Bah.. you sound like a person who couldnt follow a simple HOWTO and blames someone else for the problem.
These are the steps I took to configure nVidia drivers:
Download the drivers
tar -zxvf NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1251.tar.gz
tar -zxvf NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1251.tar.gz
Go into each directory and type make
Edit XF86Config file and change nv to nvidia
Thats it!!
That takes less time than ME or 2k to install and reboot the machine.
Re:So, what's a good Linux 3D card then?
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Get a Geforce3 if you have the $$$ or wait for a month or so.. there might be the 'MX' versions of the GeForce3 coming out..
If you dont play Quake3 at anything higher than 800x600 with all gfx options turned on you can stick with a Matrox G400. That card does better than average 3d and absolutely incredible 2d performance..
As for your problems in Linux.. try using AGPGART for AGP instead of NVDriver.. that helps...
Or if you have NVDriver as the AGP driver then dont use AGPGART.. they will conflict and lock up your system.. HARD..
I have been using nVidia cards for a while and except for a small issue with my GeForce DDR (hw issue, which was fixed when i got it replaced under warranty) I have had nothing but the best experience with nVidia.
OTOH I have replaced 3 ATI Radeon DDR cards in the past 3 months due to hw issues..
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You know something ? nVidia need not make drivers for Linux users at all.. nVidia can be like many other hardware manufactureres and say phuq linux.. How many of you even play 3d accelerated games?
If nVidia had made their drivers open source that would have been awesome, but even though they are closed source their current drivers rock!.. They have licensed a significant amount of technologies from other companies and hence cannot release the source due to the NDAs they have signed. I get great 2d and awesome 3d performance and I get to play Quake3 at 1024x768x32bpp at well over 65fps. (I Have a Geforce 2MX 32mb)
The question you should ask is "Is ATI gonna help us Linux users out by giving specs and helping with drivers?"
As for Matrox they did a great thing by releasing their specs and hence we get good if not great 3d performace on Linux.
If the ADT flaws werent made public the thieves would know about the flaws and would continue to exploit it, ADT doesnt give a shit about it and wont fix it since there is no outrage by customers etc.
I actually bought a copy of Windows 2000 for my personal use a while back. It was $200 something if I remember right.
As for Linux/BSD.. i have downloaded ISOs of Slackware, Debian, RH, Mdk and FreeBSD, OpenBSD. Of these I have gone and purchased the official boxed set of Slackware, FreeBSD ($99 with Applix), OpenBSD and Debian.
While the total amount of money I paid for Linux is more, consider this: I had it when I downloaded the ISOs, I paid and purchased the boxed kit because I wished to support the vendors as opposed to Windows which if I buy a machine, I get to buy Windows whether I want to or not.
When Windows XP comes out there isnt going to be a free download from MSFT, you are going to have to pay top dollar for it, but for Linux/BSD you can download an iso or get one from cheapbytes or LSL for $0.99..
Copying a game and installing on multiple machines isnt illegal in the US either. Just cannot run it at the same time.
On another point in the EULA you are allowed to make one backup copy for archival purposes, but the newer CDs have copy protection measures due to which I cant make a backup copy.. oh well there goes that..
I dont acknowledge that freedom from religeon or freedom of religion really does exist, just that its very close.
But thats not really the point is it ? Slamming one person for not believing or believing certain things is quite a bit different from trying to control a society by brute force are 2 different things. For example ppl here on slashdot can slam the "Christian Fundamentalist Idiots" and the religious ppl can slam "Stupid geek fundamentalists of/." as well, but in the end you are NOT FORCED to the rules of either party. Thats where the difference lies. The Taliban use Islam as the tool to further their own bloody cause. Imagine the need to wear a yellow cloth just cause you are Hindu, imagine that if your sister walks out of the house and her face isnt properly covered , a group of people grab her and stone her to death. What if just because you are a Shia Muslim you get killed by the Sunni majority because they think Shia's are blasphemous? How about an entire set of _laws_ of which any can be used to KILL you? Compared to that, yes US and many western countries DO have freedom of religion...
Many people think it is Islam which is the cause of all this. I dont think so.. its the people in power who distort it to keep themselves in power. Just a reminder to all :
I am sorry to say this, but that is utter crock. The talibar arent really concerned with Islamic values per se, but they use that as an excuse to remain in power. You say you havent lived in Afghanistan all you life. I havent lived in Afghanistan either, but I *have* lived in an islamic country. I have seen and experienced to what extent Islamic law can be 'forced' upon you. Luckily for me the country I lived in wasnt as fanatical.
I did make a trip to Saudi once, in which I was asked my religion and a temporary ID was made for me WITH my religion stated on it. Others who have gone there have had religeous items removed till they left the country. Agreed the people made the choice to go there, but it is still doscrimination. YOu can bet that the Taliban practice the worst point of this discrimination. Lately destroying the Buddha statues, making hindus wear a yellow cloth i.e all reeks of the discrimination jews were made to endure during the holocoust.
In Islamic law, the charge of blasphemy can be used by any Muslim to presecute any person who ractices another religion, in fact that can be applied to other mUslims as well. The Shia's have been getting persecuted there as well. The northern half is Shi'a dominated where as the Taleban is Sunni..
I could ramble on and on.. but point of the matter is that the Taliban arent misguided people trying to do the right thing, but a group who is in power using a peaceful religion in a violent matter to discriminate, intimidate and destroy other people..
I believe Sims was already ported to Linux. Here is a quote from Linuxgames.com
Draeker on the Sims - Monday Mar 05 19:02:50 2001 - Updated by Crusader
Loki Software President Scott Draeker posted a comment today in response to Don Hopkin's recent post on Slashdot regarding a Sims Linux port: Yes, Don came to us with a proposal to port The Sims. Yes, we talked to Maxis about it. And yes, we declined to do the deal. Maxis wanted too much money.
they have bootable cdroms and they also provide you with an eltorito.img so you can download the entire tree and make a bootable iso yourself Just a reminder to all :
True, but with the GPL the govt can put federally funded software in the open without having a company take the product and market it for full profit
After all its OUR money which funds government projects and i dont want my money to go to a company which will try to sell me the product I funded in the first place.
You have a moral right to do whatever you want with your property.. Hell you can burn 1000 CDs and make real pretty cd covers and give it away in Uganda under a closed source license for all I care.
What he was trying to say is that HE prefers to give it under a GPL... so the community could get something back and everybody benefits.
I myself prefer that if I release something and someone else makes a ton of money off _my_ product I am entitled to some part of that.. BSDL allows other people to rip anything I released under that as long as they put the copyright somewhere in the code. If someone enhances what I have written and it benefits the community then thats fine by me too;)
The swastika is actually an ancient Hindu symbol which means 'Let good happen from all sides'
I know some Indian families who when moving into a new house or buying a new car they put swastikas on it for good luck. But in Europe or US swastika = Nazi and these redneck white supremacist clubs also use the swastika as their symbol of white power as well.
While Office is pretty good what is worrying is the fact that Company A makes an innovative Product. Microsoft liked it, embraces, extends and slightly changes certain things, copyrights the changes and make that a standard hence getting an idea for free, locking the original developer out.
I agree with you on the prices. We leased 4 Titanium G4s and they resent the lease with a lower price due to a better lease option (I didnt request the new lease) The montly payment is lower and i have saved some $$
On to support, Apple's support as long as you are in the 90 day period is not too bad. But cross the 90 day period, for anything you need to give a CC#. We purchased a G4 Cube for one of the execs (They all want neat looking things which may be useless) and it had a heating problem, lockups, random reboots etc. They wouldnt even speak to me unless I let them charge $50 or take it to an Apple service center, pay $100 and then ship it out.
Dell on the other had provides great support, a tech is dispatched within 48 hours for free in the first year, and till the 3rd year you can still get an RMA# for free;)
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Maybe I was on drugs, but it ran pretty darn well on my dual Voodoo2s
These are the steps I took to configure nVidia drivers:
- Download the drivers
- tar -zxvf NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1251.tar.gz
- tar -zxvf NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1251.tar.gz
- Go into each directory and type make
- Edit XF86Config file and change nv to nvidia
Thats it!!That takes less time than ME or 2k to install and reboot the machine.
Get a Geforce3 if you have the $$$ or wait for a month or so .. there might be the 'MX' versions of the GeForce3 coming out ..
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If you dont play Quake3 at anything higher than 800x600 with all gfx options turned on you can stick with a Matrox G400. That card does better than average 3d and absolutely incredible 2d performance
As for your problems in Linux .. try using AGPGART for AGP instead of NVDriver .. that helps ...
.. they will conflict and lock up your system .. HARD ..
Or if you have NVDriver as the AGP driver then dont use AGPGART
I have been using nVidia cards for a while and except for a small issue with my GeForce DDR (hw issue, which was fixed when i got it replaced under warranty) I have had nothing but the best experience with nVidia.
OTOH I have replaced 3 ATI Radeon DDR cards in the past 3 months due to hw issues..
You know something ? nVidia need not make drivers for Linux users at all .. nVidia can be like many other hardware manufactureres and say phuq linux .. How many of you even play 3d accelerated games?
.. They have licensed a significant amount of technologies from other companies and hence cannot release the source due to the NDAs they have signed. I get great 2d and awesome 3d performance and I get to play Quake3 at 1024x768x32bpp at well over 65fps. (I Have a Geforce 2MX 32mb)
If nVidia had made their drivers open source that would have been awesome, but even though they are closed source their current drivers rock!
The question you should ask is "Is ATI gonna help us Linux users out by giving specs and helping with drivers?"
As for Matrox they did a great thing by releasing their specs and hence we get good if not great 3d performace on Linux.
and some more
Yea my Next Station Color has a 2.88mb floppy drive.
So if i own a hash cafe in Amsterdam and some kid purchases a pound of Afghani Red from me and brings it to US am I still a dealer ?
In reference to your analogy how bout this?
If the ADT flaws werent made public the thieves would know about the flaws and would continue to exploit it, ADT doesnt give a shit about it and wont fix it since there is no outrage by customers etc.
I actually bought a copy of Windows 2000 for my personal use a while back. It was $200 something if I remember right.
.. i have downloaded ISOs of Slackware, Debian, RH, Mdk and FreeBSD, OpenBSD. Of these I have gone and purchased the official boxed set of Slackware, FreeBSD ($99 with Applix), OpenBSD and Debian.
..
As for Linux/BSD
While the total amount of money I paid for Linux is more, consider this: I had it when I downloaded the ISOs, I paid and purchased the boxed kit because I wished to support the vendors as opposed to Windows which if I buy a machine, I get to buy Windows whether I want to or not.
When Windows XP comes out there isnt going to be a free download from MSFT, you are going to have to pay top dollar for it, but for Linux/BSD you can download an iso or get one from cheapbytes or LSL for $0.99
I am using Slack 8 and I havent had a single problem compiling the kernel. What gcc are you using ?
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Copying a game and installing on multiple machines isnt illegal in the US either. Just cannot run it at the same time.
.. oh well there goes that ..
On another point in the EULA you are allowed to make one backup copy for archival purposes, but the newer CDs have copy protection measures due to which I cant make a backup copy
Just a reminder to all :
I dont acknowledge that freedom from religeon or freedom of religion really does exist, just that its very close. But thats not really the point is it ? Slamming one person for not believing or believing certain things is quite a bit different from trying to control a society by brute force are 2 different things. For example ppl here on slashdot can slam the "Christian Fundamentalist Idiots" and the religious ppl can slam "Stupid geek fundamentalists of /." as well, but in the end you are NOT FORCED to the rules of either party. Thats where the difference lies. The Taliban use Islam as the tool to further their own bloody cause. Imagine the need to wear a yellow cloth just cause you are Hindu, imagine that if your sister walks out of the house and her face isnt properly covered , a group of people grab her and stone her to death. What if just because you are a Shia Muslim you get killed by the Sunni majority because they think Shia's are blasphemous? How about an entire set of _laws_ of which any can be used to KILL you? Compared to that, yes US and many western countries DO have freedom of religion...
.. its the people in power who distort it to keep themselves in power.
Many people think it is Islam which is the cause of all this. I dont think so
Just a reminder to all :
I am sorry to say this, but that is utter crock. The talibar arent really concerned with Islamic values per se, but they use that as an excuse to remain in power. You say you havent lived in Afghanistan all you life. I havent lived in Afghanistan either, but I *have* lived in an islamic country. I have seen and experienced to what extent Islamic law can be 'forced' upon you. Luckily for me the country I lived in wasnt as fanatical.
..
.. but point of the matter is that the Taliban arent misguided people trying to do the right thing, but a group who is in power using a peaceful religion in a violent matter to discriminate, intimidate and destroy other people ..
I did make a trip to Saudi once, in which I was asked my religion and a temporary ID was made for me WITH my religion stated on it. Others who have gone there have had religeous items removed till they left the country. Agreed the people made the choice to go there, but it is still doscrimination. YOu can bet that the Taliban practice the worst point of this discrimination. Lately destroying the Buddha statues, making hindus wear a yellow cloth i.e all reeks of the discrimination jews were made to endure during the holocoust.
In Islamic law, the charge of blasphemy can be used by any Muslim to presecute any person who ractices another religion, in fact that can be applied to other mUslims as well. The Shia's have been getting persecuted there as well. The northern half is Shi'a dominated where as the Taleban is Sunni
I could ramble on and on
Just a reminder to all :
Dude your sig kicks ass ;)
Just a reminder to all :
I believe Sims was already ported to Linux. Here is a quote from Linuxgames.com
Draeker on the Sims - Monday Mar 05 19:02:50 2001 - Updated by Crusader
Loki Software President Scott Draeker posted a comment today in response to Don Hopkin's recent post on Slashdot regarding a Sims Linux port: Yes, Don came to us with a proposal to port The Sims. Yes, we talked to Maxis about it. And yes, we declined to do the deal. Maxis wanted too much money.
they have bootable cdroms and they also provide you with an eltorito.img so you can download the entire tree and make a bootable iso yourself
Just a reminder to all :
Just buy the set from http://store.slackware.com or get it from cheapbytes or something
Just a reminder to all :
But people also run LInux and BSD without running X at all .. so would you say that they are essentiall y working on a system which isnt turned on ?
Just a reminder to all :
True, but with the GPL the govt can put federally funded software in the open without having a company take the product and market it for full profit
After all its OUR money which funds government projects and i dont want my money to go to a company which will try to sell me the product I funded in the first place.
Just a reminder to all :
Whats gotten your panties in a twist?
Just a reminder to all :
You have a moral right to do whatever you want with your property .. Hell you can burn 1000 CDs and make real pretty cd covers and give it away in Uganda under a closed source license for all I care.
... so the community could get something back and everybody benefits.
.. BSDL allows other people to rip anything I released under that as long as they put the copyright somewhere in the code. If someone enhances what I have written and it benefits the community then thats fine by me too ;)
What he was trying to say is that HE prefers to give it under a GPL
I myself prefer that if I release something and someone else makes a ton of money off _my_ product I am entitled to some part of that
Just a reminder to all :
The swastika is actually an ancient Hindu symbol which means 'Let good happen from all sides'
I know some Indian families who when moving into a new house or buying a new car they put swastikas on it for good luck. But in Europe or US swastika = Nazi and these redneck white supremacist clubs also use the swastika as their symbol of white power as well.
Just a reminder to all :
Bull.
While Office is pretty good what is worrying is the fact that Company A makes an innovative Product. Microsoft liked it, embraces, extends and slightly changes certain things, copyrights the changes and make that a standard hence getting an idea for free, locking the original developer out.
Just a reminder to all :
I agree with you on the prices. We leased 4 Titanium G4s and they resent the lease with a lower price due to a better lease option (I didnt request the new lease) The montly payment is lower and i have saved some $$
;)
On to support, Apple's support as long as you are in the 90 day period is not too bad. But cross the 90 day period, for anything you need to give a CC#. We purchased a G4 Cube for one of the execs (They all want neat looking things which may be useless) and it had a heating problem, lockups, random reboots etc. They wouldnt even speak to me unless I let them charge $50 or take it to an Apple service center, pay $100 and then ship it out.
Dell on the other had provides great support, a tech is dispatched within 48 hours for free in the first year, and till the 3rd year you can still get an RMA# for free
Just a reminder to all :