straw bale homes are still expensive because the straw bale is just infill for a post and beam house and big honking pieces of wood are really expensive and the labour more so.
Have you not heard of the housing market in the states? There are complete houses with land selling for $5000. But the you would just complain about the la.d or the neighbourhood right? Here in mexico if you squat somewhere for 5 years it's yours.
These are developing world housing structures, what makes you think they have developed world metropolitan land prices?
Perhaps you need to read the links better. The price of actual construction and the province in china are all there.
Perhaps you've never been to developing countries? This is a palace compared to some of the shacks here in mexico, even in the mountains where there's snow and water freezes. A large part of the country has no indoor heating maki.g nights here in the mountains colder than winters in canada.
Wow, you can look things up on wiki. How does this make any sense in the context of what he said? I speak french fluently which is why I asked if there was a slang meaning because US'ians frequently use french words to mean different things, usually with horrible spelling and pronounciation.
Well, you know how great slashdots editing feature is. Truth be told i do use mine to test out snippets of scheme. What language are you using it for? I havem't really checked around but i wouldn't mind getting some c/c++/java development on it for when I'm bored at least enough to work out some codechef etc... problems.
what i would relove are lisp bindings for android on my tablet.I haven't been able to get anything done since my laptop died.
What does resolution have to do with development? If you can't fit a complete block of code even on 1280x720 you're doing something wrong. As well, I'm doing development of a touch interface, hence why i'm looking for a touch interface, could you not read that?
Now what's really good about my hdtv is that I already own it. Is dpi everything? No, i have an n900 woth a 3.5" display at 800x600, is that going to be iseful for development?
What annoys me are people who can't read then go on rants and just assume people have money to spend, did you miss that part as well? It's seems the only thing you saw was hdtv and then you just mentally vomitted.
It's a little sad to see all that light pollution. I wonder my children eill ever be able to see the milky way... without having to pay for a space trip.
What i found most interesting was all the thunderstorms aligned over large distances.
Can you seriously buy two yards of dental floss? A whole spool of waxed linen is 2-3 dollars. about same price as dental floss, for a lot more yardage of courae
Your two points only illustrate that you are one of those people who infer things based on their preconceived viewpoints that have nothing to do with what was actually written. Just because each kindergartner has one doesn't mean the whole day will be spent in solitary use of it. Each kindergartner also has a notebook, did you spend your whole class alone with your notebook? You did no social activities whatsoever? Maybe you were a loner? It seems you would benefit from one of those logic apps.
Did you notice how i said the same thing twice but one had a method that would indicate that you are sincerely interested in the children's education? You chose to respond to the one where you can say you are concerned and feel righteous but not have any responsability to do anything. This indicates that you are most likely not interested in their education or you would be contributing to it, instead it seems you prefer to whine about things that have already happened and just say things to make yourself feel better. Actions speak louder than words, words just make the unimportant self-important.
Ad hominems can be used as a tool. They frequently force the person to drop their myopic focus on the semantics of an argument and pull back to a greater distance where they more accurately express their views. A tactic to be used on relatively few people who actually have something to say and the means to say it
Now, you need to stop over-generalizing and setting up strawmen. Do you really believe that all classroom time will now be devoted to solitary tablet use? Are you more concerned about the education of these children or the possibility that your wallet will become lighter in the future?
The focus should not be on exposing children to tech the way it is currently used by adults. In that sense it is a bad idea, the software we use is not geared towards data/knowledge acquisition and retention. If you are really concerned about the education of these children then perhaps you should stop whining about what already is and instead focus on what can be done to improve the use of these tools. It is always more efficient to mold current reality into the ideal then to fight reality back into the past. And let's face it, your education system is already broken, how about you focus on a solution? See my other posts for simple ideas that illustrate where this can go.
Games are rewarding ways to encourage education. That's why games have been used for millenia to teach, all you have to do is properly design the game.
Now, the big difference is that little children don't have very good fine motor skills. A touch screen takes advantage of something they've been using for years, their abiloty to point. You can even have a tablet on the ground between two children, a common form of social play. Can you do either of those with a computer?
I think the problem is most people are thinking like adults about usage by adults. What we need are software engineers with an education in development that are aware of play patterns of children. Sure, if you want to create cubicle denizens locked down into chairs then go ahead and by a traditional computer because it's 'cheaper'. You might save some money but you are losing out on a whole slew of educational possibilities and severely restricting the mobility of the child.
Btw, I use tablet instead ipad for a reason. I see endless possibilities for RAD on tablets but it isn't based on objective c! As soon as I get my hands on a desktop I'm going to start development on a visual touch interface for data acquisition and exploration for education based on lisp. Why lisp some may ask, what about that parentheses hell? I think what most people fail to grasp about lisp is that the parentheses are just grouping constructs, they can literally be anything that groups including graphical constructs like boxes. Grouping is something even a child understands. Most of the criticism seems to come from people with a 'programmers' mindset, which is usually way more literally minded than most people. The use of syntactic differences helps them to keep everything straight in their head and in the compilers, but really it's just grouping. Billions of people can use speach and appropriate pauses, how many can correctly write with proper syntax? How long does it take them to learn it? Why not just gear education to the ways humans naturally act and by that action focus more on knowledge acquisition instead of tool use?
Use of natural substances is different from refined substances. Half the drugs trafficked are refined physically addictive substances, the other half is cannabis.. Regardless, both are a type of escape from reality, but the use byby natives and shamanistic tribes is use, not abuse. We are talking about addiction here. Even the uses of cannabis, a strictly psychological addiction, is abused by western society.
I think the scientists confusion was based on the stupidity of the interviewer adding numbers from two seperate events to come up with 7. It doesn't help that the submitter lacks some basic sentence construction abilities in the summary.
I do see the millions of people who are lacking si/ple logic skills, an inability to read what is actually written and instead infer incorrect meaning, people who can't spell, people who were getting into trouble simply because one pwrson cannot give individualized attention to everybody etc..
I even see people like you wbo lack simple vision to see how these tools could be put to use? Homosapien? People like you aren't even habilis.
I'm not sure you'll get across to all the naysayers here. I'mnot sure any of them have children or have ever tried to teach children or they would automatically see the benefit such a a tool can provide. It's a wonder how so many tech geeks can't envision what can be achieved with tech. I'm just wondering how long it takes for slashdot to finally die, because it's clear the lucid thinkers are slowly leaving.
um, ebook reader? Really? How about software to work on letter recognition? Distinguishing easily confused letters, e.g. b/p. Simple alphabet chart with spoken letters?
come on, these are things ot takes a day to write, is ebook reader the best you could come up with? What are you even doing on slashdot?
How about even simple right/left teaching? Simple moral jidgement stories with choices? Pattern recognition? Shape recognition? Introsuction of simple mathematics pictorially?
This place is supposed to be full of techies and programmers and all I can see are people whining about how tech is a waste of resources and won't help education.
Can nobody really understand that it's the software that makes the difference? Can nobody really envision how immediate feedback would greatly accelerate learning? If you're a programmer why complain about tech being wasted on these kids and instead spend your eneegy programming to this demographic? If you have a child write them some software and just see how excited and engaged they can become just by pressing the key the key that corresponds to what is displayed on the screen. It took me a couple hours to do that and I had a 3 year old want play it for hours.
Really, if all you can do is complain about what the current state of reality is and can't envision how to make it a benefit to others then you are part of the problem with how the world currently is.
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straw bale homes are still expensive because the straw bale is just infill for a post and beam house and big honking pieces of wood are really expensive and the labour more so.
These are developing world housing structures, what makes you think they have developed world metropolitan land prices?
News for nerds? Or news for lazy people who can't research anything on their own let alone click on a link.
Perhaps you've never been to developing countries? This is a palace compared to some of the shacks here in mexico, even in the mountains where there's snow and water freezes. A large part of the country has no indoor heating maki.g nights here in the mountains colder than winters in canada.
Late seems more appropriate. Wouldn't timely suggest it was available for use during the actual earthquakes? ...or perhaps san fran is next?
Wow, you can look things up on wiki. How does this make any sense in the context of what he said? I speak french fluently which is why I asked if there was a slang meaning because US'ians frequently use french words to mean different things, usually with horrible spelling and pronounciation.
Can you please explain? I've never heard of this being impossible, isn't that eclipses are? Dark side of the moon? Moon landing pictures?
Does your bad use of french have some slang meaning? Because it doesn' make any sense in french.
what i would relove are lisp bindings for android on my tablet.I haven't been able to get anything done since my laptop died.
Now what's really good about my hdtv is that I already own it. Is dpi everything? No, i have an n900 woth a 3.5" display at 800x600, is that going to be iseful for development?
What annoys me are people who can't read then go on rants and just assume people have money to spend, did you miss that part as well? It's seems the only thing you saw was hdtv and then you just mentally vomitted.
What i found most interesting was all the thunderstorms aligned over large distances.
Can you seriously buy two yards of dental floss? A whole spool of waxed linen is 2-3 dollars. about same price as dental floss, for a lot more yardage of courae
ah, to live in a rich country.
If this is reasonably affordable I'll stop looking for a development machine with a touch interface and just buy this for my hdtv.
Did you notice how i said the same thing twice but one had a method that would indicate that you are sincerely interested in the children's education? You chose to respond to the one where you can say you are concerned and feel righteous but not have any responsability to do anything. This indicates that you are most likely not interested in their education or you would be contributing to it, instead it seems you prefer to whine about things that have already happened and just say things to make yourself feel better. Actions speak louder than words, words just make the unimportant self-important.
You do realize that dental floss is way more expensive than actual waxed linen right? Drop by your local sewing store if you're being serious.
Now, you need to stop over-generalizing and setting up strawmen. Do you really believe that all classroom time will now be devoted to solitary tablet use? Are you more concerned about the education of these children or the possibility that your wallet will become lighter in the future?
The focus should not be on exposing children to tech the way it is currently used by adults. In that sense it is a bad idea, the software we use is not geared towards data/knowledge acquisition and retention. If you are really concerned about the education of these children then perhaps you should stop whining about what already is and instead focus on what can be done to improve the use of these tools. It is always more efficient to mold current reality into the ideal then to fight reality back into the past. And let's face it, your education system is already broken, how about you focus on a solution? See my other posts for simple ideas that illustrate where this can go.
Now, the big difference is that little children don't have very good fine motor skills. A touch screen takes advantage of something they've been using for years, their abiloty to point. You can even have a tablet on the ground between two children, a common form of social play. Can you do either of those with a computer?
I think the problem is most people are thinking like adults about usage by adults. What we need are software engineers with an education in development that are aware of play patterns of children. Sure, if you want to create cubicle denizens locked down into chairs then go ahead and by a traditional computer because it's 'cheaper'. You might save some money but you are losing out on a whole slew of educational possibilities and severely restricting the mobility of the child.
Btw, I use tablet instead ipad for a reason. I see endless possibilities for RAD on tablets but it isn't based on objective c! As soon as I get my hands on a desktop I'm going to start development on a visual touch interface for data acquisition and exploration for education based on lisp. Why lisp some may ask, what about that parentheses hell? I think what most people fail to grasp about lisp is that the parentheses are just grouping constructs, they can literally be anything that groups including graphical constructs like boxes. Grouping is something even a child understands. Most of the criticism seems to come from people with a 'programmers' mindset, which is usually way more literally minded than most people. The use of syntactic differences helps them to keep everything straight in their head and in the compilers, but really it's just grouping. Billions of people can use speach and appropriate pauses, how many can correctly write with proper syntax? How long does it take them to learn it? Why not just gear education to the ways humans naturally act and by that action focus more on knowledge acquisition instead of tool use?
Use of natural substances is different from refined substances. Half the drugs trafficked are refined physically addictive substances, the other half is cannabis.. Regardless, both are a type of escape from reality, but the use byby natives and shamanistic tribes is use, not abuse. We are talking about addiction here. Even the uses of cannabis, a strictly psychological addiction, is abused by western society.
I think the scientists confusion was based on the stupidity of the interviewer adding numbers from two seperate events to come up with 7. It doesn't help that the submitter lacks some basic sentence construction abilities in the summary.
I even see people like you wbo lack simple vision to see how these tools could be put to use? Homosapien? People like you aren't even habilis.
I'm not sure you'll get across to all the naysayers here. I'mnot sure any of them have children or have ever tried to teach children or they would automatically see the benefit such a a tool can provide. It's a wonder how so many tech geeks can't envision what can be achieved with tech. I'm just wondering how long it takes for slashdot to finally die, because it's clear the lucid thinkers are slowly leaving.
come on, these are things ot takes a day to write, is ebook reader the best you could come up with? What are you even doing on slashdot?
How about even simple right/left teaching? Simple moral jidgement stories with choices? Pattern recognition? Shape recognition? Introsuction of simple mathematics pictorially?
Unles of course you have 19 pairs of eyes and 19 mouths.
Can nobody really understand that it's the software that makes the difference? Can nobody really envision how immediate feedback would greatly accelerate learning? If you're a programmer why complain about tech being wasted on these kids and instead spend your eneegy programming to this demographic? If you have a child write them some software and just see how excited and engaged they can become just by pressing the key the key that corresponds to what is displayed on the screen. It took me a couple hours to do that and I had a 3 year old want play it for hours.
Really, if all you can do is complain about what the current state of reality is and can't envision how to make it a benefit to others then you are part of the problem with how the world currently is.