They are revelent to the parent post which I will post after this message because it appears that you are having a difficult time clicking the parent link in my post.
I was using the quotes to show that env's just want to bitch (I had other things but I have to get back to work).
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This is really more of a touchy feel-good move than a substantive move in cutting back on the more dangerous parts of the motherboard.
This doesn't do a thing about the lethal levels of sheel negceba that go through most boards, not to mention the chemicals used in most non-paper capacitors, which are not only lethal poisons, but as tasty as anti-freeze to most animals.
Add to this the PCBs in the transformer that go with their power supply, and you've pretty much only addressed the fourth worst problem. The real problems have several orders of magnitude more impact on the environtment and worse -- solutions already exist to solve all three for prices only 5-10% higher than what they pay for existing chemicals!
"Without checking, without reasoning, without thinking."
I wasn't aware that I had to do that again seing as I said that I had already done so. I am not so stupid as to have to rethink everything everytime I see it.
You just don't like people who disagre with you seeing as how my post is revelvent to the general topic being discussed and greatly revelvent to the post that I was responding to. Your posts, however, add absolutly nothing to the topic at hand.
But if it makes you feel better, go post in the apple portion of/. the url's to my comments and the apple mods that hate me will take care of it.
Here is the source of what I posted with supporting links. I have researched quotes like these before, but is is the THIRD response http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF -8&q=extreme+quotes+environmentalists&spel l=1
Both sides cause cancer. Large companies by they methonds they use and Env's who fight against better tech because it isn't perfect. Then Env's would rather wait for perfectly clean tech than replace poluting tech with less poluting tech, even if the less poluting tech saves lives.
It may not be 100% relevant to this story, but it is revelent to some of the theams behind this story and also is revelent to the post that I responded to.
I did not post this as a main thread of the story, I responded to a subthread. And you calling for me to be modded off the face of the planet, if followed thru by the modes, would be a total violation of what mods are susposed to do.
Just so you will know, I think people that damange the environment on such a drastic scale and do it knowlingly should be sent to the Alaskan wilderness to spend the rest of their live make big rocks turn into small ones.
They also release a lot of heavy metals, so much so that warning about fish from lakes around most of the coal plants in East Texas have been issued due to their high levels of heavy metals.
"[T]he campaign of fear now being waged against genetic modification is based largely on fantasy and a complete lack of respect for science and logic." Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore.
"Solar power and windmills are not a realistic way out. Nuclear energy is the only real and practical solution, but there has been such a hysterical reaction to it." James Lovelock, developer of the Gaia Hypothesis.
"Extreme weather events are definitely on the decline over the last 40 years." Dr. Madhav Khandekar, a meteorologist with 25 years experience at Environment Canada.
"They have cheated the case and I am angry about that, because that will come to our account. They use bad data, as well as for the Brent Spar as for the French nuclear tests. I am against nuclear tests, but one should use scientific, sound arguments... Greenpeace has harmed the environmental case." Paul Crutzen, Nobel Prize winner for his work on the ozone layer, who cancelled his Greenpeace membership.
"In truth, what the environmental community has become is a money machine" Alfred Runte, environmental historian, board member of the National Parks Conservation Association from 1993 to 1997 and author of Yosemite, The Embattled Wilderness.
"In 2000, say World Health Organization and other studies, malaria infected over 300 million people. It killed nearly 2,000,000 - most of them in sub-Saharan Africa. [...] "[these deaths] are due in large part to near-global restrictions on the production, export and use of DDT. [...] "Where DDT is used, malaria deaths plummet. " Paul Driessen, author of Eco-Imperialism - Green Power. Black Death. - "A former member of the Sierra Club and Zero Population Growth, he abandoned their cause when he recognized that the environmental movement had become intolerant in its views, inflexible in its demands, unwilling to recognize our tremendous strides in protecting the environment, and insensitive to the needs of billions of people who lack the food, electricity, safe water, healthcare and other basic necessities that we take for granted."
"Greenpeace is lobbying against industry plans to exclude products such as DDT from a POPs [persistent organic pollutants] phase-out." Greenpeace annual report, 1999)
Just like how coal plants release more radition and heavy metals into the environment that nuclear plants. But which ones to the 'enviros' target the most, the nuke plants because it gets them more press.
Reading through Gates' Q&A with America's youth, we feel pretty good about our bet. A 14-year-old female asked him about probable career opportunities.
His answer: "There will be a wealth of opportunities relating to software."
Yes, you are. You called for the parent to be moded down so it would not be seen.
An intellegent response to the parent would have made a lot more sense and would not have made you look like someone who can not stand people that disagree with them.
Welcome to the new/. where group think is required.
If you deviate any from the accepted way of thinking your post will be mod bombed because those doing the moding are cowards who would rather hide ideas they do not agree with rather than debate the issues.
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They are revelent to the parent post which I will post after this message because it appears that you are having a difficult time clicking the parent link in my post.
I was using the quotes to show that env's just want to bitch (I had other things but I have to get back to work).
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This is really more of a touchy feel-good move than a substantive move in cutting back on the more dangerous parts of the motherboard.
This doesn't do a thing about the lethal levels of sheel negceba that go through most boards, not to mention the chemicals used in most non-paper capacitors, which are not only lethal poisons, but as tasty as anti-freeze to most animals.
Add to this the PCBs in the transformer that go with their power supply, and you've pretty much only addressed the fourth worst problem. The real problems have several orders of magnitude more impact on the environtment and worse -- solutions already exist to solve all three for prices only 5-10% higher than what they pay for existing chemicals!
First let me say that I know this is a troll, yet I can't help myself. :->
Netstumbler isn't opensource for some strange reason.
"Without checking, without reasoning, without thinking."
/. the url's to my comments and the apple mods that hate me will take care of it.
I wasn't aware that I had to do that again seing as I said that I had already done so. I am not so stupid as to have to rethink everything everytime I see it.
You just don't like people who disagre with you seeing as how my post is revelvent to the general topic being discussed and greatly revelvent to the post that I was responding to. Your posts, however, add absolutly nothing to the topic at hand.
But if it makes you feel better, go post in the apple portion of
When they moved the 802.11 standards body to Texas. :->
http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/ 2003/12/eminent_environ.html
F -8&q=extreme+quotes+environmentalists&spel l=1
Here is the source of what I posted with supporting links. I have researched quotes like these before, but is is the THIRD response http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UT
Now fucking appoligize.
Both sides cause cancer. Large companies by they methonds they use and Env's who fight against better tech because it isn't perfect. Then Env's would rather wait for perfectly clean tech than replace poluting tech with less poluting tech, even if the less poluting tech saves lives.
It is the result of one link from a google search.
o n/ 2003/12/eminent_environ.html
http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_abluti
Just be happy I didn't post the quotes from the crazies that think they human race should be killed off to save the planet.
But all you listed is still better than injecting large amounts of heavy metals into the air and food supply.
It took about 47 seconds on google.
It may not be 100% relevant to this story, but it is revelent to some of the theams behind this story and also is revelent to the post that I responded to.
I did not post this as a main thread of the story, I responded to a subthread. And you calling for me to be modded off the face of the planet, if followed thru by the modes, would be a total violation of what mods are susposed to do.
They coal plants burn coal.
The coal contains heavy metals and radioactive materials.
They enter the air.
Nothing has to go wrong, it is just the way it works. Or are you telling me the heavy metal in fish warnings are just made up?
Just so you will know, I think people that damange the environment on such a drastic scale and do it knowlingly should be sent to the Alaskan wilderness to spend the rest of their live make big rocks turn into small ones.
It relates to the post I was responding to. More so than your response does.
Per KwH.
They also release a lot of heavy metals, so much so that warning about fish from lakes around most of the coal plants in East Texas have been issued due to their high levels of heavy metals.
"[T]he campaign of fear now being waged against genetic modification is based largely on fantasy
... Greenpeace has harmed the environmental case."
and a complete lack of respect for science and logic."
Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore.
"Solar power and windmills are not a realistic way out. Nuclear energy is the only real and practical solution, but there has been such a hysterical reaction to it."
James Lovelock, developer of the Gaia Hypothesis.
"Extreme weather events are definitely on the decline over the last 40 years."
Dr. Madhav Khandekar, a meteorologist with 25 years experience at Environment Canada.
"They have cheated the case and I am angry about that, because that will come to our account. They use bad data, as well as for the Brent Spar as for the French nuclear tests. I am against nuclear tests, but one should use scientific, sound arguments
Paul Crutzen, Nobel Prize winner for his work on the ozone layer, who cancelled his Greenpeace membership.
"In truth, what the environmental community has become is a money machine"
Alfred Runte, environmental historian, board member of the National Parks Conservation Association from 1993 to 1997 and author of Yosemite, The Embattled Wilderness.
"In 2000, say World Health Organization and other studies, malaria infected over 300 million people. It killed nearly 2,000,000 - most of them in sub-Saharan Africa.
[...]
"[these deaths] are due in large part to near-global restrictions on the production, export and use of DDT.
[...]
"Where DDT is used, malaria deaths plummet. "
Paul Driessen, author of Eco-Imperialism - Green Power. Black Death. - "A former member of the Sierra Club and Zero Population Growth, he abandoned their cause when he recognized that the environmental movement had become intolerant in its views, inflexible in its demands, unwilling to recognize our tremendous strides in protecting the environment, and insensitive to the needs of billions of people who lack the food, electricity, safe water, healthcare and other basic necessities that we take for granted."
"Greenpeace is lobbying against industry plans to exclude products such as DDT from a POPs [persistent organic pollutants] phase-out."
Greenpeace annual report, 1999)
Just like how coal plants release more radition and heavy metals into the environment that nuclear plants. But which ones to the 'enviros' target the most, the nuke plants because it gets them more press.
Well, they make some red and blue ones that they sell to the people that put windows on the side of their towers.
I wish I was joking.
Reading through Gates' Q&A with America's youth, we feel pretty good about our bet. A 14-year-old female asked him about probable career opportunities.
His answer: "There will be a wealth of opportunities relating to software."
Oops...
It is a question of resource usage. While they are going after these group of law breakers, they are not going after others who cause far more harm.
It's kind of like the DoJ restarting porn prosecutions during the middle of the War on Terror (tm)(c)(r)...
"He's contributed as much to the Star Trek universe as Gene Roddenberry"
True, but a very large portion of that contribution is 100% the opposite of Roddenberry's contribution...
Because crimes against people are going unpunished while the do this. It's a question of resource allocation.
Google for Little Computer People. A sims like game for the c64. From the 1980's.
You agree with the other post, the post that called for the parent to be mod bombed.
THAT puts you into the same catagory.
Yes, you are. You called for the parent to be moded down so it would not be seen.
An intellegent response to the parent would have made a lot more sense and would not have made you look like someone who can not stand people that disagree with them.
Welcome to the new /. where group think is required.
If you deviate any from the accepted way of thinking your post will be mod bombed because those doing the moding are cowards who would rather hide ideas they do not agree with rather than debate the issues.
IOW, cowards.
You do know that they sell connections with greater speeds, don't you?