It's also because you need the plug-in to view the Curl applets, if you never heard of it before and the first time you go there and can't view the page. That would be a bad thing.
The Indian gentleman works with me as a civilian, he is not even aware of my military service and he has been here along time and I doubt that he is afraid of anyone here.
My Polish girlfriend likes to say that Americans don't have respect for religion or family. But when I point out to her that her cousins are stealing from her family and don't go to church and they still live in Poland she has a hard time explaining that one away.
Basically, the point is, America is big, America has money, and we're not shy about it.
One comedian said, regarding Australians views on America, "We didn't having stealing until you all came along." RIIIiight. thanks.
Not really, I served for a while overseas in the Army and the attitude towards many of us was often welcoming and understanding. I visited with my friends local wives families while I was over there and they were genuinely open to us and would make us dinner and were excellent hostesses. And now that I am back in the states, I have many friends from Europe who say that most of the people who like to complain about Americans and America are also the people who like to complain in general. Another Indian gentleman whom I work with was telling another co-worker who had just moved from India to not be afraid to ask for help from one of us American's because we're so friendly and willing to help. So, I don't know where you get your facts, or if you've ever been out of the country or met anyone from Europe or elsewhere to derive your opinion. I don't understand why everyone is always so down on America.
And I see your point, you say that it must be so because you believe it to be so. I think that was a popular idea way back in the Inquisition and the Witch hunts.
I would take a brave notion and suggest that maybe, just possibly this guy who wrote this article is VERY FUCKING SMART and has spent a GREAT DEAL OF TIME THINKING AND STUDYING AND.... doing the "Math"
I understand what you are saying about Monterey, but believe me I traveled as much as I could and I visited Santa Cruz, San Jose, Palo Alto, San Franciso, Carmel etc. while I was stationed there for about a year.
The little township I grew up in went through a very similiar transformation. When I was a lil' lad I used to be able to camp practically in my backyard. Fishing, farms, hiking, the works. It was a 2 mile walk to a White Hen. Now there are almost no farms left. The farm that's left, Bengstons Farm, who every Halloween has a pumpkin patch and hay rides has gone from being a little stand behind their old 5n10 type store to being a fully fledged event that has traffic backed up in every direction for days way before and after halloween. They even built bleachers and special buildings it got so big.
My point is that these A*Holes have no idea what it was like when we were just a bunch of local people going to these things. It was a fun diversion, not a friggin' carnival. People have lost their minds.
Now our area has no real farms or land left and our government has to allot special "preservation land" so the idiots don't trample all over it. We now have no stars to see at night, higher taxes, smaller plots of land, pollution, crowded roads, more police on the street to hassle you, and all in all more problems than before. My father said it best when he said, "They come here to leave the city, but don't know how to leave the city behind." These people think that they are better than us and are going to teach us savages a thing or two about civilization. HA, they can keep it.
Maybe if there was a little more forethought put into this growth and not just this build,build,build mentallity we would not have allot of the problems that I've seen mentioned in some of the posts. People would be more comfortable, and more relaxed and generally we would all realize that there really is plenty of space for everyone if we all take a moment and think about what we are doing.
Is that supposed to be a compliment or an insult?
When I was there I was in the Army, not the NAVY!
But then again, it's the Clinton Army, so who knows?
I'm planning on making an upgrade from my brown un-padded folding chair, the one that when I get really antsy on I use a pillow to pad, to a padded folding chair.
"Big Lots" has nice keyboards for only $8 although they'll make your hands fall off in a couple years, they're only 8 bucks!
Yeah, we always used to stick another game in on top of the game that wouldn't stay down. Using another controller worked as well. The thing about using the cartridge method though was that it had to be in the little plastic sleeve, otherwise it wasn't thick enough to keep it perfectly in place.
Ninja Gaiden was the best, then Castlevania, then Metroid!!!!
C'mon now. Anyone can see the obvious social differences between Germany circa 1920-1930 and USA circa NOW!.
#1 We have plentiful resources for all.
#2 We are more socially adept at accepting foreigners and other non-mainstream societies.
#3 Although our leaders may be dumb and crude, they aren't insane either.
#4 The shortage we are seeing is also not involving the necessities of life, ie lack of farmers, factory workers, skilled/unskilled labor
#5 Nobody in America is starving because of the H1B's or because of most of the immingrant workers. How many white people do you see clamboring for a lawn care or McDeath job?
We in modern America are much more adept than Germans have ever been at handling outsiders. Germany is an extremely homogenous society and doesn't bode well for strangers of any kind. I was a soldier there for over a year and although I thought it was a beautiful and interesting place, I can definately see where the peoples minds were during the WWI and WWII era just from the way they act now. Also we don't have any sign of a recession or depression on the horizon.
"I apologize for any ramblings I have made, unless they made sense, in that case 'I told you so!'"
An explanation first, by all rights, I "should" be an anti-alien proponent but I am not, actually quite the opposite. And here's why and how I think a lot of this argument is based on people who are afraid of competition, don't understand what this country is actually based on and want everything for free.
As a Boy Scout I was taught from a very young age to love America, and then doubling up and being in JROTC taught me the same. I was practically raised in a para-military uniform. I even joined the National Guard while I was still in HS, matter of fact I spent my Junior-Senior summer in Basic training(That's Basic as in Hut-Two-Three-Fower, not If-Then-Else). As I hadn't actually experienced any of the world at that point, I was an extreme Xenophobe and believed that America should close it's borders and put guns on top of them. (BTW I already started my love of Computers in the BSA when I earned my Computing merit badge around 1988 or thereabouts:-) and helped fix Sergeants computers in my AIT immediately after HS graduation.)
After wandering around for a year after HS I went Active Duty. THIS CHANGED EVERYTHING!!! After spending a short tour in Bosnia I realized, #1 America rocks. #2 War sucks.
America is absolutely the best country in the world, even for all of it's problems. 99.9% of the people never have to worry about getting shot at, being starved, being raped by government order, being forced to work for the government. Can you imagine what it is like to wake up and wonder who is in charge today, and if they like the group you are in enough to let you live through the day? Many of these former Soviet countries are DIRT POOR and the only chance they ever will have to be something other than poor is to come to America! Most of THOSE WHO COME HERE ON THESE VISA'S ARE NOT FREE RIDERS LOOKING TO SCAM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC!!! If you were in their shoes where would you want to be? And if you are from one of these countries, you should realize I am not knocking your country. America IS the land of opportunity, that's why you're here. But, the only way we can truly grow as a nation and as a people is by continuing to welcome those who not only want to be with us, but who want to make our country prosper and share their knowledge with us.
I know many H1B's who are currently being manipulated by the system. People who came to America, with HIGH level degrees, who have studied for years with the dream of coming to America and becoming one of us and adding to our rich heritage. But they are stuck not knowing where they will be tomorrow, they are not much better off then they were in their home country. If it wasn't for these "foreigners" coming to America, I would still be working for a trucking company. I would never have ever tried to become a Programmer. I always thought it was for people who were super intelligent and gifted. IF these people who came from America were out to rape the American public do you think that they would spend the time sitting down with some Average Joe and teaching him how to program and think logically? NO, they would have been happy to see me toil at something I hated and never would have lifted a finger to intervene. All of this with no promise of ANYTHING in return.
I witness the suffering of my friends everyday. I know how hard they have worked and how frustrated they are with their hands tied. Why don't we believe and follow our own cherished words? Why don't we continue the tradition of a proud people with open hearts who know that the way to victory is not to become afraid and close-minded, but to welcome the thoughts and ideas of a varied people.
The point I am trying to make it that if you are afraid of losing your jobs to people who are more qualified, dedicated and harder working than yourselves. Then maybe you should re-evaluate your own dedication? Freedom doesn't mean that everything is handed to you, it only means you have to chance to succeed or fail, Freedom has nothing to do with the outcome except that you get to chose it. And that the whole idea of allowing people to come to America to only work for 6 years, then having to return to their country reeks of indentured servitude and turning people into mercenaries. These people should be given their due citizenship's because they have proven they want and can make America a better place.
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe FREE!
An explanation first, by all rights, I "should" be an anti-alien proponent but I am not, actually quite the opposite. And here's why and how I think a lot of this argument is based on people who are afraid of competition, don't understand what this country is actually based on and want everything for free.
As a Boy Scout I was taught from a very young age to love America, and then doubling up and being in JROTC taught me the same. I was practically raised in a para-military uniform. I even joined the National Guard while I was still in HS, matter of fact I spent my Junior-Senior summer in Basic training(That's Basic as in Hut-Two-Three-Fower, not If-Then-Else). As I hadn't actually experienced any of the world at that point, I was an extreme Xenophobe and believed that America should close it's borders and put guns on top of them. (BTW I already started my love of Computers in the BSA when I earned my Computing merit badge around 1988 or thereabouts:-) and helped fix Sergeants computers in my AIT immediately after HS graduation.)
After wandering around for a year after HS I went Active Duty. THIS CHANGED EVERYTHING!!! After spending a short tour in Bosnia I realized, #1 America rocks. #2 War sucks.
America is absolutely the best country in the world, even for all of it's problems. 99.9% of the people never have to worry about getting shot at, being starved, being raped by government order, being forced to work for the government. Can you imagine what it is like to wake up and wonder who is in charge today, and if they like the group you are in enough to let you live through the day? Many of these former Soviet countries are DIRT POOR and the only chance they ever will have to be something other than poor is to come to America! Most of THOSE WHO COME HERE ON THESE VISA'S ARE NOT FREE RIDERS LOOKING TO SCAM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC!!! If you were in their shoes where would you want to be? And if you are from one of these countries, you should realize I am not knocking your country. America IS the land of opportunity, that's why you're here. But, the only way we can truly grow as a nation and as a people is by continuing to welcome those who not only want to be with us, but who want to make our country prosper and share their knowledge with us.
I know many H1B's who are currently being manipulated by the system. People who came to America, with HIGH level degrees, who have studied for years with the dream of coming to America and becoming one of us and adding to our rich heritage. But they are stuck not knowing where they will be tomorrow, they are not much better off then they were in their home country. If it wasn't for these "foreigners" coming to America, I would still be working for a trucking company. I would never have ever tried to become a Programmer. I always thought it was for people who were super intelligent and gifted. IF these people who came from America were out to rape the American public do you think that they would spend the time sitting down with some Average Joe and teaching him how to program and think logically? NO, they would have been happy to see me toil at something I hated and never would have lifted a finger to intervene. All of this with no promise of ANYTHING in return.
I witness the suffering of my friends everyday. I know how hard they have worked and how frustrated they are with their hands tied. Why don't we believe and follow our own cherished words? Why don't we continue the tradition of a proud people with open hearts who know that the way to victory is not to become afraid and close-minded, but to welcome the thoughts and ideas of a varied people.
The point I am trying to make it that if you are afraid of losing your jobs to people who are more qualified, dedicated and harder working than yourselves. Then maybe you should re-evaluate your own dedication? Freedom doesn't mean that everything is handed to you, it only means you have to chance to succeed or fail, Freedom has nothing to do with the outcome except that you get to chose it. And that the whole idea of allowing people to come to America to only work for 6 years, then having to return to their country reeks of indentured servitude and turning people into mercenaries. These people should be given their due citizenship's because they have proven they want and can make America a better place.
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe FREE!
Slashdot Mirror
Where am I supposed to get my news??? I guess Slashdot got Slashdotted.
Because Sun has it locked up tighter than an Martha Stewart's hieney.
It's also because you need the plug-in to view the Curl applets, if you never heard of it before and the first time you go there and can't view the page. That would be a bad thing.
The Indian gentleman works with me as a civilian, he is not even aware of my military service and he has been here along time and I doubt that he is afraid of anyone here.
My Polish girlfriend likes to say that Americans don't have respect for religion or family. But when I point out to her that her cousins are stealing from her family and don't go to church and they still live in Poland she has a hard time explaining that one away.
Basically, the point is, America is big, America has money, and we're not shy about it.
One comedian said, regarding Australians views on America, "We didn't having stealing until you all came along." RIIIiight.
thanks.
Not really, I served for a while overseas in the Army and the attitude towards many of us was often welcoming and understanding. I visited with my friends local wives families while I was over there and they were genuinely open to us and would make us dinner and were excellent hostesses. And now that I am back in the states, I have many friends from Europe who say that most of the people who like to complain about Americans and America are also the people who like to complain in general. Another Indian gentleman whom I work with was telling another co-worker who had just moved from India to not be afraid to ask for help from one of us American's because we're so friendly and willing to help. So, I don't know where you get your facts, or if you've ever been out of the country or met anyone from Europe or elsewhere to derive your opinion. I don't understand why everyone is always so down on America.
And I see your point, you say that it must be so because you believe it to be so. I think that was a popular idea way back in the Inquisition and the Witch hunts.
I would take a brave notion and suggest that maybe, just possibly this guy who wrote this article is VERY FUCKING SMART and has spent a GREAT DEAL OF TIME THINKING AND STUDYING AND.... doing the "Math"
the stuff of legends.
I understand what you are saying about Monterey, but believe me I traveled as much as I could and I visited Santa Cruz, San Jose, Palo Alto, San Franciso, Carmel etc. while I was stationed there for about a year.
The little township I grew up in went through a very similiar transformation. When I was a lil' lad I used to be able to camp practically in my backyard. Fishing, farms, hiking, the works. It was a 2 mile walk to a White Hen. Now there are almost no farms left. The farm that's left, Bengstons Farm, who every Halloween has a pumpkin patch and hay rides has gone from being a little stand behind their old 5n10 type store to being a fully fledged event that has traffic backed up in every direction for days way before and after halloween. They even built bleachers and special buildings it got so big.
My point is that these A*Holes have no idea what it was like when we were just a bunch of local people going to these things. It was a fun diversion, not a friggin' carnival. People have lost their minds.
Now our area has no real farms or land left and our government has to allot special "preservation land" so the idiots don't trample all over it. We now have no stars to see at night, higher taxes, smaller plots of land, pollution, crowded roads, more police on the street to hassle you, and all in all more problems than before. My father said it best when he said, "They come here to leave the city, but don't know how to leave the city behind." These people think that they are better than us and are going to teach us savages a thing or two about civilization. HA, they can keep it.
Maybe if there was a little more forethought put into this growth and not just this build,build,build mentallity we would not have allot of the problems that I've seen mentioned in some of the posts. People would be more comfortable, and more relaxed and generally we would all realize that there really is plenty of space for everyone if we all take a moment and think about what we are doing.
Is that supposed to be a compliment or an insult?
When I was there I was in the Army, not the NAVY!
But then again, it's the Clinton Army, so who knows?
move to San Francisco for a web job, but after having a stint in Monterey I knew that no matter what the hype is about CA, they don't like outsiders.
Give me sweet home Chicago anyday, even when it's 20 below!
I'm planning on making an upgrade from my brown un-padded folding chair, the one that when I get really antsy on I use a pillow to pad, to a padded folding chair. "Big Lots" has nice keyboards for only $8 although they'll make your hands fall off in a couple years, they're only 8 bucks!
Yeah, we always used to stick another game in on top of the game that wouldn't stay down. Using another controller worked as well. The thing about using the cartridge method though was that it had to be in the little plastic sleeve, otherwise it wasn't thick enough to keep it perfectly in place. Ninja Gaiden was the best, then Castlevania, then Metroid!!!!
C'mon now. Anyone can see the obvious social differences between Germany circa 1920-1930 and USA circa NOW!.
We in modern America are much more adept than Germans have ever been at handling outsiders. Germany is an extremely homogenous society and doesn't bode well for strangers of any kind. I was a soldier there for over a year and although I thought it was a beautiful and interesting place, I can definately see where the peoples minds were during the WWI and WWII era just from the way they act now. Also we don't have any sign of a recession or depression on the horizon.
"I apologize for any ramblings I have made, unless they made sense, in that case 'I told you so!'"
Isn't one of the things that this country needs
An explanation first, by all rights, I "should" be an anti-alien proponent but I am not, actually quite the opposite. And here's why and how I think a lot of this argument is based on people who are afraid of competition, don't understand what this country is actually based on and want everything for free.
As a Boy Scout I was taught from a very young age to love America, and then doubling up and being in JROTC taught me the same. I was practically raised in a para-military uniform. I even joined the National Guard while I was still in HS, matter of fact I spent my Junior-Senior summer in Basic training(That's Basic as in Hut-Two-Three-Fower, not If-Then-Else). As I hadn't actually experienced any of the world at that point, I was an extreme Xenophobe and believed that America should close it's borders and put guns on top of them. (BTW I already started my love of Computers in the BSA when I earned my Computing merit badge around 1988 or thereabouts :-) and helped fix Sergeants computers in my AIT immediately after HS graduation.)
After wandering around for a year after HS I went Active Duty. THIS CHANGED EVERYTHING!!! After spending a short tour in Bosnia I realized, #1 America rocks. #2 War sucks.
America is absolutely the best country in the world, even for all of it's problems. 99.9% of the people never have to worry about getting shot at, being starved, being raped by government order, being forced to work for the government. Can you imagine what it is like to wake up and wonder who is in charge today, and if they like the group you are in enough to let you live through the day? Many of these former Soviet countries are DIRT POOR and the only chance they ever will have to be something other than poor is to come to America! Most of THOSE WHO COME HERE ON THESE VISA'S ARE NOT FREE RIDERS LOOKING TO SCAM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC!!! If you were in their shoes where would you want to be? And if you are from one of these countries, you should realize I am not knocking your country. America IS the land of opportunity, that's why you're here. But, the only way we can truly grow as a nation and as a people is by continuing to welcome those who not only want to be with us, but who want to make our country prosper and share their knowledge with us.
I know many H1B's who are currently being manipulated by the system. People who came to America, with HIGH level degrees, who have studied for years with the dream of coming to America and becoming one of us and adding to our rich heritage. But they are stuck not knowing where they will be tomorrow, they are not much better off then they were in their home country. If it wasn't for these "foreigners" coming to America, I would still be working for a trucking company. I would never have ever tried to become a Programmer. I always thought it was for people who were super intelligent and gifted. IF these people who came from America were out to rape the American public do you think that they would spend the time sitting down with some Average Joe and teaching him how to program and think logically? NO, they would have been happy to see me toil at something I hated and never would have lifted a finger to intervene. All of this with no promise of ANYTHING in return.
I witness the suffering of my friends everyday. I know how hard they have worked and how frustrated they are with their hands tied. Why don't we believe and follow our own cherished words? Why don't we continue the tradition of a proud people with open hearts who know that the way to victory is not to become afraid and close-minded, but to welcome the thoughts and ideas of a varied people.
The point I am trying to make it that if you are afraid of losing your jobs to people who are more qualified, dedicated and harder working than yourselves. Then maybe you should re-evaluate your own dedication? Freedom doesn't mean that everything is handed to you, it only means you have to chance to succeed or fail, Freedom has nothing to do with the outcome except that you get to chose it. And that the whole idea of allowing people to come to America to only work for 6 years, then having to return to their country reeks of indentured servitude and turning people into mercenaries. These people should be given their due citizenship's because they have proven they want and can make America a better place.
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe FREE!
free?http://www.ugeek.com/news/geeknews/jan2000/ge e2000320000988.htm
Freedom - it's the most expensive idea ever known I apologize for any ramblings I have made, unless they make sense, in that case. I told you so!
Hear, Hear!!!
An explanation first, by all rights, I "should" be an anti-alien proponent but I am not, actually quite the opposite. And here's why and how I think a lot of this argument is based on people who are afraid of competition, don't understand what this country is actually based on and want everything for free.
As a Boy Scout I was taught from a very young age to love America, and then doubling up and being in JROTC taught me the same. I was practically raised in a para-military uniform. I even joined the National Guard while I was still in HS, matter of fact I spent my Junior-Senior summer in Basic training(That's Basic as in Hut-Two-Three-Fower, not If-Then-Else). As I hadn't actually experienced any of the world at that point, I was an extreme Xenophobe and believed that America should close it's borders and put guns on top of them. (BTW I already started my love of Computers in the BSA when I earned my Computing merit badge around 1988 or thereabouts :-) and helped fix Sergeants computers in my AIT immediately after HS graduation.)
After wandering around for a year after HS I went Active Duty. THIS CHANGED EVERYTHING!!! After spending a short tour in Bosnia I realized, #1 America rocks. #2 War sucks.
America is absolutely the best country in the world, even for all of it's problems. 99.9% of the people never have to worry about getting shot at, being starved, being raped by government order, being forced to work for the government. Can you imagine what it is like to wake up and wonder who is in charge today, and if they like the group you are in enough to let you live through the day? Many of these former Soviet countries are DIRT POOR and the only chance they ever will have to be something other than poor is to come to America! Most of THOSE WHO COME HERE ON THESE VISA'S ARE NOT FREE RIDERS LOOKING TO SCAM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC!!! If you were in their shoes where would you want to be? And if you are from one of these countries, you should realize I am not knocking your country. America IS the land of opportunity, that's why you're here. But, the only way we can truly grow as a nation and as a people is by continuing to welcome those who not only want to be with us, but who want to make our country prosper and share their knowledge with us.
I know many H1B's who are currently being manipulated by the system. People who came to America, with HIGH level degrees, who have studied for years with the dream of coming to America and becoming one of us and adding to our rich heritage. But they are stuck not knowing where they will be tomorrow, they are not much better off then they were in their home country. If it wasn't for these "foreigners" coming to America, I would still be working for a trucking company. I would never have ever tried to become a Programmer. I always thought it was for people who were super intelligent and gifted. IF these people who came from America were out to rape the American public do you think that they would spend the time sitting down with some Average Joe and teaching him how to program and think logically? NO, they would have been happy to see me toil at something I hated and never would have lifted a finger to intervene. All of this with no promise of ANYTHING in return.
I witness the suffering of my friends everyday. I know how hard they have worked and how frustrated they are with their hands tied. Why don't we believe and follow our own cherished words? Why don't we continue the tradition of a proud people with open hearts who know that the way to victory is not to become afraid and close-minded, but to welcome the thoughts and ideas of a varied people.
The point I am trying to make it that if you are afraid of losing your jobs to people who are more qualified, dedicated and harder working than yourselves. Then maybe you should re-evaluate your own dedication? Freedom doesn't mean that everything is handed to you, it only means you have to chance to succeed or fail, Freedom has nothing to do with the outcome except that you get to chose it. And that the whole idea of allowing people to come to America to only work for 6 years, then having to return to their country reeks of indentured servitude and turning people into mercenaries. These people should be given their due citizenship's because they have proven they want and can make America a better place.
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe FREE!
free?http://www.ugeek.com/news/geeknews/jan2000/ge e2000320000988.htm
Freedom - it's the most expensive idea ever known I apologize for any ramblings I have made, unless they make sense, in that case. I told you so!