I thought about this back in the mid 90s during my true college years. I came to the following conclusions about the idea:
* It would have to happen on a global scale (no country could be left out).
* People would be REQUIRED to work or do something during a certain age range (Which really isn't any different than the case now).
* The children growing up in said society would be less wasteful and more accepting of such an idea.
* At first people would be wasteful as they try to acquire "everything they ever wanted". But then later they would all get the feeling of not needing most of it and being more responsible.
* The majority of the current population would be very opposed to this idea because most would think it is communism. Which is unfortunate because communism had a lot of good ideas to it. Most of all, to help people over all have better lives.
* The majority of the current population need to change their attitude regarding their own responsibilities to society. This and the first point are the major reasons communism failed.
* Something would have to be done about the idea of trading of favors, because this would eventually lead to simply a different kind of "bartering and currency". This has a lot to do with people's attitudes.
* The root of most problems in this world is money and the fact that we value objects. Money has eroded good will and good people from turning the earth into a good place. Almost any problem you can think of in this world can be traced back to people's greed and desire to compensate for their lifestyles.
* We'd have to slow the population explosion so that we don't extinguish our resources. We would have to work on mining resources from other unpopulated planets.
* It would take a long time to make such a change, such as 100 years or so. People would initially have to make some sacrifices that wouldn't be immediately rewarded by the goals of a moneyless society. So you might have problems with people wanting to go with such a system since they wouldn't see the results in their lifetime.
Most of these are qualifications for such a system to work, but the benifits are numerous and unimaginable:
* Possibly an end to war.
* End to hunger
* Formation of a world government.
* MUCH MUCH less waste of raw natural materials and time. People may shared used items instead of buying new ones more often because there would be no worry of something breaking, etc.
* A focus on the things that are important. (Money itself is not important, but yet in our current society we place such high value and time on it)
* Ability to do good things that previously would have drained valueable resouces for an intangeable gain.
* No worry about job loss, homelessness, bankruptcy, and any other problem tied with lack of money or inability to produce finances.
* Higher quality of life and products because there would be no reason to not make things the best you could make them.
Where we out of Bosnia by Christmas, Like Clinton said?
What about the illegals (80% democratic) that vote in Southern Cal in the elections?
Please look at the "Tax" bills that clinton signed when the Dems where in control an you will find targeted exemptions for industries that donated to Clinton. Both sides do that BS.
I haven't defended bush, nor have I defended kerry , save for the times when they are being attacked untruthfully. But the/. editors said that this would be a balanced section and it is anything but.
If something is wrong when the side you do not support does it, it is just as wrong when your side does it. Both the Dems and the GOPers are corrupt, it is just that the Dems do a better job of making the GOPers look worse.
Check out the funding for the Dems convention if you do not believe me. There was a nice PBS doc on it a few weeks ago.
Then stop supporting/. whos parent company supports outsourcing to China with no regard to the labor status of those working in the oursourced factories. If you support/. you are indirectly supporting slave labor.
This is the same PAN that can take up 1 GIG of RAM when retreiving 200,000+ headers in comp.os.linux or related text groups on a high retention server.
The DB did not ID who was Hispanic. Since this info wasn't included in the DB anyone who says it was is lying. Or are you telling me that carter just made a 'mistake'?
Four years ago, the top election official, Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, was also the co-chair of the Bush-Cheney state campaign committee. The same strong bias has become evident in her successor, Glenda Hood, who was a highly partisan elector for George W. Bush in 2000. Several thousand ballots of African Americans were thrown out on technicalities in 2000, and a fumbling attempt has been made recently to disqualify 22,000 African Americans (likely Democrats), but only 61 Hispanics (likely Republicans), as alleged felons.
Perhaps YOU should read the fucking article before you tell others they haven't.
How is this? See my other posts in this discussion for the URL.
But the database of felons supplied by FDLE does not list Hispanic as an ethnic group ''believe it or not,'' said Nicole DeLara, spokeswoman for the secretary of state. ``We have not been able to determine why this wasn't caught. The potential felon database is now retroactively void.''
The method of determining how convicted felons would be identified was laid out in a 2002 settlement agreement between the state and several civil rights groups. The method uses race as one of several factors to determine whether a felon has registered to vote. The others are first name, last name and date of birth. If one of those fails to match up, the name is not added to the list for potential purging. But the database of felons supplied by FDLE does not list Hispanic as an ethnic group ''believe it or not,'' said Nicole DeLara, spokeswoman for the secretary of state. ``We have not been able to determine why this wasn't caught. The potential felon database is now retroactively void.''
The method of determining how convicted felons would be identified was laid out in a 2002 settlement agreement between the state and several civil rights groups. The method uses race as one of several factors to determine whether a felon has registered to vote. The others are first name, last name and date of birth. If one of those fails to match up, the name is not added to the list for potential purging.
But the database of felons supplied by FDLE does not list Hispanic as an ethnic group ''believe it or not,'' said Nicole DeLara, spokeswoman for the secretary of state. ``We have not been able to determine why this wasn't caught. The potential felon database is now retroactively void.''
ABC News (radio) announced that over 46,000 New York City residents were registered to vote in both their home district and also in the state of Florida. The anouncement mentioned that two-thirds (2/3) are registered Democrats.
009090-89890- NEW YORK, (UPI) -- Allegations first made by the New York Daily News that residents of New York state may have voted illegally in Florida elections has produced calls for a formal investigation by Florida officials.
A study of computer records in New York and Florida conducted by the Daily News found 46,000 New York residents illegally registered to vote in both states.
The paper's investigation also uncovered the fact that as few as 400 and as many as 1,000 of those illegally registered voted twice in at least one election.
In some cases, people were found to have violated the law by voting twice in as many as seven elections.
"We expect that people will follow the law," said Florida Department of State spokeswoman Alia Faraj. "If there is an indication that people haven't, then the appropriate agencies must look into this matter." -30-
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You may want to check, but I think that your wife has Boobies and if she isn't Hot, well that's your fault. ;->
No, they are too busying trying to get drinking made illegal. Guess they need to read the Bible. ;->
And you are a wacko who thinks the State should force people to work for free.
http://suso.suso.org/thought.php?thought_id=110
I thought about this back in the mid 90s during my true college years. I came to the following conclusions about the idea:
* It would have to happen on a global scale (no country could be left out).
* People would be REQUIRED to work or do something during a certain age range (Which really isn't any different than the case now).
* The children growing up in said society would be less wasteful and more accepting of such an idea.
* At first people would be wasteful as they try to acquire "everything they ever wanted". But then later they would all get the feeling of not needing most of it and being more responsible.
* The majority of the current population would be very opposed to this idea because most would think it is communism. Which is unfortunate because communism had a lot of good ideas to it. Most of all, to help people over all have better lives.
* The majority of the current population need to change their attitude regarding their own responsibilities to society. This and the first point are the major reasons communism failed.
* Something would have to be done about the idea of trading of favors, because this would eventually lead to simply a different kind of "bartering and currency". This has a lot to do with people's attitudes.
* The root of most problems in this world is money and the fact that we value objects. Money has eroded good will and good people from turning the earth into a good place. Almost any problem you can think of in this world can be traced back to people's greed and desire to compensate for their lifestyles.
* We'd have to slow the population explosion so that we don't extinguish our resources. We would have to work on mining resources from other unpopulated planets.
* It would take a long time to make such a change, such as 100 years or so. People would initially have to make some sacrifices that wouldn't be immediately rewarded by the goals of a moneyless society. So you might have problems with people wanting to go with such a system since they wouldn't see the results in their lifetime.
Most of these are qualifications for such a system to work, but the benifits are numerous and unimaginable:
* Possibly an end to war.
* End to hunger
* Formation of a world government.
* MUCH MUCH less waste of raw natural materials and time. People may shared used items instead of buying new ones more often because there would be no worry of something breaking, etc.
* A focus on the things that are important. (Money itself is not important, but yet in our current society we place such high value and time on it)
* Ability to do good things that previously would have drained valueable resouces for an intangeable gain.
* No worry about job loss, homelessness, bankruptcy, and any other problem tied with lack of money or inability to produce finances.
* Higher quality of life and products because there would be no reason to not make things the best you could make them.
Why do you assume that just because someone is religious they do not believe in evolution?
The Hardcover book is $23.77 on amazon.com.
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IOW, when it helps the side you support it is OK, but if it hurts your side it's wrong.
That is incorrect, it is wrong whenever it happens. J
Where we out of Bosnia by Christmas, Like Clinton said?
/. editors said that this would be a balanced section and it is anything but.
What about the illegals (80% democratic) that vote in Southern Cal in the elections?
Please look at the "Tax" bills that clinton signed when the Dems where in control an you will find targeted exemptions for industries that donated to Clinton. Both sides do that BS.
I haven't defended bush, nor have I defended kerry , save for the times when they are being attacked untruthfully. But the
If something is wrong when the side you do not support does it, it is just as wrong when your side does it. Both the Dems and the GOPers are corrupt, it is just that the Dems do a better job of making the GOPers look worse.
Check out the funding for the Dems convention if you do not believe me. There was a nice PBS doc on it a few weeks ago.
Where do you think that most of the product that think geek sales are made?
They also are big supporters of offshoring to India.
I used to have the PDF's they sent me, if I find them I will let you know.
Then stop supporting /. whos parent company supports outsourcing to China with no regard to the labor status of those working in the oursourced factories. If you support /. you are indirectly supporting slave labor.
It should have the ability to give you back what you bought in the event of a computer crash.
Think about what you are saying.
When the Dems point the finger, it's OK! (I don't see the media covering the Dems 'issues' nearly as much as they cover the GOPers)
When the GOPer point the finger, it's WRONG.
NO, its wrong NO MATTER WHAT SIDE DOES IT.
This is the same PAN that can take up 1 GIG of RAM when retreiving 200,000+ headers in comp.os.linux or related text groups on a high retention server.
It also hasn't been updated sine 2004-01-24.
How about stationing machine gun toting troops at polling places like they did in Venezuela ?
How about the curious number of ballot boxes that had the same number of anti-Chavez votes ?
The DB did not ID who was Hispanic. Since this info wasn't included in the DB anyone who says it was is lying. Or are you telling me that carter just made a 'mistake'?
This is from the LA.
Four years ago, the top election official, Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, was also the co-chair of the Bush-Cheney state campaign committee. The same strong bias has become evident in her successor, Glenda Hood, who was a highly partisan elector for George W. Bush in 2000. Several thousand ballots of African Americans were thrown out on technicalities in 2000, and a fumbling attempt has been made recently to disqualify 22,000 African Americans (likely Democrats), but only 61 Hispanics (likely Republicans), as alleged felons.
Perhaps YOU should read the fucking article before you tell others they haven't.
How is this? See my other posts in this discussion for the URL.
But the database of felons supplied by FDLE does not list Hispanic as an ethnic group ''believe it or not,'' said Nicole DeLara, spokeswoman for the secretary of state. ``We have not been able to determine why this wasn't caught. The potential felon database is now retroactively void.''
Then explain why so many pro dem/ pro kerry stories are posted.
Hint, it isn't because they are not being submitted.
https://registration.miami.com/reg/login.do?url=ht tp%3A%2F%2Fwww.miami.com%2Fmld%2Fmiamiherald%2F912 6001.htm [miami.com]
The method of determining how convicted felons would be identified was laid out in a 2002 settlement agreement between the state and several civil rights groups. The method uses race as one of several factors to determine whether a felon has registered to vote. The others are first name, last name and date of birth. If one of those fails to match up, the name is not added to the list for potential purging.
But the database of felons supplied by FDLE does not list Hispanic as an ethnic group ''believe it or not,'' said Nicole DeLara, spokeswoman for the secretary of state. ``We have not been able to determine why this wasn't caught. The potential felon database is now retroactively void.''
https://registration.miami.com/reg/login.do?url=ht tp%3A%2F%2Fwww.miami.com%2Fmld%2Fmiamiherald%2F912 6001.htm
The method of determining how convicted felons would be identified was laid out in a 2002 settlement agreement between the state and several civil rights groups. The method uses race as one of several factors to determine whether a felon has registered to vote. The others are first name, last name and date of birth. If one of those fails to match up, the name is not added to the list for potential purging.
But the database of felons supplied by FDLE does not list Hispanic as an ethnic group ''believe it or not,'' said Nicole DeLara, spokeswoman for the secretary of state. ``We have not been able to determine why this wasn't caught. The potential felon database is now retroactively void.''
Posted on 08/25/2004 6:20:16 AM PDT by moonman
ABC News (radio) announced that over 46,000 New York City residents were registered to vote in both their home district and also in the state of Florida. The anouncement mentioned that two-thirds (2/3) are registered Democrats.
009090-89890-
NEW YORK, (UPI) -- Allegations first made by the New York Daily News that residents of New York state may have voted illegally in Florida elections has produced calls for a formal investigation by Florida officials.
A study of computer records in New York and Florida conducted by the Daily News found 46,000 New York residents illegally registered to vote in both states.
The paper's investigation also uncovered the fact that as few as 400 and as many as 1,000 of those illegally registered voted twice in at least one election.
In some cases, people were found to have violated the law by voting twice in as many as seven elections.
"We expect that people will follow the law," said Florida Department of State spokeswoman Alia Faraj. "If there is an indication that people haven't, then the appropriate agencies must look into this matter." -30-
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What they do not say is that there isn't a place on those froms to mark hispanic. Most Hispanics would have been marked down as white...
But they don't tell you that. Hell, this is the same guy that said the elections in Ven. where 100% on the up and up.
Me thinks you would be more upset if said teacher required students to buy and own a gun.
The research what the Dems did during Clinton and what they are doing now.
It is both sides and the fact that you do not know this scares me. Research the issues for yourself and look who votes for what.
You will be shocked.
You might want to follow the link. That kind of helps.
The fucking DEMS did the same exact thing! Why does everyone blame the R's when the D's do it too?
Damn it, both parties want to fuck you over.