There are generally three or four *main* strains going around each year, and a bunch of other less common ones. That's why flu shots are way less effective than would be hoped. This year the US is saying about 19% effective because they picked the strains they thought would be the most common threats.
And why I've always refused a flu shot or other frivolous concoctions. When Regan made the older folks take the shots he weeded out the weak ones; I've read many articles where a "harmless" vaccine has caused unbelievable problems for some. I'm fairly healthy less my post below so don't feel it worth the risk.
Living in Washington State I won't even get my dog a rabies shot as the chances are so rare he would become effected, and so great it could take him out. This statement even agreed to by a veterinarian, mentioning the lack of rabies in this area and carried only by bats which in 40 years here seeing only one, and it stuck inside a tree limb that was cut down.
I've always claimed I had hepatitis, twice in fact the first time when I was 5 years old, yet no clue which "strain", last year I had blood work done to test for hepatitis, it came back I had had A and B, not a carrier and I haven't had hepatitis in quite sometime, as told by the antibodies.
A few weeks ago I proved to my self age is catching up, by dropping to the floor when my Kidneys quit working, a series of unusual events saved my life. A blood test was taken (as expected) but they could measure an enzyme and tell I how long I had been on the floor (a very long time). While kool trying to piece together what happened to me, it was claimed by those living close by I was down for less than the given time (so still a bit of work left) - Kidneys started right back up and not a problem now, but I was told I was the bluest person anyone had ever seen.
A blood test from me was explained to my sister as I thought I was being treated in North Korea (just out of it), she couldn't believe what they were able to tell with just that one sample (apparently a lot), she was quite impressed as it was being explained to her.
BTW if interested, I'm retired and the hospital bill less the ambulance ride there came to over $8000, my amount due is $0.00, I've got some great insurance I lucked into just by being older. (and not Obama care).
But with just those two examples, I can see a tell all blood test in the near future.
Charter.com is my IP and IPv6 is only mentioned to say it's not enabled..The decoder boxes (what their cat 5 plugs into) if you access them IPv6 isn't even an option. It would require a major undertaking to change out all of the boxes, they just aren't IPv6 ready. The boxes are programmable to a point through support services, but I wouldn't think IPv6 an easy update, or even possible due to the limited storage space available.
As mentioned at the start of the thread it's sad to see yahoo starting to shutdown. I remember when Yahoo was considered the leader of the pack and the most used search engine.. I was one of it's first users but Google was better from day one and offered less on it's main page so I switched.
Not the first site I've had an account yet can't access anymore, so a different note bye bye Yahoo, I spent three hours tonight trying to create a new account on yahoo.com (for the PowerPro discussion group) after numerous verifications replies I still couldn't get in. HOSTS file was blocking me (yes, it took that long to figure out, as it rarely causes problems), I'm not going to disable my HOSTS file for yahoo, and it's too large to effectively find the offending entry.
If it was a problem I'd trim the file down a bit but only yahoo has given me any problems.
Read the article, it seems a filler as it comes to no conclusion. I copied pertinent info to me, with some notes but nothing extreme.
Out of context quotes from the article:
"Newsweek International - this threw me but it's Newsweek, International news a reputable mag.
"As far as anybody knows, no such theft ever occurred at the institute..."
"But keeping close track of pathogen cultures is next to impossible, even for the most tightly run lab."
"the Big Fear-the one driving President George W. Bush's most important decisions and dire pronouncements-is that a terrorist group like Al Qaeda will eventually get its hands on weapons of mass destruction." (was he ever right?)
"Documents recovered from Qaeda safe houses and camps in Afghanistan "show that bin Laden was pursuing a sophisticated biological weapons research program," -Apparently they can't even grow castor beans.
"According to U.S. intelligence reports, some Russian experts traveled to Kandahar for job interviews with unidentified Qaeda leaders. Intelligence officials believe the Russians turned down the chance to work for bin Laden, however, and by all accounts Al Qaeda's efforts to make or acquire bioweapons have gone nowhere."
"So how worried should we be? At their peak, the Soviets probably employed upwards of 60, 000 people on bioweapons projects, which produced a greater volume and variety of deadly agents than any other country. When Ken Alibek, a senior Soviet bioweapons official, defected in 1992, he described a staggering offensive bioweapons production"
"Not everyone agrees. It would be irresponsible for an expert like Smithson not to be concerned, but many respected specialists believe the numbers of unemployed bioweapons scientists are exaggerated. Alibek, the Soviet defector, has said that there are perhaps 100 former Soviet scientists capable of building a soup-to-nuts bioweapons factory. Western bioweapons experts put that figure higher-"the low hundreds,"
"Two years ago the DOD began helping former Soviet bioweapons labs to beef up security. The institute in Alma-Ata, which houses cultures of nonweaponized, but still dangerous, germs, now boasts a 2.5-meter concrete wall topped with barbed wire. Two guards armed with stun guns and tear gas patrol the front and rear entrances."
"U.S. officials have long worried about lax security at former Soviet bioweapons facilities. These concerns were heightened after the September 11 attacks. Select from the cities below to find out where bio-weapons agents are located in Russia:
IIRC, The Last Question ended with Universal AC saying "Let there be light", and not mentioning God. The "Now there is" was from a Frederic Brown story of about the same age.
I was sure of the same thing but posted what I found (I mean who would change a copyrighted story on the Internet), I think "let there be light" was a much better ending.
Did the Frederic Brown story end "there is now" (a god) ? if so I've read it as well.
"He threw the switch connecting all the galaxies computing power, and asked the question: " Is there a god"" From the speaker he heard the reply "Now there is"
Have you seen the Soviet's bio-weopons program? Its a bunch of old refridgerators filled with tupperware of plague, tuleremia, anthrax, etc. Its not locked or guarded or anything. I think we can safely continue to condemn the Soviets.
No, can't say I have, yet certainly expected a level of expertise behind them
I telnet'ed into your/the site, gave em my email address and have been waiting for a password since.
Rant alert!
I POP3 my email from Gmail, many other accounts specifically hotmail are forwarded to Gmail. It's just safe hex, Agent wouldn't show html code just text only. I've been forced to update from 1.93 to version 6 which is so different I've avoided it. SSL is required so I run/ran stunnel as 1.93 doesn't have it, version 6 does. Stunnel has quit working it's not that hard to configure, but it did stop soon after updating and no version will run now.
There are Persona's now added to Agent's many abilities that to configure it for the first time is time consuming as well as confusing. 1.93 I'd just pull a shortcut to the latest fresh installed OS and not miss a beat, 1.93 took years to tweak to my liking.
It was a time consuming affair more so as I was POPing from two servers at once, Gmail and live.com (whatever MS calls it) I can't access my Hotmail account, but it works, still forwarding my email and all is well, as long as I don't try to access it ever again. I created an live.com account (Windows Insider that couldn't agree to the ToS) using an old account (gmail) and handle that would get thousands of google hits, mostly from tomshardware.com who pulls in Usenet groups, passing them off as their own.
FWIW I use Acerose as my password manager some files date back to 2007 and pry when I started using it I know what my passwords, username, and secret hand shaking are and that they are correct. Damn checking it I find fourteenfiftytwo@live.com I don't remember creating the account but did have a real hard time creating my present live.com account. It was me logging in on one screen with another set to Gmail for the refresh and validation that was never satisfied all for a useless account (I wouldn't give out my mobile number), I don't ever expect a site to call me and I'm on top of my security (as well as I can), and they don't need more info than required to log in, yet post of my life on/. ironic eh?
-an important tangent-
My Mom (82) is not senile but the only way to describe it, not being able to access the internet to her was E-mail, which she hasn't been able to access in ages, I thought differently as I'd prove to her she had Internet access, or fix it to where she did but the complaint was continual only this week did I clue into the problem (it's been years).
I created her an Email account on my Charter account which has always allowed me 6 email addresses, called her up and worked out her username and password (not an easy feat folks) set her up, and it works out I haven't access to her account (important to me, not to her), and wrote her an email so she's have something when she accessed the account, the email wouldn't send.
It took hours to figure it out as I set up Agent a long time ago, just changing servers as IP accounts changed only. the only email program I've configured since is Agent 6 (this week), I'm still working on it's config. So email has never a concern, nor a thought given to there being a problem with it.
Get this, live.com created an outlook account on my system, going as far as adding it's POP3\smtp servers to Agent (an.INI edit, would do it), then setting outlook as the default email service, it's not even on my system, it would just be useless overhead.
Persistent SOBs the Microsoft team. I get this requester http://i60.tinypic.com/nedqok.... continually. I unset auto for the picture - there's a war of emailers going on at a furious rate at this time . Agent and one (outlook)I have never set up, used, let alone ever installed, if auto installed, removed when it caught my eye. (it's a good pic address but I can't access them myself after uploading them, so...(HOSTS file most likely).
My live.com handle which has a Persona of Usenet only and Gmail being my main server (hell so I thought) and a different persona that hasn
I hated LORD, it would tie up my 1 line BBS with useless people playing games when they should be uploading stuff and maintaining their ratio. I had a few other BBS doors that tended to tie up the line less, but man was LORD popular back in the day.
That's funny in away, I had a 6 line Cnet (chat board) I'd get ticked if someone uploaded or downloaded but let it go.
Not many doors for the Amiga, the IBM BBS's had the best games a fav of mine was Food Fight.
I had a user who made two game using MCI code only, tick tack toe and Stones (7 stones don't take the last one to win). People still swear it can't be done (MCI game).
2010 Mystery of the Dying Bees Solved
"As it turns out, the fungus N. ceranae that was thought to be killing off bee colonies had a partner in crime — a DNA-based virus that worked in tandem with N. ceranae to compromise nutrition uptake" Note: (N. ceranae = Parasite) http://science.slashdot.org/st...
Mozilla is already doing it. Why should Microsoft be any different? They can't let the open source community out-evil them!
I just disable the service: MozillaMaintenance and hope for the best, while called maintenance it's mostly for updates which I don't appreciate being installed without notice. It's also my secondary browser and rarely used (Battlefield 3 requires it (Plugins)).
When Chrome slipped through while installing Google Earth, I also disabled it's maintenance service, before just removing it all together.
As for browsers updating, Opera 25+ is awful for this. There is no service to disable and it updates at will with no warning nor indication it's done so. I caught it by accident looking for the version of Opera (Help:about Opera) and it said it was in the process of updating; the only way you will know, outside of a new version number after the fact. I don't use Opera 25+, it just needs to be installed.
Opera 12 is my browser of choice, if it ever updates I'm screwed:}
But would have to be post-apocalyptic, as after the oil runs out it's all going to be different. As off the wall as any electricity produced going to national security, Your T.V. ain't.
Charter Communications ("Charter") has been notified by a copyright owner, or its authorized agent, that your Internet account may have been involved in the exchange of unauthorized copies of copyrighted material" = a strike. I have 8 against me for something you can view on youtube.
-Might be a dupe having a bit of a/. connection problem.
Charter Communications ("Charter") has been notified by a copyright owner, or its authorized agent, that your Internet account may have been involved in the exchange of unauthorized copies of copyrighted material" = a strike. I have 8 against me for something you can view on youtube.
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There are generally three or four *main* strains going around each year, and a bunch of other less common ones. That's why flu shots are way less effective than would be hoped. This year the US is saying about 19% effective because they picked the strains they thought would be the most common threats.
And why I've always refused a flu shot or other frivolous concoctions. When Regan made the older folks take the shots he weeded out the weak ones; I've read many articles where a "harmless" vaccine has caused unbelievable problems for some. I'm fairly healthy less my post below so don't feel it worth the risk.
Living in Washington State I won't even get my dog a rabies shot as the chances are so rare he would become effected, and so great it could take him out. This statement even agreed to by a veterinarian, mentioning the lack of rabies in this area and carried only by bats which in 40 years here seeing only one, and it stuck inside a tree limb that was cut down.
I've always claimed I had hepatitis, twice in fact the first time when I was 5 years old, yet no clue which "strain", last year I had blood work done to test for hepatitis, it came back I had had A and B, not a carrier and I haven't had hepatitis in quite sometime, as told by the antibodies.
A few weeks ago I proved to my self age is catching up, by dropping to the floor when my Kidneys quit working, a series of unusual events saved my life. A blood test was taken (as expected) but they could measure an enzyme and tell I how long I had been on the floor (a very long time). While kool trying to piece together what happened to me, it was claimed by those living close by I was down for less than the given time (so still a bit of work left) - Kidneys started right back up and not a problem now, but I was told I was the bluest person anyone had ever seen.
A blood test from me was explained to my sister as I thought I was being treated in North Korea (just out of it), she couldn't believe what they were able to tell with just that one sample (apparently a lot), she was quite impressed as it was being explained to her.
BTW if interested, I'm retired and the hospital bill less the ambulance ride there came to over $8000, my amount due is $0.00, I've got some great insurance I lucked into just by being older. (and not Obama care).
But with just those two examples, I can see a tell all blood test in the near future.
As most of the time those on the ground are always watching the sky. Not a good way to live ones life. Allah be praised, and make it painless..
You have to accept the security issues of java, while installing it, Now if javascript would lose it's following.
I'd suggest giving Opera a try but it will update itself with no warning it will or has.
US Prosecutors Say Clearing Browser Data Can Be Obstruction of Justice
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/...
No joke, you gave one option, had to make it a good one.
Charter.com is my IP and IPv6 is only mentioned to say it's not enabled..The decoder boxes (what their cat 5 plugs into) if you access them IPv6 isn't even an option. It would require a major undertaking to change out all of the boxes, they just aren't IPv6 ready. The boxes are programmable to a point through support services, but I wouldn't think IPv6 an easy update, or even possible due to the limited storage space available.
As mentioned at the start of the thread it's sad to see yahoo starting to shutdown. I remember when Yahoo was considered the leader of the pack and the most used search engine.. I was one of it's first users but Google was better from day one and offered less on it's main page so I switched.
Not the first site I've had an account yet can't access anymore, so a different note bye bye Yahoo, I spent three hours tonight trying to create a new account on yahoo.com (for the PowerPro discussion group) after numerous verifications replies I still couldn't get in. HOSTS file was blocking me (yes, it took that long to figure out, as it rarely causes problems), I'm not going to disable my HOSTS file for yahoo, and it's too large to effectively find the offending entry.
If it was a problem I'd trim the file down a bit but only yahoo has given me any problems.
http://www.rense.com/general20/hugestocksAL.htm
Read the article, it seems a filler as it comes to no conclusion. I copied pertinent info to me, with some notes but nothing extreme.
Out of context quotes from the article:
"Newsweek International - this threw me but it's Newsweek, International news a reputable mag.
"As far as anybody knows, no such theft ever occurred at the institute..."
"But keeping close track of pathogen cultures is next to impossible, even for the most tightly run lab."
"the Big Fear-the one driving President George W. Bush's most important decisions and dire pronouncements-is that a terrorist group like Al Qaeda will eventually get its hands on weapons of mass destruction." (was he ever right?)
"Documents recovered from Qaeda safe houses and camps in Afghanistan "show that bin Laden was pursuing a sophisticated biological weapons research program,"
-Apparently they can't even grow castor beans.
"According to U.S. intelligence reports, some Russian experts traveled to Kandahar for job interviews with unidentified Qaeda leaders. Intelligence officials believe the Russians turned down the chance to work for bin Laden, however, and by all accounts Al Qaeda's efforts to make or acquire bioweapons have gone nowhere."
"So how worried should we be? At their peak, the Soviets probably employed upwards of 60, 000 people on bioweapons projects, which produced a greater volume and variety of deadly agents than any other country. When Ken Alibek, a senior Soviet bioweapons official, defected in 1992, he described a staggering offensive bioweapons production"
"Not everyone agrees. It would be irresponsible for an expert like Smithson not to be concerned, but many respected specialists believe the numbers of unemployed bioweapons scientists are exaggerated. Alibek, the Soviet defector, has said that there are perhaps 100 former Soviet scientists capable of building a soup-to-nuts bioweapons factory. Western bioweapons experts put that figure higher-"the low hundreds,"
"Two years ago the DOD began helping former Soviet bioweapons labs to beef up security. The institute in Alma-Ata, which houses cultures of nonweaponized, but still dangerous, germs, now boasts a 2.5-meter concrete wall topped with barbed wire. Two guards armed with stun guns and tear gas patrol the front and rear entrances."
"U.S. officials have long worried about lax security at former Soviet bioweapons facilities. These concerns were heightened after the September 11 attacks. Select from the cities below to find out where bio-weapons agents are located in Russia:
Kirov - Plague, Anthrax
Koltsovo - Smallpox, Hemorrhagic fevers (including Ebola, Marburg, Lassa Viruses and others)
Minsk - Anthrax, Tularemia, Plague
Obninsk - Hemorrhagic fevers (including Ebola, Marburg, Lassa Viruses and others)
Omutninsk - Plague, Tularemia
Penza - Anthrax
Rostov - Anthrax, Tularemia, Plague
Samara - Anthrax, Tularemia, Plague
Saratov - Anthrax, Tularemia, Plague
Sergiyev Posad - Tularemia
Stavropol - Anthrax, Tularemia, Plague
St. Petersberg - Anthrax, Tularemia, Plague
Tbilisi - Hemorrhagic fevers (including Ebola, Marburg, Lassa Viruses and others)
Volgograd - Anthrax, Tularemia, Plague
Yekaterinburg - Tularemia, Botulism""
Replace "biological weapons" with "Nuclear weapons" and the articles on that subject read the same.
I guess the bottom line is if it's so freaking easy to acquire how come it hasn't been used yet?
IIRC, The Last Question ended with Universal AC saying "Let there be light", and not mentioning God. The "Now there is" was from a Frederic Brown story of about the same age.
I was sure of the same thing but posted what I found (I mean who would change a copyrighted story on the Internet), I think "let there be light" was a much better ending.
Did the Frederic Brown story end "there is now" (a god) ? if so I've read it as well.
I prefer the last answer
"He threw the switch connecting all the galaxies computing power, and asked the question: " Is there a god""
From the speaker he heard the reply "Now there is"
The Last Question by Isaac Asimov © 1956 http://www.multivax.com/last_q...
Have you seen the Soviet's bio-weopons program? Its a bunch of old refridgerators filled with tupperware of plague, tuleremia, anthrax, etc. Its not locked or guarded or anything. I think we can safely continue to condemn the Soviets.
No, can't say I have, yet certainly expected a level of expertise behind them
lack of nuclear safe guards, and it's very close to the same thing.
But we will (and should), as if nothing had happened.
Declaration of Independence allows it, with no repercussions.
Sometimes an anti-piracy scheme comes into play that the only reply can be "well done". http://tinyurl.com/p8e75q5 /. http://hardware.slashdot.org/s...
This links to
I had to use tinyurl without preview to get it to fit, have to sell it first - if your going to take the time to share a great read.
I telnet'ed into your/the site, gave em my email address and have been waiting for a password since.
Rant alert!
I POP3 my email from Gmail, many other accounts specifically hotmail are forwarded to Gmail. It's just safe hex, Agent wouldn't show html code just text only. I've been forced to update from 1.93 to version 6 which is so different I've avoided it. SSL is required so I run/ran stunnel as 1.93 doesn't have it, version 6 does. Stunnel has quit working it's not that hard to configure, but it did stop soon after updating and no version will run now.
There are Persona's now added to Agent's many abilities that to configure it for the first time is time consuming as well as confusing. 1.93 I'd just pull a shortcut to the latest fresh installed OS and not miss a beat, 1.93 took years to tweak to my liking.
It was a time consuming affair more so as I was POPing from two servers at once, Gmail and live.com (whatever MS calls it) I can't access my Hotmail account, but it works, still forwarding my email and all is well, as long as I don't try to access it ever again. I created an live.com account (Windows Insider that couldn't agree to the ToS) using an old account (gmail) and handle that would get thousands of google hits, mostly from tomshardware.com who pulls in Usenet groups, passing them off as their own.
FWIW I use Acerose as my password manager some files date back to 2007 and pry when I started using it I know what my passwords, username, and secret hand shaking are and that they are correct. Damn checking it I find fourteenfiftytwo@live.com I don't remember creating the account but did have a real hard time creating my present live.com account. It was me logging in on one screen with another set to Gmail for the refresh and validation that was never satisfied all for a useless account (I wouldn't give out my mobile number), I don't ever expect a site to call me and I'm on top of my security (as well as I can), and they don't need more info than required to log in, yet post of my life on /. ironic eh?
-an important tangent-
My Mom (82) is not senile but the only way to describe it, not being able to access the internet to her was E-mail, which she hasn't been able to access in ages, I thought differently as I'd prove to her she had Internet access, or fix it to where she did but the complaint was continual only this week did I clue into the problem (it's been years).
I created her an Email account on my Charter account which has always allowed me 6 email addresses, called her up and worked out her username and password (not an easy feat folks) set her up, and it works out I haven't access to her account (important to me, not to her), and wrote her an email so she's have something when she accessed the account, the email wouldn't send.
It took hours to figure it out as I set up Agent a long time ago, just changing servers as IP accounts changed only. the only email program I've configured since is Agent 6 (this week), I'm still working on it's config. So email has never a concern, nor a thought given to there being a problem with it.
Get this, live.com created an outlook account on my system, going as far as adding it's POP3\smtp servers to Agent (an .INI edit, would do it), then setting outlook as the default email service, it's not even on my system, it would just be useless overhead.
Persistent SOBs the Microsoft team. I get this requester http://i60.tinypic.com/nedqok.... continually. I unset auto for the picture - there's a war of emailers going on at a furious rate at this time . Agent and one (outlook)I have never set up, used, let alone ever installed, if auto installed, removed when it caught my eye. (it's a good pic address but I can't access them myself after uploading them, so...(HOSTS file most likely).
My live.com handle which has a Persona of Usenet only and Gmail being my main server (hell so I thought) and a different persona that hasn
I hated LORD, it would tie up my 1 line BBS with useless people playing games when they should be uploading stuff and maintaining their ratio.
I had a few other BBS doors that tended to tie up the line less, but man was LORD popular back in the day.
That's funny in away, I had a 6 line Cnet (chat board) I'd get ticked if someone uploaded or downloaded but let it go.
Not many doors for the Amiga, the IBM BBS's had the best games a fav of mine was Food Fight.
I had a user who made two game using MCI code only, tick tack toe and Stones (7 stones don't take the last one to win). People still swear it can't be done (MCI game).
I didn't play it, but it was very popular with the users.
Post to Submission that originally linked to paywall
2009
Scientists Isolate and Treat Parasite Causing Decline in Honey Bee Population
http://science.slashdot.org/st...
2010
Mystery of the Dying Bees Solved
"As it turns out, the fungus N. ceranae that was thought to be killing off bee colonies had a partner in crime — a DNA-based virus that worked in tandem with N. ceranae to compromise nutrition uptake" Note: (N. ceranae = Parasite)
http://science.slashdot.org/st...
2012
Studies Link Pesticides To Bee Colony Collapse Disorder
http://science.slashdot.org/st...
2015
It's the pesticides!
Mozilla is already doing it. Why should Microsoft be any different? They can't let the open source community out-evil them!
I just disable the service: MozillaMaintenance and hope for the best, while called maintenance it's mostly for updates which I don't appreciate being installed without notice. It's also my secondary browser and rarely used (Battlefield 3 requires it (Plugins)).
When Chrome slipped through while installing Google Earth, I also disabled it's maintenance service, before just removing it all together.
As for browsers updating, Opera 25+ is awful for this. There is no service to disable and it updates at will with no warning nor indication it's done so. I caught it by accident looking for the version of Opera (Help:about Opera) and it said it was in the process of updating; the only way you will know, outside of a new version number after the fact. I don't use Opera 25+, it just needs to be installed.
Opera 12 is my browser of choice, if it ever updates I'm screwed :}
My kids play with my original 1981 Speak and Spell ( and the Speak and Math one ) on a daily basis.
Almost bought one of those for myself, I was under the impression it would pronounce words input into it, it doesn't.
Something like...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N...
My first thought was a ball showing a river elevation but it's not electrically controlled.
So hit on any electrical devices powered by waves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W..., or Wind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W...
But would have to be post-apocalyptic, as after the oil runs out it's all going to be different. As off the wall as any electricity produced going to national security, Your T.V. ain't.
If: "Dear Charter Internet Customer:
Charter Communications ("Charter") has been notified by a copyright owner, or its authorized agent, that your Internet account may have been involved in the exchange of unauthorized copies of copyrighted material" = a strike. I have 8 against me for something you can view on youtube.
-Might be a dupe having a bit of a /. connection problem.
If: "Dear Charter Internet Customer:
Charter Communications ("Charter") has been notified by a copyright owner, or its authorized agent, that your Internet account may have been involved in the exchange of unauthorized copies of copyrighted material" = a strike. I have 8 against me for something you can view on youtube.
No, they won the computer wars because of the clones and low prices.
More appreciated was software you purchased three computers ago would still worked.
Up until 2010(?), the intel chips could still run 8086 code, just a few years ago (2010?) IBM nixed the backwardness of it's new chips.
NOTE: Packages that are compiled for i486 architecture, are compatible with i486, i586, i686 & i786 architectures. https://myonlineusb.wordpress....
486: "It represents a fourth generation of binary compatible CPUs since the original 8086 of 1978." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...