I had no idea that Napster was still alive? After I couldn't find any decent music on there, I quit using it, so I assume that everybody else did, too. Are people using Napster to get music that's never been published (garage bands)??
Is there a reason that Oracle wasn't in the list of OODBMS? It's only the most used database in the world...
And the reason I'm not using it yet is because it simply hasn't been around long enough. Oracle's implementation from what I understand is still a bit buggy. The RSBMS version has been around for muuch, much longer, and when you're dealing with enterprise-class applications, you sure as hell don't want to use anything that's even close to bleeding-edge.
This brings to mind the definition for success in a free market economy: whoever provides the best quality for the lowest price gets the dough. Are you saying that it's unfair to make MS compete on the basis of product quality? Make no mistake, if the source code for Windows was out there in the wild, users would gravitate towards the fork that worked the best for what they needed. If MS refuses to provide a version that works better than those of competing distributors, whose fault is it when they fall by the wayside?
Microsoft couldn't compete because they spend MILLIONS a year in R&D and development. I would argue that they spend more developing their products than all of the open source communities, combined. If they were to open up windows, sure, there'd be lots of distributions out there. But what's to stop one distro from downloading the EXACT MS code, bundling it up, and selling it for half of what Microsoft sells it for? Come on, guy, think about this for just a minute! Microsoft has to pay to develop code. That's how their business work.
But OK, so Microsoft GPL's their code. By giving it away for free, you've got to know that as soon as they do, they'll be about a thousand knockoffs of their most popular products because the market is there, and if a company has to pay to check out the source code, they can still make a bundle selling it. Microsoft might not go out of business, but they'd be seriously hurt if they don't have anything other than their name to offer.
i don't agree with you however, that you should just treat work as a "service." i think it's very important to try to enjoy what you do, at least to a certain extent. if you're putting in a big chunk of your waking hours into it (and by that i mean anything over 30 hours a week) you should be getting more than just money or you won't be happy in the long run. you don't have to love your job, but treating it as just a service isn't the way to look at it. we're people, not machines, and we need more than just money.
I think you're right. Ideally, you should enjoy what you do. But often, work is just that, work. Not everybody gets the chance to enjoy what they do. I doubt that anyone working in retail 'enjoys' doing what they do. It would be nice to enjoy what you do, but you shouldn't expect it. I think it would be fantastic if everybody loved what they did and got paid a decent wage. Unfortunately, somebody's always gotta do the crappy jobs. So, I think it's something to shoot for, but if you go into the workplace expecting to always enjoy your job, at some point you're gonna be let down. I know it's a cynical viewpoint, but hey, I've been there...
The primary point of this article is that Microsoft is simply saying that they need to maintain a viable business model. Giving away your code for free, or even letting other people copy your code is usually NOT a viable business model. Microsoft does not develop custom projects. They develop general use products for the public. If they were to release the source code for Windows, there'd be absolutely no reason for anybody to buy Windows, period. It could easily be re-copied, and re-packaged. They're NOT in the custom software business, so while companies like RedHat can make a tiny bit of money (and I do mean Tiny) from doing some custom projects, Microsoft is not structured like this. They DO sell the exact same software to millions of people. It makes no sense, whatsoever for Microsoft to open source their products. That's all this article is about.
I'm sorry to have to break it to ya' guy, but you've got a lot to learn about working, especially in the tech industry. First thing, you gotta forget about 'being appriciated'. It doesn't matter. The paycheck does. You may do a GREAT job and never be appreciated. You may do a shitty job and people may appreciate the hell out of you because they don't know better. If you're waiting for appreciation, you're only going to be let down. Respect? That's another one of those things that's worthless. Take a bit of advice: See your work as just that, work. You get paid for doing a service for your company, period. They do NOT care about you, no matter how many foosball tables they bring in, or how many sodas they buy you. They care about the product. Just like in any other relationship, if one person cares about the other, but it's not reciprocal, the person doing the caring is gonna get hurt. So, realize as soon as you can the most companies do NOT care about you as a person. You know you're being appreicated by getting a paycheck. Leave it at that, and go home, and enjoy the rest of your life. I hate to break it to ya', but it's true.
Buying it for the sake of telling manufacturers that we want better. Nah. It doesn't work like that. If all of the Slashdotters took your advice, we'd all be using Palms as they are forever. The only way for a company to know that we don't like their product is NOT to buy it. Look at American cars. Many Americans buy American cars because they're American. As a result, the quality of American cars still sucks.
That's what Business Objects is designed to do. Of course, you can also just use your favorite server-side scripting language and do it yourself. Or, if you're using Oracle, you can just fire up Oracle Reporter or Oracle Forms. There are tons and tons of tools to do this.
Actually, the porn industry is giving away more free content than ever before. There are many more free sites than there were several years ago, and many of the free sites are not offering EXCELLENT content. I guess the adult industry is ahead of the Net business curve again...
It sounds harsh, but I think that that's the only way to work in the softwrae industry. Have no loyality to to anyone or anything other than yourself. I'm not saying not to work, but do your work, take your pay, and go home. Ideally, do it as a contractor. Most companies today (expecially software) don't really care about their employees, so why should you care about them? So treat work as just that: work. It's NOT your life. I always suggest that programmers work as contractors so you DON'T have to spend your entire life coding. Work your 40, and go home. They want you to work more, they pay you. I know it sounds harsh, but I'm convinced that it's the only way to work in this industry and NOT get screwed.
You've got to be kidding. SCHEMATICS?!? I don't know of a single person who can read a schematic, never mind know what to do with it. No, source code is NOT the answer. People buy products like software to make their lives easier. You should NOT have to be a developer to use basic Office products. That's defeating the purpose of buying software. You should buy the product, and it should work, period. So, I assume that you also think that every car sold should come with the schematics and the source code for the computer, so if something goes wrong by the side of the road, you can just plug in your car engine analyzer and go to town? Come on now. Think for just a minute. Please.
What do you mean that the auto industry is doing fine? Chrysler only survived because it had to be bailed out, the Big Three is the Big Two, and the best selling cars in the world are sold by Japan. No, unions (along with other things) helped kill the US auto industry.
Sure. Unionize. Great way to kill the industry. Have you noticed that the big unionized industries are NOT existing in the US any more, more the most part? Autos, steel, textiles. All gone. Why? Unions forced companies to pay exorbitantly high rates for their employees. Unions are useful when working conditions and bad, pay is low, and there aren't other companies to work for. In IT, working conditions are excellent, pay is excellent, and there are thousands of companies to work for. Unions are totally unnecessary in IT in the US.
... And the boss can't do that if you're a 'permanent' employee? Last I checked, in most states in the US, an employer can fire ANYBODY at will. And of course, any employee can quit ANYTIME, also.
That's true, you CAN do that. But realistically, how many people are going to do this? Musicians, like professional programmers (I'm not including college kids where), work hard to create their product. If there's the slimmest chance of earning some compensation for their work, why on earth would they ever relase their work for free?
Other IT jobs like making web sites, setting up networks, and administering networks. Those jobs are so easy. I could probably get any of those three jobs right now, and I'm a first year CS major. People who want to be one of those only have to get a degree in IT so someone will hire them. I knew everything there is to know about networking years ago.
I couldn't help laughing after reading this. Kid, no offense, but you have a LOT to learn. And I'm not talking about technical stuff, either.
But we're not talking about medicine. We're talking about IT, which usually involves writing code for projects that are obscure and may or may not ever be used. IT involves documentation, presentations, and all kids of random shit that NOBODY likes. It's entirely possible to be a good IT dude and not like what you do. Hell, I'm driven by the money. I'm always learning new stuff not because I think it's interesting, but because I know that if I do, I get to earn more money to do really cool stuff (that has nothign to do with computers).
But think of the bad press that bad banchmarks can generate. Press is press, regardless of the source of it many times. Oracle is just trying to protect themselves from rumors starting. Think about it. That's why they started the $1 million guarantee. You have to agree to use their services to do what they say, in order to win the $1 million (plus a refund of their services). They know that their DB is the fastest, with appropriate implementation. Besides, with a market as old as RDBMS, (unlike the OS market, with a new release every 6 months), it's fairly common knowledge that Oracle is gonna do it for ya' hands down. Anybody who's in a position to spend millions to implement Oracle knows that. Benchmarks can only hurt Oracle. If you don't already know that Oracle is THE enterprise class solution for RDBMS, then you also aren't likely to be a potential customer.
Actually, nope, I don't think that they do get paid all that well. The big stars do, but not as well as 'traditional' Hollywood stars, and most people aren't big stars. Plus, think about it: How much would YOU have to get paid to go to work every day and fuck beautiful women? I don't know about you, but I'd work for damn near free.
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...but I'm not a big fan of filtering software.
I had no idea that Napster was still alive? After I couldn't find any decent music on there, I quit using it, so I assume that everybody else did, too. Are people using Napster to get music that's never been published (garage bands)??
Actually, it is. Check the Oracle Docs.
Is there a reason that Oracle wasn't in the list of OODBMS? It's only the most used database in the world...
And the reason I'm not using it yet is because it simply hasn't been around long enough. Oracle's implementation from what I understand is still a bit buggy. The RSBMS version has been around for muuch, much longer, and when you're dealing with enterprise-class applications, you sure as hell don't want to use anything that's even close to bleeding-edge.
This brings to mind the definition for success in a free market economy: whoever provides the best quality for the lowest price gets the dough. Are you saying that it's unfair to make MS compete on the basis of product quality? Make no mistake, if the source code for Windows was out there in the wild, users would gravitate towards the fork that worked the best for what they needed. If MS refuses to provide a version that works better than those of competing distributors, whose fault is it when they fall by the wayside?
Microsoft couldn't compete because they spend MILLIONS a year in R&D and development. I would argue that they spend more developing their products than all of the open source communities, combined. If they were to open up windows, sure, there'd be lots of distributions out there. But what's to stop one distro from downloading the EXACT MS code, bundling it up, and selling it for half of what Microsoft sells it for? Come on, guy, think about this for just a minute! Microsoft has to pay to develop code. That's how their business work.
But OK, so Microsoft GPL's their code. By giving it away for free, you've got to know that as soon as they do, they'll be about a thousand knockoffs of their most popular products because the market is there, and if a company has to pay to check out the source code, they can still make a bundle selling it. Microsoft might not go out of business, but they'd be seriously hurt if they don't have anything other than their name to offer.
i don't agree with you however, that you should just treat work as a "service." i think it's very important to try to enjoy what you do, at least to a certain extent. if you're putting in a big chunk of your waking hours into it (and by that i mean anything over 30 hours a week) you should be getting more than just money or you won't be happy in the long run. you don't have to love your job, but treating it as just a service isn't the way to look at it. we're people, not machines, and we need more than just money.
I think you're right. Ideally, you should enjoy what you do. But often, work is just that, work. Not everybody gets the chance to enjoy what they do. I doubt that anyone working in retail 'enjoys' doing what they do. It would be nice to enjoy what you do, but you shouldn't expect it. I think it would be fantastic if everybody loved what they did and got paid a decent wage. Unfortunately, somebody's always gotta do the crappy jobs. So, I think it's something to shoot for, but if you go into the workplace expecting to always enjoy your job, at some point you're gonna be let down. I know it's a cynical viewpoint, but hey, I've been there...
The primary point of this article is that Microsoft is simply saying that they need to maintain a viable business model. Giving away your code for free, or even letting other people copy your code is usually NOT a viable business model. Microsoft does not develop custom projects. They develop general use products for the public. If they were to release the source code for Windows, there'd be absolutely no reason for anybody to buy Windows, period. It could easily be re-copied, and re-packaged. They're NOT in the custom software business, so while companies like RedHat can make a tiny bit of money (and I do mean Tiny) from doing some custom projects, Microsoft is not structured like this. They DO sell the exact same software to millions of people. It makes no sense, whatsoever for Microsoft to open source their products. That's all this article is about.
I'm sorry to have to break it to ya' guy, but you've got a lot to learn about working, especially in the tech industry. First thing, you gotta forget about 'being appriciated'. It doesn't matter. The paycheck does. You may do a GREAT job and never be appreciated. You may do a shitty job and people may appreciate the hell out of you because they don't know better. If you're waiting for appreciation, you're only going to be let down. Respect? That's another one of those things that's worthless. Take a bit of advice: See your work as just that, work. You get paid for doing a service for your company, period. They do NOT care about you, no matter how many foosball tables they bring in, or how many sodas they buy you. They care about the product. Just like in any other relationship, if one person cares about the other, but it's not reciprocal, the person doing the caring is gonna get hurt. So, realize as soon as you can the most companies do NOT care about you as a person. You know you're being appreicated by getting a paycheck. Leave it at that, and go home, and enjoy the rest of your life. I hate to break it to ya', but it's true.
Buying it for the sake of telling manufacturers that we want better. Nah. It doesn't work like that. If all of the Slashdotters took your advice, we'd all be using Palms as they are forever. The only way for a company to know that we don't like their product is NOT to buy it. Look at American cars. Many Americans buy American cars because they're American. As a result, the quality of American cars still sucks.
That's what Business Objects is designed to do. Of course, you can also just use your favorite server-side scripting language and do it yourself. Or, if you're using Oracle, you can just fire up Oracle Reporter or Oracle Forms. There are tons and tons of tools to do this.
Hey man, it's my business. It's what I do. That'd be like asking the typical Slashdotter to stop talking about computers!
Actually, the porn industry is giving away more free content than ever before. There are many more free sites than there were several years ago, and many of the free sites are not offering EXCELLENT content. I guess the adult industry is ahead of the Net business curve again...
It sounds harsh, but I think that that's the only way to work in the softwrae industry. Have no loyality to to anyone or anything other than yourself. I'm not saying not to work, but do your work, take your pay, and go home. Ideally, do it as a contractor. Most companies today (expecially software) don't really care about their employees, so why should you care about them? So treat work as just that: work. It's NOT your life. I always suggest that programmers work as contractors so you DON'T have to spend your entire life coding. Work your 40, and go home. They want you to work more, they pay you. I know it sounds harsh, but I'm convinced that it's the only way to work in this industry and NOT get screwed.
You've got to be kidding. SCHEMATICS?!? I don't know of a single person who can read a schematic, never mind know what to do with it. No, source code is NOT the answer. People buy products like software to make their lives easier. You should NOT have to be a developer to use basic Office products. That's defeating the purpose of buying software. You should buy the product, and it should work, period. So, I assume that you also think that every car sold should come with the schematics and the source code for the computer, so if something goes wrong by the side of the road, you can just plug in your car engine analyzer and go to town? Come on now. Think for just a minute. Please.
Actually, I don't think so. Government tax breaks and loans helped them out. That, and their better engineering and their better quality control.
What do you mean that the auto industry is doing fine? Chrysler only survived because it had to be bailed out, the Big Three is the Big Two, and the best selling cars in the world are sold by Japan. No, unions (along with other things) helped kill the US auto industry.
Sure. Unionize. Great way to kill the industry. Have you noticed that the big unionized industries are NOT existing in the US any more, more the most part? Autos, steel, textiles. All gone. Why? Unions forced companies to pay exorbitantly high rates for their employees. Unions are useful when working conditions and bad, pay is low, and there aren't other companies to work for. In IT, working conditions are excellent, pay is excellent, and there are thousands of companies to work for. Unions are totally unnecessary in IT in the US.
... And the boss can't do that if you're a 'permanent' employee? Last I checked, in most states in the US, an employer can fire ANYBODY at will. And of course, any employee can quit ANYTIME, also.
That's true, you CAN do that. But realistically, how many people are going to do this? Musicians, like professional programmers (I'm not including college kids where), work hard to create their product. If there's the slimmest chance of earning some compensation for their work, why on earth would they ever relase their work for free?
Other IT jobs like making web sites, setting up networks, and administering networks. Those jobs are so easy. I could probably get any of those three jobs right now, and I'm a first year CS major. People who want to be one of those only have to get a degree in IT so someone will hire them. I knew everything there is to know about networking years ago.
I couldn't help laughing after reading this. Kid, no offense, but you have a LOT to learn. And I'm not talking about technical stuff, either.
But we're not talking about medicine. We're talking about IT, which usually involves writing code for projects that are obscure and may or may not ever be used. IT involves documentation, presentations, and all kids of random shit that NOBODY likes. It's entirely possible to be a good IT dude and not like what you do. Hell, I'm driven by the money. I'm always learning new stuff not because I think it's interesting, but because I know that if I do, I get to earn more money to do really cool stuff (that has nothign to do with computers).
Amen, brother. While it would be nice if I happened to like computers, I don't think that I would've been nearly as successful.
But think of the bad press that bad banchmarks can generate. Press is press, regardless of the source of it many times. Oracle is just trying to protect themselves from rumors starting. Think about it. That's why they started the $1 million guarantee. You have to agree to use their services to do what they say, in order to win the $1 million (plus a refund of their services). They know that their DB is the fastest, with appropriate implementation. Besides, with a market as old as RDBMS, (unlike the OS market, with a new release every 6 months), it's fairly common knowledge that Oracle is gonna do it for ya' hands down. Anybody who's in a position to spend millions to implement Oracle knows that. Benchmarks can only hurt Oracle. If you don't already know that Oracle is THE enterprise class solution for RDBMS, then you also aren't likely to be a potential customer.
Actually, nope, I don't think that they do get paid all that well. The big stars do, but not as well as 'traditional' Hollywood stars, and most people aren't big stars. Plus, think about it: How much would YOU have to get paid to go to work every day and fuck beautiful women? I don't know about you, but I'd work for damn near free.