What I found helpful is that if I schedule when I want to use Acrobat, then I can save time by recompiling my Gentoo while waiting for Acrobat to load up. This way, I wait for 2 things at once.
The times that I hate the most are when I finally load up Acrobat and Adobe releases a new version just around the same time.
Well, let me put it this way: a Google search of "skeptic doubt" certainly turns up texts showing that doubt is a good thing. Another thing is that from I know of you, I would certainly expect you to criticize people for not doubting things that are untrue.
I've never seen anybody deal with risk properly without fear, uncertainty and doubt.
I do not consider that people of different beliefs are enemies of mine.
Then maybe you should. I find that this attitude of getting along is a bit of a hinderance to civilized society. I realize that calling people "my enemy" can raise a bit of animosity, but you can't fight people that are on your own side. A house divided cannot stand.
embracing of differences
I don't think that you can do that with people who ignore science and truth.
I prefer to call people that I disagree with, my enemies, and focus more on doing the right thing, and maintaining civilized behaviour [courtesy; politeness; humility] towards them.
Fear, uncertainty and doubt *are* bad - what are you talking about?
Those 3 things allow us the ability to deal with risk. Without any of them we wouldn't be able to get a handle on things. At the very least, doubt is a good thing. Skeptics use it all the time.
No one has the right or should have the right to attack these documentaries when there is such "crap" (excuse me) on TV that goes on without a fuss.
Well, you have to start somewhere, and the tv is a lot harder to attack because they broadcast stuff despite what you say and do. These people were asked what they thought of the films. It's hard to criticize them for answering according to their beliefs.
You sound as if fear, uncertainty and doubt are bad things.
If I don't want people to watch something that I believe is false, then what's wrong? Yeah, there should be more people discussing things and sharing views, without the pitch-forks, etc., but what went wrong in this scenario?
"Blasphemous", wouldn't have been the best theological word, but I don't think that that's the issue here. I see you focusing on that word, but I think that you are really upset at other aspects of the situation.
From what little I knew of you [and I could have mistaken you for some other fellow from the slashdot journal circle], I never knew you to be religous. I'm not saying that you aren't. I'm just surprised to hear you say that.
That being said, you comment as if science is immune from politics, the love of money, or selfishness.
Look at it from another point of view: is the movie company obligated to show something that your enemies dislike? The movie company workers have to eat and pay bills also. They have a choice: show something truthful that the market wants; show something truthful that the market doesn't want. Instead of complaining about things like this, we could tell Imax to show something truthful that you and your enemies agree on.
I would encourage those potential patrons of these theaters who are refusing to show these films to boycott those IMAX theaters who are too scared to show a film that documents scientific discovery
I would encourage my fellow 6-day Creationists to boycott those Imax theatres that don't support our views. There are many places to spend our money. Spend it to further our cause.
This entire publishing company uses Linux and OpenOffice.org. I seem to recall that their books are prepared using the office suite. Their experiences and documented at their web site.
I totally agree. It would be much better for hardware vendors to open their specs and maybe their source code. Maybe they want incompatibilities in the same way that MS wants incompatibilities.:^/ *shrug*
I can understand why software package vendors want their source code as closed source, but it makes no sense for harware vendors.
...it's eweek's web master, saying, "You script kiddies think you're so tough?! Come on! Bring it on!! I'll show you who's 1337!". He just wants to go at it for another round. That's all.
I never even noticed that there wasn't a link. I suppose that I sound like the typical slashdotter, but still.
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As I said above, I'm not American. I'm Canadian. If you Europeans are giving decent tests and aren't arrogant, then I have no quarrel with you.
You should focus on your people skills. Turning this into an "America vs. Europe" discussion doesn't encourage friendship. How many Americans want to befriend somebody that says, "That's not how we do it in Europe!"?:^) It gets even worse when the person that you seem to disagree with isn't even American, because you are being presumptuous. And it can get even worse than that.
1 thing that I didn't like about the word tests is the fact that all the little quiz questions that they share with the public seem to involve spatial skills and math skills, yet when you pay big bucks for the test, they seem to do a bait 'n switch with you, and give you the word test.
First of all, I'm not American. I'm Canadian. You're point still somewhat stands, though. They are basically saying, "Well, we'd like to make it possible for people to join, if they don't have math skills. However, if they don't have English skills, then they are allowed to take a different test. However, for all of you brought up in the education system, you get the word test.".
The problem with that is that you might have stronger math skills or other skills that other slashdotters have mentioned, but since you were brought up in a typical education system, you might be forced to take the word test. So, the way that I see it, uneducated people get picture tests and math tests, while the rest of us get word tests. That's hardly fair because words are far more subjective, and there are many more rules on how we define them. English is like a 1000 digit numbering system.
Second of all, the better alternative is to have 1 session with multiple tests, where you test analytical skills, math skills, verbal skills, spatial skills, people skills, and any other legitimate skills that require intelligence. When I applied for the Canadian military, they tested for spatial, verbal, and math.
Regarding people skills, it would also be hard to test, but in theory you could do it as long as each question focused on getting the most here and now. A lot of people let ethics and morals guide their decisions, which can make them look pretty unintelligent, but they are keenly aware of how to focus on the here and now. *shrug* I don't know. I'm just thinking off the top of my head.
Speaking of Mensa gifts, I got a Mensan Christmas present as well. It's a book maze, where you go to such-n-such a page, depending on what the answer is. For example, if you think that the answer is foo, then you'd go to page 4, if bar, then 5, etc. I got up to a certain point and found myself going in circles. I wasn't totally surprised, because a lot of it was just me guessing. I didn't have the time to go through every single possibility [ie: find the number of triangles in the illustration]. So, I decided to check the back of the book. It offended me that the answers also went in circles. So, I couldn't even figure out the correct path by cheating; that is if I wanted to cheat.:^)
I guess my point is that eventhough nobody is perfect, and I'm relatively fine with that, this is hardly a glowing example of a Mensan product.
to identify and foster human intelligence for the benefit of humanity; to encourage research in the nature, characteristics, and uses of intelligence;
I don't see how they intend to do that. If people below the standard aren't allowed in and Mensa doesn't have outreach programs, then I think that they are hard pressed to reach those 2 goals.
Perhaps they intend to do things through their own personal relationships. That doesn't seem too wise to me.
The point is, intelligence is not a function of how well you can do in a few puzzles. And more importantly, it is not all that hard to ace the Mensa test if you prepare well enough for it - just spend a while solving puzzles and patterns, and it'll be a cakewalk.
Actually, I think that it's worse than that. The Mensa tests that I took were mostly word tests, which were hard because not everybody has the same vocabulary. That really bothered me.
So, I definitely agree with you all.
To add to it, I think Mensa made a big mistake by working with MSN on this venture. I'm not trying to bash Microsoft, but Mensa should know better; that is, if they really are all that smart.
Small screen is useful for those panels. If you want a design a page with a list of information, then you render it as small screen and make it fit better in the panel.
Ah, yes! Let's have more proprietary HTML so that *we* have to adjust *our* reality browsers, while we have Microsoft cram their proprietary reality browsers down our throats. Yes! Let's all accept Microsoft's defacto standards of reality. This is just what we need!;^)
I use Opera with Yahoo! Mail and seem to experience no problems. What problems do you have? Have you tried identifying as IE? I know from experience with Yahoo! Mail that you get slightly different pages for some reason [not necessarily Yahoo!'s fault]. I read that identifying as IE sometimes gives you faster downloads on certain sites because of file compression that is offered only to IE.
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What I found helpful is that if I schedule when I want to use Acrobat, then I can save time by recompiling my Gentoo while waiting for Acrobat to load up. This way, I wait for 2 things at once.
The times that I hate the most are when I finally load up Acrobat and Adobe releases a new version just around the same time.
I've never seen anybody deal with risk properly without fear, uncertainty and doubt.
I prefer to call people that I disagree with, my enemies, and focus more on doing the right thing, and maintaining civilized behaviour [courtesy; politeness; humility] towards them.
Thanks for the reply.
You sound as if fear, uncertainty and doubt are bad things.
If I don't want people to watch something that I believe is false, then what's wrong? Yeah, there should be more people discussing things and sharing views, without the pitch-forks, etc., but what went wrong in this scenario?
"Blasphemous", wouldn't have been the best theological word, but I don't think that that's the issue here. I see you focusing on that word, but I think that you are really upset at other aspects of the situation.
You are exactly right.
The other posters seem to have this inability to articulate their opponents' views, which is really unfortunate.
[disclaimer: I never read the NY Times article]
From what little I knew of you [and I could have mistaken you for some other fellow from the slashdot journal circle], I never knew you to be religous. I'm not saying that you aren't. I'm just surprised to hear you say that.
That being said, you comment as if science is immune from politics, the love of money, or selfishness.
Look at it from another point of view: is the movie company obligated to show something that your enemies dislike? The movie company workers have to eat and pay bills also. They have a choice: show something truthful that the market wants; show something truthful that the market doesn't want. Instead of complaining about things like this, we could tell Imax to show something truthful that you and your enemies agree on.I would encourage my fellow 6-day Creationists to boycott those Imax theatres that don't support our views. There are many places to spend our money. Spend it to further our cause.
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This entire publishing company uses Linux and OpenOffice.org. I seem to recall that their books are prepared using the office suite. Their experiences and documented at their web site.
I totally agree. It would be much better for hardware vendors to open their specs and maybe their source code. Maybe they want incompatibilities in the same way that MS wants incompatibilities. :^/ *shrug*
I can understand why software package vendors want their source code as closed source, but it makes no sense for harware vendors.
...it's eweek's web master, saying, "You script kiddies think you're so tough?! Come on! Bring it on!! I'll show you who's 1337!". He just wants to go at it for another round. That's all.
I never even noticed that there wasn't a link. I suppose that I sound like the typical slashdotter, but still.
As I said above, I'm not American. I'm Canadian. If you Europeans are giving decent tests and aren't arrogant, then I have no quarrel with you.
:^) It gets even worse when the person that you seem to disagree with isn't even American, because you are being presumptuous. And it can get even worse than that.
You should focus on your people skills. Turning this into an "America vs. Europe" discussion doesn't encourage friendship. How many Americans want to befriend somebody that says, "That's not how we do it in Europe!"?
Thanks for the link. I appreciate it. It's not what I had in mind, but it definitely fits the bill whether I agree with it or not.
1 thing that I didn't like about the word tests is the fact that all the little quiz questions that they share with the public seem to involve spatial skills and math skills, yet when you pay big bucks for the test, they seem to do a bait 'n switch with you, and give you the word test.
First of all, I'm not American. I'm Canadian. You're point still somewhat stands, though. They are basically saying, "Well, we'd like to make it possible for people to join, if they don't have math skills. However, if they don't have English skills, then they are allowed to take a different test. However, for all of you brought up in the education system, you get the word test.".
The problem with that is that you might have stronger math skills or other skills that other slashdotters have mentioned, but since you were brought up in a typical education system, you might be forced to take the word test. So, the way that I see it, uneducated people get picture tests and math tests, while the rest of us get word tests. That's hardly fair because words are far more subjective, and there are many more rules on how we define them. English is like a 1000 digit numbering system.
Second of all, the better alternative is to have 1 session with multiple tests, where you test analytical skills, math skills, verbal skills, spatial skills, people skills, and any other legitimate skills that require intelligence. When I applied for the Canadian military, they tested for spatial, verbal, and math.
Regarding people skills, it would also be hard to test, but in theory you could do it as long as each question focused on getting the most here and now. A lot of people let ethics and morals guide their decisions, which can make them look pretty unintelligent, but they are keenly aware of how to focus on the here and now. *shrug* I don't know. I'm just thinking off the top of my head.
Speaking of Mensa gifts, I got a Mensan Christmas present as well. It's a book maze, where you go to such-n-such a page, depending on what the answer is. For example, if you think that the answer is foo, then you'd go to page 4, if bar, then 5, etc. I got up to a certain point and found myself going in circles. I wasn't totally surprised, because a lot of it was just me guessing. I didn't have the time to go through every single possibility [ie: find the number of triangles in the illustration]. So, I decided to check the back of the book. It offended me that the answers also went in circles. So, I couldn't even figure out the correct path by cheating; that is if I wanted to cheat. :^)
I guess my point is that eventhough nobody is perfect, and I'm relatively fine with that, this is hardly a glowing example of a Mensan product.
Perhaps they intend to do things through their own personal relationships. That doesn't seem too wise to me.
Maybe MSN is trying to get the last laugh, by saying, "Look at how stupid they were to sign a deal with us!! Lol! Lol! Hey, wait a minute...".
So, I definitely agree with you all.
To add to it, I think Mensa made a big mistake by working with MSN on this venture. I'm not trying to bash Microsoft, but Mensa should know better; that is, if they really are all that smart.
That gave me a good chuckle. Thanks!
Small screen is useful for those panels. If you want a design a page with a list of information, then you render it as small screen and make it fit better in the panel.
Ah, yes! Let's have more proprietary HTML so that *we* have to adjust *our* reality browsers, while we have Microsoft cram their proprietary reality browsers down our throats. Yes! Let's all accept Microsoft's defacto standards of reality. This is just what we need! ;^)
I use Opera with Yahoo! Mail and seem to experience no problems. What problems do you have? Have you tried identifying as IE? I know from experience with Yahoo! Mail that you get slightly different pages for some reason [not necessarily Yahoo!'s fault]. I read that identifying as IE sometimes gives you faster downloads on certain sites because of file compression that is offered only to IE.
What problems do you have? Maybe I can help.