the parsers and writing in today's free competition games often surpass those in their commercial ancestors
Aye they do, but do they have the sheer playabity of the classic adventure? ..From getting the bird in the cage to Spelunker Today, the thing oozed class.
If you should not have played it, go to Snacky Pete's for a copy.
This is primea facea an amazing idea, one thing that occurs to me is that, while it initially seems that the karma in the system remains fixed, if lots of positive moderation is being done this way, modererators are going to do more marking down (if only because all the good comments have been moderated up). This could lead to a 'karma depression', with certain accounts (~11) hoarding karma for the long winters of low karma discontent
people browsing on +3 will believe that slashdot is broken, as no comments will ever reach such lofty heights. People will start exchanging money for karma, perhaps even karma whoreing in the literal sense.
Taco might have to start dumping karma on the market, trying to inroduce bouyency, the possibilities are endless.
Letting people pay to mark down comments would have an even stronger effect, as 2 points would be lost from the system, if this happens, what price a +5 post?
Am i joking or being serious? I'd like to think both, but i reckon +0, Ridiculous, but cute; would be the perfect moderation.
☺
OK thats ☺. Its unicode, and, basically any body with a sufficently modern browser, and a reasonable unicode font will see them as smilie faces.
(in IE its one of those install on demand components. In X, well ive got my unicode font installed, if only i could get a browser to use it)
...you may also be on crack though.
☺ (thats a;o) for the rest of you)
On problem, as with any universal rating scheme is that it would be easy to, say, create 20 accounts and consistantly mark-down a certain author, something you cant do on/. because you would have work the accounts up to moderator status first.
On my reading of the summary the system doesnt seem to have a way to deal with this. Indeed it doesnt really seem to be adaptable to deal with this.
On a positive note offensive comments should go down quicker than they do on/., and the system allows for a finer grading of articles, but i cant really see it being better in the end.
Since this is going to lead to an inevitable discusion about/.s moderation scheme my two-pennies worth is that you could combine this scheme with/.s in a 3 tier manner. Any reader can vote a story up or down, however no effect registers until a moderator (generted in the/. manner) comes online. They are then presented with the top x movers, and check to see if the public vote is accetable. They can then ratify or veto the decision. It could even take 2, or 3 agreeing modrators before the story was moved up or down. Metamoderation would then take place in a similiar way to at present.
However i dont really think that the system would be an improvement on the present one, which, given the circumstances, works rather well (though i might only be saying that because i got +4 karma today ☺).
Can you really call this intelligence? Soap bubbles, those darlings of the mathematical community, have long been of interest as they will always form the most efficient network between a set of nodes.
You could call that intelligence, we tend to call it surface tension.
I agree with 99% of that, the only thing i wonder about is:: This medium allows people to quickly comment and point out when people's personas aren't "fitting together" which is important because traditional media can be bought or biased
Isnt this just because the net is still in its 'wild west' days, and the 'image technichians' [spin-doctors] havent had time to fully utilise/explore the medium.
It seems to me inevitiable that the internet, while maintaining a strong 'underground' will presently become almost as easy to manipulate as other media.
other media have always had non-mainstream outlets, whether it be public access television, student radio, or someone on a street corner handing out pamphlets.
The reason we basically ignore these formats is that they have not the advertising revenue to produce that all important style you mentioned.
When the internet's all macromedia flash and video streams, will it be 90% interactive TV? ;o(
I must admit to being a bit of a chat addict, i dont go in for the whole cybersex thing, so perhaps im not typical, but to me the big attraction of the mediium is not the anonymity, but the fact that its a genuinely unique form of communication.
One of the big topics i studied in linguistics was the diferences between verbal and textual communication, and the linguistic complexity/diversity that this caused. As most internet chat is real-time text communication, and this form of communication is still relatively new, and for most of us an entirely post-childhood experience, there is great room for creativity and personalisation in the use of the medium; perticuarly how {if at all} you choose to represent the non-lexical signals usually communicated by intonation, gesticulation et al in speech.
To me it is the ability to shape these linguistic conventons that leads to the ability to shape social conventions, that leads to the feeling of freedom associated with the medium. Perhaps it is this social freedom, along with are sociatally ingrained obsesion with, and lack of social competency in, sexual matters that leads to the supposed eroticism.
......the earlier posters analogy of the masque ball is, in this light, entirely appropriate.
I quite agree about the anonymity thing, but do you really feel that interaction through the adoption of roles, or alternate ego's is really an internet phenomenom?
Surely people have always presented artificial, situation depent, versions of themselves to [for example] employers and friends, especially to different groups of friends.
The only way the internet increases this is by erradicating the need for the different personas to 'fit-together' sufficently for the individual to cope with situations when they are physically coexistent with others aquainted with the different personas.
I dont actually disagree with you on this. My point is that they dont always equate, and that with knowledge its possible to get a genuine 'bargin', without it most people pay as much as they can afford in the hope of getting quality. sometimes they get it.
Is this a joke,?
I realise it's got a strongARM and (ex) acorn boys really know how to design low power CPU's but battery-life? speed?
anybody know if there's ever going to be anouther ARM based desktop series?
anybody running linux on an archemedies?[sic!]
is it a joke?
[confused]
I think what all you geeks are missing is that RH is doing this for the coprate market and that the coprate market likes paying for things
They associate price with quality, something we all tend to do when faced with buying things that we dont have a detailed knowledge of.
Hence I imagine that this will be relatively successful.
(I notice SuSE 7.0 didn't get a/. story........) ............arrh so thats why it's version 7.0 not 6.3, the version number wars ;oþ
Not a stinking thing that anybody posts to a website SHOULD be used as grounds to go after the operator. You are an ISP of sorts. You never offered police or babysitting services (even if your website is cop or baby related). Demon, a very old and respected UK ISP ws sued recently (ish) for not removing a libelous statement from there newserver!. I cant remember the details, but the item wasn't even posted by someone with a demon account. It was settled out of court IIRC, but it looks like UK law doesn't accept the basic ISP arguement.
I remember reading a semi serious article about the feasability of creating minute black holes by doing some quamtum jigarry pokery with magnetic fields.
The article stated that some lab was actually going to have a go at making one until they realised that an inappropriately timed powerloss could result in the black whole tunneling to the center of the earth and slowly 'eating it up'.
Gived the size of the hole the chance of it actually coming sufficently close to anything was small, but still, it worried me.
anybody remember this?
anybody really trust those scientists?
---shadeds of V
IBMs Q4 results made 2000 a growth year for them apparently, also services in general are growing, the PDA market is heating up etc etc.
All thats really happened is that PC have saturated the market, and its finally getting to the point were a 2 year old PC is still quite fast, especially if the bottleneck is a 56k modem.....
Also GSM phones must be nearing saturation, in europe at least, and people are waiting for 3G to upgrade etc etc.
My point is that IT spending is still high, is just that equipment has become commoditised and that the markets for traditional ststems are saturated. New items, PDAs, Ultra Portables with wireless comms, Portable digital TVs etc etc are still to expensive to be widespread, basically...
Slashdot Mirror
the parsers and writing in today's free competition games often surpass those in their commercial ancestors
..From getting the bird in the cage to Spelunker Today, the thing oozed class.
Aye they do, but do they have the sheer playabity of the classic adventure?
If you should not have played it, go to Snacky Pete's for a copy.
This is primea facea an amazing idea, one thing that occurs to me is that, while it initially seems that the karma in the system remains fixed, if lots of positive moderation is being done this way, modererators are going to do more marking down (if only because all the good comments have been moderated up). This could lead to a 'karma depression', with certain accounts (~11) hoarding karma for the long winters of low karma discontent
people browsing on +3 will believe that slashdot is broken, as no comments will ever reach such lofty heights. People will start exchanging money for karma, perhaps even karma whoreing in the literal sense.
Taco might have to start dumping karma on the market, trying to inroduce bouyency, the possibilities are endless.
Letting people pay to mark down comments would have an even stronger effect, as 2 points would be lost from the system, if this happens, what price a +5 post?
Am i joking or being serious? I'd like to think both, but i reckon +0, Ridiculous, but cute; would be the perfect moderation.
☺
OK thats ☺. Its unicode, and, basically any body with a sufficently modern browser, and a reasonable unicode font will see them as smilie faces.
...you may also be on crack though. ;o) for the rest of you)
(in IE its one of those install on demand components. In X, well ive got my unicode font installed, if only i could get a browser to use it)
☺ (thats a
On problem, as with any universal rating scheme is that it would be easy to, say, create 20 accounts and consistantly mark-down a certain author, something you cant do on /. because you would have work the accounts up to moderator status first.
/., and the system allows for a finer grading of articles, but i cant really see it being better in the end.
/.s moderation scheme my two-pennies worth is that you could combine this scheme with /.s in a 3 tier manner. Any reader can vote a story up or down, however no effect registers until a moderator (generted in the /. manner) comes online. They are then presented with the top x movers, and check to see if the public vote is accetable. They can then ratify or veto the decision. It could even take 2, or 3 agreeing modrators before the story was moved up or down. Metamoderation would then take place in a similiar way to at present.
On my reading of the summary the system doesnt seem to have a way to deal with this. Indeed it doesnt really seem to be adaptable to deal with this.
On a positive note offensive comments should go down quicker than they do on
Since this is going to lead to an inevitable discusion about
However i dont really think that the system would be an improvement on the present one, which, given the circumstances, works rather well (though i might only be saying that because i got +4 karma today ☺).
Can you really call this intelligence? Soap bubbles, those darlings of the mathematical community, have long been of interest as they will always form the most efficient network between a set of nodes.
You could call that intelligence, we tend to call it surface tension.
I agree with 99% of that, the only thing i wonder about is::
;o(
This medium allows people to quickly comment and point out when people's personas aren't "fitting together" which is important because traditional media can be bought or biased
Isnt this just because the net is still in its 'wild west' days, and the 'image technichians' [spin-doctors] havent had time to fully utilise/explore the medium.
It seems to me inevitiable that the internet, while maintaining a strong 'underground' will presently become almost as easy to manipulate as other media.
other media have always had non-mainstream outlets, whether it be public access television, student radio, or someone on a street corner handing out pamphlets.
The reason we basically ignore these formats is that they have not the advertising revenue to produce that all important style you mentioned.
When the internet's all macromedia flash and video streams, will it be 90% interactive TV?
a fair point.
;o)
Bizarrely a recent survey found that 40% of young uk female internet users had had sex with someone they had met on the internet.
Maybe its more delayed touching than no touching
Then again maybe its just an inditement [cant spell] of surveys..
I must admit to being a bit of a chat addict, i dont go in for the whole cybersex thing, so perhaps im not typical, but to me the big attraction of the mediium is not the anonymity, but the fact that its a genuinely unique form of communication.
......the earlier posters analogy of the masque ball is, in this light, entirely appropriate.
One of the big topics i studied in linguistics was the diferences between verbal and textual communication, and the linguistic complexity/diversity that this caused. As most internet chat is real-time text communication, and this form of communication is still relatively new, and for most of us an entirely post-childhood experience, there is great room for creativity and personalisation in the use of the medium; perticuarly how {if at all} you choose to represent the non-lexical signals usually communicated by intonation, gesticulation et al in speech.
To me it is the ability to shape these linguistic conventons that leads to the ability to shape social conventions, that leads to the feeling of freedom associated with the medium. Perhaps it is this social freedom, along with are sociatally ingrained obsesion with, and lack of social competency in, sexual matters that leads to the supposed eroticism.
I quite agree about the anonymity thing, but do you really feel that interaction through the adoption of roles, or alternate ego's is really an internet phenomenom?
Surely people have always presented artificial, situation depent, versions of themselves to [for example] employers and friends, especially to different groups of friends.
The only way the internet increases this is by erradicating the need for the different personas to 'fit-together' sufficently for the individual to cope with situations when they are physically coexistent with others aquainted with the different personas.
I dont actually disagree with you on this. My point is that they dont always equate, and that with knowledge its possible to get a genuine 'bargin', without it most people pay as much as they can afford in the hope of getting quality. sometimes they get it.
Is this a joke,? I realise it's got a strongARM and (ex) acorn boys really know how to design low power CPU's but battery-life? speed?
anybody know if there's ever going to be anouther ARM based desktop series?
anybody running linux on an archemedies?[sic!]
is it a joke?
[confused]
I think what all you geeks are missing is that RH is doing this for the coprate market and that the coprate market likes paying for things /. story........)
............arrh so thats why it's version 7.0 not 6.3, the version number wars
;oþ
They associate price with quality, something we all tend to do when faced with buying things that we dont have a detailed knowledge of.
Hence I imagine that this will be relatively successful.
(I notice SuSE 7.0 didn't get a
Not a stinking thing that anybody posts to a website SHOULD be used as grounds to go after the operator. You are an ISP of sorts. You never offered police or babysitting services (even if your website is cop or baby related).
Demon, a very old and respected UK ISP ws sued recently (ish) for not removing a libelous statement from there newserver!. I cant remember the details, but the item wasn't even posted by someone with a demon account. It was settled out of court IIRC, but it looks like UK law doesn't accept the basic ISP arguement.
I remember reading a semi serious article about the feasability of creating minute black holes by doing some quamtum jigarry pokery with magnetic fields. The article stated that some lab was actually going to have a go at making one until they realised that an inappropriately timed powerloss could result in the black whole tunneling to the center of the earth and slowly 'eating it up'. Gived the size of the hole the chance of it actually coming sufficently close to anything was small, but still, it worried me. anybody remember this? anybody really trust those scientists? ---shadeds of V
IBMs Q4 results made 2000 a growth year for them apparently, also services in general are growing, the PDA market is heating up etc etc.
All thats really happened is that PC have saturated the market, and its finally getting to the point were a 2 year old PC is still quite fast, especially if the bottleneck is a 56k modem.....
Also GSM phones must be nearing saturation, in europe at least, and people are waiting for 3G to upgrade etc etc.
My point is that IT spending is still high, is just that equipment has become commoditised and that the markets for traditional ststems are saturated. New items, PDAs, Ultra Portables with wireless comms, Portable digital TVs etc etc are still to expensive to be widespread, basically...
we're in a transitional phase