Teergrubes do the same thing without the necessity of getting Microsoft into the act.
All it does is act as a tarpit to slow down the spammer, who finds himself needing more and more open relays that stay connected for longer and longer periods of time sending less and less mail. And the best part is that it has no real effect on onesie-twosie emails from point to point.
It's been reported on in different comments here on/. -- check them out.
I thought that an individual...can't apply for clearance on their own
I heard the same thing. Also, security clearance is rather expensive for a company to secure for a person -- they prefer someone with security clearance that's still active.
My daughter's BF just left the Army. He has a Top Secret clearance good through 2007. Jump on this, say I.
He works at Hollywood Video. Sometimes youth is wasted on the young.
The further along through the development cycle you are, the harder (and more expensive) the change is. Sitting down and coding is a foolish way to think that productivity gains will happen. It'll simply cause ill-thought out and badly interoperating enterprise systems.
And despite your sniff at "enterprise architecture" let's keep one thing in mind; both the coding and the planning are there not as an end in itself, but as a means for the enterprise to make more money so that you can continue to code. If you're not doing anything useful for the enterprise, then it has a way of meting out retribution (in the form of closed companies and layoffs.)
Okay, but I still don't get your comment that the connection is held open after the mail is delivered. According to the teergrubing FAQ it just takes its own sweet time about answering. Once the mail is delivered, however, the connection is closed.
How will this 'take a connection on your own machine' if the connection is between the spammer and the mail swerver? I'm confused by your comment. The FA described the connection between the spammer and the SMTP host, not the POP connection to your mail client.
The first time that I heard about a teergrube to use as a way to block -- or at least make it damned difficult for -- spammers I was intrigued at its simplicity. And tho' I find references to it all over the 'net, I don't think that it has been mainstreamed yet, and frankly I don't know why. Have spammers developed a counter to a teergrube? Or do mail admins simply not know enough about them?
If MS is really serious about security and good quality software, they would put a contact on the front page and offer reward for anyone who spots a new major bug.
The problem with that -- and the whole problem with having a public bug-report channel -- is part of a larger Catch-22. MS has painted themselves into this corner by being wildly successful, by being the common denominator of software, and by aspiring to this behavior as the normal order of things. If they were to turn around and now publish a "bug tracking" access point, it would quickly be overwhelmed by the great unwashed who chalk up their inability to use the software as "a bug." Don't get me wrong, I love users, because they give me so much free entertainment, but MS has to have some way of filtering them.
Hmm. What can you do? Vet the users similar to the way that you vet/. posts? Now that would be cool. Users who post drivel and who ask where the 'any' key is would get -5 or -10 mods, and users who actually nailed bugs would get + points.
No, I think given the current framework the only way you're going to tickle the MS 'elephant' is with a large enough noise. A bug tracking line just wouldn't cut it unless they re-engineered a lot of their business processes.
No, you didn't dream it. Conventional wisdom is to keep a space vehicle wall thin enough to keep oxygen in, and that's pretty much it. The lunar lander had tinfoil walls IIRC.
Thicker walls cause all sorts of problems with secondary emissions when radiation hits them -- to say nothing of the mass penalty to keep it aloft. I'd rather be in a floating tin can that kept the air in and was relatively peaceful than a thick wall that was the equivalent of an operating xray machine.
In a competition between space junk and solar radiation, I'll roll the dice for space junk all the time. Solar radiation is perpetual unless you're in the shadow of the earth.:)
Heh. Don't have to. The first talking vending machine I saw was in a campground in the Poconos, about 30 miles from any civilization. And the frigging thing was telling me how happy it was to have been afforded the privilege to vend me a soda. Douglas Adams must've been spinning in his grave, and he wasn't even dead yet.
I think if I started getting ads played to me in the mall that that would cement it. The End Times Would Be Here.
"time to call the doctor." Come on. They just set up a new translation table. Or you change your PIN.
PIN?
You damn right. It's sheerest folly to think I'm gonna let a vending machine nick me for a pop without entering a PIN. Security is something you possess and something you know. This is breaking the most fundamental (no pun intended) tenets of security based transactions.
Not to mention that I could be persuaded that The End Times Are Near as well, but I don't go into a Frothing Fit every time some invasion of privacy rears its ugly head.
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From the article: "Tim O'Reilly, Foo's founder, made sure that basics like food, showers, and meeting space were available..."
Well, to be fair the original article said that you were simply a "co-inventor" of XML. So there.
:)
And I'm about to take a class in it starting next Tuesday, so it better be good.
I quoted it hastily, from memory. My bad.
(he begins to shake...)
And APL which originated at IBM.
There are two things a man must do
Before his life is run;
Write three lines in APL
And make the buggers run.
-- Stan Kelly-Bootle, "The Devil's DP Dictionary"
Teergrubes do the same thing without the necessity of getting Microsoft into the act.
/. -- check them out.
All it does is act as a tarpit to slow down the spammer, who finds himself needing more and more open relays that stay connected for longer and longer periods of time sending less and less mail. And the best part is that it has no real effect on onesie-twosie emails from point to point.
It's been reported on in different comments here on
I thought that an individual...can't apply for clearance on their own
I heard the same thing. Also, security clearance is rather expensive for a company to secure for a person -- they prefer someone with security clearance that's still active.
My daughter's BF just left the Army. He has a Top Secret clearance good through 2007. Jump on this, say I.
He works at Hollywood Video. Sometimes youth is wasted on the young.
FCC mandates spurious radiation to be below a certain level
Is this (the mining of the LO signals) the electronic equivalent of "dumpster diving?"
Just a thought.
The further along through the development cycle you are, the harder (and more expensive) the change is. Sitting down and coding is a foolish way to think that productivity gains will happen. It'll simply cause ill-thought out and badly interoperating enterprise systems.
And despite your sniff at "enterprise architecture" let's keep one thing in mind; both the coding and the planning are there not as an end in itself, but as a means for the enterprise to make more money so that you can continue to code. If you're not doing anything useful for the enterprise, then it has a way of meting out retribution (in the form of closed companies and layoffs.)
Okay, but I still don't get your comment that the connection is held open after the mail is delivered. According to the teergrubing FAQ it just takes its own sweet time about answering. Once the mail is delivered, however, the connection is closed.
Or am I misreading it?
How will this 'take a connection on your own machine' if the connection is between the spammer and the mail swerver? I'm confused by your comment. The FA described the connection between the spammer and the SMTP host, not the POP connection to your mail client.
The first time that I heard about a teergrube to use as a way to block -- or at least make it damned difficult for -- spammers I was intrigued at its simplicity. And tho' I find references to it all over the 'net, I don't think that it has been mainstreamed yet, and frankly I don't know why. Have spammers developed a counter to a teergrube? Or do mail admins simply not know enough about them?
If MS is really serious about security and good quality software, they would put a contact on the front page and offer reward for anyone who spots a new major bug.
/. posts? Now that would be cool. Users who post drivel and who ask where the 'any' key is would get -5 or -10 mods, and users who actually nailed bugs would get + points.
The problem with that -- and the whole problem with having a public bug-report channel -- is part of a larger Catch-22. MS has painted themselves into this corner by being wildly successful, by being the common denominator of software, and by aspiring to this behavior as the normal order of things. If they were to turn around and now publish a "bug tracking" access point, it would quickly be overwhelmed by the great unwashed who chalk up their inability to use the software as "a bug." Don't get me wrong, I love users, because they give me so much free entertainment, but MS has to have some way of filtering them.
Hmm. What can you do? Vet the users similar to the way that you vet
No, I think given the current framework the only way you're going to tickle the MS 'elephant' is with a large enough noise. A bug tracking line just wouldn't cut it unless they re-engineered a lot of their business processes.
No, you didn't dream it. Conventional wisdom is to keep a space vehicle wall thin enough to keep oxygen in, and that's pretty much it. The lunar lander had tinfoil walls IIRC.
:)
Thicker walls cause all sorts of problems with secondary emissions when radiation hits them -- to say nothing of the mass penalty to keep it aloft. I'd rather be in a floating tin can that kept the air in and was relatively peaceful than a thick wall that was the equivalent of an operating xray machine.
In a competition between space junk and solar radiation, I'll roll the dice for space junk all the time. Solar radiation is perpetual unless you're in the shadow of the earth.
Heh. Don't have to. The first talking vending machine I saw was in a campground in the Poconos, about 30 miles from any civilization. And the frigging thing was telling me how happy it was to have been afforded the privilege to vend me a soda. Douglas Adams must've been spinning in his grave, and he wasn't even dead yet.
I think if I started getting ads played to me in the mall that that would cement it. The End Times Would Be Here.
"time to call the doctor." Come on. They just set up a new translation table. Or you change your PIN.
PIN?
You damn right. It's sheerest folly to think I'm gonna let a vending machine nick me for a pop without entering a PIN. Security is something you possess and something you know. This is breaking the most fundamental (no pun intended) tenets of security based transactions.
Not to mention that I could be persuaded that The End Times Are Near as well, but I don't go into a Frothing Fit every time some invasion of privacy rears its ugly head.
Yeah, the shirt's not too bad either. ;)