Not sure about the C-64, but I used to have heating problems with my VIC-20. Had to place a fan on top of it if I was going to use it for a long period of hard core 6502 programming.
"We threw a collective shit-fit when Micro$oft revealed their Smart Tag plans, and they backed right away."
Microsoft doesn't listen much to the public anti-Microsoft whiners.
Really, sorry to disappoint you, but they know whatever they will do you will whine. Besides, you don't buy their product so why should they care?
But Microsoft does listen to the Beta-testers. On the beta newsgroups one of the chief gripes about Smarttags in IE was that it was distracting having various words highlighted like that. They also didn't see it being all that useful.
One of the other interesting things is that a lot of you anti-Microsoft whiners tend to misrepresent stories. Then later on when the story is corrected and the truth comes out you like to claim that you won your battle. I don't see how this is true, but if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, then more power to you.
Well in part you are correct. The smarttags in Office XP do what you say.
For instance if I type in a word somewhat incorrectly, like 'TRavesty', it will auto correct it, but have a blue line under it that if I click on I can tell it to leave it the way it was.
But Smart Tags in Office XP also work exactly like those in IE. At the rollout demo, someone from West Publishing showed how they had made a Smart Tag filter with which if you clicked on a Legal Reference it would go out to Westlaw and pull up the full text of the case.
Hmm. I have Windows 2000 installed on about half a dozen computers. Every one of them runs fine, except one.
That one has a Tyan Trinity 400 motherboard and seems to have a problem with certain video operations causing it to lockup hard. It ain't the OS, it's the motherboard. No BSOD, just a lockup.
It's not unique to my computer either. Doing a search finds many people with the same hardware config having the same problem.
It was worse, before I moved my PCI cards around and put them in different spots. It was locking up any time sound was played as well.
Now I suppose I could blame this on Windows 2000. But then I'm not ignorant, like some people. So I'll blame it on what it is, a crappy motherboard. At some point here I'm going to buy another Intel board, I'm tired of Via weird stuff.
Now that's interesting. All of the Microsoft bashers were predicting the appeals court would upheld the decision because it was so sound and just.
Meanwhile those of us with common sense knew it was loony tunes. The appeals court threw out not only the remedy, but several crucial parts of the case. i.e. the Internet Explorer tying crap.
Now nearly everybody agreed that some of the exclusionary contracts and coercive contracts were violations. We felt that Microsoft should be punished for engaging in such behavior.
But punishing a company for making a better product than a competitor, and thus putting them out of business, is lunacy. Such was the case of Microsoft and Netscape.
Honestly the fact that Jackson bought that line of bullshit is plenty of evidence for bias.
Well your memory is dated. WinCE has been dead for over a year, and the new product is called PocketPC.
It's also doing better than Palm in terms of revenue and income generation. It doesn't have marketshare as the devices are more powerful and thus more expensive and sells fewer units.
But in 2 years time when Moore's law catches up to PocketPC and a device with a 400Mhz processor, TFT color LCD display and wireless ethernet can be had for $200. Where is Palm going to be in this market?
I guess the point is, PocketPC is showing incredible momentum and the best Palm can come up with is a Michael Jordan version with new colors.:(
"Their security model is based on security-through-obscurity and a daddy-knows-best approach. "
Sorry, wrong.
"It is worthwhile when you are a beginner, "
Sorry, been in this industry since '82. Was a Unix admin for a time from '92-'96, and would hardly call myself a beginner.
"You can't tell me all your Windows software is legal with a straight face."
Actually it is. Microsoft provides many ways to purchase their software at a low cost, if your in the know. The most expensive piece I've purchased was Office XP upgrade recently, but only because there was a signifigant bundle/rebate.
"Microsoft clearly aims to control. "
Oh dear.
"The obvious answer is, don't use Microsoft products or services. "
I suppose if you are a beginner and can't see value.
"You obviously enjoy being microsoft's bitch. "
Oh my.
"It costs me nothing but time. "
Which is a worthwhile proposition if time is worth nothing.
"This explains the poor quality of Windows software, especially shareware. "
Which is unfortunately(for Linux) far greater quality than the bulk of the stuff out there released Open Source.
Anyway, been there done that.
Nice attempts at insults, but I'm afraid they don't deflect your obviously poor argument.
Honestly. I owned an Amiga, and while I remember the clipboard I do not recall it ever being as extensible as the one which currently exists in Windows. I had my Amiga from Workbench 1.2 on through 2.04.
As far as the stack overflow goes... It's my understanding that the Sparc processor already disallows this. That is memory defined as stack space cannot be used to execute code. This is something down at the processor level.
It's a good idea, but obviously it is better implemented in the processor. Trying to do it within software does not guarantee what you think it does.
It's curious though, the greatest feature I recall from AmigaDOS was the device labeling. Being able to alias 'CYGNUSED:' to some location on my harddrive 'DH0:Editor/Cygnus' or whatever and run it from that new aliased device was quite cool. Moving the files to DH1: meant only having to rename the device alias in my system startup folder.
That alone was probably the greatest innovation I've seen that has been completely lost.
Unfortunately the Amiga became outdated back in '91 or so. That was when I finally sold mine, but it was very cool when I first bought it in '87.
Your referring to a set of macros written for the TECO editor. The first release of Emacs as a standalone editor occured in 1985.
Interesting, I actually like Hungarian notation when working with C/C++. But you'll be happy to know that it's being replaced in favor of Pascal style notation with.Net.
Anyway, you're right. KDE has come a long ways, it's now up to the stage Windows was in 1994. In another 12 years it just might put Microsoft out of business!
I guess it depends on your needs. Windows 2k certainly contains a very rich scripting environment that is easily as powerful as the BASIC which came with MS-DOS.
One of the pieces that remains somewhat unclear about.Net is how the compiler will be distributed. Right now.Net distribution is in two pieces... The.Net SDK which includes the runtime and compiler, and Visual Studio.Net which includes the IDE, debuggers, etc.
It almost appears as though Microsoft is intending to redistribute the compiler for free, and offer the Visual Studio.Net environment as a value-add product.
I think this makes some sense. It allows development for amateur home users at low cost, but provides the enhanced productivity pieces to corporate users who can afford it.
Basically the same thing. It's used as part of the Remote Installation Services.
Win2k has a capability of net booting a Win2k desktop image off the network. Well, more net installing rather than booting.
It makes it very easy to setup and configure new workstations. Turn computer on, hit F12 or whatever it is to boot off the network, enter username/password and a Win2k image customized for that username is downloaded and installed.
How could you possibly claim that the development environment of Linux is light-years ahead of Microsoft? It is the development tools which are the killer apps. How do you think things like Office are possible?
By the way... Turbo Pascal had the first IDE and was released about 3 years before Emacs. (1982 versus 1985)
I think you need to get out more.
P.S. I still have my copy of Turbo Pascal v1.0 for CP/M-80 if you want to debate that point further.
Microsoft has said they are committed to providing IPv6 support when there is a need for it. As of today, it still has not been clearly defined and not in high use. But you can go to research.microsoft.com and find an implementation.
I guess having many windows managers might be important to someone. I modify and recompile software all the time to change it... that's my job and I can do it as well, if not better, on windows than on Linux.
Microsoft initially started with NT by making it portable. The original development was done on MIPS, and when it was released it supported at least 4 different popular CPU architectures. But there was no market for anything other than Intel architectures.
Again, I would not consider that an "advance" of Linux, since Microsoft was clearly doing it first.
If I'm going to run Web/file/ftp/DNS/mail I'm going to use Win2k because it's clear that Linux is not the way to go. I don't understand why you jump to such a conclusion?
Cnet is saying the SEC is going to start investigating the type of reporting that RedHat just did. i.e. basically claiming they made a profit by ignoring the dollars spent out on mergers, etc.
I'd actually like to see someone name one part which is ahead of Microsoft. Just one.
I've yet to see it, I see lot's of areas where Linux has copied Microsoft, Sun, etc. I see many ares where Linux is years behind Microsoft, Sun, etc.
But I'm not seeing the "innovation" or "advances".
Please help me! Where are these advances? I really want to know!
There is more to Microsoft Windows than it's ability to have a richly integrated cut -n- paste functionality. Besides that advance came back in '91 with Windows 3.1.
I go to local Microsoft events periodically, and I run into people I've worked with in the industry or know personally.
I belong to several email lists which have on them people from all over the country interested in various aspects of Windows programming.
I've been involved in open source development projects using windows, and even utilize sourceforge for our project to some extent.
There are even somewhat famous people that we will go out of our way to see speak. Some work for Microsoft, some don't. Don Box, Roger Sessions, Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, etc. etc.
How is this not a community? What is it that you see as different about Linux that doesn't exist with Windows?
Perhaps it is just that you are unaware of the Windows development community, and the Windows user community is so large that you ignore it?
I find it interesting the various attacks I see upon Microsoft's.Net initiative. Perhaps it is a clever strategy of Microsoft's, but.Net encompasses so many things that these attacks lack focus.
Petrely attacks the Passport services piece of.Net. This is just one small piece, and probably the weakest point of the whole.Net initiative.
Most of us Microsofties are really more interested in the.Net programming framework. ASP.NET, VB.NET, C#, Web services, etc.
I do think there is a want for a single signon for internet websites. I have to keep track of some 90 or so names and passwords for various web sites that I have used. It kind of sucks.
I guess the chief complaint I have with Passport is the stupid hotmail.com account. I really don't see why I need or want a free email account, especially since all I get is spam from it.
So if they could develop a system which was interoperable with my email address that I already have, well then. That'd be cool.
I don't know, I guess in a sense I suspect this Passport thing will have some limited success. I don't think it will become all encompassing though mainly because it's not totally desirable.
Similarly with some of the Hailstorm stuff. Truth is, I think these ideas are good, but I think they need to be decentralized, not centralized. I want to be able to access all my email, various files, whatever from anywhere. But I think that I could do that just as easily myself with the right software, or perhaps as a service from my ISP.
In that sense, I think Microsoft should sell the software, not the service.
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Not sure about the C-64, but I used to have heating problems with my VIC-20. Had to place a fan on top of it if I was going to use it for a long period of hard core 6502 programming.
"We threw a collective shit-fit when Micro$oft revealed their Smart Tag plans, and they backed right away."
Microsoft doesn't listen much to the public anti-Microsoft whiners.
Really, sorry to disappoint you, but they know whatever they will do you will whine. Besides, you don't buy their product so why should they care?
But Microsoft does listen to the Beta-testers. On the beta newsgroups one of the chief gripes about Smarttags in IE was that it was distracting having various words highlighted like that. They also didn't see it being all that useful.
One of the other interesting things is that a lot of you anti-Microsoft whiners tend to misrepresent stories. Then later on when the story is corrected and the truth comes out you like to claim that you won your battle. I don't see how this is true, but if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, then more power to you.
Man, you make me want to come over there and whack you with a "computers are deterministic" clue stick.
Well in part you are correct. The smarttags in Office XP do what you say.
For instance if I type in a word somewhat incorrectly, like 'TRavesty', it will auto correct it, but have a blue line under it that if I click on I can tell it to leave it the way it was.
But Smart Tags in Office XP also work exactly like those in IE. At the rollout demo, someone from West Publishing showed how they had made a Smart Tag filter with which if you clicked on a Legal Reference it would go out to Westlaw and pull up the full text of the case.
It's really actually quite cool.
Hmm. I have Windows 2000 installed on about half a dozen computers. Every one of them runs fine, except one.
That one has a Tyan Trinity 400 motherboard and seems to have a problem with certain video operations causing it to lockup hard. It ain't the OS, it's the motherboard. No BSOD, just a lockup.
It's not unique to my computer either. Doing a search finds many people with the same hardware config having the same problem.
It was worse, before I moved my PCI cards around and put them in different spots. It was locking up any time sound was played as well.
Now I suppose I could blame this on Windows 2000. But then I'm not ignorant, like some people. So I'll blame it on what it is, a crappy motherboard. At some point here I'm going to buy another Intel board, I'm tired of Via weird stuff.
http://www.sodablue.org/Computers/Windows2000/Reli ability.asp
I was at 96 days when I decided to add a USB card for a Printer and Scanner.
Now that's interesting. All of the Microsoft bashers were predicting the appeals court would upheld the decision because it was so sound and just.
Meanwhile those of us with common sense knew it was loony tunes. The appeals court threw out not only the remedy, but several crucial parts of the case. i.e. the Internet Explorer tying crap.
Now nearly everybody agreed that some of the exclusionary contracts and coercive contracts were violations. We felt that Microsoft should be punished for engaging in such behavior.
But punishing a company for making a better product than a competitor, and thus putting them out of business, is lunacy. Such was the case of Microsoft and Netscape.
Honestly the fact that Jackson bought that line of bullshit is plenty of evidence for bias.
Well your memory is dated. WinCE has been dead for over a year, and the new product is called PocketPC.
:(
It's also doing better than Palm in terms of revenue and income generation. It doesn't have marketshare as the devices are more powerful and thus more expensive and sells fewer units.
But in 2 years time when Moore's law catches up to PocketPC and a device with a 400Mhz processor, TFT color LCD display and wireless ethernet can be had for $200. Where is Palm going to be in this market?
I guess the point is, PocketPC is showing incredible momentum and the best Palm can come up with is a Michael Jordan version with new colors.
"Their security model is based on security-through-obscurity and a daddy-knows-best approach. "
Sorry, wrong.
"It is worthwhile when you are a beginner, "
Sorry, been in this industry since '82. Was a Unix admin for a time from '92-'96, and would hardly call myself a beginner.
"You can't tell me all your Windows software is legal with a straight face."
Actually it is. Microsoft provides many ways to purchase their software at a low cost, if your in the know. The most expensive piece I've purchased was Office XP upgrade recently, but only because there was a signifigant bundle/rebate.
"Microsoft clearly aims to control. "
Oh dear.
"The obvious answer is, don't use Microsoft products or services. "
I suppose if you are a beginner and can't see value.
"You obviously enjoy being microsoft's bitch. "
Oh my.
"It costs me nothing but time. "
Which is a worthwhile proposition if time is worth nothing.
"This explains the poor quality of Windows software, especially shareware. "
Which is unfortunately(for Linux) far greater quality than the bulk of the stuff out there released Open Source.
Anyway, been there done that.
Nice attempts at insults, but I'm afraid they don't deflect your obviously poor argument.
Honestly. I owned an Amiga, and while I remember the clipboard I do not recall it ever being as extensible as the one which currently exists in Windows. I had my Amiga from Workbench 1.2 on through 2.04.
As far as the stack overflow goes... It's my understanding that the Sparc processor already disallows this. That is memory defined as stack space cannot be used to execute code. This is something down at the processor level.
It's a good idea, but obviously it is better implemented in the processor. Trying to do it within software does not guarantee what you think it does.
It's curious though, the greatest feature I recall from AmigaDOS was the device labeling. Being able to alias 'CYGNUSED:' to some location on my harddrive 'DH0:Editor/Cygnus' or whatever and run it from that new aliased device was quite cool. Moving the files to DH1: meant only having to rename the device alias in my system startup folder.
That alone was probably the greatest innovation I've seen that has been completely lost.
Unfortunately the Amiga became outdated back in '91 or so. That was when I finally sold mine, but it was very cool when I first bought it in '87.
I did check my facts.
.Net.
http://www.jwz.org/doc/emacs-timeline.html
Your referring to a set of macros written for the TECO editor. The first release of Emacs as a standalone editor occured in 1985.
Interesting, I actually like Hungarian notation when working with C/C++. But you'll be happy to know that it's being replaced in favor of Pascal style notation with
Anyway, you're right. KDE has come a long ways, it's now up to the stage Windows was in 1994. In another 12 years it just might put Microsoft out of business!
I guess it depends on your needs. Windows 2k certainly contains a very rich scripting environment that is easily as powerful as the BASIC which came with MS-DOS.
.Net is how the compiler will be distributed. Right now .Net distribution is in two pieces... The .Net SDK which includes the runtime and compiler, and Visual Studio.Net which includes the IDE, debuggers, etc.
One of the pieces that remains somewhat unclear about
It almost appears as though Microsoft is intending to redistribute the compiler for free, and offer the Visual Studio.Net environment as a value-add product.
I think this makes some sense. It allows development for amateur home users at low cost, but provides the enhanced productivity pieces to corporate users who can afford it.
Basically the same thing. It's used as part of the Remote Installation Services.
Win2k has a capability of net booting a Win2k desktop image off the network. Well, more net installing rather than booting.
It makes it very easy to setup and configure new workstations. Turn computer on, hit F12 or whatever it is to boot off the network, enter username/password and a Win2k image customized for that username is downloaded and installed.
I'm sorry, but...
Are you on crack?
How could you possibly claim that the development environment of Linux is light-years ahead of Microsoft? It is the development tools which are the killer apps. How do you think things like Office are possible?
By the way... Turbo Pascal had the first IDE and was released about 3 years before Emacs. (1982 versus 1985)
I think you need to get out more.
P.S. I still have my copy of Turbo Pascal v1.0 for CP/M-80 if you want to debate that point further.
Ok, it's clear from your response that you obviously are unfamiliar with Windows.
I could go through point by point, but... come on. You're aware Win2k server comes with TFTP server as part of the OS?
You're aware that all of those free office suites for Linux are also free for Windows? Staroffice most notably.
Come on! Give me something challenging. I want an advance that has some meat to it!
Microsoft has said they are committed to providing IPv6 support when there is a need for it. As of today, it still has not been clearly defined and not in high use. But you can go to research.microsoft.com and find an implementation.
I guess having many windows managers might be important to someone. I modify and recompile software all the time to change it... that's my job and I can do it as well, if not better, on windows than on Linux.
Microsoft initially started with NT by making it portable. The original development was done on MIPS, and when it was released it supported at least 4 different popular CPU architectures. But there was no market for anything other than Intel architectures.
Again, I would not consider that an "advance" of Linux, since Microsoft was clearly doing it first.
If I'm going to run Web/file/ftp/DNS/mail I'm going to use Win2k because it's clear that Linux is not the way to go. I don't understand why you jump to such a conclusion?
Yet at my office out of 100 people perhaps 15 of them have iPaqs, and another 30 have Palm.
The iPaq is extremely popular, and I'm starting to see them everywhere. Not as often as the Palm, but still...
Nobody will probably see this, but:
m l? tag=mn_hd
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1007-200-6333426.ht
Cnet is saying the SEC is going to start investigating the type of reporting that RedHat just did. i.e. basically claiming they made a profit by ignoring the dollars spent out on mergers, etc.
I'd actually like to see someone name one part which is ahead of Microsoft. Just one.
I've yet to see it, I see lot's of areas where Linux has copied Microsoft, Sun, etc. I see many ares where Linux is years behind Microsoft, Sun, etc.
But I'm not seeing the "innovation" or "advances".
Please help me! Where are these advances? I really want to know!
There is more to Microsoft Windows than it's ability to have a richly integrated cut -n- paste functionality. Besides that advance came back in '91 with Windows 3.1.
What do you mean there is no "Windows community"?
I go to local Microsoft events periodically, and I run into people I've worked with in the industry or know personally.
I belong to several email lists which have on them people from all over the country interested in various aspects of Windows programming.
I've been involved in open source development projects using windows, and even utilize sourceforge for our project to some extent.
There are even somewhat famous people that we will go out of our way to see speak. Some work for Microsoft, some don't. Don Box, Roger Sessions, Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, etc. etc.
How is this not a community? What is it that you see as different about Linux that doesn't exist with Windows?
Perhaps it is just that you are unaware of the Windows development community, and the Windows user community is so large that you ignore it?
I find it interesting the various attacks I see upon Microsoft's .Net initiative. Perhaps it is a clever strategy of Microsoft's, but .Net encompasses so many things that these attacks lack focus.
.Net. This is just one small piece, and probably the weakest point of the whole .Net initiative.
.Net programming framework. ASP.NET, VB.NET, C#, Web services, etc.
Petrely attacks the Passport services piece of
Most of us Microsofties are really more interested in the
I do think there is a want for a single signon for internet websites. I have to keep track of some 90 or so names and passwords for various web sites that I have used. It kind of sucks.
I guess the chief complaint I have with Passport is the stupid hotmail.com account. I really don't see why I need or want a free email account, especially since all I get is spam from it.
So if they could develop a system which was interoperable with my email address that I already have, well then. That'd be cool.
I don't know, I guess in a sense I suspect this Passport thing will have some limited success. I don't think it will become all encompassing though mainly because it's not totally desirable.
Similarly with some of the Hailstorm stuff. Truth is, I think these ideas are good, but I think they need to be decentralized, not centralized. I want to be able to access all my email, various files, whatever from anywhere. But I think that I could do that just as easily myself with the right software, or perhaps as a service from my ISP.
In that sense, I think Microsoft should sell the software, not the service.
Keep in mind that the corporations are paying for the research above and beyond tax dollars.
I think perhaps the question is whether the price tag is too low, or they have too much control on what gets done.
Am I the only one puzzled by an announcement that a company is profitable despite losing over $20 million in the quarter?
:)
Yeah yeah... one time charges. By why do they keep making one time charges once per quarter?
What the hell are you babbling about?
If you have issues with trying to understand what I wrote, feel free to email me about it.
Sorry, I didn't read the article with my tinfoil beanie on. I must have succumbed to the mind altering rays.