, although he sounded too shocked that that they would (it's normal in even professional workplaces?). but the question is, is he just narrating a movie story to the tune of counterterrorism?

      instead of making a movie based on a true event (Argo and the Iranian hostage Crisis in 1979), he's narrating factual information as they're happening (belizeans entering the U.S. and growing castor oil in Nicaragua for force-feeding Tom and Jerry or other use in the comments). And only one man can stop them. Well, I added that last part for humor, but the previous statement holds...

    5. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I hope someone he screwed over delivers him some "permanent" justice

      That's how he got found out, the boyfriend of a powerful man ratted McAfee out because it pissed him off that only the straight people got a laptop.

    6. Re:Two words: by xyourfacekillerx · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Absolutely. This guy's mind is mangled beyond repair from all the MDPV and other cathinones he's been doing for years. He's worse off than a meth addict on a binge, because what he's done to his brain is likely permanent.

    7. Re:Two words: by Freddybear · · Score: 1

      Megalomania. Is that in the DSM? Ah, wiki says no, it's a type of narcissistic personality disorder.

    8. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These blog posts are pretty much guaranteed to be excerpts or adaptations from the novel being written about him. Not a shred of believability.

    9. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is why you don't do certain drugs at all. Not even once.

    10. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dude, it was his last option (being threatened and seeing neighbors and dogs killed is not a good sign that one should stay put), and he only had to be concerned with escaping the country in time before they found out- it's obvious that many people keeping a secret aren't going to be reliable with enough time, but that's not really important, considering he just needed to get out in time.

      So what if he's a good story writer? Many talented professionals, (e.g. hackers, engineers, etc) are also talented writers.

    11. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      writing=communicating

    12. Re:Two words: by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      This is one of the places where the story rings false. Given any 30 people involved in full-time spying on dozens of other people, it is _inevitable_ that at least one of them would notify the police of this operation. Not only because the activity is illegal, but because very few people can keep quiet about what their wage paying job is for an extended period, and they would inevitably inform lovers, family, or friends. That then multiplies the number of people who might inform on the operation in a plea bargain.

      For anyone who's been involved in handling security of any kind, such as a shared administrative password or simply keeping a corporate merger private before the public announcement, it's simply not feasible: it _will_ leak out with many participants.

      ===
      You would have to know that there was spy software on the laptop. You do trust new toys, don't you.
      What was the TROY horse for?

      --
      Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
    13. Re:Two words: by edibobb · · Score: 2

      He might not be nuts. He might be laughing his head off at all the people he suckered into believing this story.

      Or he could be a nut job.

    14. Re:Two words: by Mikkeles · · Score: 1

      This fascination with McAfee rivals the "Diana is still dead" nonsense (including the annual repeats).

      --
      Great minds think alike; fools seldom differ.
    15. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is why Freedom of Information Legislation is needed in most countries for journalists and historians to gain information about government secrets from 10-70 years ago? People underestimate the ability of large groups with appropriate incentives to keep their mouths shut.

    16. Re:Two words: by beckett · · Score: 1

      Given any 30 people involved in full-time spying on dozens of other people, it is _inevitable_ that at least one of them would notify the police of this operation.

      correct. in TFA, one of the people he trusts betrays him.

    17. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No kidding. The reason he's on the run in the first place is because he's the prime suspect in his _neighbour's_ murder in Belize. And his response is...to plaster himself all over western tech media sites as some sort of hacker-hero who's "outwitting" the government (claims for which there are no actual evidence)? Whether it's by drugs, by genetics or otherwise, John McAfee is a raving lunatic. Probably a murderer as well. Why Slashdot continues to give him a platform from which to launch his self-serving nonsense I won't understand. Malda isn't here any more, if anything I figured the veiled advertisments and paid placements would be _reduced_.

      Get it through your thick skulls editors, McAfee doesn't deserve to have his name spoken aloud, let alone have the completely false "exploits" of him running away from a murder accusation posted here every second day.

    18. Re:Two words: by boethius · · Score: 1

      Agreed. It's very, very obvious what a nut McAfee is.

    19. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is one of the places where the story rings false. Given any 30 people involved in full-time spying on dozens of other people, it is _inevitable_ that at least one of them would notify the police of this operation. Not only because the activity is illegal, but because very few people can keep quiet about what their wage paying job is for an extended period, and they would inevitably inform lovers, family, or friends. That then multiplies the number of people who might inform on the operation in a plea bargain.

      For anyone who's been involved in handling security of any kind, such as a shared administrative password or simply keeping a corporate merger private before the public announcement, it's simply not feasible: it _will_ leak out with many participants.

      The moderators and others should note that the parents post is an opinion and a hypothesis, which may be true, but he offers no proof, no evidence, no citations, no deductive theories, no examples.

      Clearly, organizations like the Mafia, drug cartels, biker gangs, Scientology, etc, have more than 30 people in their ranks and yet they have existed for decades, despite intense government and police scrutiny. Of course there were the occasional case of whistle-blowers/rats... but these people were hunted down and known to be associated with law breakers.

      I think the parent post under-estimates how trustworthy small groups of people can be. But over time, yes, the statistics of being found out start to weigh in on the conspirators.

    20. Re:Two words: by detritus. · · Score: 2

      "CIA agent."

    21. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "CIA agent."

      or

      total retard.

    22. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Synonymous.

    23. Re:Two words: by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      This is obviously being promoted by the Norton Antivirus people.

      McAfee is going to be as valuable a trademark as AIDS the diet drug.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    24. Re:Two words: by socceroos · · Score: 1

      Or, he could be building a body of evidence to get himself remitted in court on the basis of being 'mentally insane'. Given his predicament, this is a very smart thing to do. Just have a look at Christopher Skase. My friend was one of the QCs responsible for getting him charged in court, the stories he relates about Skase pretending to be mentally insane in the hearing and then everyone listening to him bark orders to his lawyers out the back are quite interesting.

    25. Re:Two words: by socceroos · · Score: 1

      Bravo, his plan has worked. Now he can safely plead insanity in the courts.

    26. Re:Two words: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Generalissimo Francisco Franco is also "still dead". I'd suggest that he's still more interesting than MR. McAfee...

  2. If he wasn't in trouble before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    He certainly is now.

    If I were in charge, I would send him to Belize as a show of good faith.

    1. Re:If he wasn't in trouble before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Beware of geeks bearing gifts.

    2. Re:If he wasn't in trouble before by Goaway · · Score: 2

      He's in trouble, all right, but the trouble is mostly inside his head.

    3. Re:If he wasn't in trouble before by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Beware of geeks bearing gifts.

      Errr, why?

      Given that this is a site of "News for Nerds", any geek presenting a computing device to someone reading this should be expecting that before the wrapping is in the bin, it'll be being dissected, and before the coffee has finished being made, there will be a Linux distro being downloaded for the device, so that it's capabilities could be thoroughly investigated.

      What the sheeple think .... someone else's problem.

      --
      Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
  3. Slashbloat by OffTheLip · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The amount of coverage McAfee has received on Slashdot and other "news" sources rivals the bloat his software adds to a system. Nothing to see here, move along.

    1. Re:Slashbloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We need some kind of heuristics, or some other method of inoculating us against bad antivirus jokes.

    2. Re:Slashbloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He sold McAfee the software company over 20 years ago. Just saying.

    3. Re:Slashbloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You just wish Peter Norton was this awesome. Fucking superspy.

    4. Re:Slashbloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just wait until he blogs about bribing his way out of Belize with BitCoin.

    5. Re:Slashbloat by SomePgmr · · Score: 1

      Just wait until he blogs about bribing his way out of Belize with BitCoin.

      Or if some of those computer gifts were Raspberry Pi's. :)

    6. Re:Slashbloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not reading slashdot is an important first step...

    7. Re:Slashbloat by charlesbakerharris · · Score: 5, Funny

      You mean the Peter Norton who hasn't been caught yet?

    8. Re:Slashbloat by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      We need some kind of heuristics, or some other method of inoculating us against bad antivirus jokes.

      How about some good innocuous ... oh, never mind.

    9. Re:Slashbloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, given that he has no involvement in the IT business any more, why are we still reading about him here?

    10. Re:Slashbloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Peter Norton is devoid of colourful fantasy because he never eliminated enough of his neurons by using substances.

    11. Re:Slashbloat by poity · · Score: 2

      And also, "milking" implies coaxing/persuading stuff out of people. This is just data theft (or "fraudulently gaining access to other's private information", if you're anal about that)

      --
      your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
    12. Re:Slashbloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *slow clap*

    13. Re:Slashbloat by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

      McAfee serves the role as the Lindsay Lohan of the Geek World. Poor folks love to read about rich folks looking like dumb-asses by finding unfeasible trouble to get themselves into.

      Most of us hear have not become billionaires with our work in the tech industry. It's sometimes refreshing to hear that, despite them having billions, they still do dorky things.

      Or something like that . . .

      --
      Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
    14. Re:Slashbloat by sentientbeing · · Score: 1, Funny

      The case has already been booked. Theyre expecting a 30 daily trial..

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      ------
      beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his mind he dreams himself your master
    15. Re:Slashbloat by stox · · Score: 2

      No one knows when you are a good spy!

      --
      "To those who are overly cautious, everything is impossible. "
    16. Re:Slashbloat by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      I call BS. My proof? James Bond.

      The best kind of spy is the one who can keep spying despite the fact that absolutely everyone knows exactly who he is, and knows of his penchant for martinis, loose women and gambling.

    17. Re:Slashbloat by edibobb · · Score: 1

      Doesn't everybody use substances?

    18. Re:Slashbloat by gentryx · · Score: 3, Funny

      Perhaps Peter Northon is more for you.

      --
      Computer simulation made easy -- LibGeoDecomp
    19. Re:Slashbloat by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      He presents evidence that Iran (Hezbollah) is building up a supply of ricin gas in the US, preparatory for a large-scale attack.

      That's newsworthy, assuming he isn't completely making everything up.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    20. Re:Slashbloat by dadelbunts · · Score: 1

      Kind of like Carl Sagan or Feynman?

    21. Re:Slashbloat by mikael · · Score: 1

      I only use duck tape and WD40 - just about holding it together and slowly creaking along.

      --
      Vintage computer adverts: http://www.vintageadbrowser.com/computers-and-software-ads
    22. Re:Slashbloat by TheMiddleRoad · · Score: 1

      I mod you up 1000000000 for that.

    23. Re:Slashbloat by OneAhead · · Score: 2

      Ricin is not a gas. It's a protein, which makes it difficult to get into gaseous phase without decomposing (at least on a larger scale than a mass spectrometer).

      Also, that's quite the assumption you're making there.

    24. Re:Slashbloat by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Ricin is not a gas. It's a protein, which makes it difficult to get into gaseous phase without decomposing (at least on a larger scale than a mass spectrometer).

      True, but it can be powdered small enough to inhale.

      Also, that's quite the assumption you're making there.

      Which assumption am I making exactly? I was basically trying to summarize the article as I understood it.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    25. Re:Slashbloat by OneAhead · · Score: 1

      Ricin is not a gas. (...)

      True, but it can be powdered small enough to inhale.

      He presents evidence that Iran (Hezbollah) is building up a supply of ricin gas in the US,

      Which assumption am I making exactly? I was basically trying to summarize the article as I understood it.

      That's newsworthy, assuming he isn't completely making everything up.

      It's OK, we're all getting old. I'll get off your lawn now.

    26. Re:Slashbloat by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      lol

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    27. Re:Slashbloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do know James Bond isn't real, right?

    28. Re:Slashbloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best cover is to make a story so everyone assume he isn't real. But Bond is a pansy, the true superspy is Archer.

    29. Re:Slashbloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Relevant comic that isn't xkcd: http://www.viruscomix.com/page529.html

    30. Re:Slashbloat by worf_mo · · Score: 1

      Fucking superspy.

      I think you meant the other Peter.

    31. Re:Slashbloat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This guy is the opposite of awesome, he is a pathetic loser.

    32. Re:Slashbloat by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      No its called espionage albeit of the a private venture nature - Presumably the Belizean government will be wanting him extradited ASAP.

    33. Re:Slashbloat by DiEx-15 · · Score: 1

      The amount of coverage McAfee has received on Slashdot and other "news" sources rivals the bloat his software adds to a system. Nothing to see here, move along.

      But... but... It's always fun to watch a train wreck in progress!

    34. Re:Slashbloat by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      totally OT, but cool noththeless -- staged train wrecks used to be a popular tourist draw

      --

      the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  4. Not possible. by iceworks · · Score: 2

    I have to call BS, I live along the border of Belize and nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE can you find electronics that cheap. Electronics are gold in these countries.

    1. Re:Not possible. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I have to call BS, I live along the border of Belize and nowhere, and I mean NOWHERE can you find electronics that cheap. Electronics are gold in these countries.

      Custom forms are bullshitted every day.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    2. Re:Not possible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chetumal, Mexico? Plus, it doesn't have to be that cheap.... he's frikin loaded!

    3. Re:Not possible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I generally live in Belize 1/4 of the year now, and its certainly possible to get Chinese generic laptops very cheap here. Much cheaper than in America.

    4. Re:Not possible. by CdBee · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm inclined to agree, also because I suspect the kind of mindset who would actually DO this isn't the sort of person who would ever admit it - not least because he's forever besmirched his chance of ever doing it again. I suspect McAfee's suffering the after effects of various experimental chemicals, or delusions brought on by withdrawal symptoms

      --
      I have been a user for about 10 years. This ends Feb 2014. The site's been ruined. I'm off. Dice, FU
    5. Re:Not possible. by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

      >> Chinese generic laptops very cheap here

      Plus they come preloaded with spyware.

    6. Re:Not possible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I countercall BS. He never mentioned a price in his article.

    7. Re:Not possible. by ericloewe · · Score: 1

      One less thing to install, then. Just reconfigure it andgift it away to powerful people.

    8. Re:Not possible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      If only there were a way to detect such things -- you know, some sort of program that can locate and maybe even remove the offending code. Someone who could produce and sell such a thing would surely do well...

    9. Re:Not possible. by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Remember that 'cheap' for him could be a macbook air......

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    10. Re:Not possible. by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      In "The Hacker Crackdown" (a great book, for those who haven't read it), the author interviewed and profiled various hackers. He found every single one of them was eager to brag and tell what they'd done. The hacker mindset seems to be that you want to brag about it.

      Understandably I guess, you feel really awesome when you've done something that (you think) few people can do.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    11. Re:Not possible. by Nyder · · Score: 1

      >> Chinese generic laptops very cheap here

      Plus they come preloaded with spyware.

      McAfee anti-virus?

      --
      Be seeing you...
    12. Re:Not possible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Selection bias. The hackers willing to be interviewed were eager to brag about being hackers. The others knew better.

    13. Re:Not possible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. And FBI profilers who deal with serial killers will tell you the same thing. They pretty much can't shut up.

    14. Re:Not possible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      y'know, let's call it "A New Technology Insuring Various Individuals (by) Removing Unsafe Software" :-)

    15. Re:Not possible. by dwye · · Score: 1

      Yep. And FBI profilers who deal with serial killers will tell you the same thing. They pretty much can't shut up.

      Serial killers presumably are operating under the burden of being (1) insane or sociopathic (2) already caught, so silence won't help, anymore.

  5. Possible alternative explanation by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Informative

    He might consider a new career as a movie producer — this blog post is fictional.

    FTFH?

    --
    systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
    1. Re:Possible alternative explanation by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I also started to wonder if the stuff is fictional.

    2. Re:Possible alternative explanation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seemed so fictional I only read the first page-worth. He kept talking about how awesome he was for having all these girls in his home and sleeping with them whenever. Remember this is on the Internet......

  6. Trusting anti-virus producers by maestroX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    After the rumours that av producers were also producing virii, at least this confirms McAfee antivirus cannot be trusted.
    No doubt J McAfee will explain his actions as totally justified and honourable.

    1. Re:Trusting anti-virus producers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Viruses. Also, 'virii' has an extra 'i' (if 'virus' was pluralized like that).

    2. Re:Trusting anti-virus producers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound silly for writing "virii". :D

    3. Re:Trusting anti-virus producers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you realize this is english, right?

    4. Re:Trusting anti-virus producers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Virii" was originally a joke, a hyper-Latinized ersatz plural meant to be used with tongue firmly in cheek.

      Then some Asperger's types took it seriously and actually started defending it as a legitimate form.

    5. Re:Trusting anti-virus producers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and 'viruses' is the correct form in English. Not 'virii'.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_form_of_words_ending_in_-us

    6. Re:Trusting anti-virus producers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      John McAfee hasn't owned, worked, or been involved with the company McAfee since he sold all his shares in 1994.

    7. Re:Trusting anti-virus producers by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      Unless it's for the Wii

    8. Re:Trusting anti-virus producers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So he would have you believe....

    9. Re:Trusting anti-virus producers by zippthorne · · Score: 0

      It can be virii if you're talking about the computer version. Computer people like to weird language with wacky prefixes and suffixes and conjugations and whatnot.

      Sometimes the inside jokes go too far, like using 2^10n as an approximation for 10^3n, which was ok for the small n of the 80s and early 90s, but is increasingly getting in the way of communication, but they are accepted jargon within the various circles and cliques.

      --
      Can you be Even More Awesome?!
    10. Re:Trusting anti-virus producers by dna_(c)(tm)(r) · · Score: 1

      Unless it's for the Wii

      I see, i own one Wus. Together we have two Wii.

  7. Please, McAfee, stop posting ./ puffery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    paysonwelch, just stop using that false name.

    We all know you're McAfee.

    Nobody else would his "his blog post [is] enthralling.". It's completely moronic, just from the excerpt and the headline alone.

    You're sounding like Homer Simpson chanting "I am so smart. S.M.R.T".

    1. Re:Please, McAfee, stop posting ./ puffery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should be checking your laptop for the signs of keylogger right now.

    2. Re:Please, McAfee, stop posting ./ puffery by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      It's the Norton Antivirus people sponsoring McAfee stories. Duh.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  8. Hmm by Gaygirlie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So, let me get this straight: John McAfee is the founding-father of a large anti-virus company, he's worked with Zonelabs on their firewall software and so on, and then in the end he ends up doing exactly the same thing he's tried to protect people from -- namely, installing keyloggers and spying on everything they type on their computers?

    1. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..., installing keyloggers and spying on everything they type on their computers?

      Yeah. And isn't that illegal?

      And I guess that makes him a criminal. So however you slice it, that guy should be criminally charged.

    2. Re:Hmm by CdBee · · Score: 5, Funny

      It was Ok though - he supplied McAfee AV on each of the laptops

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      I have been a user for about 10 years. This ends Feb 2014. The site's been ruined. I'm off. Dice, FU
    3. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      >So, let me get this straight.
      "Gaygirlie", you don't seem to have the best suited nick for the job.

      Anyway, the AV business is about making people pay to "secure windows". When did this not sound like a scam?

    4. Re:Hmm by Gaygirlie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      >So, let me get this straight.
      "Gaygirlie", you don't seem to have the best suited nick for the job.

      Touché, my dear, touché.

    5. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyway, are there really people out there dumb enough to accept a computer from ANY source and use it without completely reformatting it and reinstalling their own OS? Whether you got it from John McAffee personally or from Dell or from a shady guy on a street corner or your corner computer store, it doesn't matter. You always, always have to install your own OS, because who knows what sort of crap it might have on it otherwise.

    6. Re:Hmm by PRMan · · Score: 1

      Well, he does have expertise. Nice to see him stand up to a government that's mistreating him. Hopefully he gives some free laptops out in the US next.

      --
      Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
    7. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      better check the BIOS of those. He sounds like a seasoned IT pimp. If he had simply shut up and contacted CIA, I am sure they would have found some use for him. He could be a kingpin of the intelligence-industry-complex.

    8. Re:Hmm by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 1

      Don't you see? It's all a part of the plan. You will need a new license of McAfee anti-virus software to be able to protect yourself from these new pieces of surveillance malware. Norton will not do.

    9. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm guessing about 99.9 percent of people don't reinstall the OS after acquiring a computer.

    10. Re:Hmm by 14erCleaner · · Score: 1

      I sure hope he purchased 75 licenses for those keyloggers. Otherwise the SPA will be on him like a Bond woman on a corrupt Belizian official.

      --
      Have you read my blog lately?
    11. Re:Hmm by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 1

      I would say that's probably pretty accurate. People just unpackage the system, set it up, turn it on and use it. Furthermore, I wouldn't trust the OEM Windows re-installers either since they tend to just install all that OEM shit right back with the OS. That basically makes it a royal pain in the ass to reinstall Windows in trusted form on a modern computer without buying yet another license to the OS in the form of the official retail version.

    12. Re:Hmm by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing about 99.9 percent of people don't reinstall the OS after acquiring a computer.

      And yet that doesn't change the validity of the GP comment one whit.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    13. Re:Hmm by satuon · · Score: 1

      That's why I always install Linux with the encrypted home folder option checked.

    14. Re:Hmm by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 1

      Yeah... but I was taking into account the fact that if these people aren't even sophisticated enough to reinstall a copy of Windows, then they sure as hell won't know how anything about Linux.

    15. Re:Hmm by timeOday · · Score: 1

      You're looking for consistency in whether someone's actions might benefit you, and not finding it. Instead see if there is not consistency in the person's set of abilities, and willingness to take actions in their own self interest.

    16. Re:Hmm by poity · · Score: 1

      Knowledge isn't ethics; knowledge is power. I doubt he founded his AV company as a personal moral crusade, but did it like everybody else to make money in a niche in which he thought he could excel.

      --
      your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
    17. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't be so fast there. At least places where OLPC has been active (more Africa than Central America, from what I understand), the locals may be MUCH more familiar with Linux than Windows. Modern linux distributions are anything but hard to install on a system that has compatible hardware these days, arguably moreso than even going through the Windows installation process (when your LiveCD has a button that says "double click to install system"...). I wouldn't make this about operating system, more the thought to actually clean anything potentially on your disk before using it. Which now has me wishing there was a reasonable way to do this with my Android media player...and rooted Nook...

    18. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'crap' can exist outside the operating system as well. You could be using a system with a compromised BIOS as we speak. So how are you truly safe?

    19. Re:Hmm by hawk · · Score: 2

      More seriously, is there any reason to believe that he wouldn't do the same thing with the software he sells--the ultimate trojan on your machine . . .

      hawk

    20. Re:Hmm by AdamWill · · Score: 1

      "Anyway, are there really people out there dumb enough to accept a computer from ANY source and use it without completely reformatting it and reinstalling their own OS?"

      Yes. Hell, people have done studies where they left USB keys lying in the parking lots of major corporations. People happily took 'em inside, plugged them in and starting copying confidential data to them.

    21. Re:Hmm by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      That's not even the biggest thing.

      In the article he accused Iran/Hezbollah of planning a massive ricin gas attack in the US. He also accused the prime minister of Belize of ordering the murder of a prisoner (the actual murder did happen, that's been independently verified).

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    22. Re:Hmm by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Because he has nothing to do with McAfee the company anymore. He says he doesn't even like their software.....

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    23. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So, let me get this straight: John McAfee is the founding-father of a large anti-virus company, he's worked with Zonelabs on their firewall software and so on, and then in the end he ends up doing exactly the same thing he's tried to protect people from -- namely, installing keyloggers and spying on everything they type on their computers?

      FIRST OFF. it's widely belived that this is completely made up, and Copy pasted from wiki leaks espionage,and McAfee is a paranoid fruit cake from all the drugs he's done.

      but SECOND, Mcafee has not working with computer security for 20 years,

      and THIRD. so what? if anything that would be logical, as it's in a area where he is knowledgeable.

    24. Re:Hmm by Nyder · · Score: 1

      >So, let me get this straight.
      "Gaygirlie", ...

      I want a straight Gay Girl also...

      --
      Be seeing you...
    25. Re:Hmm by toiletsalmon · · Score: 1

      It's been my personal experience that "criminals" and "protectors" all come from, and live in, the same cloudy moral grey area.

    26. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you know he didn't do this while he was there, and if anyone helped, or worse that no-one caught it and it still remains in the code?

    27. Re:Hmm by hawk · · Score: 1

      Yeah, no reason to suspect he left back doors, given this other behavior . . .

      hawk

    28. Re:Hmm by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      He left the company 18 years ago. How much of his code do you really think they still use?

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  9. Please can we stop it with the John McAfee stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This first one was interesting but seriously; does Slashdot need to 're-blog' everything he says and does?

  10. If John could be so kind as to by nimbius · · Score: 3, Interesting

    explain how he sidestepped a murder charge from a soverign nation and has since remained unaccountable as to the history of his seventeen year old female companion and alleged methamphetamine production operation, I believe slashdot can finally put "the amazing adventures of John McAfee" back on the bookshelf.

    There is nothing about this entire series of unfortunate events that shouldnt warrant immediate extradition to Belize, where he can face his accusors in a court of law and presumably vindicate himself. Otherwise this is an indignant millionaires whitewash campaign to secure his innocence through astroturf and puffery. Unfortunately Mr McAfee wasnt found accused of these crimes in say, the Soviet Union or China, both countries willing to mail a dead millionaire back to his respective embassy for nothing short of a Benny-Hill approach to their criminal justice system.

    --
    Good people go to bed earlier.
    1. Re:If John could be so kind as to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Uhmm yeah. Thanks for your Langley-sourced propaganda. Last time I checked, Russia poloniumed emigrated ex-KGB members for disloyalty, not the random foreign billionaire-politician.
      See what the CIA, SIS, Security Service and the Israeli security establishment did to their defectors/dissidents. Once a CIA man, forever a CIA man, I assume. Now replace CIA by KGB, FSB, SIS, MOSSAD and so on. Still true.

    2. Re:If John could be so kind as to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As I wouldnt particularly trust any western court to vindicate me on minor issues I think a man who has royally pissed of the powers that be in a 2nd world country is wise to stay as far away from "justice" as he possibly can. The only difference between multinational corporate bully boys and sovereign nations is that one thinks its above the law and lets everyone know it, while the other knows its above the law and would rather people thought otherwise.

      This is why we have a man who had consentual sex with two women, and then was told specifically by a cheif prosecutor he had no case to answer and was free to leave the country holed up in a london embassy being painted as a fugitive rapist on the run from the "law"

    3. Re:If John could be so kind as to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He wasn't formally charged, he was just a person of interest that they wanted to question.

    4. Re:If John could be so kind as to by stenvar · · Score: 1

      explain how he sidestepped a murder charge from a soverign nation

      I don't believe he was ever charged with murder. They wanted him for questioning, which is not extraditable by itself.

    5. Re:If John could be so kind as to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is when your name is Julian Assange ;)

    6. Re:If John could be so kind as to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err, as for the murder, he was wanted for questioning, not as a suspect (no extradition there). There's nothing remotely solid (legally anyway) on the drug matters. And 17 is above the age of consent in Belize. Any REAL reason in there you see for extraditing someone? I'd sure hope that the US hadn't added frivolous extradition of it's own citizens to it's list of bad habits...

    7. Re:If John could be so kind as to by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      explain how he sidestepped a murder charge from a soverign nation

      It was really easy. He was never charged with murder. That's why he hasn't been extradited either, because there isn't even a warrant for his arrest.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    8. Re:If John could be so kind as to by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      They wanted him for questioning, which is not extraditable by itself.

      It is when your name is Julian Assange

      Extradition isn't a matter of common universal norms, its a matter of particular treaties between particular countries, and the extradition treaty between the US and Belize is, surprisingly enough, not the one that governed Sweden seeking the extradition of Julian Assange from the UK.

    9. Re:If John could be so kind as to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so much stupid in one post. It's as if all the facts decided to leave and you have nothing left but opinions

    10. Re:If John could be so kind as to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Julian Assange would disagree with that statement!

  11. McAfee is not a drug addict by dnaumov · · Score: 3, Informative

    As someone who knows many drug addicts and used to be one himself over 15 years ago: John McAfee's blog is not the writing of a drug addict. Either he is as clear from drugs as he says he is or he has someone else write the stuff for him.

    1. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Jaysyn · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know, Philip K. Dick or Hunter S. Thompson could have wrote that in their sleep. :D

      Hell, it reads almost like one of Dick's short stories.

      --
      There is a war going on for your mind.
    2. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by arth1 · · Score: 1

      As someone who knows many drug addicts and used to be one himself over 15 years ago: John McAfee's blog is not the writing of a drug addict. Either he is as clear from drugs as he says he is or he has someone else write the stuff for him.

      Yes, cause all drug users are obviously the same.
      Just because he doesn't write like Hunter S. Thompson, Jack Kerouac or Horselover Fat doesn't mean he's not on drugs.

    3. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would not be surprised to learn he has episodes of extended non-use. But of course he is living a truely crap life, apparently having sex with hundreds of different women of very shaky morals. Call me a puritan, but I would just point out that STDs can be very, very nasty.

    4. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Most heavy drug users (i.e. addicts) I've known have written like complete and total crap while on drugs, I suspect that's what dnaumov means. Depending on the drug we're talking writing which is more garbled than an Irishman's speech after two bottles of whisky and plenty of beer or with substances simply an inability to write anything coherent (if you've ever chatted with someone on a massive dose of any serious hallucinogen you should know what I'm talking about, their spelling might be perfect but either order of the words or their choice of words is all wrong or each sentence seems to be completely unrelated to the next).

      If McAfee really is really hooked on stimulants/euphorics (like for example Mephedrone, one of the more common substances found in so-called "bath salts") then I'd expect his writing to be a lot less sane. Not the content, the actual writing.

    5. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Psyborgue · · Score: 1

      Jack Kerouac, Baudelaire and Dumas also... There are tons.

    6. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then use a condom.

    7. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think it is free of risk to touch a Belizian whore even while wearing a condom. Where I live, whores must check with the local health authorities for STD screening/testing in regular intervals. Still, condoms are required.

    8. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by goodmanj · · Score: 1

      Just something to think about for the future: that was a great post up until the moment you threw in the disgusting stereotype about drunk irishmen. If you'd just left out that phrase, I'd be thinking to myself "hunh, what an insightful comment" rather than "christ, look at this racist twat."

    9. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Larryish · · Score: 0

      Shut up and have another beer, Danny.

      If I had a face like yours, I'd join the British Army.

    10. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      It was not meant as a "racial stereotype", it was a comment on the particular accent that people from Ireland tend to have (not all of them but very many) which quite frankly has a tendency to sound garbled if said person from Ireland has had enough to drink that his or her speech has become slurred.

      The fact that you had to turn that into "ZOMG RACIST!!1" says a lot about you. As for why I picked that example? I have several Irish friends (real Irish, not Boston Irish) who are great examples of this and it's a running joke between them that all it takes is a couple of beers and they are completely unable to communicate with anyone who isn't Irish.

    11. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by charlesbakerharris · · Score: 1

      If he's getting it on with that many women, may I suggest condomS? Using the same one over and over might not get the results he's hoping for.

    12. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Psyborgue · · Score: 2

      I lived in Ireland for three years. By US standards, they're mostly all alcoholics (by their standards, we're prudes). After work it's customary to go to the pub and it's not looked down upon to get drunk, even to the point of throwing up. I don't even think the Irish are bothered by the stereotype. It's just their culture. Nothing racist about it.

    13. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      You're just stupid, nothing more.

      I myself as well as a few people I know have/were drug addicts to the extreme and were perfectly capable of hiding it from direct relation sometimes even those that lived with us. Hell I did it for years by just being 'discrete' about it and it wasn't until I brought it up that other people found out I did drugs even though I was pretty much high the entire time I was around them for YEARS.

      Just because you are unable to function and be a drug addict doesn't mean the rest of us are as slow as you are.

      I assure you, I could be sober or stoned off my ass on various different drugs and you'd never know.

      --
      Persistent Volume manager for Kubernetes - https://github.com/dwimsey/openshift-pvmanager
    14. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by H0p313ss · · Score: 2

      It's just their culture. Nothing racist about it.

      Q: "Why did God create Whisky?"
      A: "To prevent the Irish from taking over the world."

      --
      XML is a known as a key material required to create SMD: Software of Mass Destruction
    15. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by goodmanj · · Score: 0

      Racist. Twat.

      Bonus racist points for "I can't be racist, I have Irish friends!"

    16. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Hentes · · Score: 1

      So what, he uses spellchecking. The actual content is still complete lunacy.

    17. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Nyder · · Score: 1

      As someone who knows many drug addicts and used to be one himself over 15 years ago: John McAfee's blog is not the writing of a drug addict. Either he is as clear from drugs as he says he is or he has someone else write the stuff for him.

      No, he's probably not a drug addict. But he seems pretty obvious he has fried his brain. Did this drub usage lead to his current situation? Seems very likely. We got paranoia, we got delusions. Using drugs doesn't make you addict.

      I remember when designer drugs started raising there head in the late 80's. I took acid and MDA all the time then. My buddy started to get some "new" designer drug, my memory says it's what got called Special K later, but I've taken a lot of drugs, so I can't say if it was. But the point is, my buddy started getting really paranoid and delusional about shit after he kept taking the stuff. We got him to stop and he finally maybe got back to normal (only to turn in to a basehead later (freebase, before crack reared it's head). But it goes to show, you don't know what you are doing to yourself with these "designer" drugs, or using weird substances to get "high".

      --
      Be seeing you...
    18. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      I can't be racist, I get drunk with my Irish friends.

      --
      And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
    19. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by metlin · · Score: 1

      I don't know, Philip K. Dick or Hunter S. Thompson could have wrote that in their sleep. :D

      Written, not wrote. It's rather important to be grammatically correct when you're talking about... writing.

    20. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody is talking here grammar nazi. So you fucked up too.

    21. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it goes to show, you don't know what you are doing to yourself with these "designer" drugs, or using weird substances to get "high".

      Your point...what is it?
      You don't know what you are doing to yourself even if you use "regular" drugs.
      Unless you're a chemist and a biologist and a brain surgeon?

    22. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drugs not all same. Some fuck you up. Prescription drugs. Twitter. Coffee was banned in Soviet Union, known as a psychotic.

      Darling can you e-mail me if I forgot to post as AC? Thanks dear.

    23. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      I took it as an allusion to 'Finnegan's Wake'. Famously incoherent writing. Fans can find what they want in it, like people looking at clouds.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    24. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Popeil Galactic Prophylactic: It's more than a contraceptive, it's a family heirloom!

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    25. Re:McAfee is not a drug addict by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Crack rolled thru most of the USA in 83-85.

      Don't even look at what they are doing today. Google 'test chems'.

      Every six months a new legal analog. All completely untested. It's only a matter of time. Crazy kids, at least acid was tested by millions of hippies. You know it's not 'safe' but it's not going to give you Parkinson's.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  12. Sounds rather self-incriminating to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or not?

    I mean spyware on other people's computers sounds pretty criminal to me.

    1. Re:Sounds rather self-incriminating to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh my fucking Langley God. Sounds like a catholic nun as compared to what USG does on a regular basis. Bitch Clinton did not just demand collection of fingerprints, she ordered DNA and credit card numbers of essentially every foreign diplomat her people got in touch with to be collected.

      Now the US intel/security apparatus shits bricks about DNA of O'Bomba being collected and used to create a "custom virus designed to kill just the Sucker In Chief".

      Think about how much insanity you want, Americans. Sometimes less is better than more.

    2. Re:Sounds rather self-incriminating to me... by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 2

      Hey, they were free gifts to those people given one. And no one forced any of them to just trust it and not manually wipe and re-install a known clean OS.

    3. Re:Sounds rather self-incriminating to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, the Americans learned from the best: European spy agencies. And the Europeans are still as much up to these tricks as ever, you just don't hear as much about it because they are better at it.

    4. Re:Sounds rather self-incriminating to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I seriously think nobody on the globe thought about "custom killer virus designed to hit specific person" until America came up with that idea. Most European nations are just too broken they can spend money on this kind of pathological fantasies.

      A sniper with a rifle in Dallas, though...

    5. Re:Sounds rather self-incriminating to me... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Self-incrimination is the next "Big Thing" in the Internet. Commit a crime, and then post a video about it on YouTube or Facebook. Some notable examples:
      The kids teasing the bus lady.
      High school football players bragging about raping an unconscious teenage girl.
      Drunk driver hit and run.
      And now the McGaffster himself.

      If this trend continues, it will make police work easier. Forget expensive DNA analysis and detective work. Just search for confessions on the Internet.

      Now, if these confessions are submittable as evidence . . . will be an interesting legal question.

      --
      Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
    6. Re:Sounds rather self-incriminating to me... by Pandare · · Score: 1

      It's already covered. Generally speaking in the US, out of court, uncoerced statements are admissible at trial. Such a statement counts as what is called a "party admission," and is usable by an adverse party (in a criminal case, the prosecution).

    7. Re:Sounds rather self-incriminating to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF is your point? Self-incrimination isn't some magic spell you cast that protects you from something you said or posted that incriminates you. It simply states that they can't force you to incriminate yourself. If you already have you are on your own.
      These confessions are very much evidence.

    8. Re:Sounds rather self-incriminating to me... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Many Arabs believe Israel has a virus that kills only Arabs. They've believed that sense well before gene sequencing. Must be the same lab that made HIV.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  13. deport? by globaljustin · · Score: 1

    He probably has been in trouble for a long time...or at least running with a bad crowd.

    It will catch up to him, but I don't know if there is any reason to deport him.

    As far as his blog ("TFA") goes, it could be anything. Maybe he thinks he's been working for a gov't...maybe he thinks he's above international law...

    --
    Thank you Dave Raggett
    1. Re:deport? by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      John McAfee is no Chuck Barris

      --

      the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  14. Confesses do illegally monitoring people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Monitoring powerful people?

    Either he's delusional or a criminal, and either way he's being pretty stupid. I wish the guy would get some help -- medical or legal -- and then shut the hell up.

    1. Re:Confesses do illegally monitoring people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could very well be that all of this is the work of a powerful, highly intelligent fantasy. Sounds too much like Tom Clancy.

      Now, if it is all or mostly fantasy, what is the objective ? Does he want to smear Belize to make the case "you cannot extradite me to this kind of shitty country ?"

      Or maybe, this is just a marketing campaign for his upcoming book "McAfee's adventures in a lawless country full of gorgeous sluts and terrorists. 29.95 on Amazon"

      But then, he is connected to wired.com, a known propaganda agent for Zion, CIA and the war industry. Maybe there is much more to McAfee than we know. Maybe he has a "black" history of computer intrusion operations for USG. He also seems to be versed in Humint by sex. Of course, a long shot on my side....

  15. LOL, what next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A hollow wooden horse? How stupid are these people? I understand if we we're talking about hardware bugs but software???

    Then again, most people run on their computer what ever the vendor installed for them... incredible.

    1. Re:LOL, what next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Based on the number of IT fuckups of the richest government of the globe, a truly shoddy state of Belize government IT would be entirely rational to assume. German intel recently read all the emails of the Afghan government by means of hacking. And the BND certainly is not he most capable service out there.

  16. This seems pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would anyone want intelligence on what the Belize elite is up to? Why bother? They are simply not that interesting.

  17. Murder suspect by burni2 · · Score: 1

    Even that one can think that the Belize authorities are corrupt, but a man (his neighbour) was killed and John Mcafee is/was the main suspect
    but everything that slashdot publishes are the desperados-like yet successful attempts of John Mcafee to prevent from being captured and to stand trail.

    And why does he publishes these details now, if he is innocent and this is all a conspiracy against him, he could have used these spying capabilities to bust the scam and reveal the real killers with live audio.

    When he has such proof of such a conspiracy, he should compile it into a report and release it to the public leaving away his personality issues.
    Just clear facts.

    1. Re:Murder suspect by Gaygirlie · · Score: 1

      he could have used these spying capabilities to bust the scam and reveal the real killers with live audio.

      Why do you so naively assume that he knows who the real killers are?

  18. Oh, no that wasn't very risky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fact that it phoned home to him didn't pose any serious risk of getting caught for spying on government officials. Is he smart? No, he is an ass who was just lucky to get away with it.

    1. Re:Oh, no that wasn't very risky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are (easy) effectively untracable ways to phone home. E.g. phone home to a server that you've hacked, then download the resulting files using a prepaid SIM. If it's more data, find an open wifi. The only hope the police has is to catch you in-person.

      This is the basic stuff, assuming that you're using very direct ways of communicating with yourself. Inserting other protocols in the mix is easy, and can make things much harder to trace. SMTP, IRC (irc via webchat), NNTP, DNS, ICMP, all sorts of instant messaging protocols, skype, ... all can be trivially used to send information and will work on most networks (except NNTP these days, although ...). All but SMTP will effectively bypass any scrutiny. Another trivial way to bypass scrutiny : HTTPS. Since the high ups want access to their webbanking, this is almost always opened (I've been on "secret" government networks that allowed https out, only logging where it connected to). If it's opened by idiots the web proxy has blanket allows for CONNECT requests.

      And you don't have to design all this yourself, code that works very well is in easy reach.

    2. Re:Oh, no that wasn't very risky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't expect much real "security" in a third-world country.

      The best method in my opinion is to use google mail or google docs as a data exfiltration method. Even in the west many "IT security professionals" are stupid enough to automatically classify that as legitimate traffic. Plus, lots of people use gmail.

      I currently work for a major globo-corp and we can do gmail without any man-in-the-middle attack at the firewall. I could exfiltrate gigabytes of product-related data per day. Security By Muppets.

  19. Hacker by Faisal+Rehman · · Score: 0

    The way he show up in news proves that he is hacker.

  20. Re:Please can we stop it with the John McAfee stor by jones_supa · · Score: 1

    Sure, why not. At least I want to see how this crazy story continues.

  21. Dead founder of Webroot, Steven Thomas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy sounded way more interesting, yet how many people heard about it? There are several news articles remaining on the web about him. I once dug far enough to find something about him needing to build something higher up than he was at the time, and more involving aliens and the military.

    Google his name and search for yourself. Was it really a mental disorder or something more?

    Dead founder of Webroot, Steven Thomas, more interesting
    ------------------------

    Search Continues For Missing Millionaire

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/search-continues-for-missing-millionaire

    "The last time I saw him on Thursday, he was having major panic attacks. He was very agitated, aggressive. He was very paranoid. He thinks everyone on the island is out to get him," said his wife, Candis Thomas. "He thinks the military is involved, he thinks that aliens are involved, and he's just been in a real delusion state of being fearful."

    "He said he needed to use the bathroom, but never returned. At the time he was wearing a light-green T-shirt, shorts and slippers."

    ##

    Missing Webroot founder found dead
    Tragic end in Hawaii

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/14/webroot_founder_dead/

    "Police have recovered the body of missing technology entrepreneur Steven Thomas, the founder of anti-spyware firm Webroot Software[1]."

    "Thomas was reportedly suffering from paranoid delusions running up to the time of his disappearance."

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webroot
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Thomas_(entrepreneur)

    "he did send a letter to his closest friends that if he turned up missing or dead it was not his fault."

    ##

    http://www.lavasoft.com/mylavasoft/company/blog/in-our-thoughts

    ##

    Millionaireâ(TM)s falling death âis beyond sadâ(TM)

    http://archives.starbulletin.com/2008/07/15/news/story03.html

    "Hikers found the badly decomposed body of the Lanikai resident, who was reported to have a bipolar disorder, at 12:45 p.m. Sunday below the Pali Lookout, nearly two weeks after his disappearance."

    "Police have not yet ruled out foul play, Maj. Alan Bluemke said yesterday, although he emphasized no foul play was suspected. The case remains classified as an unattended death, pending the full medical examiner's report.

    According to his wife, Thomas began developing problems in April, had been arrested for running naked in his neighborhood and was diagnosed later with bipolar disorder, also called manic-depressive illness, but had refused medication.

    Police had described Thomas as emotionally distraught, and his wife had said he had been displaying suicidal behavior.

    Thomas had been involved in real estate and stocks after selling Webroot Software, known for its Spy Sweeper software, in 2004 for $108 million."

    ##

    Mysterious events surround death of former FOUNDER of the company WEBROOT â" GOOGLE about the former FOUNDER of the company WEBROOT, Steven Thomas.

    Maybe he was onto something? You have to read many articles about him to get a better picture of how odd the events were surrounding his death. Webroot Software founder Steven Thomas was found dead in Hawaii. Save the articles and store them off-line on read only media because the stories will disappear eventually.

    Many articles mention he said he was being harassed by ALIENS and THE GOVERNMENT, and others.

    Sounds like MKULtra to me.

    ##

    Webroot founder died from fall

    1. Re:Dead founder of Webroot, Steven Thomas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now the simple explanation is that many people do "too much computers". It can royally fuck up the brain. Just look at those playing 18 hours a day, weeks at a time World of Warcraft and then need serious time in psychiatric ward.

      Actually, I do think McAfee als has some of these problems.

      We all computer users should watch ourselves and our relation to the non-virtual world.

  22. Poor Intel by mseeger · · Score: 1

    The brand name McAfee is getting thoroughly trashed. Now all that remains from the purchase is a bloated digital placebo software.

  23. Free Tools page more interesting! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://www.mcafee.com/us/downloads/free-tools/index.aspx

    "McAfee is committed to your security and provides an assortment of free McAfee tools to help in your software development. Simply select a tool and download it for free."

    You may remember most of these tools as coming from Foundstone:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundstone

    "Foundstone is a practice within McAfee Professional Services that provides tactical and strategic computer security services."

    "Although Foundstone is owned by McAfee, it stays vendor neutral in order to remain impartial in its services."

  24. McAfee Has keylogers in it that phones home by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    McAfee Has keylogers in it that phones home that must be why it's so slow.

  25. Acapulco Kevin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been writing about this from the beginning of this ignorance.
    I do not believe a single word that comes out of John McAfee's pie hole. He wants to distract people from the fact that he was molesting children in Belize, was cooking Bath Salts and probably killed his neighbor. The man is not a folk hero, he is the man you want to protect your children from.
    http://john-mcafee.blogspot.com/

  26. Hezbollah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I stopped reading after he got into terrorism. If any of this were remotely true he could have called the FBI and CIA and they would have gotten him out of Belize in a heartbeat just to take control of all his spies and keylogging network. Enough with the "jokes" John.

  27. no wonder by stenvar · · Score: 1

    And McAfee wonders why the Belize government is out to get him? This kind of crime easily would carry a very long prison sentence in most countries.

    1. Re:no wonder by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      and a 9mm Pill in a few others

  28. Why is nobody stating the obvious? by dills · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is clearly bullshit.

    At every turn, he attaches quantities to resources:

    75 cheap laptops
    23 women
    6 men
    8 of the women lived with him
    2 people in the Nicaraguan Hezbollah camp
    3 people in Mexico dealing with the Zetas

    The only "evidence" supporting his story are his "so easy to fake my kids could it" screenshots and audio files.

    I think the original assessment stands: This is a guy who has snorted waaaay too much MPDV, is seeing shadow men in bushes, and killed his neighbor in retaliation for his neighbor killing his dog.

    He escaped the country via a combination of his charisma, money, and the ineptitude of the Belize law enforcement.

    This is all just a retroactive attempt at explaining why the Belize government would want to frame him. Look, it's simple...why would Belize kill his neighbor to frame McAfee, when they could simply just kill McAfee instead?

    Paranoid bullshit, and so obviously so.

    1. Re:Why is nobody stating the obvious? by jones_supa · · Score: 0

      Yeah.

    2. Re:Why is nobody stating the obvious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hezbollah and Zeta connection has been out in the news long ago.http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/lebanese-drug-lord-charged-in-us-links-to-zetas-and-hezbollah/

        It's not exactly new stuff...

    3. Re:Why is nobody stating the obvious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Look, it's simple...why would Belize kill his neighbor to frame McAfee, when they could simply just kill McAfee instead?

      No the conjecture is they killed his neighbor accidentally thinking it was him.

    4. Re:Why is nobody stating the obvious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's very true. The true way to do it is far more elaborate of which brazilian government is not capable of, as well he's not either.

    5. Re:Why is nobody stating the obvious? by dcigary · · Score: 1

      How did he have time to hang out next to the pool with the 9 hot babes, do mounds of MPDV, and plot his exit from the country when he was running such a big spy network?

      And if any of this tirade is true, how did he get back into the USA....alive?

      Occam has a big razor. The guy's nuts.

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  29. He installed McAffee AV on those notebooks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or what kind of key-loggers did he use?

    rotfl...

  30. sceenshots with a camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like he used a camera to take the screenshots ;)
    John, there are easier ways.

  31. He puts super perv powder up his by Ranger · · Score: 1

    butt.

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  32. Look a gift laptop in the mouth by fruitbane · · Score: 1

    So, the real lesson here is not to accept and technological gifts from a security guru. Gee, thanks!

    1. Re:Look a gift laptop in the mouth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No the lesson is to accept them, then wipe out the windows install with your OS of choice. Also watch out for the women/men who are out of your league suddenly turning up a being willing to sleep with you. (I can find the cheap laptops, the latter I'm not so sure where to go for.)

    2. Re:Look a gift laptop in the mouth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or accept it and then install Linux on it. However, doesn't help if the person successfully hacked the bios or hardware to spy on you. Maybe you need to install a new bios and check the hardware inside to make sure its stock hardware too. Now that might be too much work, so guess better off not accepting the free laptop then.

  33. One word: paranoia! by rvw · · Score: 1

    Megalomania. Is that in the DSM? Ah, wiki says no, it's a type of narcissistic personality disorder.

    How about paranoia!

  34. There is no murder (or other) charge yet by DragonWriter · · Score: 5, Informative

    explain how he sidestepped a murder charge from a soverign nation

    He didn't. He is a person of interested wanted for questioning, not a charged criminal. If he was a charged criminal, fleeing to the US wouldn't help, as the US has an extradition treaty with Belize that provides for the extradition of criminals charged with any of a wide array of crimes, including, naturally, as #1 on the list, murder.

    There is nothing about this entire series of unfortunate events that shouldnt warrant immediate extradition to Belize

    You mean, other than the fact that Belize hasn't criminally charged him with anything, much less anything subject to the extradition treaty with the US?

    Unfortunately Mr McAfee wasnt found accused of these crimes in say, the Soviet Union or China

    Or, for that matter, anywhere else. Because he hasn't actually been charged with any crimes, anywhere.

    1. Re:There is no murder (or other) charge yet by mortonda · · Score: 1

      explain how he sidestepped a murder charge from a soverign nation

      He didn't. He is a person of interested wanted for questioning, not a charged criminal. If he was a charged criminal, fleeing to the US wouldn't help, as the US has an extradition treaty with Belize that provides for the extradition of criminals charged with any of a wide array of crimes, including, naturally, as #1 on the list, murder.

      .. and after posting this to his blog, he has a rather strong argument that he would be the victim of political persecution if sent back, so I would highly question whether we would send him back even if they did press charges.

    2. Re:There is no murder (or other) charge yet by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      .. and after posting this to his blog, he has a rather strong argument that he would be the victim of political persecution if sent back

      After posting this, there's certainly a number of additional crimes in Belize (including a variety of frauds and acts of bribery that would seem to fall squarely within the scope of the extradition treaty) for which he has provided evidence -- in the form of a public admission -- against himself. As well as, I suspect, a number of violations of US law which have extraterritorial application. And since he has accused the US government of being in league with Belize in the posts, I doubt he was won much leverage with the US authorities with the posting.

    3. Re:There is no murder (or other) charge yet by jrumney · · Score: 1

      After posting this, there's certainly a number of additional crimes in Belize (including a variety of frauds and acts of bribery that would seem to fall squarely within the scope of the extradition treaty) for which he has provided evidence -- in the form of a public admission -- against himself.

      Doesn't evidence have to be credible to be accepted in a US court? Even for extradition hearings. The only body of credible evidence I see being built up on McAfee's blog is evidence for an insanity plea in any future charges he may face.

    4. Re:There is no murder (or other) charge yet by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      yes but he has just admitted to hacking a number government officials which sort of makes that easy.

    5. Re:There is no murder (or other) charge yet by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      Doesn't evidence have to be credible to be accepted in a US court?

      No, it needs to be legally admissible. Credibility is assessed by the jury or court (depending on the type of proceeding) after the evidence has been accepted. (Some assessment of probative value -- which relates to credibility -- may be made by the court in determining admissibility if there is a challenge to admissibility on some grounds, because probative value is a factor which weighs against certain bases for inadmissibility.)

  35. Precis by smugfunt · · Score: 3, Informative
    To summarise:
    After the GSU raid on McAfee's Orange Walk compound he decided to go on the offensive.
    He gave away 75 cheap laptops complete with keyloggers and backdoors to key people in the GOB. He backed these up with human spies.
    Things he claims or implies to have discovered:
    • Prime Minister Dean Barrow ordered the murder of Arthur Young, an uppity Belize City gang leader who died in police custody last year. channel 5
    • Minister John Saldivar heads an operation smuggling Lebanese Hezbollah operatives into the US. 10 per month. (One was caught in Mexico last year: channel 7)
    • Hezbollah have a base in Nicaragua where they are mass producing ricin.
    • Hezbollah are using the Zetas to smuggle the ricin into the US.
    1. Re:Precis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      • Prime Minister Dean Barrow ordered the murder of Arthur Young, an uppity Belize City gang leader who died in police custody last year. channel 5
      • Minister John Saldivar heads an operation smuggling Lebanese Hezbollah operatives into the US. 10 per month. (One was caught in Mexico last year: channel 7)
      • Hezbollah have a base in Nicaragua where they are mass producing ricin.
      • Hezbollah are using the Zetas to smuggle the ricin into the US.

      OK, this seriously reminds me of a couple of Mission Impossible episodes. Any Leonard Nimoy fanboys care to comment???

    2. Re:Precis by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Most of those are independently verifiable except for the small details (the exact person who did it, for example). We know Arthur Young was killed, and we know Hezbollah operatives are being smuggled to the US, and that Iran has ties to Mexican gangs. Naming those people will likely cause problems for them inside their own country, but nothing more.

      The biggest thing here is that Iran/Hezbollah is sneaking manufacturing ricin and bringing it into the US for an attack. If he's right, we're either going to see another terrorist attack soon (despite the heroism of the TSA), or we're going to see a massive arrest of terrorists possessing sarin. 10 people at a time is a LOT.

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    3. Re:Precis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The heroism of the TSA"...... lol

    4. Re:Precis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he's short on international politics, since AFAIK the Hezbollah - apart for being such a beautiful hollywoodian villain - carefully held itself out of any war action against america outside Leban...

  36. Turning out to be interesting by BlkRb0t · · Score: 1

    Whatever it is, fictional or fact, his blog posts are turning out to be far interesting than anything else I've read in the past few months.

  37. One word. by hey! · · Score: 2

    Asshole.

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  38. the story is a bit more complicated. in the 80s by decora · · Score: 2

    the rise of the 'computer virus' was not as clean cut as we remember it. there were people who actively 'played' the 'news cycle' of the day to promote the idea of huge virus attacks. McAfee was just another one of these.

    The problems come when some people start wondering --- where exactly did the viruses come from in the first place. Now there is no evidence that McAfee wrote viruses or spread malware --- but here we can see that he has no moral qualms about doing it. Hence - his entire 80s business was not built around protecting people, it was about something else (making money? technical challenge?).

    The other parts of his history are as interesting - look up the Pow Wow software, where was involved in the creation of a corporation run by Native Americans, including it in marketing materials on the website. Turns out there were no natives on the dev team nor on the management nor anywhere else. IT was likely just for a tax break or maybe just plain old racism.

    John's next feat was to become a 'spiritual adviser' and he wrote several new age books under a fake name. He would charge people huge sums of money to come be 'spiritual' with him at his retreat.

    So .... to some this latest twist might be gob smacking. To others, its just fucking John being a fucking sociopath. And the thing about sociopaths? They never change.

    1. Re:the story is a bit more complicated. in the 80s by Nyder · · Score: 1

      . And the thing about sociopaths? They never change.

      The age of jailbait doesn't seem to change either. Must be a connection.

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  39. Vírusok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there, boy.

  40. Where is the CIA in this??? by hawk · · Score: 1

    > I think a man who has royally pissed of the powers
    >that be in a 2nd world country is wise to stay as far
    >away from "justice" as he possibly can.

    Where is the CIA in all this? And the Navy?

    How did Belize fall into the Soviet sphere of influence? I thought the Monroe Doctrine was quite clear on US use of force in such matters . . .

    hawk

    1. Re:Where is the CIA in this??? by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      The US is currently headed by people intent on its destruction. Nothing can be depended on.

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    2. Re:Where is the CIA in this??? by hawk · · Score: 1

      Sure, but the second world was down to North Korea and Cuba.

      Now we've got another in the Americas?

  41. Can't Wait for the Movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't wait for the movie.

  42. Ya pretty much by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can believe in corrupt police framing people, heck we've seen them do it across the globe. I can believe in corrupt police murdering people, again, we've seen it. But why would they murder someone, to frame someone else? That seems like a "supervillian" move, meaning needlessly complex to achieve the actual goal. Just murder the person you want killed and be done with it.

    There is just no credibility to this guy.

    Also, as a practical matter, if what he says about all this information grabbing is true, he's probably guilty of a bunch of computer crimes in Belize too. He certainly would be in the US. You can't just go and keylog people because you want to.

    1. Re:Ya pretty much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe McApe offended someone important, but that guy does not simply want to knock over Americans. Especially those with money. His peers could get pissed and an aircraft carrier could show up and disturb the life of McBelize TinPot In Chief.

      So he thought "let's stick a murder case to that rich American and let him rot in jail. Americans will agree with us."

      Yeah, my theory.

  43. you only hear about blabbers by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is one of the places where the story rings false. Given any 30 people involved in full-time spying on dozens of other people, it is _inevitable_ that at least one of them would notify the police of this operation. Not only because the activity is illegal

    You only hear about the cases where people blab...

    Also: people blab when it's in their perceived interests. If you live in a country where leadership is bumping off political protesters, there is much less self interest in admitting that you've been helping some rich American engage in espionage. The problem with being brutal and corrupt is that a)it makes people hate you b)it is excellent incentive to not blab about things you're doing against the government.

    There also can be plenty of blabbing, just not to anyone who is in power or those associated with them. Information doesn't flow freely - it tends to be like the ocean, with thermoclines representing class/power levels, political affiliation, religion, language, etc. Damn near everyone in a city who works as an office cleaner could know that Joe Big Bank Executive is banging his secretary after-hours, for example.

    An even better example would probably be DC. I bet there's all sorts of bullshit that everyone in political/diplomatic circles in DC knows about, but your average person off the street doesn't.

    1. Re:you only hear about blabbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What?

      Like wierdo surveillance blimps being deployed over washington for a week randomly prior to an unspecified-use large order for same?

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58995-2004Sep29.html

    2. Re:you only hear about blabbers by cduffy · · Score: 1

      An even better example would probably be DC. I bet there's all sorts of bullshit that everyone in political/diplomatic circles in DC knows about, but your average person off the street doesn't.

      That reminds me -- one of my former coworkers (a computational linguistics specialist) used to live next door to Bush Sr's mistress. She described her neighbor's station as something everybody knew, but which there was a tacit agreement not to discuss.

  44. I always thought... by ebcdic · · Score: 2

    ... that the people with the most interest in putting malware on computers were the very same people who sold you software to remove it. So I don't find this in the least surprising.

  45. Time for a CIA Drone attack. by BitZtream · · Score: 0, Troll

    Please? Can we just kill him and be done with this useless bag of shit?

    As near as I can tell, never in his life has he actually been a useful member of society. Thats not a crime in and of itself of course, but he actively goes out of his way to show examples of why he shouldn't be permitted to waste oxygen and water resources.

    This is a prime example of when a drone strike should be permitted on a US citizen.

    I'd say just execute him in a normal way, but his flamboyant behavior deserves a proportional removal from the planet. Just shooting or hanging him would be an unfitting end.

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    1. Re:Time for a CIA Drone attack. by Omnifarious · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would like to extend the mandate for drone killings to people who decide that people should be killed because they're irritating.

    2. Re:Time for a CIA Drone attack. by Nyder · · Score: 1

      I would like to extend the mandate for drone killings to people who decide that people should be killed because they're irritating.

      You irritate me.

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    3. Re:Time for a CIA Drone attack. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck yeah

    4. Re:Time for a CIA Drone attack. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And as a side effect it would solve the worlds overpopulation problems.

    5. Re:Time for a CIA Drone attack. by Omnifarious · · Score: 1

      When are you sending a drone to attack me?

  46. one word by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

    Nut Job

    May I suggest "pervert" as an alternative?

  47. Can't wait for the movie... by raftpeople · · Score: 4, Funny

    starring Gary Buse as John McAfee

    1. Re:Can't wait for the movie... by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      ROFLMAO, yeah Gary Busey would be great for the part, either that or Nick Nolte. What amazes me about this case more and more is that somebody in authority, either than the government of Belize, would just have him submit to a psychiatric evaluation or have him committed as a nut job. He has enough money I'm sure they could get Dr. Phil to go take a whack at it.

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    2. Re:Can't wait for the movie... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol!!

  48. Is it real? You never know. by mveloso · · Score: 1

    You can't discount this stuff just because you don't believe it's possible that one man and his team could have dug all this stuff up. Motivated individuals can do quite a lot, if they have lots and lots of time, money, and focus. Apparently he has all three.

    A lot of stuff here could cause problems for Belize, but really, the big problem for McAfee is he's now a bona-fide target. Before, he was just some pain in the ass. Now he's probably become a target of opportunity. Depending on how this plays in Belize, he might even be upgraded to active removal.

    It must be fun working for him...until the hammer comes down.

  49. Hebollah by SplashMyBandit · · Score: 0

    Prepare your tinfoil hat dudes because lots of pieces of information are starting to come together.

    If we take McAfee's findings as true (which they appear to be) then Iran is preparing the capability of conducting a massive chemical attack on the United States. I will now present the threads of evidence for you to consider.

    • Motivation: it is well know that the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), a 57 country body, seeks to establish Sharia (Islamic Law) worldwide.
    • Legal basis: the OIC defines "terrorism" only as non-lawful attacks made by non-Muslims against Muslims. Attacks made by jihadis supporting Sharia are considered lawful. The 9/11 attack is considered lawful under this basis. A ricin WMD attack by Hezbollah through Mexico would also be considered lawful by the OIC. Here is a 75-minute video by intelligence Major Stepehen Coughlin (retired) where he covers the legal concepts the OIC use (for fans of Orwell, the OIC are masters of doublespeak): http://www.mrctv.org/videos/stephen-coughlin-oic-brief [the first 55 seconds of the video is blank, please skip past it]
    • Jurisdiction: The OIC claims jurisdiction over all Muslims. It also claims jurisdiction over non-Muslims engaging in "Islamophobia" (which the OIC defines as anything opposing the Sharia, eg. the US Constitution). Hence they essentially claim global jurisdiction. See the same video in the previous point for the discussion about this.
    • Agents: Hezbollah are Iran's agents. They don't do anything without Iran's say so.
    • Iran: Iran wishes to destroy the US, Israel and the Western way of life - it says so every day (it is trivial to find YouTube videos that show this). It appears Iran is preparing multiple ways to do this: a nuclear track and McAfee has uncovered a ricin WMD attack. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px2CvPySHSs (with the input of a moderate Muslim, they're not all bad).
    • US complicity: The State Department, White House and US military senior leadership (eg, after the Fort Hood massacre) appear to believe that intolerance of Muslims is a greater threat than the threat of jihadi terrorism. They are suppressing the information that independent researchers discover. They also vilify these researchers despite *facts* being uncovered. The State Department is currently (and probably unintentionally) advancing the cause of Islam by suppressing facts that are emerging and not standing up for the 1st Amendment (Free Speech) Rights of US citizens, instead suggesting things like Hillary Clinton's "naming and shaming" campaigns. This is a disgraceful position to suppress the lawful Free Speech rights of US citizens in their own country to appease foreign islamic powers. Conclusion: the State Department in the current administration is misguided and currently working *against the interests* of US citizens.
    • US media: the US media are trying to promote tolerance of Islam to the point they overlook and suppress the significance of events happening around the world. Global media are self-censoring (notice how they pixellate out the image, where is Free Speech in the press?): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2256690/Magazine-firebombed-printing-satirical-Sharia-edition-France-publishes-Prophet-Mohammed-cartoon-book.html
    • False narrative: there is a false narrative that the threat to the US is caused by "radical Islam". While there are moderate Muslims (good people) there is no disagreement as to what the Qur'an and hadiths say. The problem is Islam. As Turkey's Erdogan famously said recently, "There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.". It is important to understand that the
  50. That explains Pres. daughter's bf plot by davidwr · · Score: 1

    No wonder the fictional President in 1600 Penn is so involved in his daughter's choice of boyfriends.

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  51. Reminds me... by JasoninKS · · Score: 2

    This is all starting to remind me a bit of Randy Quaid. Formerly relatively sane, had a decent career and money, and now going completely nuts. Telling all kinds of stories on conspiracies and how people are out to get him. (although in this case they really do want McAfee)

    Makes me wonder (besides the obvious drugs) what flips in someones head to make them bonkers like this.

    1. Re:Reminds me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The CEO Of Overstock took it upon himself to expose shadow banking and HFT. Everyone called him a kook for about half a decade, then the blogosphere picks it up, then the media monopoly picked up on it, and after that we get dissemination between different groups until concrete proof in certain trading logs get posted. Turns out he was right.

      The stories of him being on drugs, right or wrong, are there clearly to discredit him. The Media Monopoly has better things to do with it's newsreel time than run that garbage which adds credibility to his story.

      If he's engaged in espionage, someone's forced his hand, and he's being very careful in what information he's releasing. This information is targeted to others, and the number of people involved is probably higher than you'd expect.

    2. Re:Reminds me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't his name Douglas Quaid?

    3. Re:Reminds me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why do you think randy quaid is crazy?
      the starfuckers really are out there to get him.

    4. Re:Reminds me... by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      I don't think anyone's doubting that high-frequency trading happens, or that people were short-selling his stocks. What people didn't have patience for was his unshakable faith that anyone with differing opinions on these topics (even in the detail) was part of a criminal conspiracy targetting Overstock.com. I mean, he thinks that Wikipedia is in on the conspiracy because some of its contributors wanted the articles on those financial topics written differently.

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  52. Why is this news? by destruk · · Score: 0

    Doesn't this belong in the egotistical self-delusioned celebrity section?

  53. Re:Please can we stop it with the John McAfee stor by Nyder · · Score: 1

    This first one was interesting but seriously; does Slashdot need to 're-blog' everything he says and does?

    Since it keeps happening, I would say yes.

    Look, dude is loony, most likely from the bathsalts he shoves up his butt. This is Reality TV at it's best, by not being on TV. If you can't understand why this appeals to us, then just ignore these stories. Very fucking easy to do.

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  54. Invalid cert for apis.google.com by dgharmon · · Score: 1

    I get 'invalid cert' for apis.google.com when I click on www.whoismcafee.com/a-clear-and-present-danger/

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  55. powerful? by superwiz · · Score: 1

    Belize couldn't get a better publicity if it paid for it. It's a nation of less than half a million people. They are trying to attract US retirees as a business model. Powerful people? C'mon.

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  56. It seems delusional, except in Belize... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I lived there in the past and I am not surprised by the general picture painted by the story, the people there are like that.

    As for the terrorist issues, I'll let the CIA worry about the voracity of those claims as they would have no problem checking all the evidence, if JM hands it over to them.

    Then again they probably already know even more that he does, LOL.

    Seriously the story seems crazy, but Belize really is that crazy!

  57. Legends aren't built in a day by yusing · · Score: 1

    I'd say that, if Mr. McAfee were tired of being just another retired millionaire who few people know or care about -- and so he figured out a way to score himself a couple of books, maybe a movie, and get the whole internet busy turning him into an underdog celebrity millionaire -- even if he winds up notorious in the same way as Billy the Kid or John Dillinger or Hunter S. Thompson, who most of have heard about all of our lives -- he's going about it exactly the right way.

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    "You must try to forget all you have learned. You must begin to dream." -- Sherwood Anderson

  58. OR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    McAfee conspires with McBelizeTinPotInChief to make a Second Thailand out of Belize. He talks about lots of vagina all the time. Sounds like a marketing campaign of a cash-strapped country. "Cheap and plenty vaginas on sale here !"

  59. Or, Zionism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe M-Caffe is just an agent of Zion and the whole Hizbollah bullshit is just a prelude to the war Mr Netanjahu and Lockheed-Martin yearn for. The meme works like "America...hizbolla....Iran....MakeProperWarAndSellF16SpareParts". Of course the F16 thing will not be publicized by the mainstream media suckers of Zion.

  60. Yeah, MOVIES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The government of Belize will not actively knock over a rich American/USian as that could easily bring a "freedom revolution" or "Contras" or "a coup d'etat by a general" and the like. They are the whores of the US and they know.

  61. Remember by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're not paranoid if people are actually trying to get you, no matter how drug-addled your brain is

  62. TREATY OF MUTUAL LEGAL ASSISTANCE - 2002 by westlake · · Score: 1

    the US has an extradition treaty with Belize

    The extradition treaty of 2000 isn't the only one in play here.

    The Treaty provides for a broad range of cooperation in criminal matters. Mutual assistance available under the Treaty includes:

    taking the testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records, and articles of evidence; locating or identifying persons; serving documents; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to immobilization and forfeiture of assets, restitution to the victims of crime and collection of fines; and any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the State from whom the assistance is requested.

    I recommend that the Senate give early and favorable consideration to the Treaty, and give its advice and consent to ratification.

    GEORGE W. BUSH

    TREATY WITH BELIZE ON MUTUAL LEGAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS/a

  63. Iran wants to be able to strike US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    John may be eccentric, but he could also be correct. Iran knows that in the event of a direct military clash with the US, it will lose. It must fight differently, and having terrorists in the US ready to carry out attacks (suicide, infrastructure bombing, etc.) would make sense in that regard. John's blog post is just showing how they may have gotten the terrorists into the US.

  64. John Mcafee spews drugged up bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As usual.

    Why the fuck do the slashdot editors give a shit about some loser that hasn't done anything in a decade?

    How much does this asshole pay you guys?

  65. Belize and Elite ? by tmjva · · Score: 1

    I knew the story was laughable when I read "Belize" and "Elite" in the same title.

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  66. I don't understand by obeythefist · · Score: 1

    Why did he spy on the government in the first place?

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    I am government man, come from the government. The government has sent me. -- G.I.R.
  67. Hello, Windows users! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "'I purchased 75 cheap laptop computers and, with trusted help, intalled invisible keystroke logging software on all of them... began giving these away as presents to select people..."

    Translation:

    "'I purchased 75 cheap Windows laptop computers and, with trusted help, intalled invisible Windows-based keystroke logging software on all of them... began giving these away as presents to select Windows-using people..."

  68. Trust by Datamonstar · · Score: 1

    This is why you don't completely trust hardware. Ever.

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