then why did they ever give them a piece of the pie to begin with? android can't be called anything other than a massive success for google. everyone is making $.
"As far back as 2005, Microsoft executives knew that confusing hardware requirements for the Windows Vista Capable program might get them in trouble. But they did it anyway--over the objection of PC makers--at the behest of Intel, according to e-mails released as part of a class-action lawsuit pending against Microsoft."
Ask yourself, 1) Who is Dell's primary audience? 2) Who is the tablets primary audience? 3) Which one of these has more money to spend?
Dells primary audience is business, tablets are consumer items and rarely used in businesses. Business budgets tend to be much higher then consumer budgets, they also turn over computers much faster. Michael Dell knows his audience, as much as the Apple fanboys hate to admit it and he's been quite successful because of that. Dell is still the number 2 PC maker in the world, second only to HP and both HP and Dell can attribute this success to corporate customers.
He's right, tablets are not a threat to traditional PC's.
So if all of that is true, how do you explain this?
And then you proceed to talk about app profits, not app usage (also note, that Flurry is an analytics toolkit to be built in your apps.
Let's talk about web usage: Google has said under oath that 66% of it's mobile traffic comes from iOS devices even though Android devices out number iOS devices by at least 50%,
(1) counts all iOS devices, not just phones and (2) speaks about in-app purchases stats.
So when you talk about "OS share" for computers do you exclude either desktops, laptops, or servers? If not, why are Android proponents so interested in only counting phones? Third party developers could usually care less whether someone is running iOS on a phone or a Touch.
It seems strange that Android usage is so far below iOS usage though. Market shares are close (depending on who's numbers you believe), and I can't imagine that iOS owners use the Internet three times as much as Android owners.
All the evidence shows that Android users statistically don't use their phones as "smart phones" as often as iOS users.
We're all well aware of Apple's percentage of profits. By the way, Apple's profits tell me one thing: if you buy Apple you're overpaying.
Actually, in the U.S. you pay the same amount for an iPhone that you pay for an equivalent Android phone. The carrier pays a higher subsidy to Apple. The monthly charges are also the same. Why should I care that the carrier has to pay a higher subsidy?
Why do they care about tablet marketshare (and also presumably profit) but don't care about marketshare of smartphones, on
Whoever said that Apple cared about marketshare in either case? If they did, wouldn't they be dropping their prices?
As a platform - the important thing - Apple's star is waning. You can't compete with the rest of the industry just because some fan boys prefer how the screen scrolls when you swipe it, or whatever.
As a platform....
1. iOS still accounts for 2/3rd's of Google's mobile searches
This is just one bug where Google patched it for the Nexus but had to wait on the various manufacturers/carriers to send out a patch? How long do you think it took carriers to send out an update? How many manufacturers didn't bother about updating their phones?
The 3GS was introduced in June 2009 and is still getting updates. How many Android phones from even last year are still being kept up to date by the manufacturer?
You get the update the day that Apple decides they want to start pushing the update, it has nothing to do with when the code was "finished" because Apple keeps all of that under wraps. Whether this is good/bad/indifferent is up to the user, but comparing that process to the Android one is awkward at best. Oh yeah, and how is Siri working on that iPhone 4 of yours?
Google patches a security flaw in Android and releases it. How long does it take the patch to be available for every Android phone worldwide?
When Apple released iOS 5.0.1. Every iOS user worldwide got a notification that a new OS was available and all they had to do was press 'Update' from their phone/tablet.
Now we have Android OS from Google and the turnaround can be anywhere from 4 months to a year before it is running on a good portion of the install base, and we complain about it? Why? If the phone doesn't do what you want it to, don't buy it thinking that some software release will come along next week and make it all better (even if the retailers want to insist that)...
The day the iPhone 4S with iOS 5.0 was released I was able to upgrade my iPhone 4, iPod Touch, and iPad to iOS 5.
The day that Apple released a security update, I was able to click on 'Upgrade' on my phone and get the update that day -- as were all other iOS 5 users worldwide, independent of the carrier.
Even MS has seen to be able to figure out how to upgrade WP7 phones without the carrier or manufacturer's intervention.
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Okay, which phone is cheaper than the $0 iPhone 3GS?
Apple makes 66% of all mobile phone profit....
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2389518,00.asp
66% of Google searches on mobile devices come from Apple devices....
http://www.gadgetvenue.com/google-mobile-searches-made-up-of-66-ios-09223009/
And Google just spent the equivelent of two years of its net income on money losing Motorola Mobility.
You did get the memo that Adobe is abandoning Flash on mobile didn't you?
And of course it would be too much to expect for you to show some Android phones that are priced significantly less than the equivalent iPhone?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9882376-37.html
"As far back as 2005, Microsoft executives knew that confusing hardware requirements for the Windows Vista Capable program might get them in trouble. But they did it anyway--over the objection of PC makers--at the behest of Intel, according to e-mails released as part of a class-action lawsuit pending against Microsoft."
So if all of that is true, how do you explain this?
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:DELL&fstype=ii#
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:AAPL&fstype=ii#
Let's talk about web usage: Google has said under oath that 66% of it's mobile traffic comes from iOS devices even though Android devices out number iOS devices by at least 50%,
http://news.cnet.com/8301-33200_3-57323943-290/ios-vs-android-lots-of-stats-little-clarity/
Even general web usage is 58.5% iOS devices versus Android devices for non-computer devices.
The same link shows that on average, an iOS user downloads 2 apps for every one that an Android user downloads.
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(1) counts all iOS devices, not just phones and (2) speaks about in-app purchases stats.
So when you talk about "OS share" for computers do you exclude either desktops, laptops, or servers? If not, why are Android proponents so interested in only counting phones? Third party developers could usually care less whether someone is running iOS on a phone or a Touch.
As far as app purchases....
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/12/ios-revenues-vs-android/
http://blog.flurry.com/bid/79061/App-Developers-Bet-on-iOS-over-Android-this-Holiday-Season
Not to mention piracy rates are higher on Android....
http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/app-security/231601064
All the evidence shows that Android users statistically don't use their phones as "smart phones" as often as iOS users.
66% of Google mobile searches come from iOS (according to Google).
http://www.gadgetvenue.com/google-mobile-searches-made-up-of-66-ios-09223009/
iOS users buy 4x as many apps.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/13/android-24-percent-ios/
If someone bought an iPad and even they admitted that it isn't "smooth" on a quad-core(?!?1) processor, wouldn't Slashdot posters have a field day?
So a high end iPhone is overpriced at $200 but a high-end Android phone at $200 is not overpriced?
What makes you think that if Apple lowered the MSRP, the carrier would still not charge $200 and decrease the subsidy?
Actually, in the U.S. you pay the same amount for an iPhone that you pay for an equivalent Android phone. The carrier pays a higher subsidy to Apple. The monthly charges are also the same. Why should I care that the carrier has to pay a higher subsidy?
Whoever said that Apple cared about marketshare in either case? If they did, wouldn't they be dropping their prices?
Google supports ActiveSync. All you have to do for the iPhone is enter the domain, username, and password.
You have to view the site from an iOS device, but this website allows you install shortcuts directly to various settings -- no jailbreak required.
http://brdrck.me/settings/
Because Apple is quite happy capturing 2/3rds of the worldwide mobile phone profit.
Or did you think businesses care about market share and not profit?
Last time I checked, the Apple board is probably concerned with revenues, profits, and ":increasing shareholder value".
I'm sure they are not to upset that the most successful non-Apple tablets are sold at a loss....
As a platform....
1. iOS still accounts for 2/3rd's of Google's mobile searches
http://9to5mac.com/2011/09/21/google-23rds-of-our-mobile-search-comes-from-apples-ios/
2. The Apple app store generates 4x the revenue of the Android app market....
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-app-store-2011-12
3. And Apple generates more profit on the iPhone than the rest of the industry combined.....
http://www.asymco.com/2011/07/29/apple-captured-two-thirds-of-available-mobile-phone-profits-in-q2/
I think their are a few more people comfortable with iOS than Linux.....
You really think that ordinary people want to run Linux?
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/08/10/05/123253/netbook-return-rates-much-higher-for-linux-than-windows
You can buy an iPad keyboard + case for $39.
How much do you think a good adware + spyware + virus subscription costs plus the infrastructure and personnel costs?
What type of central management solution do these other tablets offer?
It would be so nice if the iPad could use any old Bluetooth keyboard....
Oh wait!! It can.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/05/google-android-sms-bug/
This is just one bug where Google patched it for the Nexus but had to wait on the various manufacturers/carriers to send out a patch? How long do you think it took carriers to send out an update? How many manufacturers didn't bother about updating their phones?
The 3GS was introduced in June 2009 and is still getting updates. How many Android phones from even last year are still being kept up to date by the manufacturer?
Google patches a security flaw in Android and releases it. How long does it take the patch to be available for every Android phone worldwide?
When Apple released iOS 5.0.1. Every iOS user worldwide got a notification that a new OS was available and all they had to do was press 'Update' from their phone/tablet.
The day the iPhone 4S with iOS 5.0 was released I was able to upgrade my iPhone 4, iPod Touch, and iPad to iOS 5.
The day that Apple released a security update, I was able to click on 'Upgrade' on my phone and get the update that day -- as were all other iOS 5 users worldwide, independent of the carrier.
Even MS has seen to be able to figure out how to upgrade WP7 phones without the carrier or manufacturer's intervention.
Sure it does. When a vulnerability is found in WebKit and Apple patches it, it get's checked into source control and eventually used by Google.....