It is difficult to express conservative ideas, but they are often expressed. Also, the discussion seems to help express the ideas, even when the comment has been modded down.
For example, if I said to you, "You obviously have never spent a day in your life away from a desk job. If you had, then you would know what it is like to go home with a sore back, or what it is like to have no time for personal development. If you don't have that time, then you can't find a better job.", then readers would know exactly what you supposedly said. To confirm, they could just click on your -1 comment, and read for themselves.
On another note, I often skip a few comments and the summary, because there are always some people who discuss what is and is not the article. You could pretty much tell by the tone of the discussion when the actual final word has been given.
I find that this type of discussion only happens on Slashdot.
For other places, like YouTube, I get frustrated, by the lack of organization in the discussion, so I don't really bother.
I agree. There is no way that I would trust Cannonical until they can prove that they stopped messing around with things that already work. I'm sticking with Kubuntu 10.04, but as soon as I find a better operating system, then I'm moving over.
If they would only focus on improving the things that people keeping asking about, then Linux would have ruled the desktop ages ago.
I really do sympathize with you, but I hope that you can sympathize with others too.
I think that what happened was the guy tried to tell it like it was, but his memory got the better of him. A couple of books, "The Tipping Point" and "The Invisible Gorilla", clearly document this. In the first book, if I recall correctly, a "Chinese American" prof went on a day tour or something like that, during a holiday. He carried a brochure, and people thought that he was a Japanese spy carrying a camera. It seems so paranoid from our perspective, but this took place during WW II, so it is somewhat paranoid, but being caught off guard at Pearl Harbour, I wouldn't judge Americans for their misconceptions. In the second book, 1 of the authors was convinced that he clearly remembered his experiences on 9/11, but when he called in 2 friends to discuss those details, none of them completely agreed on significant details. The authors of the latter book give examples of people saying things to others, while others make claims that things were said to the people.
Something like this even happened to me yesterday. I wanted to ask this lady where she got her books that she was selling on the streets. I thought that she would be interested in selling a book that I wrote, but she acted angry and defensive. She basically wanted to know why she should participate in any surveys or anything like that. Even though I explained my request to her, she just couldn't understand my words. I think the thing that threw her off was my clipboard and pen. I sympathized with her, because I actually was conducting surveys, but not of her. In other words, I wasn't trying to survey her. I just happened to see her in between my questioning, and my questioning was completely unrelated.
I think that we need to remember that people can absorb information at certain speeds, and some are slower. It makes sense that he probably only heard enough words to get the impression that you would photograph the oil stuff. Or maybe it was like I initially said, and he just had a bad memory, but didn't realize it.
Regarding what he first said, he might have thought that he did first say that.
Remember that when people forget things, they don't just forget things, they actually fill in the blanks, without even knowing it.
I'll look into the other stuff later, but I wanted to comment on the videos. I have to admit that that stuff is awkward. I think that the last video comments were right: he is on drugs. The stress must be killing him. When I watched the first video, I felt that it was all kind of subjective, until I got tired of his rambling. The second video really killed him, and the third video kind of nailed the coffin shut. If they hadn't added in the MadTV clips in the third video, then I think that the video would have a stronger effect.
I was going to moderate, but I felt that your great perspective deserved a response.
What you say seems to really correctly describe Americans. It even seems to account for American movies and Canadian movies, and even Canadian movies about Americans.
I'm taking a writing correspondence course that emphasizes a good quick story beginning. I held that perspective, when I read "The Scarlet Pimpernel", recently, and compared the text version to the BBC movie version. What a huge difference! The text version seemed to do a lot less lifting. I found myself so confused. The movie version seemed very easy to follow.
I think that your comment also accounts for why the 2-party system is so strong in America.
I think that that is sad. The court should be biased towards finding people who are open minded, and willing to ask questions.
I don't know all the history of the way we [I'm Canadian, but I'm sure the US is similar] do things, but in order to really give a person a fair trial, we need "educated" people who think. Some of the problems are complex, and we can't just let a guy go, just because the situation is hazy. We can't simply punish him either.
I put "educated" in quotes, because I am not asking for a university education, or something like that. I'm thinking more in terms of skilled, trained, and well taught, to include more than just those with degrees.
A good way to create this system is to limit what lawyers can talk about, if they don't bring in jurors who also have experience and training in that area. It might also be good to limit what they are allowed to ask the jurors when filtering them out. Another good thing to limit the amount of jurors that a lawyer can filter.
Yeah, but if we look at the way that Anonymous protests against them, and complaints that people have, I think we really do need to put them in a completely separate class. I've never heard about them being too traditional or infringing on constitutional rights. They might, but we never seem to get those complaints about them, just as we never seem to get those complaints about the Mafia.
In short, even if they had completely open and honest recruiting, then they would still be in another class, because of their internal practises. Maybe I'm contradicting myself. I haven't studied the organization, so I could be completely wrong on it.
I always assumed that mainstream cults were not so focused on clever recruitment tactics. I tend to be too trusting, and assume that there are a few leaders in those groups that after money and what have you, but for the most part, most of the followers are probably naive and somewhat well meaning. From what you describe, I get the impression that Scientologists tend to be in corporate offices, and have their fingers in everything. They remind me more of the mafia and the organized mobs, than they do of religion.
So, to answer your question: they might share some cultish attributes, but they seem to be a control organization that uses religion, as opposed to a religion that uses control.
Thanks for sharing that stuff. I appreciate knowing that others are going through similar struggles to find work. It has been very demoralizing for me. I honestly think about suicide now and then, even though I refuse to go through with it.
It is amazing that the Scientologists would go through something like that. For a minute, I was thinking that a company just used the tests, without ill intent, but apparently not. I honestly can't believe how deceptive and organized they are. They are truly experts at being evil. A lot of times, slashdotters like to call them a cult. I am beginning to think that that is an understatement.
I agree. Corporations and government organizations [e.g. Canadian Forces] are passive slow pokes. When they can no longer use the web with IE 6, then they'll gladly upgrade, otherwise they'll just keep wasting our time.
I clearly remember the can containing more sugar, as described on the nutrition label. All my searching on the internet says otherwise. Perhaps I misinterpreted the numbers, but other people looked at the labels in disbelief, also, and changed their minds.
It was a late gaming night, so maybe we were all tired.
It's not surprising, when you think about it, but when you don't, you might end up assuming that a can of cola is mostly water, and that there isn't much sugar.
According to another search, 160 calories = 40 sugar grams = 1/3 of a cup. Apparently, I had a number in a wrong place, and then some.;^P
You're right. Sometimes, even though we know we are eating bad stuff, we don't really put it into perspective. Imagine how popular Coke would be, if we had to pour in 3/4 of a cup of sugar, yet people ingest that much sugar with every drink. Just eating 1/2 cup of plain sugar suddenly seems like a diet snack.
Speaking of problems, does anybody know if you can covert problem jelly fish into fuel? I heard that Japan had a huge problem with jelly fish. Why don't they net up those jelly fish, and then break them down into fuel?
I thought of the messenger service as well. It is very frustrating to have a messenger client that no longer works, just because the company changed the protocol.
That being said, a few things that I could think of are having better ways to upload information to Yahoo! Notes, and syncing Calendar and Contacts. I'm sure that there are more.
The stories have to be able to fit the mold as well. Typical Transformers and GI Joe episodes were not good for that kind of stuff. A lot of the characters were cool for the kids, but those characters were remarkably shallow.
It is difficult to express conservative ideas, but they are often expressed. Also, the discussion seems to help express the ideas, even when the comment has been modded down.
For example, if I said to you, "You obviously have never spent a day in your life away from a desk job. If you had, then you would know what it is like to go home with a sore back, or what it is like to have no time for personal development. If you don't have that time, then you can't find a better job.", then readers would know exactly what you supposedly said. To confirm, they could just click on your -1 comment, and read for themselves.
On another note, I often skip a few comments and the summary, because there are always some people who discuss what is and is not the article. You could pretty much tell by the tone of the discussion when the actual final word has been given.
I find that this type of discussion only happens on Slashdot.
For other places, like YouTube, I get frustrated, by the lack of organization in the discussion, so I don't really bother.
By the way, I am quite conservative.
I agree. There is no way that I would trust Cannonical until they can prove that they stopped messing around with things that already work. I'm sticking with Kubuntu 10.04, but as soon as I find a better operating system, then I'm moving over.
If they would only focus on improving the things that people keeping asking about, then Linux would have ruled the desktop ages ago.
I really do sympathize with you, but I hope that you can sympathize with others too.
I think that what happened was the guy tried to tell it like it was, but his memory got the better of him. A couple of books, "The Tipping Point" and "The Invisible Gorilla", clearly document this. In the first book, if I recall correctly, a "Chinese American" prof went on a day tour or something like that, during a holiday. He carried a brochure, and people thought that he was a Japanese spy carrying a camera. It seems so paranoid from our perspective, but this took place during WW II, so it is somewhat paranoid, but being caught off guard at Pearl Harbour, I wouldn't judge Americans for their misconceptions. In the second book, 1 of the authors was convinced that he clearly remembered his experiences on 9/11, but when he called in 2 friends to discuss those details, none of them completely agreed on significant details. The authors of the latter book give examples of people saying things to others, while others make claims that things were said to the people.
Something like this even happened to me yesterday. I wanted to ask this lady where she got her books that she was selling on the streets. I thought that she would be interested in selling a book that I wrote, but she acted angry and defensive. She basically wanted to know why she should participate in any surveys or anything like that. Even though I explained my request to her, she just couldn't understand my words. I think the thing that threw her off was my clipboard and pen. I sympathized with her, because I actually was conducting surveys, but not of her. In other words, I wasn't trying to survey her. I just happened to see her in between my questioning, and my questioning was completely unrelated.
I think that we need to remember that people can absorb information at certain speeds, and some are slower. It makes sense that he probably only heard enough words to get the impression that you would photograph the oil stuff. Or maybe it was like I initially said, and he just had a bad memory, but didn't realize it.
Regarding what he first said, he might have thought that he did first say that.
Remember that when people forget things, they don't just forget things, they actually fill in the blanks, without even knowing it.
Yep. Temperature and paper sizes are probably the best to convert first. They don't depend on other factors.
I'll look into the other stuff later, but I wanted to comment on the videos. I have to admit that that stuff is awkward. I think that the last video comments were right: he is on drugs. The stress must be killing him. When I watched the first video, I felt that it was all kind of subjective, until I got tired of his rambling. The second video really killed him, and the third video kind of nailed the coffin shut. If they hadn't added in the MadTV clips in the third video, then I think that the video would have a stronger effect.
I was going to moderate, but I felt that your great perspective deserved a response.
What you say seems to really correctly describe Americans. It even seems to account for American movies and Canadian movies, and even Canadian movies about Americans.
I'm taking a writing correspondence course that emphasizes a good quick story beginning. I held that perspective, when I read "The Scarlet Pimpernel", recently, and compared the text version to the BBC movie version. What a huge difference! The text version seemed to do a lot less lifting. I found myself so confused. The movie version seemed very easy to follow.
I think that your comment also accounts for why the 2-party system is so strong in America.
Thanks!
Also, all the effort in creating this open technology costs time and money, which could have been devoted to something else more productive.
I think that that is sad. The court should be biased towards finding people who are open minded, and willing to ask questions.
I don't know all the history of the way we [I'm Canadian, but I'm sure the US is similar] do things, but in order to really give a person a fair trial, we need "educated" people who think. Some of the problems are complex, and we can't just let a guy go, just because the situation is hazy. We can't simply punish him either.
I put "educated" in quotes, because I am not asking for a university education, or something like that. I'm thinking more in terms of skilled, trained, and well taught, to include more than just those with degrees.
A good way to create this system is to limit what lawyers can talk about, if they don't bring in jurors who also have experience and training in that area. It might also be good to limit what they are allowed to ask the jurors when filtering them out. Another good thing to limit the amount of jurors that a lawyer can filter.
Yeah, but if we look at the way that Anonymous protests against them, and complaints that people have, I think we really do need to put them in a completely separate class. I've never heard about them being too traditional or infringing on constitutional rights. They might, but we never seem to get those complaints about them, just as we never seem to get those complaints about the Mafia.
In short, even if they had completely open and honest recruiting, then they would still be in another class, because of their internal practises. Maybe I'm contradicting myself. I haven't studied the organization, so I could be completely wrong on it.
I always assumed that mainstream cults were not so focused on clever recruitment tactics. I tend to be too trusting, and assume that there are a few leaders in those groups that after money and what have you, but for the most part, most of the followers are probably naive and somewhat well meaning. From what you describe, I get the impression that Scientologists tend to be in corporate offices, and have their fingers in everything. They remind me more of the mafia and the organized mobs, than they do of religion.
So, to answer your question: they might share some cultish attributes, but they seem to be a control organization that uses religion, as opposed to a religion that uses control.
You forgot the period!! I can't believe that you didn't see such a glaring mistake. ;^)
Wow.
Thanks for sharing that stuff. I appreciate knowing that others are going through similar struggles to find work. It has been very demoralizing for me. I honestly think about suicide now and then, even though I refuse to go through with it.
It is amazing that the Scientologists would go through something like that. For a minute, I was thinking that a company just used the tests, without ill intent, but apparently not. I honestly can't believe how deceptive and organized they are. They are truly experts at being evil. A lot of times, slashdotters like to call them a cult. I am beginning to think that that is an understatement.
It might be better to contract bonuses, so that people feel a positive incentive to quit, as opposed to a penalty.
I find that to be so discouraging. It bugs me that people could be given so much power, and not have the ability to think through things.
Could you elaborate on all of that? What have they got against that PhD, or those publications?
I agree. Corporations and government organizations [e.g. Canadian Forces] are passive slow pokes. When they can no longer use the web with IE 6, then they'll gladly upgrade, otherwise they'll just keep wasting our time.
We should have no sympathy for them.
I wasn't pulling random numbers out of thin air.
I clearly remember the can containing more sugar, as described on the nutrition label. All my searching on the internet says otherwise. Perhaps I misinterpreted the numbers, but other people looked at the labels in disbelief, also, and changed their minds.
It was a late gaming night, so maybe we were all tired.
That being said, the emphasis of what I said is still correct: contain less sugar than a can of cola.
It's not surprising, when you think about it, but when you don't, you might end up assuming that a can of cola is mostly water, and that there isn't much sugar.
According to another search, 160 calories = 40 sugar grams = 1/3 of a cup. Apparently, I had a number in a wrong place, and then some. ;^P
You're right. Sometimes, even though we know we are eating bad stuff, we don't really put it into perspective. Imagine how popular Coke would be, if we had to pour in 3/4 of a cup of sugar, yet people ingest that much sugar with every drink. Just eating 1/2 cup of plain sugar suddenly seems like a diet snack.
I think that the KKK is racist.
Speaking of problems, does anybody know if you can covert problem jelly fish into fuel? I heard that Japan had a huge problem with jelly fish. Why don't they net up those jelly fish, and then break them down into fuel?
I thought of the messenger service as well. It is very frustrating to have a messenger client that no longer works, just because the company changed the protocol.
That being said, a few things that I could think of are having better ways to upload information to Yahoo! Notes, and syncing Calendar and Contacts. I'm sure that there are more.
I suggest waiting 20 years so that a new generation can come in with a fresh perspective.
I haven't seen you for a while. I hope that all is well.
This is more about "The Tragedy Of The Commons" and "Lassez Faire", than the free market.
The stories have to be able to fit the mold as well. Typical Transformers and GI Joe episodes were not good for that kind of stuff. A lot of the characters were cool for the kids, but those characters were remarkably shallow.
No. It's corruption and Lassiez Faire.