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Ask Slashdot: If You Were Building a New Home, What Cool New Tech Would You Put In?

An anonymous reader writes: I am starting the process of building a new home, and I would like to make the house as wired (or wireless) as possible. At this stage I can incorporate new tech in the design. What features do you have in your house that you just couldn't live without? What features are nice to have? What features do you want? In-home Fiber? Solar? Audio/Visual? Heating/Cooling?

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  1. My lawn by tom229 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some sort of new device to keep people off my lawn. It couldn't be run IOS, Android, have a unified touch interface, or be in "the cloud" though.

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    1. Re:My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will need one of those too, especially after the global warming protesters see the coal truck deliver the coal for my boiler.

    2. Re:My lawn by bkr1_2k · · Score: 1

      We call those shotguns. With bean bags or rock salt, of course. Wouldn't want to "hurt" anyone.

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    3. Re:My lawn by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do you mean something like this? How to stop cats pissing on your car, The best cat video ever!

      I'm pretty sure it could be scaled up for a complete lawn.

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    4. Re:My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    5. Re:My lawn by taiwanjohn · · Score: 5, Informative

      I would look at alternatives to having a "lawn" in the first place. In almost any climate, there are a lot more productive ways to use your land than raising an eternal crop of stuff you just cut and throw away. Put that surface area to work, harvesting solar energy in some way, even if it's nothing more than composting your grass clippings to feed a backyard garden.

      Also, look into "integrative" housing design, which means a more holistic approach based on first principles, rather than tweaking the status-quo with than latest gizmos. For example, if you spend enough on insulation, you might not need a heater in winter, and end up with a lower total capital cost. Or by including a water feature, combined with appropriate shading and ventilation, you could reduce your summer A/C bills by 90 percent, and thus save a bundle on the A/C capacity to install. There are lots of people preaching this sort of thing, but the most prominent voice among them is probably Amory Lovins of the Rocky Mountain Institute.

      As for your lawn look into permaculture. There's a ton of stuff on YouTube about this, and numerous blogs, groups, etc... Basically, you can set up your yard to be a "food forest" that naturally produces food, year round, at no cost and with very little maintenance. Checking out this trend will be very worth your time.

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    6. Re:My lawn by Rei · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Be careful with water. Don't get me wrong, I plan to incorporate water features into my house. But humidity has profoundly negative effects on many aspects of housing, from the walls to your furniture to your books and so forth, and a water feature with inadequate circulation is a good recipe for high humidity. In a bad case (as a plant nut I've had this happen), in a cold winter it can make its way through the ceiling and the insulation and freeze out on the roof, and then when it warms up melt back into your house.

      Water can be nice, but don't skimp on the ventilation! :)

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    7. Re:My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and while they don't run windows, ios, android or use the cloud, they do have a simple point-and-click interface.

    8. Re:My lawn by taiwanjohn · · Score: 1

      Checking out this trend will be very worth your time.

      Just to emphasize this point: With the amount of land you're talking about, you could easily feed a large family, in abundance, indefinitely, for free.

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    9. Re:My lawn by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      OT: I'd lay in a shitload of 3/4" conduit from room to room, and from a central closet/location to all rooms (in case I wanted to put in some sort of server). Terminate each with a blank wall-plate until/unless I needed one for something. That way I could always upgrade any wiring. The rest is simply fungible at this point.

      In almost any climate, there are a lot more productive ways to use your land than raising an eternal crop of stuff you just cut and throw away.

      Err, not really. Some of us have dogs (makes dealing with dog crap easier, and gives them an open area to play on). Others of us have kids (which are usually happy to have something relatively soft to play on). A few others of us use grass as actual pasture for small livestock such as goats and sheep (at least out in rural areas). And, as you pointed out, grass clippings make great compost.

      Agreed with the rest, though a funny thing: the house I live in was built in 1905, yet the porches are perfect for shading out summer sun but letting in winter sun... and unless you're a septuagenerian or older, the porches are the same age as the house - older than the two of us combined. It also has a central HVAC setup built in where the fireplace/chimney used to be, making heating and cooling highly efficient throughout the house. The only thing we really had to do was insulate the crap out of it, and replace a couple of old single-pane windows still in-place with triple-paned ones.

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    10. Re:My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a fence with a gate with an IP lock

    11. Re:My lawn by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      Hilarious!

      I wouldn't include any new tech in my home... the tech I'd include is like that system was. It doesn't exist yet and I'd have to create it myself.

    12. Re:My lawn by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      Water can be nice, but don't skimp on the ventilation! :)

      This - especially in Western Oregon, where doing that indoors without adequate ventilation is just begging to be plagued with black mold, dry rot, and worse.

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    13. Re: My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Conduit good idea.

      My 1980 place was prewired with 300 ohm twin lead and a phone grade wiring, totally useless now. Appears it's been clipped or stapled down in the walls, so I can't remove it, or use it to pull cat5 or rg6 etc.

      I'd suggest a centralized heatpump, and a more conventional heat source like a fireplace as a backup.

    14. Re:My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..point..shoot..execute!

    15. Re:My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cheetah cubs.

    16. Re:My lawn by ilsaloving · · Score: 3, Funny

      What about CompuServe integration?

    17. Re:My lawn by dj245 · · Score: 1

      Be careful with water. Don't get me wrong, I plan to incorporate water features into my house. But humidity has profoundly negative effects on many aspects of housing, from the walls to your furniture to your books and so forth, and a water feature with inadequate circulation is a good recipe for high humidity. In a bad case (as a plant nut I've had this happen), in a cold winter it can make its way through the ceiling and the insulation and freeze out on the roof, and then when it warms up melt back into your house.

      Water can be nice, but don't skimp on the ventilation! :)

      I'm 99% sure that the parent was referring to outdoor water features. Like fountains, waterfalls, and ponds.

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    18. Re:My lawn by luckymutt · · Score: 1

      God forbid we have open spaces.

    19. Re:My lawn by kqs · · Score: 1

      You may have a different idea of "free" than I do, unless you consider your labor free. In which case, I have some arable land...

    20. Re:My lawn by Yunzil · · Score: 1

      Basically, you can set up your yard to be a "food forest" that naturally produces food, year round, at no cost and with very little maintenance.

      OK, now try to sell this to your HOA.

    21. Re:My lawn by taiwanjohn · · Score: 1

      If you set it up right, it really takes very little input, a few hours a week to a few hours a day, depending on how intensive you want to get. If you just want to feed your family, a few hours a week. If you want to earn $50k per year per acre, it's more like a full time job.

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    22. Re:My lawn by RabidReindeer · · Score: 1

      Hey, those are cash crops in Florida!

    23. Re:My lawn by plopez · · Score: 1
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    24. Re:My lawn by taiwanjohn · · Score: 2

      There's nothing wrong with open space, and nothing in permaculture argues against it. Grasslands are ideal for grazing livestock of various kinds... anything from chickens to rabbits, cows to kangaroos... And with Managed Intensive Rotational Grazing (MIRG) you can use these open spaces to sequester carbon and create new topsoil.

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    25. Re:My lawn by suutar · · Score: 1

      see, that's the feature to build in - no HOA.

    26. Re:My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or, don't live an HOA. they should be illegal anyway.

    27. Re:My lawn by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Well done, sir. I award you one Intarwebz. May I also suggest an automatic cane shaker?

      Unfortunately, nobody else seemed to have gotten the joke.

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    28. Re:My lawn by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      There are some of us who choose not to live under failed tin pot dictators.

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    29. Re:My lawn by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      THIS ^^^

      Having pre run Conduit, with plenty of room for whatever wiring you want, to every room is indispensable. I've found that running multiple locations in the larger rooms is also very helpful. Make sure to leave Pull rope inside as well.

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    30. Re:My lawn by OhSoLaMeow · · Score: 1

      Do you mean something like this? How to stop cats pissing on your car, The best cat video ever!

      I'm pretty sure it could be scaled up for a complete lawn.

      I've had good luck with one of these.

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    31. Re:My lawn by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Judging by all the teenagers I've seen with their middle-aged parents at classic rock concerts in recent years, I think your supposition is probably incorrect.

    32. Re:My lawn by issicus · · Score: 1

      with the iLawn app you will now be alerted to any lawn based problems and now includes the iShout get the fuck off my lawn feature.

    33. Re:My lawn by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 2

      Having grown up on a farm where we raised approx. 90% of the vegetables, 50% of the fruit, and 25% of the meat we ate, it is a hell of a lot more than a few hours a week. Unless you are averaging in the winter months of no weeding. Harvesting season though is practically every spare hour picking, peeling, canning, stewing, freezing, jelling, etc. You don't can 15,000 quarts of food from just a few hours a week.

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    34. Re:My lawn by Yunzil · · Score: 1

      That's fine, unless you don't want to live out in the country somewhere. Then you're out of luck.

    35. Re:My lawn by jakimfett · · Score: 1

      Basically came here to say exactly this. Anyone who tries to tell you different is either relating secondhand info (Pinterest/Tumblr/Facebook/etc said it was easy so it must be true!) or is trying to sell you something.

      Raising your own food, in quantities sufficient to feed a family (assuming 4 or more people here) is *HARD* and takes quantities of time on a daily and weekly basis. As a software developer with a full time career job who also contributes to open source projects in my free time and does contract work on the side, my time tends to be in high demand.

      I have all the necessary skills...16 years growing up on the farm gave me a wide range of crop management and animal husbandry skills. But I choose not to, due to the time commitment and the degree to which it ties you down (eg, plants need daily watering/weeding, animals need fed morning and night, etc).

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    36. Re:My lawn by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Most shotguns have a fairly well designed interface at that. They are quite easy to learn.

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    37. Re:My lawn by TheUnknownCoder · · Score: 1

      THAT was really funny. Been a while since a youtube video brought me to tears for laughing so hard...

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    38. Re: My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you mean a fence? The interface is pretty intuitive.

    39. Re:My lawn by antdude · · Score: 1

      What about coyotes that like to visit and poop in the backyard. Argh!

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    40. Re:My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some sort of new device to keep people off my lawn.

      If I was building a house from the ground up I would be more interested in building in some kind of Faraday cage to keep illegal (if a cop doesn't come to the door with a warrant, it's illegal) surveillance to a minimum.

    41. Re:My lawn by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Live in an older neighborhood that pre-dates them.

    42. Re:My lawn by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I live a few miles outside a small town, one with a reputably famous Liberal Arts college in it. So it's 'the sticks' and I don't have to deal with HOAs or city ordinances, but I can ride to downtown in ten minutes on a bike. Also there are a lot of older neighborhoods in most towns and cities that don't have a HOA.

      You're only stuck with an HOA neighborhood if you want to live in a house made out of glueboard and formaldehyde.

    43. Re:My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever had a yard that was not grass? I have. 5-6 months out of the year when everything but the grass dies it is a slippery mud pit that you can't even walk on or across without falling. At least it is in northern Virginia that is mostly clay. Not every area of the US requires additional supplemental watering to maintain grass and some people have decent sized yards that they want to do things on, gravel and or mulch instead of grass is not a reasonable alternative.

      That being said, I do have a garden and I also have about 50 trees. I either mulch my grass or bag it and throw it in a pile to decompose. Same with my leaves. In the fall I just run them over with the mower and mulch them up in place. The first rain and they disappear into the ground just like the mulched grass.

    44. Re:My lawn by emag · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes, I've heard of these. Some kind of a salt weapon...

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    45. Re:My lawn by emag · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen your house, but I'm betting that you have different types of trees planted on different sides, too. Say, deciduous trees for eastern/southern sides, and probably evergreens to the north. The deciduous provide shade and heat protection in the summer, but lose their leaves to provide light and some warming from the sun in the winter months, while the evergreens protect from northern winds.

      Am I close? This used to be standard practice to help use Mother Nature for natural cooling/heating.

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    46. Re:My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Steps to acquire/build houses that don't have HOAs:
      1. Don't choose to live in a soulless suburban hellhole.

    47. Re: My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of surveillance would the cops be unable to do if you enclosed your house in a faraday cage? They'll still be able to monitor your cell phone calls, since you'll now have to go outside to make them.

    48. Re:My lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not having a lawn is the only way to go, even shotguns wont keep people off yer lawn... If those are not an option : i'd recommend huge 10 feet tall chrome (for the futuristic looks, otherwise the rusty model would suffice) spikes every square inch on your lawn.. )

      My opinion would be : (since a big part of the world doesn't have this )
      Running (drinkable) water
      bathrooms with real toilets and at least a shower....

      Before thinking about wireless-, iot-, drone-controlled-, ultra-designed-, super futuristic,- holodeck-enabled-, thingiemawatchawannanameits, think about making simple living conditions better for everyone....

    49. Re:My lawn by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Or you live in a neighborhood that around where I live was built before about 1990.

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    50. Re:My lawn by nullchar · · Score: 1

      How would an outdoor water feature reduce cooling costs inside your house?

      I imagined the OP was talking about a swamp cooler disguised as a something prettier.

    51. Re:My lawn by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      I believe you. On the other hand, an acquaintance of mine in his 60s has spent the last 30 years or so trying different foods made from plants that grow naturally without any sowing, tilling, weeding, etc... stuff in books like "Stalking the Wild Asparagus" ( http://www.amazon.com/Stalking... ). He's a vegetarian and he said he gets over 90% of the food he eats from mid-spring through mid-fall just by going for a walk through the wood by his house and picking edible items as he goes along. For the rest of the year he goes to the grocery store just like everyone else.

      Of course it's possible he's lying, or that the wild foods he eats are awful and he's just grown accustomed to the unpleasant tastes, smells, and textures.

    52. Re:My lawn by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      Eh, I don't have an HOA but I still live in a soulless suburban hellhole.

    53. Re:My lawn by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      For one person, who is used to the wild foods by his house, this is certainly possible. But as even he admits, it's for half the year only. A family of 6 (like mine when I was on the farm) would then need an area 12 times that size, with half the food being stored for the winter.

      And really, neither his story or mine would have been that unusual a century ago. If you didn't live in town, you raised or foraged whatever food you ate regularly. If you lived in town, you had a job that paid for food that others raised and foraged*. And we just passed the tipping point where more people live in town rather than on farms.

      *Fishermen may be the main exception to that statement, but only partially. They tend to live in town, and catch food, but then sell the food to buy other food, as well as other items.

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    54. Re: My lawn by OklahomaRed · · Score: 1

      Mote and Bailey with a draw-bridge should do th job.

    55. Re:My lawn by Yunzil · · Score: 1

      My neighborhood was built in 1986. Still have an HOA.

  2. HAL by Sleuth · · Score: 1

    I think you need HAL in a hidden room.

    1. Re:HAL by richy+freeway · · Score: 1

      Or a Bennett Hassleton in a hidden room. That no one knows about. Even you.

  3. Oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't be slashdot without someone suggesting a Beowulf cluster.

    1. Re:Oblig by grimmjeeper · · Score: 1

      But will it run Linux?

    2. Re:Oblig by azav · · Score: 1

      Check my sig then. Unchanged since the mid '90s.

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    3. Re:Oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not a wise idea, unless you want a repeat of the events depicted in 2001.

    4. Re:Oblig by Sleuth · · Score: 1

      2020, the next next space odyessy.

    5. Re:Oblig by Inzkeeper · · Score: 1

      Check my sig then. Unchanged since the mid '90s.
      - Zav - Imagine a Beowulf cluster of insensitive clods...

      Hmmm... It lacks a reference to Soviet Russia.

    6. Re:Oblig by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Natalie Portman?

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      No, Soviet Russia lacks a reference to IT.

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    8. Re:Oblig by Smauler · · Score: 1

      If I ever got free reign in building a house, I'd tessellate the rooms being octagons and squares.

      What, just me?

  4. Walls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I was building a new home I would install walls

    1. Re:Walls by envelope · · Score: 1

      I'd go the opposite direction and build a monolithic dome house with few or no internal walls.

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    2. Re:Walls by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      There is a house in my area that is almost completely under ground it has an above ground entrance that looks like a big concrete igloo and a concrete slab. I bet their heating and cooling bills are almost non-existent.

    3. Re:Walls by envelope · · Score: 1

      Yep. And their house will never be knocked down by a tornado or a hurricane - although flooding might cause them a problem.

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    4. Re:Walls by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      It's kansas so tornado is the most likely and as far as flooding it is at the top of a hill well above any flood plains. I have seriously considered not underground but a house built into a hill but I wasn't sure about erosion.

    5. Re:Walls by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      It's kansas... ...it is at the top of a hill

      Now I know you are lying.

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    6. Re:Walls by Diss+Champ · · Score: 1

      My parents bought a house at the top of a hill with the lower story mostly underground, and because the do-it-yourself builder didn't plan drainage properly still had water issues with heavy rain until reworking some things (which isn't easy after building). You need to be very careful with drainage.

    7. Re:Walls by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      Apparently you have never been to Kansas the eastern quarter of the state has the flint hills, Kansas City, the state capitol, state colleges, and the majority of the population, the other 3 quarters is flat, sparsely populated, and the most boring drive you will ever take just like in the movies.

    8. Re:Walls by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      It's a common practice in the area I live and I have heard both really good stuff and horror stories about erosion and poor landscaping causing water damage. I have a regular house on a hill and am needing a retaining wall because the neighbor recently changed their landscaping and now my garage floods.

    9. Re:Walls by Wintermute__ · · Score: 1

      Apparently you have never been to Kansas the eastern quarter of the state has the flint hills, Kansas City, the state capitol, state colleges, and the majority of the population, the other 3 quarters is flat, sparsely populated, and the most boring drive you will ever take just like in the movies.

      Try west Texas... Just sayin'

      (And yes, I've driven both, but you said "most boring" so there you go.)

    10. Re:Walls by KGIII · · Score: 1

      You fucking FOSS nuts will go to extremes to avoid having to install Windows. ;)

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    11. Re:Walls by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I would say west Texas is about the last place you would want to have car trouble.

      Last time I was in Texas I was going to six flags it was in the 80s and it was mid-july I think it was hot even for Texas that year and the tar on the roads was melted and sticky it ruined a pair of shoes and took forever to get off the car.

    12. Re:Walls by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      I was going for a funny, and yes I have been to Kansas and have family who live there, but when most people hear Kansas they think the western 3/4th.

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    13. Re:Walls by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I was driving to Denver once and I choose to go late at night to avoid the heat and any traffic. I ended up almost running out of gas in western kansas because although there were towns here and there none of them had gas stations open after 10PM.

  5. Future proofing by Iamthecheese · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We just don't know what the future holds. You may want to run fiber or a new wireless standard may make that moot. You may want to swap out your heating unit without much expense, or install a battery. I wouldn't focus on individual new technologies, but give the house an electrical and mechanical infrastructure that makes it easy and cheap to make changes. I would also install extra, easily accessed conduits for new cables or pipes of whatever kind.

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    1. Re:Future proofing by Rei · · Score: 3, Funny

      This.

      I'm in the early stages of building an underground steampunk cave home, and "futureproofing" is one of my design principles. I'm going with a very open floor plan, on the concept that it's easier for people to add in walls than to take out walls that were never designed to be removed (and may consequently be providing structural support). I'm not including any drywall; the exterior walls, a pozzolonic concrete, will be pressure-washed to remove the cement from the surface, exposing the aggregate. All piping / conduits will not only be visible, but shown off as part of the style (as is typical for steampunk). If someone wants to change something that they can't just feed into an existing conduit, they won't have to rip out the drywall, change what they want to change, reinstall the drywall, and then repaint. Plus, there can be no "critters" living in the crawlspace when there is no crawlspace.

      Even if I never want to change the house, I want it to significantly outlive me, and whatever future owners are around may want to change things. Plus, it's kind of fun when you keep future owners in mind. For example, I plan to paint a really creepy, gigantic (meters across) blood-red sigil underneath the flooring - an inverse of the ægishjálmur (protection against all evil), pointing inwards as if to trap evil in, with some runic writing along the lines of "All May Enter, None May Leave" (hopefully my Old Icelandic is passable :) ). I hope that whoever owns the house after me and decides to redo the flooring gets a kick out of that one. ;)

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    2. Re:Future proofing by Firethorn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Infrastructure wise, only what would differ from 'standard'. Also, assuming I'm not in a mansion, but still 'decent' sized house.

      Proper telecommunications closet. Should be fairly centrally located, but 'out of the way'. Remember to put venting/ac in here.
      It should have room for at least a small rack holding my patch panel(s), switch, router, and a server or two.
      Conduit to all the rooms, with at least 2 boxes per wall, even if I end up drywalling over most of them.
      Right now I'd pull cat6 cable and probably a bit of coax. I don't use cable other than internet, but who knows?
      The conduit makes repair/replacement 'easy'.
      Electrical plug-in spots at the top end of standard in number
      New idea - have a second run of conduit placed fairly high up. Suggested uses: Wall mount speakers, TVs, and such.
      Basement: Pour a secure vault as part of the foundation, get a good door. Good for storing guns, valuables, and as an emergency shelter.
      Shooting range: Length ultimately depends on budget and location, but a hallway that doubles as a 10 yard plus* firing range. Maybe even have it extend out from under the house, doubles as a secondary exit. Put the bullet trap on the far side, lock the distant end down *tight*. Probably even hook up a light & siren to that door opening. Safety first!
      Construction wise I'd want it to be mostly a 'passive house'. IE built such that it doesn't need extensive amounts of heating or cooling.
      Also, solar panels on new build is cheaper enough that there not real reason at this point to NOT have them. Depending on where the house is being built, a few solar thermal panels for hot water would be a good idea as well. Depending on region, there's even tricks with underground air circulation for cooling and/or heating as well. Geothermal heat pumps. Don't forget heat exchanger air vents - they save energy by conditioning the air while still giving you much better ventilation than a 'tight' modern home without one.

      I like swimming, so an indoor pool with automatic cover.

      Crazy wise - use one of those 3d concrete printers to make the walls, as they can 'print' the conduit basically right into the walls. Also, the concrete they use is surprisingly insulating and still serves as thermal mass to keep temperatures even.

      *IE don't bother if it'd be less than 10 yards/meters, but I'd prefer at least 20. It would start being silly at 100.

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    3. Re:Future proofing by njnnja · · Score: 4, Interesting

      All piping / conduits will not only be visible, but shown off as part of the style

      This is genius (assuming people get to like the style). It is such a pain to try to work on anything around the house when you have to guess where the conduits go, or fiddle with a plumbing trap through a one foot opening that can't even fit a slip wrench. Walls covered with pulverized rocks made a lot of sense when they were just there for privacy but now that the lifeblood of a house is running through them architects should figure out how to make the whole system more accessible.

      So to OP, even if you don't go this far, make sure that things can be worked on! Pipes leak and room configurations change and if you designed the house without flexibility for infrastructure then one day when you (or a professional) have to deal with an issue it will suck.

      As a side note, IANAL but whenever you sell you may need to disclose the fact that you are storing evil spirits in the floorboards.

    4. Re:Future proofing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also listen to your trades and consider what they say when they make a suggestion. Sometimes they are trying to pad their bill, but most will actually charge by the room and therefore their suggestions maybe to make their life easier and prevent rework if you change your mind. If they suggest more outlets, empty conduit chases to different closets, moving one for another, etc. I'd at least weigh the options rather than just saying yes or no.

    5. Re:Future proofing by rlwhite · · Score: 0

      A hallway that doubles as a shooting range? I can just imagine someone stepping out of a room off the hallway at the wrong time and getting shot. Please tell me this is a joke stuck in the middle of an otherwise-reasonable post.

    6. Re:Future proofing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Conduit to all the rooms, with at least 2 boxes per wall, even if I end up drywalling over most of them.

      Never drywall over boxes. Besides being against code, hidden boxes are one of the most frustrating things for the next person. The "where does this conduit go" game is bad enough when all the ends are accessible. Blank plates!

    7. Re:Future proofing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought about burying 50 yards of culvert out of the side of the basement to use as a shooting range / emergency evac tunnel.

      24" culvert was about $20/ft, 36" was $38/ft

      I figured a slight drop for drainage and a rail/cart system to position targets at desired differences. A vertical tie in a few feet from the end to climb out and then you would be shooting at the "dirt" wall. The opening to the basement would need a locking gate/door and come out in some sort of room with thick walls to dampen the sound, I was thinking filled concrete blocks then it could double as a storm shelter/panic room. I don't know if just insulating the basement ceiling would be enough sound suppression, that is the one major sticking point. The basement only has 8 foot ceilings so I don't have an excessive amount of height to work with. The kitchen is right above so there is about 16" of joists, 1.5" of plywood and a slate floor already there.

      I was looking at about $6k for the whole project, assuming I didn't find a really good deal on the culvert.

    8. Re:Future Proofing by mark6509 · · Score: 1

      Amen, I wish the geek who wired by current house back in the 90's with all the then-latest cabling had thought ahead to the day when CAT-5 would be obsolete, and used conduit or PVC pipe :(

    9. Re:Future proofing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm kind of a minimalist but I have to say that if I really had the cash and decided to indulge myself a bit I'd have an indoor range on my list. Second only to a 1.5 meter Ritchey–Chrétien.
       
      I know, I know... this is Slashdot and if you think anyone but cops deserve to have guns you're a moronic redneck racist... whatever.

    10. Re:Future proofing by cdrudge · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is genius (assuming people get to like the style). It is such a pain to try to work on anything around the house when you have to guess where the conduits go, or fiddle with a plumbing trap through a one foot opening that can't even fit a slip wrench. Walls covered with pulverized rocks made a lot of sense when they were just there for privacy but now that the lifeblood of a house is running through them architects should figure out how to make the whole system more accessible.

      Thanks for allowing me to remember how I felt before I got married and had my design decisions told to me.

    11. Re:Future proofing by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      A hallway that doubles as a shooting range? I can just imagine someone stepping out of a room off the hallway at the wrong time and getting shot. Please tell me this is a joke stuck in the middle of an otherwise-reasonable post.

      More that in my stream of thinking I failed to specify; thus you and I are picturing very different hallways. You're thinking of one on ground floor, most likely, with doors to things like bedrooms and bathrooms off of it.

      I was thinking of a hallway in the basement, with the door to the vault and maybe a storeroom or two. Something that you could trivially clear before you start shooting. Thus the 'extend out from under the house', where you'd have a storm entrance or something out in the back yard. Said entry would be alarmed, like I said, with a light & siren. Alarm any other doors while I'm at it.

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    12. Re:Future proofing by Goldenhawk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I built my current house in 1998. Having built a house in 1994 and in just a few years been geek-frustrated with it, I did some things right the second time, and they've stood the test of time, mostly.

      One, I set the entire house up as a star-configured system. No daisy-chained networks or wires. There's a central patch panel to which EVERYTHING runs. This makes debugging and tweaking far, far easier. I would absolutely do this again.

      Two, I ran far more of everything than I needed at the time. That hasn't eliminated issues, but it decreased them significantly. Two Cat 5 cables, two three-conductor speaker cables, and two RG-6QS cables to every room, period. I'd do this again, but with the latest (and anticipated coming) technology.

      Three, I built in an attic-to-crawlspace cable pipe. It turned out barely big enough for the four RG-6QS cables for two satellite dishes. Now with DirecTV's new combined LNBs, I'm back down to one cable and have plenty of spare room. Next time I'd put in a couple of 2" pipes instead of one 1" pipe; it would be no significant cost delta but add significant margin.

      Thinking ahead, even though I have been okay for 17 years, I am still somewhat limited on expansion. I have since built on two extra rooms, and it's nearly impossible to add them to the star-configured patch panel. I am not sure I would try to do comprehensive room-to-room cable piping, because it takes a TON of piping and a very large network room to pull it off properly. Space is money when you're building a house.

      What did I do WRONG?

      For one, not enough photos of infrastructure before putting up the insulation and drywall. I took a ton of photos, but nearly every time I've looked at them for answering a question, I found I had somehow missed the precise shot I needed.

      For another, too many places where messy infrastructure limited my options. Like cables and piping exactly where I found I wanted to add recessed lighting. I would be a lot more picky about directing the plumber and electrician where to run their stuff.

      Also, I would pay more attention during design to the HVAC setup. It takes up a lot of volume, and tends to interfere with flexibility later. So I would do a better job of pre-thinking where it would go, and leave more built-in space for it.

      Finally, I didn't give enough thought to house-to-street connectivity. It changes faster than my in-house systems. Every few years I have needed to have my yard dug up by the cable or telephone or electric or plumbing company. I wish there were a fairly large pipe running underneath my 150 foot driveway, through which all the necessary services could be routed and rearranged as necessary. Sort of a personal manhole thing.

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    13. Re:Future proofing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exterior shielding so people can't steal my wifi

    14. Re:Future proofing by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Thanks for your reply.

      No daisy-chaining: Very much so. I wasn't even thinking it was an option.
      More than you need: Oh yes. Though I think I'd concentrate more on having pull cables and bigger conduit than more wire where it's not immediately needed.

      I'll note that flexible conduit isn't that expensive, you can get 100' of 1" conduit for like $50.

      Making sure the electricians run the conduit along certain paths to avoid interfering with future projects like recessed lighting is good to know.

      With conduit, adding a new room to the closet shouldn't be too difficult. Pull up the insulation in the attic to the new area, lay the conduit of appropriate size, put the insulation back down.

      The pipe for under your driveway is an excellent idea. Might as well have a couple of them. Depending, a pipe running from your house to the road might also be a good idea.

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    15. Re:Future proofing by tigersha · · Score: 1

      >New idea - have a second run of conduit placed fairly high up. Suggested uses: Wall mount speakers, TVs, and such.

      This. My entire house is wired up with Cat6 but this is something I can kick myself about.
      It would have been rel useful for exactly that reason.

      Also, don't think "no, I will never need an ethernet connection in the roof". Put it in while you can. Trust me, you will regret it :(
      I want to put my Time Capsule there for security reasons. If someone breaks in I don't want my laptop AND my backup disk stolen.

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    16. Re:Future proofing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've looked at industrial installations of conduit that are boxed in with removable panels at juncture points. Good for basements, attics, utility rooms, linen presses. They can be fully incorporated into normal walls (corners or edges). False ceilings are another idea. Consider also removable kick boards in every room for future power point/digital access/landline point placement in the future. Rely on wired connections and some redundancy that could be fitted later. WiFi is your last resort.
      (modding)

    17. Re:Future proofing by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      The shooting-range hallway is a special, underground hallway that's only used as an emergency escape.

    18. Re:Future proofing by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Also, don't think "no, I will never need an ethernet connection in the roof". Put it in while you can. Trust me, you will regret it :(

      Useful for: PTP network sharing, having wifi access in your yard(if the leakage from your house isn't enough), depending on location can even be used pointing 'down' to provide wireless access more evenly throughout your house.

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    19. Re:Future proofing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have a plan for the dust and cobwebs on that piping?

    20. Re:Future proofing by BevanFindlay · · Score: 1

      Another option, if Steampunk isn't your thing (who?), would be false ceilings or false floors. A TV station building I know of has all the floors made with square sections that can be easily lifted out (I believe it's steel frame with legs in the corners), with a few hundred mm of space beneath. They obviously have more cabling requirements than most of us (100-cable looms etc), but I've always thought it was a useful idea. Many commercial buildings do the false ceiling thing. If you wanted to go the other temporal direction with your theme, you could do the removable wall panels typical of sci-fi corridors (although exposed ducting is common there too). Creative use of an architrave could give you a nice place to put cabling too (and is great for hiding LED rope for some really nice ambient lighting).

    21. Re:Future proofing by Xenna · · Score: 1

      Last summer I spent in a renovated Italian cottage. The owners had done the electricity in what I assume was the 'old' Italian way. Thick insulated wires (separates wires visible) ran from the switches over the wall with standoffs up to the beams of the roof where they connected to the hanging armatures. Looked pretty interesting.

      Looks like this kind of stuff:

      http://www.creative-cables.co....

    22. Re:Future proofing by RandomActOfKindness · · Score: 1

      > For one, not enough photos of infrastructure before putting up the insulation and drywall.

      We took photos of all our walls and ceilings pre-drywall when we built in 1999, and have referred to them so very many times in the years since. It's great not only to know where wiring is, but plumbing, studs, which way joists run, and more.
      Just do it.

      Like others have mentioned, we ran conduit from basement to top floor to enable easily changing wires. We pulled ethernet cables, speaker wire for in-wall speakers, 4-wire phone cable for an IR repeater system (maybe not as necessary now, but we still use it), TV cable, video cable...some of these to allow the AV components to reside in a different room from the television.
      In the years since, we've pulled lots more ethernet, speaker wire, HDMI, etc., often to locations to which we hadn't run conduit. And yeah, those photos were invaluable.

      Enjoy!

    23. Re:Future proofing by njnnja · · Score: 1

      Sounds like knob and tube wiring. I still have that (no longer hot) in the attic because, yeah, it looks cool.

    24. Re:Future proofing by Forgefather · · Score: 1

      On the topic of more than you need: basements. If you have the option of digging a basement always dig it deep. My parents had this issue in their house when they first built it. They dug the basement to only about 7 feet and because it didn't have a pump they never bothered with making it any larger. A few years later they decide to put in a pump and renovate the basement into a lounge area. Looks great but you bang your heads on the ceiling the entire time. (the extra drywall + carpet makes the margin even smaller). It would have cost peanuts to dig the basement to 10ft as opposed to 7ft and with the renovation would have added significantly more space to the area.

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    25. Re:Future proofing by Archwyrm · · Score: 1

      Believe me, it gets even worse if you marry an architect!

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    26. Re: Future proofing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You will be glad you have the cat5 to the roof when you start to add the POE IP camera to keep an eye on your yard. Maybe a home run to each corner of the building

  6. Triple Pane Windows and Closed Cell Foam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Triple Pane Windows and Closed Cell Foam insulation.

  7. An Icemaker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    About as cool as you can get. You walk up, push the button, and you get ice. No need to use a tablet or the IoT.

    1. Re:An Icemaker by aglider · · Score: 1

      A fridge is better. No need for an ice maker, no need for a tablet nor the IoT.
      You put your beverages in the fridge and won't get any washed soda any more.
      You just need what you already have and a little bit of planning.

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    2. Re:An Icemaker by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      The kind he's talking about is part of a refrigerator. And if you want a refrigerator, I can highly recommend the LG LFXS30766S - it is kind of insanely expensive (though timing your purchase can help with that), but it's also the only appliance that was specified in the contract when I sold that house. It's a lot nicer than the Sub-Zero I have now. The door-in-door feature is surprisingly useful (get drinks out of the fridge without opening the whole thing). About the only downside was that the ice storage capacity is limited, but there's an ice tray in the freezer - so let it make a full bin, empty that into the freezer, and repeat once or twice, and you'll have enough extra to handle guests, small parties, etc.

  8. First Post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First Post!

    1. Re:First Post! by aglider · · Score: 1

      Well, if you redefine well the concept of "one" and "first", then you are right. Or simply a moron.

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  9. Geothermal Heat Pump by Elder+Entropist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They aren't very cost effective for existing homes, but for new construction they can save you tons on money on heating and cooling, giving you up to a 5x multiplier for the energy you put in. All new construction should have them.

    1. Re: Geothermal Heat Pump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This would be #1 on my list, assuming it is a home I plan to live in for a considerable period of time.

      My second option would be to shield all electromagnetic waves from entering or leaving the main living spaces from all directions, especially up. With all of the new wireless tech, there's just no telling what the future may hold for criminal opportunity.

    2. Re:Geothermal Heat Pump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, they are great unless you have noise emanations from the system. The transmission of that noise through the ground can be a serious annoyance for your neighbors...and maybe you, too depending on the geology...

    3. Re:Geothermal Heat Pump by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Ditto solar PV on the roof, unless you live very very far north/south or don't have any suitable roof space. Cheaper to put it in now, guaranteed to pay for itself before the house's warranty expires.

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    4. Re:Geothermal Heat Pump by willworkforbeer · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wish these were easy to retrofit, they are a fantastic option. If I ever remodel my mom's basem... my studio apartment, I would like this option.

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      Pretending this is my office full of bitter coworkers..
    5. Re:Geothermal Heat Pump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use heat pumping for your refrigerator and water heater too. No appliance waste heat into the home unless you are trying to heat something, no spending $ to heat one thing and cool another.

    6. Re: Geothermal Heat Pump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a heat pump. It's open-loop and I hate it. Make sure you size the system properly and plan to spend $$$ on maintenance, including well maintenance.

    7. Re:Geothermal Heat Pump by sribe · · Score: 2

      They aren't very cost effective for existing homes, but for new construction they can save you tons on money on heating and cooling, giving you up to a 5x multiplier for the energy you put in. All new construction should have them.

      1) I've been looking into this recently, and there's something you may not be aware of. There are absolutely VAST differences in what you'd be charged for the same in-ground loop in different areas of the country. Note, there are legitimate big differences in how much the in-ground loop will cost based on your local geology. I'm not talking about that--I'm talking 3-5x differences in pricing for the SAME conditions and type of loop. As you can imagine, that greatly influences whether or not geothermal is a good financial move.

      2) Cost effectiveness varies for existing homes. 2.1) I suspect what you were thinking of is that ducting is often undersized wrt to what geothermal needs. (Lower output temps, need to move more air for same heating.) Indeed, if you have to redo your duct work, that's a huge additional expense. But hey, it's always worth checking, because some homes hav eoversized ducts to begin with. 2.2) If you have baseboard (or radiator) heating, you're screwed. You'll never get hot enough water out of a water-to-water geothermal heat pump, not even close. 2.3) But those water-to-water units work great for radiant-floor heat, so if you're already thinking about switching to radiant floors (exactly my situation) then providing your hot water from geothermal can be a great option.

      3) There are now some plain old air-to-air heat pumps that keep putting out heat down to -15F, so for areas where winter temps are mostly well above 0F, they can be a good option. Very efficient for 95% of your heating, and not so efficient but still working through a few very cold days.

    8. Re: Geothermal Heat Pump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have such a shield on my house... it's called steel siding...
      My cell phone doesn't work in the house, and my wifi doesn't work in the yard...

      Turns out living in a faraday cage isn't all it's cracked up to be.

    9. Re:Geothermal Heat Pump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There were reports that large scale geothermal energy generation causes earthquakes.

    10. Re: Geothermal Heat Pump by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      I used to have a heat pump. My fix was to add 4000' of altitude. Electric bills down by 90%!

    11. Re:Geothermal Heat Pump by holmstar · · Score: 1

      This is not anything like that sort of geothermal.

    12. Re: Geothermal Heat Pump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Easy-peezy:

      Get a femtocell for your cell phone indoor coverage. Get a remote access point for your outdoor WiFi isolated from the rest of the network.

    13. Re: Geothermal Heat Pump by sconeu · · Score: 1

      You built the world's tallest skyscraper to live in? Impressive!!!

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    14. Re:Geothermal Heat Pump by michaelepley · · Score: 1

      Not very cost effective for new construction either. I was recently quoted (from multiple contractors) in the vicinity of a $60K delta for a geo-sourced (not, geothermal is not the same thing) heat pump for ~4K sq ft against a standard heat pump and/or furnance+A/C setup. The ROI is extremely poor, given the capital is all up front and the savings are realized slowly over time. I didn't even bother calculating a break even point, since it would be almost certainly have been outside the expected service life of either system.

    15. Re:Geothermal Heat Pump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I got a quote in Delaware for $75k for a geothermal system for a 2k sq ft house. Normal high efficiency heat pump it is!

    16. Re:Geothermal Heat Pump by nwf · · Score: 1

      This is exactly what I found after getting a few quotes to replace my current system. And that's heating with propane, which is close in cost to literally burning cash for heat. Payback from propane to geo was 18+ years with a life expectancy of the unit of 20 years (after factoring in the tax rebate.) I am considering building a new and smaller house, and would get another quote, but I'd likely end up with a heat pump with propane. Natural gas is rather hard to get out where I live and/or would live.

      Affecting to the cost is how you do the ground loop. Where I live they'd have to drill wells, which is expensive. In other places you can just scrape off the top 10' of soil, run a loop horizontally, and cover it back up. This assumes you have a lot of land that will be grass, not trees with invasive roots.

      For a new house, I'd likely just super-insulate the place with an air-to-air heat exchanger to keep the air fresh. R-21 minimum or even higher for the walls, and R-60 or better for the ceiling. I'd then put sheeting over top that to keep dust down and allow for easy access and/or storage. I'm temped to have concrete exterior walls (or brick) for the thermal mass and noise reduction.

      I like poured 9' foundations for future basement finishing with a very good water proofing system.

      Solar would be nice, but a generator and transfer switch would likely be a must given the area's frequent storms. Some sort of UPS for critical electronic systems, too (alarm, security, phone. You can get older, larger commercial ones on eBay relatively cheaply. Batteries are expensive, though.) Definitely do a whole house surge suppression system. They are cheap and can save you lots of money later. You can almost never have too many circuit breaker spaces in your panels. I have two 200 amp panels and they are 3/4 full. Modern codes require dedicated circuits for many things, and I'd expand on that. A 15 amp breaker is dirty cheap.

      I have dual cat-6 runs to each bedroom and most other rooms, and I'd probably expand that to 3 or 4 in new construction. A coax run is useful (all home run.) Pre-wire for speakers in areas you'd want an entertainment system. Conduit is nice for the cat-6 / RG6 stuff. I'd run a 3" PVC pipe from the basement to the attic, but not on an outside wall. You never know what you'd want to run there. I'd also plan for PoE networking for surveillance cameras looking at all entrances, in the garage, and places like the family room and kitchen.

      Obvious things like very low-E windows, make sure you insulate the corners of the house (most builders don't!). I'd also write in the contract that I'd have the exterior assessed with an infra-red camera during winter for any heat leaks and require them to be fixed (within limits, of course.) One missed wall bay or something can seriously kill efficiency. My current house has a vent pipe in an exterior wall. That bay in the wall gets down to 45 degrees F in the winter! I'm guessing it's to provide air to the water heater, but I'd likely go tankless. Definitely nothing that uses air from inside the house for combustion.

      Music to the rooms and/or intercoms can be nice, depending on home size. I'd likely opt for something PoE for the intercom, if possible.

      Lots of exterior lights (don't forget switch outlets in the eaves if you like Christmas lights.) For lighting inside, LED strips are very neat (get high CRI ones.) Perhaps in hallways LED strips would be nice.

      Easy access to plumbing fixtures for future replacement and upgrades. (It's amazing that builders don't do that now.) For outside, a number of waterproof electrical outlet boxes (we never seem have one where we want one) and several water bibs so you don't have to run 200' of hose every time you want to water something.

      I'm sure there's more to be added...

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  10. Just GBE everywhere! by aglider · · Score: 5, Insightful

    WiFi is evil. Ethernet is good. GBE is far better.

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    1. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by aglider · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wherever you have GBE you can add WiFi or other pesky wireless tech.
      You cannot do the other way around, though.

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    2. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by decsnake · · Score: 5, Insightful

      abso-fing-lutely. Cat 6 everywhere. Drop at least one in every room, and put one in every wall in the room you plan to use as you main media room.

      The 2.4GHz band is totally congested and 5GHz doesn't go thru any kind of decent wall worth a shit. Leave wireless for mobile devices and wire everything that doesn't move. The idea that an 80" TV should be wireless is ridiculous.

    3. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There's combo cable available - 2x Cat6 + 2x Coax with or without Fiber

      I ran 14 drops of it (w/o Fiber) - 1 between the connect point at the front of the house to mech/panel room, 1 each between most rooms in the house (not bathrooms...) and mech/panel room, 2 to some of the larger rooms. I also ran smurf tubing between the connect point and the panel, the panel and my office room and the panel to the attic (for antenna usage) and across two rooms that could have TV setups (for speaker wire later...). All this runs land at a shallow wall mounted 20U rack with at 24 port unmanaged GB switch. My NAS sits on a shelf below.

      My contractor thought I was nuts - but it's just awesome. Well worth the cost + time (I did all the punchdown...).

    4. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by ByTor-2112 · · Score: 1

      You should run 4 cat6 (that's a nice round number) to every place you are going to run a cable outlet or phone jack. Many builders use cat5 for the phone system anyway; I rewired the phone lines in my last house to GBE and used intellijack PoE switches on the walls. Would have been easier to just run 2 or more drops to each. With 4 ports you can handle a "smart tv", media streamer, HTPC, and a spare for something else. Cat6 is cheap compared to your construction costs; just run it all inside a 2" PVC pipe.

    5. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by DigiShaman · · Score: 0

      I get that cable is cheap in comparison to the labor; especially when looking at a future install when the house is already built. But honestly, 4 runs of cable per room isn't needed. I could be talked into 2 perhaps; one for a PC/Laptop (desk use) and the other for an multimedia device such as a TV, AppleTV box, or game console. If you need more than that in a room, just get a five-port switch. Again, this would be the exception and not the rule for all. Now the family room where all the gathering takes place, sure. 4 runs for the multi-media area, and another jack for a family PC.

      If we truly believe that the future will be an "Internet of Things" all ran via IPv6, then less be honest, 4 runs per room isn't going to be nearly enough unless they're WiFi enabled devices. In which case, start planning a few ceiling drops where PoE Access Points will be mounted. I highly recommend UniFi APs by Ubiquity; two of them can easily cover 2,000 sq.ft with plenty of overlap coverage assurance.

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    6. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drop two in every room. One can be used for the phone line and one for the computer line.

    7. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, not Cat6. Gigabit Ethernet only needs Cat5e, which is thinner, satisfied with smaller bend-radius, generally less painful to connect correctly (Cat6 has individually shielded pairs) and dirt cheap. You are better off with two Cat5e cables where you would put one Cat6 cable, both money and space-wise.

      If you want to future-proof, still don't put Cat6. Put Cat7, or even better, conduit. By the time you need 10Gb Ethernet in your lavatory, you will hopefully find copper wiring a braindead solution and choose fiber instead (pun not intended).

    8. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Smart TVs using WiFi have the microwave as an enemy.

    9. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Two are immediately occupied in each room: one by the "wireless bridge" (Wifi router, Zigbee gateway, whatever) and the other by the "computer" (PC, streaming client, TV, game console, etc.). If you need just one more of either category in a room, you're already out of cable drops. A switch is another box that needs space and permanently consumes power, and Ethernet is not particularly low power. Maybe you want the home automation stuff on a separate LAN? Now you need managed switches in all rooms. Cable is cheap. Put four.

    10. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My newly built apartment unit in the SF Bay Area is "wired" in every room. Up to four sockets. It's so good...

      My suggestion to the submitter is to plan very well where the TV is gonna go. You can hang it on the wall (which requires some degree of planning where to put the beams) and have power and ethernet right there behind it.

      Why? Aside from the obvious, the "cord-cutting" trend (which I jumped on years ago) works better when the TV is connected to the internet in the fasted possible way. As it is, the only way to watch 4K TV that I am aware of is to stream to it.

      Despite my home being fully wired, most devices use WIFI. But TV and phone should be wired.

      Plus if you want to have intelligent home gadgets, it might be good to plan them ahead of time and put power and ethernet close to their likely location.

    11. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One more thing I forgot. One thing you don't need is the old phone sockets. Just replace with Ethernet and use VOIP. So much better and cheaper (although sometimes a little less reliable).

      Just make sure to setup e911 on the home VOIP phone.

    12. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Two are immediately occupied in each room: one by the "wireless bridge" (Wifi router, Zigbee gateway

      Wait..what??! Dear God no! Please tell me you're not NATing your primary network into different networks for each room. That's a very bad idea, especially when you're in a home network environment with shared multi-media resources such as music and movies.

      You only have one gateway/router device in the home. It, in addition to your ISP modem, would be located in the same room as to where your CAT6 patch panel (where all the cables converge in one area) would be. Newer homes actually have cable distribution panel built into the wall of someone's closet. During the build out, fiber or coax would also be ran to it for the ISP equipment. Do keep in mind that 16 port switches and above can get to 1U rack mount form-factor sizes; so plan on the size of the distribution panel in advance or else that will be mounted on a ply baseboard like some telco closet (unsightly IMHO).

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    13. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by guruevi · · Score: 1

      You should run wiring conduits and make sure they're accessible at cross points. Within 20 years you'll want to install fiber or cat9 cabling.

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    14. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Etcetera · · Score: 1

      One more thing I forgot. One thing you don't need is the old phone sockets. Just replace with Ethernet and use VOIP. So much better and cheaper (although sometimes a little less reliable).

      Just make sure to setup e911 on the home VOIP phone.

      Why? RJ-11 provides a small power drop without the need for expensive electronics with a PoE solution. You could probably make all the components you need to power the wire with random gear you'd find in someone's garage.

      I certainly wouldn't advise *only* having that, but there's something to be said for a trickle power option powered by the local CO (even leaving aside all the other reasons a land line is still good).

      My advice? Do everything. Put so many conduits in your house that it looks like a giant Habitrail, ensuring you have both star, bus, and per-floor-isolated topologies. Use smart or breakout outlets at first, but keep your options open.

      Depending on your budget, fiber should be considered (and definitely at least accounted for in turning radius/pinch point design).

      Every room should have at least two distinct Ethernet drops, and one drop near the ceiling. Anything resembling a media room or bedroom should get an HDMI pull and RJ-11. Anything else being "hard wired" in (smoke detectors and whatnot) should be seen as an opportunity for another set of ports.

    15. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Even if (for some reason) you want actual plain-old telephone service, you should still install home-run ethernet instead of cat-3 phone cable because cat-5 (or better) 8-conductor cable can carry two lines of POTS signals anyway. Terminate half the wires to one jack and half to the other. Then when you want to use it for data, all you have to do is re-terminate instead of re-running the cable.

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    16. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      Uses for cat6 in the media room:
      1 - Smart TV
      2 - Receiver
      3 - Bluray Player
      4 - Video game system
      5 - AppleTV
      6 - Media Computer

      Frankly, I'm putting 4 next to my media room in the basement right now. (There's no way in hell I'm attaching my TV to the internet. Ditto for the bluray player, if I were to even own one of those. The receiver will be on the local network but firewalled from the internet.)

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    17. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      If you are running so much cat6 to every room, what kind of switching/back plane do you use/recommend?

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    18. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Zmobie · · Score: 1

      I've been working on the cat6 upgrade in my house for a bit now and I found three to be a good number for almost all rooms (a few varied from that). One for a main PC, one for TV (lots of providers have boxes with ethernet jacks in them), and one to allow for a small unmanaged switch to use if the room needs more expansion. My logic was basically only two devices really could use full gigabit speeds (even then the TV could be done with a lot less if you have a router that can handle the traffic correctly), the rest should easily be able to exist with ~100 mbps if the switch is filled (I have a bunch of eight ports I got for free). Even if more bandwidth is needed, the switch/router is the limiting factor in speeds since I kept all the runs within proper limits for 10 gbps speeds and consumer won't have/need/want those for a while.

      Few of the rooms I ran extra, such as centrally there will be APs for wireless only devices and guests, but three is pretty much the smartest number I came up with. Plus with three wires you can comfortably drop them through a 3/4'' hole (9/16'' if you REALLY want to tug) so that you minimize how big a hole you put in structural supports. The firebreaks made it a pain for me, but a $35 drill bit from Home Depot fixed that and keeps it in code technically I think (although firebreaks are not required where I live, mine are just nice fluff from the original home builder).

    19. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't. Did you get that from "Wifi router"? You can use Wifi routers as access points: Just plug the uplink into one of the LAN ports. Routers are often better supported and more flexible than dedicated access points (lots more choice if you want OpenWRT, for example, and why wouldn't you want OpenWRT?) My point is that the low power home automation networks as well as high bandwidth wireless LANs essentially need one network port per room, and the computer-like device that almost every room has needs another, so two per room is almost certainly not going to be enough and require active network components in many rooms. Blinkenlights all over the house have very poor WAF, and every active component is going to cost more in investment and upkeep than the cable runs it "replaces". If you need additional justification for four instead of two cables per room, run two each to opposite sides of the room.

      Also, Cat5e is good enough for GigE and it's thinner, more flexible and cheaper than Cat6. If worrying about not being sufficiently future-proof without Cat6 robs you of your good night's sleep, put one Cat7 and three Cat5e in each room. You'll never need the Cat7 though.

    20. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Zmobie · · Score: 2

      Cat7 is not considered a true standard yet as TIA does not recognize it. Not only that it is extremely expensive for only a minimal upgrade from Cat6A (which is a huge pain to work with, I have some of it). Very few homes would need 100m run of cable that needs to run at 10 gbps and Cat7 anything is REALLY expensive (so is Cat6A to be fair). Many standard pieces are also not made to support wiring that thick, I have enough issues trying to crimp a Cat6A cable (with connectors that are rated for 6A even...). No reason to use Cat7 especially when it is difficult to ensure it is actually following that "standard." Now the conduit access is a good idea so you can run extra cables or later on replace them, but no need to run anything more than standard Cat6 imho.

    21. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      As the person above me mentions, conduits are future proofing. I would add though, it should be Cat7 STP, not Cat6, and Multimode fiber. This is the most advanced stuff, so it should last a good while before being outdated, in which case you then pull it out and run new cable.

      http://www.balticnetworks.com/...

      The fiber doesn't even need to be terminated as most likely it won't be used (for now) as even 10Gbit runs over copper without issue.

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    22. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beware that drilling 2" holes in studs requires that you double them, so your construction costs are going to be higher.

      I would probably run two 1-3/8"conduits to each drop, leaving a fish line in each one to pull more cables in the future. The 2nd conduit is left empty because it is much easier to pull new cables in an empty conduit. That's what I do on commercial installations of low voltage wiring, and I'd do it in any new home construction.

    23. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      (Cat6 has individually shielded pairs)

      What crack are you smoking? Even Cat 7 doesn't individually shield the pairs, and Cat 6 isn't even shielded, that is STP, not UTP.

      http://www.balticnetworks.com/...

      Great picture of the Cat 7 cable unwound on the ad.

      Gigabit Ethernet only needs Cat5e

      This is bad advise, Gigabit is ok now, but in 20 years? 40 years? Houses last a long time, so putting in the best available now will prevent upgrades later.

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    24. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That kinda was my point, but I wonder why you still want Cat6 in the end. There is no use for anything beyond Cat5e right now and in the foreseeable future. 10GigE is pushing copper to its limits: The interface cards are hideously expensive, switches even more so. No consumer devices have 10GigE ports or will have them (there is no need for those speeds on a residential network). It is exceedingly difficult to install Cat6 and beyond correctly, i.e. such that it actually satisfies the requirements of 10GigE. You need expensive measuring equipment to check. Nothing at all like punching down Cat5e. If you have an actual need for something better than Cat5e, then Cat7 is probably right for you, as it has a little more headroom. You can terminate it like Cat6 if you have no pressing need for actual Cat7 now, but still want the cable in the walls to be "future-proof". It's as stupid a choice as Cat6 for almost everybody though.

    25. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's not bad advice. Telling people to put in the best available with no regard for actual use cases is bad advice. Look, in the 90s, every office got Cat5e cabling, and every network standard that has since been developed and actually used in that environment was specifically designed to make do with Cat5e cables. There was a GigE standard which used only two pairs of wires (same as 100BASE-TX) and was simpler to build chips for, but it required Cat6 cables. Never seen it? Of course you haven't, because everybody realized that nobody would rewire, so that standard was DOA. Now consider the home networking situation: Most people have no wired networking in their homes. Nothing which requires faster networks than you can deliver wirelessly through a wall will come to market. That means GigE is the end of the line for home networks. And that only needs Cat5e.

    26. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Also HDMI extenders and matrix extenders. Haven't priced fiber matrix extenders, but anywhere you might want artwork or a TV, give at least two Cat6. An always use it just as a power source for lighting...

      Another comment-- healthy service loops at the top of each drop or where you go from j-hooks/cable tray into conduit. Makes re-purposely the cables much easier.

    27. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I bought a 50 inch TV last year, and it actually took a fair amount of searching to find one with wired Ethernet. Very few TVs had that feature. Then I had to cut the TVs that had fewer than 3 (2 or less) HDMI ports on them. That cut down my options even further. I guess some people have a receiver with HDMI, so you don't need many directly on the TV, but the whole idea of having only 2 HDMI ports on a TV is ridiculous. The one I chose only had a single combined Composite/Component input, where the green wire is used for the Composite video input if you put the TV in that mode. I still have a few old devices that don't have HDMI that I want to use with my new TV. So I have to have an external switch box to operate those devices. It's kind of sad how limited the newer TVs are in certain areas. All these smart TV features and apps, but we can't get a decent set of wiring going to them.

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    28. Re: Just GBE everywhere! by trippin_efnet · · Score: 1

      Im sorry but, no. Just no. I dont mean to come across as rude but that advice is just madness. In new construction do not put cat5e lol. Cat6 is not any more difficult to work with than cat5e. Particularly with new construction cat6 is the absolute minimum anyone should run. He/she will likely already have an electrician running it through conduit anyway. Cat5e? wtf.. I just ran 43 jacks in my house, guest house, and two out buildings in cat6a (Chose 6a due to some of the runs being further than the 55 meter limitation on 10G) and once the electrician had them snaked through the walls, a friend and i were able to get all keystone jacks and patch panels punched down in a couple of casual pizza and beer nights, and it was our first time doing it. Every single jack works and the network has been solid as a rock. If your walls are already open, spend the lousy few hundred dollars and get at least cat6, at least. By far the most expensive cost, labor, will stay close to the same. 10gigabit is closer than you think. Particularly if 4k video comes along. Do it right when the walls are open and feel the sweet relief of knowing you wont have to open them up anytime in the near future.

    29. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by threephaseboy · · Score: 1

      No, not Cat6. Gigabit Ethernet only needs Cat5e

      802.3ab specifies operation at 1000Mbps up to 100 meters over UTP with CAT5 as the minimum, not CAT5e. For a particular installation you may have other needs, but the standard doesn't require anything above CAT5.

      You shouldn't be putting in either for a new installation though.

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    30. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Phone Jack? He said he's building a house, not a museum.

    31. Re: Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      10gigabit is closer than you think. Particularly if 4k video comes along.

      No, it's not, and 4k video is certainly not going to change that, for simple economic reasons: Wired networks are getting less common, not more common. I've tried talking people into running at least one network cable into each room while renovating, but they saw it as a useless expense, because "wireless". There is no market for residential technology which requires 10GigE because those networks don't exist and aren't easily retrofitted. 4K video only needs about twice the bandwidth of fullHD video, and that hardly needs GigE in the first place. 10GigE is almost exclusively a data center technology and that's where it will stay. Sure, you can buy the equipment now, and if you want to geek out, do it. There still isn't going to be a mass-marketable application for it.

      feel the sweet relief of knowing you wont have to open them up anytime in the near future

      That delusion is practically all that Cat6 is good for. If there really will be something that needs more than GigE to work smoothly, then it will be made to work wirelessly or use fiber. Either way, Cat6 will do you no good. I know that people are looking at the prices for Cat5e and Cat6 and think, "hey, a few bucks more won't break the bank", but a few bucks for no additional value is still wasted money. Cat5e will perform exactly the same for everything those cables are ever going to get used for. But don't worry, nobody is going to listen to this. The fear of not being "future-proof" when it only costs "a few bucks more" now to be is so strong that everybody will get Cat6. That stuff practically sells itself.

    32. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

      Fiber of any kind is a waste of money unless you already know what you're going to terminate it with at both ends. Fiber might be "future-proof" in the sense that someone, someday, will make converter boxes to let you use older fiber for new purposes... but I can guarantee that any such conversion box will end up costing WAY more than you'd have likely spent just buying a spool of new fiber and pulling it through a conduit. That's why conduit is so great. You don't HAVE to try and guess an unpredictable future, and spend eternity putting band-aids on your mistakes from 20 years ago. Put in conduit, and you can pull whatever you need, when you eventually need it.

    33. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Buy a TV big enough so that you can't mistakenly put it into the microwave.

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    34. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked on a renovated house which had single cat5 cabling installed for every room. All cables came up to a 20 port patch panel on the top shelf of an inbuilt wardrobe. It also had a few line amps for FTA TV. Unfortunately all cabling was terminated as landline ph connectors in every room AND the installer did not leave a wiring diagram/map of which cable went where! So label everything. Everything went into a 10 port router which was enough for this install.
      I have single cat6 everywhere and I use local switches if I need to connect more than 1 device. Switches need power btw. Single cat6 can handle a lot of network.

    35. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I've never seen a (home) router with more than 4 ports. The ones with more ports have been switches.

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    36. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Smart TVs are the enemy of everything. Why can't I just have a dumb 80" monitor with no extra "features"?

    37. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      You do realize that multimode fiber is good past 40Gbit right? This is what is used to run high speed connections, no modifications needed. Why would you rerun the fiber at all when all you need to do is upgrade the transceivers?

      I agreed with putting in conduits, I am also suggesting things to put into those conduits which ARE future proof. Multimode fiber is the high bandwidth stuff. Single mode fiber is the long range stuff. Multimode is good for a very long time, and would not be a mistake. The cat 7 might need to be replaced in the future, but unlikely the fiber would ever have to be replaced.

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    38. Re:Just GBE everywhere! by Zmobie · · Score: 1

      Standard Cat6 is not that much more expensive than Cat5e and has the extra headroom for go up to 10 gbps later on (I'm thinking like 30+ years ahead type of thing). While Cat6A or 'Cat7' would be literally triple the cost for the same amount (I'm not kidding at all I was able to get 1000 feet for about $150 and my buddy who gets pricing through AT&T gets Cat6A at $450 for 1000 feet). Your standard household probably doesn't have a need for over 1, but considering MY network is actually being designed for in home media streaming, VPNing and a development network on the side etc., yes I actually can utilize 10 in the future if it becomes standard.

      That said, its hard to predict what the future may hold even for a standard consumer need in a standard household, and for a minimal cost increase on Cat6, I would just go ahead and use it. The installation isn't that difficult (punch down and crimp on Cat6 certified RJ45 plugs and connectors is really quick, no different than Cat5e to Cat5e connectors) and you are covered in case a need does arise later. Achieving the proper distance for full speeds isn't really that hard either, very few homes are going to have 150 to 200+ feet runs where you would actually lose speed if conditions are not right. Even in my long ass house I only have one run that goes over 150, and its only by 15 feet.

    39. Re: Just GBE everywhere! by trippin_efnet · · Score: 1

      Lol you sound like the guys who five years ago were saying no home would need gigabit speeds. "Your 10/100 fast ethernet is more than any home network will ever need!"

      As more people drop cable television in favor of streaming: every TV, computer, phone, game system, etc.. will be using the network at the same time. Wireless may never be able to keep up with the reliability and stability ethernet offers and the bandwidth we're going to be using soon. The 2.4ghz spectrum is already overloaded, the 5ghz spectrum will soon be just as overloaded. Sure 5ghz can in theory do a gigabit --though we know it is nowhere near that in the real world -- but the range is atrocious compared to the lower frequencies. Imagine a house in a busy neighborhood with 20 houses trying to share the same spectrum, one of the houses has 4 screens streaming 4k, little Becky is Skyping with her boyfriend, little Johnny streams his favorite Twitch broadcaster while streaming his own gameplay at the same time. Wireless? lol.

      MoCA networking is taking off because people are sick of wireless and they aren't willing to pay the costs to upgrade the cabling inside their walls. New construction in developments are dropping cat6 in every room.

      Intel is promising 10gig ethernet cards for less than $100 soon, you can already pick them up for about $150.

      I'm not saying it is happening tomorrow, if I had to guess, I'd say 3-5 years and it'll be as common as gigabit is now.

      You can say the cost isn't worth it, but, if you're building $100,000 house, your walls are open, and its an extra $100 to run cat6, the choice is obvious. And you can call it a delusion, but, people said the same thing about going to ISDN, then DSL, then cable internet, they're saying it now about going with google fiber. Personally, to expect anything other than speeds to increase is delusional.

      Do you realize how silly it sounds to say "10GigE is almost exclusively data center...and that's where it will stay." You sound like a crazy person.

  11. Conduit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So you can run other stuff later.

    1. Re:Conduit by grimmjeeper · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Absolutely this. Run all your phone/network/TV cable wires in conduit and have a few extra runs. If you ever want to pull anything out and replace it, having conduit in place will make it much easier.

    2. Re:Conduit by supercrisp · · Score: 1

      Oh to have mod points! Yes, yes, big fat conduit with nice slow bends. And "blind" wall plates just waiting for use. Future-proof it.

    3. Re:Conduit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was coming to say the same thing.

      I bought a foreclosure and took it down to the studs in a major renovation. Every wall has smooth-as-silk 3/4" PVC conduit straight up into the attic, with longer walls or logical locations having multiples. After all the utilities and conduit were in place, I insulated with closed-cell urethane spray-in foam, which is wonderful stuff but *terrible* to try to fish cable through. With conduit, I'll never need to.

    4. Re:Conduit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Even though you can use a shopvac to suck a conduit string through later, it is nice to leave 2 conduit pull strings with the ends tied off in each run of conduit

    5. Re:Conduit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put PVC pipe in when we remodeled the kitchen. I pops out under the cabinets. Wish I had this for the rest of the house since the Cat5 and cable need to be replaced.

    6. Re:Conduit by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Also, conduit in the TV room for rear and front wall mounted speakers, the TV to receiver/DVD/Game systems (hidden?) and the network drops for everything.

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    7. Re:Conduit by Dastardly · · Score: 1

      Run wire to every room might also be reasonable, as well, but terminate at a blank wall plate. 2 Cat5E + 2 RG6 coax can run around .30/ft depending on where you get it. There are even bundles which seem to cost more than separate. But, at that price depending on the distance of the run, the wall plate and connectors can be 30-50% of the cost of the run. So, run the cable from a closet to a blank plate and only put connectors on the plates that are actually used.

    8. Re:Conduit by KGIII · · Score: 1

      If I could do it all again I would do a small raceway and dual voltage BUS lines EVERYWHERE. I have passive solar (envelope salt-box) with solar panels and solar thermal. I would have done a heat sync but I am already into ledge that had to be blasted. I would have done a geodesic dome but, alas, I could not make it do what I wanted reasonably and being unreasonable was possible it was not worth the effort.

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  12. Retractable Outlets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd like the outlets in my home to be retractable, similar to the way some vacuum cords work. Click a button to unlock it, and then pull it out of the wall for ~30 feet. Press another button to retract the cord back into the wall.

    1. Re:Retractable Outlets by Rei · · Score: 1

      I saw a somewhat related concept that was sort of cool for the kitchen where there were large drawers with outlets. The concept was that instead of having to choose between too many appliances on the countertops, or having to get out and plug in your appliances on the countertop everytime you want to use them, you could just leave your appliances plugged in and pull them out just by opening the drawer, all ready to use.

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    2. Re:Retractable Outlets by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the Legrand Adorne series would be to your liking?

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  13. Ethernet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Can't believe this isn't standard equipment in new homes yet. WIFI is shit.

    Had my place wired in 2005 with 5e. I take it for granted there is 1Gbps in every room. Now I'm moving and the 9 year old house has nothing but fucking phone wiring and coax like it's 1975 or something.

    1. Re:Ethernet by meustrus · · Score: 2

      Considerable new construction in the early 2000's had ethernet in every room. Then Wi-Fi got better and they stopped doing it. How obnoxious.

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    2. Re:Ethernet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did that around 2002 or so, but I made long cable-tied bundles of six cat 5e and one RJ-6 to pull up the walls through the attic. (single-story slab foundation house) That happens to just fit perfectly in a one-inch hole. Nine of the bundles go to a central closet, which of course fits in a three-inch hole. I still need to make a nice 4U rack in a sheetrock soffit up at the top of the closet to tidy it all up for when I sell the house.

      And for all those people saying "conduit", you really don't need conduit for low-voltage cabling.

  14. A Murphy bed in the office by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A bed when I want it.

  15. My vote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Window mounted 50cal machine guns.

    1. Re:My vote by Rei · · Score: 1

      You'll eventually run out of ammo. If you really want to zombie-proof your house you need automatic steel shutters.

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  16. Conduit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Conduit, lots of the largest conduit you can get.

  17. Energy Conservation by ClayDowling · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Fiberglass windows, geothermal heat, a good in home battery like the new Tesla product, wind and solar power generation, and wicked good insulation. Ideally something like the blow cellulose or cotton fiber, but even just a thicker layer of fiberglass, so that my heating and cooling needs are few. LED lighting throughout. Tankless water heaters. Natural gas for heating, cooking, water heater and dryer.

    Drought tolerant landscaping. Because even though I live in a water rich region, I hate having to pay to water my lawn (city water, no options) just for the priviledge of cutting it later. Nuts to that deal.

    1. Re:Energy Conservation by thermopile · · Score: 1
      Phase change drywall. Like this stuff, called "ThermalCore" from National Gypsum:

      http://www.technologyreview.co...

      I don't know why it hasn't been commercialized yet (they've been stewing on it for years, and some places in Europe already have it), but it sure seems like a good way to make use of the latent heat of wax.

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    2. Re:Energy Conservation by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      Why Natural Gas for heating? That's what Geothermal is for. You can cool and heat with Geothermal. Maybe natural gas as a backup but I would think electrical backup is good enough for the few times it may be required.

      1. If you go geothermal you have to use an air system which means you should get a zone control. There are affordable solutions that provide up to 8 T-Stats with individual room control. It will only heat/cool areas that need it. It's nice because it provides a more comfortable living environment.

      2. Sprinkler system for your lawn. I don't water my lawn often but if I did I would want it to be with a sprinkler system

      3. Make the floors IRobot friendly. If you want to keep your house clean with little to no work make sure the house is IRobot friendly and buy one per floor

      4. Insulate to northern country specifications. I believe Quebec has very good insulation regulations.

    3. Re:Energy Conservation by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      Phase change drywall. Like this stuff, called "ThermalCore" from National Gypsum:

      http://www.technologyreview.co...

      I don't know why it hasn't been commercialized yet (they've been stewing on it for years, and some places in Europe already have it), but it sure seems like a good way to make use of the latent heat of wax.

      I believe it isn't approved in the US over concerns with fire safety. Something about lining your walls with hydrocarbons doesn't sit well with some people...

      They probably just have to do some demonstrations that prove it isn't more flammable than traditional drywall.

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    4. Re: Energy Conservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have natural gas already, for cooking or hot water, you want that as the backup to the geothermal, not electric. You might never use it, but if you do, it will work much better.

      you don't have to heat air with geothermal heat, you can use hot water for radiators and heated floor systems.

    5. Re:Energy Conservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mmm Fiberglass, today's version of asbestos, yummy

    6. Re:Energy Conservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd consider taking a look at advanced framing. If your builder already knows how to do it, you could end up saving money. Additionally, because the insulation will be two inches deeper, you should save even more on your heating and cooling costs.

    7. Re:Energy Conservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geothermal can transfer to hot water for radiant heating. But if you want a/c, be it for cooling or dehumidification (50% of why I run mine), then you need the duct work anyway. The other thing about radiant is that if you put it under a wood floor, you have to turn the temperature of the loop water down from 180F to 140F, and this does limit the amount of heat the system can provide. In a cold climate with high ceilings or very small usable floor area, you may not get enough heat out of the radiant under a wood floor.

      Electric backup on the geothermal is a MASSIVE resistance coil in the air handler, just like the old heat pumps. No-no, unless to like to watch the electric meter spin. Gas, be it natural gas or LP, is a much better option, and if you suffer a power outage during cold weather can more easily be fed from a standby generator than that resistance coil. In reality, a regular old domestic hot water heater with a good-sized tank works quite well as a backup, and you can only fire it up when the geothermal is down (or can't keep up).

      If possible use some sort of rigid foam insulation, rather than batts or loose fill. It can be on-site foam-in-place or panels, but your results will be much better. No matter how good the loose stuff is, not to mention the pill-addicted hung over installers, there is still infiltration (take apart a 20 year old wall with fiberglass insulation and look at all the dirt where it has filtered the air moving through it).

    8. Re:Energy Conservation by ClayDowling · · Score: 1

      That's a cool material, but it looks like there might not be a great financial incentive to use it. It takes five years to recoup the cost at German energy prices. With American prices, which are quite low in most places, it will take significantly longer. I'd probably get a better payoff from my insulation. It's cool technology though, and I hope the prices drop to the point where it makes sense here.

    9. Re:Energy Conservation by ClayDowling · · Score: 1

      There's a product that's a wet installed cellulose or cotton fiber, I don't remember which. It applies like the spray foam, but has better insulation properties. A friend of my dad was using it as a way to cut heating costs in low income housing, where he had the opportunity to explore multiple options. That was the one that was giving the best results. I also don't know if it was a commercial success, so it might not be available any more.

    10. Re:Energy Conservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some advice from someone who went the tankless waterheater route, both at home and at the cabin, Great for the cabin, other then venting option suck. Not so good for the house, in fact in the first year it cost more than the old water heater I took out. I sold it on craigslist and put in a powervent water heater that works great.

      The cabin one is smaller and electric. The house one was a larger natural gas one.

      Maybe building a new house you could use multiple smaller units for each room (kitchen, laundry, couple of bathrooms) to only run one (cold) water line everywhere but then I might be worried about minimum flow rates. But you would have "instant" hot water, no hot/cold water surges when somebody ran water somewhere else, and some redundancy/options if one ever failed.

    11. Re:Energy Conservation by captaindomon · · Score: 2

      Depends a lot on where you are located. Natural gas is the standard in my area, it's abundant, cheap (about 1/10 electricity), and everyone knows how to service it. Geothermal is an interesting investment and something to consider, but when it's the middle of the night on Christmas Eve and your heating system goes down and it's near zero outside (actually happened to me once), it's nice to have a standard system that every technician in the area knows how to service.

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    12. Re:Energy Conservation by ClayDowling · · Score: 1

      Like asbestos, it isn't dangerous if you don't smash it, cut it and strew it around. My windows had better not be shedding clouds of particles. The fiberglass in the walls is pretty well locked in place. I think we're good.

    13. Re:Energy Conservation by ClayDowling · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the tip. We were attracted by the shiny cool aspect of it a year ago, but the need for a water heater was immediate and the lead time was a few weeks. Just had to have our heater serviced again today so the topic came up again.

      Also, learn from my mistake: if you're having your floors finished, power down the hot water heater, and consider taping over the leak sensor until the house has been aired out. The acrylic in a water borne floor finish is a hydrocarbon, and once a sensor is tripped it stays tripped until a tech comes out, verifies that there isn't a leak, and a new sensor gets installed. A few cold showers and $230 later we're wiser.

    14. Re:Energy Conservation by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      Geothermal should work no matter how cold it gets outside. There are switches to prevent freezing of the fluids in the pipes. Keep in mind that even when your liquid is at zero degrees, energy can still be drawn from it. The less energy there is remaining in the fluid the harder it becomes to draw out of it.

      There's also another component to this. Is the system trench or vertical drill? The vertical drill system is more expensive but it can be installed even in situations where there's limited land available. Another advantage of the vertical system is that it's not impacted by the freezing depth since it goes way below the freezing point.

      A backup is required and I suggest a hydro based system since it can be fed by the grid a solar system or even a backup generator. A gas furnace has more failure points and this is especially true if it doesn't run often. Considering the backup heater should run very few times during the year the hydro bill for heating would be minimal. (Where I live hydro heating is also about 10 times more expensive).

      When my heat went (gas furnace) I was without heat until the repair man came. If the geothermal fails it's no different and that's just part of house ownership.

    15. Re:Energy Conservation by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I believe Quebec has very good insulation regulations.

      I'm not sure where you read that, but I don't believe it. I know a guy who bought a brand new house in Quebec about 3-4 years back. The windows were all single pane and there was very little insulation in that house. Perhaps the builder didn't follow code, and hoped nobody would notice, but I didn't give me a very good impression on new homes. Often they are built worse than the old ones, or at least old ones that were reasonably maintained. It should be illegal to even sell single pane windows in a northern climate, let alone install them on new houses.

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    16. Re:Energy Conservation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because its stupid and thermal mass is easier and cheaper with rocks.

    17. Re:Energy Conservation by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      I have a tankless water heater. It's fantastic, except for two problems.

      1 - You lose hot water about 10 seconds after you lose electricity.
      2 - Your water pressure is a bit lower than using a hot water tank.

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    18. Re:Energy Conservation by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I live in NW Maine, I have a saltbox envelope house with passive solar. With the heat off, entirely, I hit about 60f at night on the coldest days. I may hit 72f on the warmest days of summer. Lots and lots of spray insulation - have them return after five years to refill it as it settles.

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    19. Re:Energy Conservation by ClayDowling · · Score: 1

      For serious energy independent there would also be a wood burner. I don't live in an area where that's practical. But in rural areas its super common.

    20. Re:Energy Conservation by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      My brother lives in Quebec and just finished building. I don't recall the specifics but going outside to inside there was a vapor barrier, 1" foam, 2" foam inside followed by a clear plastic. I most probably have the order wrong and possibly even the exact stuff used but he told me this was a requirement for him to be accepted to build. Possibly it's a local requirement so I'm not 100% sure.

      Having done business with Quebec and seen the way they bargain I believe corners are often cut. There was actually a government wide investigation done by a 3rd party (paid by said government but independent) and lots of corruption came to the surface.

    21. Re:Energy Conservation by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      A pellet stove can be used anywhere and the supply of material is readily available on demand through many small and large retailers.

  18. Mmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1 foot of insulation all around and I wouldn't put solar cells _on_ the roof, I'd _build_ the roof out of solar cells.

    Also, instead of a panic room that you have to first wake up and run to, just build the master bedroom as a panic room, then you can sleep through the burglary, B&E, carjackings etc.

    1. Re:Mmmm by KGIII · · Score: 1

      What if I do not panic because I have an alarm and I own guns - and I live in a no-crime area. I know that last part sounds crazy but it is basically true. There may be a drunk driver or speeder on the road but I am a half mile from the road, in an unincorporated town, and have exactly six houses within maybe 20 miles of my property. There *could* be crime here but, realistically, the closest you are going to come to crime here is, well, me.

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    2. Re:Mmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do people actually have panic rooms? I've only heard about them on the Internet. I guess Slashdot is the Internet...

    3. Re:Mmmm by JazzLad · · Score: 1

      master bedroom as a panic room

      carjackings

      My solution is to not drive in my bedroom.

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  19. Cat6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems like it would be easier to run Cat6/Cat6a since RJ-45 plugs are so common on computers. I might run a fiber line from one end of the house to another if it is a particularly large house (or to detached buildings/garages).

    I'd probably want a wiring closet with a power outlet and where all the cables terminate. But I wouldn't know whether to make it half a normal closet or put it with utilities such as washing/drying machines. Plus position in the house would be important (cable or the fiber ONT has to go somewhere).

    I'd double check that the guy installing the data cables isn't screwing me over. It seems likely some contractor would substitute Cat5 or something and pocket the difference.

  20. A holographic TV and a quantum teleporter by descubes · · Score: 4, Funny

    Here is my quick list:

    - 80' holographic TV with 360 channels 4D surround sound
    - Two parking spots for the hovercars
    - A quantum teleporter (ask for the free subscription to Andromeda Quantum Tours Weekly)
    - A six terawatt home battery and thorium / fusion nuclear reactor (don't go for the cheap Tesla stuff, nuclear is what you need)
    - A robosquid and a set of batteries
    - Six packs of pills for instant beer
    - An iPhone9 with the Apple Watch, Apple Pay, Apple ID, Apple Travel, iThink, assortment of overpriced cases, cables and chargers
    - At least one DNA decoder / recoder per room
    - A 65536-qbit game console for the kid

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    1. Re:A holographic TV and a quantum teleporter by MondoGordo · · Score: 1

      "- A six terawatt home battery and thorium / fusion nuclear reactor (don't go for the cheap Tesla stuff, nuclear is what you need)"

      Um ... what exactly do you need the battery for ?

    2. Re:A holographic TV and a quantum teleporter by countSudoku() · · Score: 2

      Fuck yiss, you're speaking my language, which is English mixed with unbounded tech dreams!

      First, I'd have me a Hobbit hole, you know, full of comfort and relics and maps and shit.
      Roof is half sod, half 100% efficiency solar panels with sweet lime-green metallic bezels and some kind of mounting poles that looks like skinny bird's legs.
      Cat fucking 8 EVERYWHERE, even in the walk-in, underwear and T-shirt holodeck.
      All computing devices centrally located, nearest the center of the hole, mind you; comfort.
      The walls will be stricken with RF-blocking paint, but with a nice mix of colors, nothing to drab or weird.
      Then, all the main wall surfaces are giant display systems running a nano-LCD touch thingy, for you know, comfort and Peter Jackson movies to run on in 32K-HD.
      Shitty furniture. You can't have everything.
      Floors of wired ceramic that is warm in the winter, and cool in the summertime, cuz; COMFORT
      Shitty gravel driveway and just a cheap Costco awning for the Bugatti.

      That should do it

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    3. Re:A holographic TV and a quantum teleporter by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      Something has to hold the build-up charge for the home-defense particle accelerator...

    4. Re:A holographic TV and a quantum teleporter by descubes · · Score: 1

      Um ... what exactly do you need the battery for ?

      How would you otherwise teleport when the martians attack and the grid is down? Plus, I think that if you have a quantum teleporter, having at least a couple of terawatts locally is basic construction code in most places.

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    5. Re:A holographic TV and a quantum teleporter by Mantrid42 · · Score: 1

      That's a bit excessive. 64-qbits should be good enough for anybody.

    6. Re:A holographic TV and a quantum teleporter by zenbi · · Score: 1

      You'll need an existing power source to jumpstart the Mr. Fusion reactor for when you forget to restock its fuel source (banana peels, discarded soda cans, etc...)

    7. Re:A holographic TV and a quantum teleporter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot the obvious item without which all the other items above won't work:

      - A time machine

    8. Re:A holographic TV and a quantum teleporter by hypergreatthing · · Score: 1

      so uhhh... that thorium reactor is fission, not fusion. Not exactly interchangeable.

    9. Re:A holographic TV and a quantum teleporter by descubes · · Score: 2

      that thorium reactor is fission, not fusion. Not exactly interchangeable.

      Obviously, which is why I wrote thorium / fusion, with a slash. You want the combo. Jumpstarting a fusion-only reactor from the wireless power line? That takes forever! Last time I checked, you need at least two to three frigging minutes!

      A thorium reactor, on the other hand, is a good little backup, underpowered, sure, but largely enough to fire up a Fusion Drive 6G almost instantly. Also, many small thorium generators fit in your pocket, whereas even the latest Mr Fusion are big enough that you need a car to haul them around. So when I want a senso-holomovie on the beach, I always carry a little thorium booster with me, just drop it n the seawater for a few seconds, and I'm good to go!

      Also, I forgot something essential in my list. You probably want a temporal adjustment controller. I just realized mine is on the fritz, and I'm no longer sure which year I'm in. Can you imagine if you make a mistake and talk about recent technology to, say, early 21st century Slashdotters? That would be cruel.

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    10. Re:A holographic TV and a quantum teleporter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In that case, wouldn't capacitors work better, so you can do a quick energy dump?

    11. Re:A holographic TV and a quantum teleporter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that game console is nice, but you'll still need to shell out extra for the 2,048-Skynet expander you'll need to play The Witcher 13 at recommended settings.

  21. Heating and Cooling by Thelasko · · Score: 5, Informative

    I would try to get my heating and cooling costs as low as possible. Something similar to the Passivhaus standard. I might not be strict to the standard if the cost benefit becomes too extreme. I would probably also use some sort of geothermal system as well.

    When the power goes out, it would be nice to have some sort of battery backup and/or renewable source of electricity on hand. I also like the EPA certified wood stoves that are now available, like those made by Quadra-fire. They're much more efficient than old fashioned stoves, and don't require electricity. However, their output is likely too high for a house that meets the Passivhaus standard.

    What can I say, I work in the energy field. Saving energy is fun to me.

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    1. Re:Heating and Cooling by random+coward · · Score: 1

      Passive Houses assume you live in a cold environment and heating is your major energy usage. Someone needs to try that in a hot+humid environment; not so much out there for that.

    2. Re:Heating and Cooling by jonwil · · Score: 1

      As someone who lives in Brisbane, Australia (where it can be 35-40 degrees Celsius and 70-80% humidity in the same day) I can tell you that no, these "passive" standards will never work, you NEED air-conditioning (or at least a fan of some sort)

    3. Re:Heating and Cooling by kitezh · · Score: 1

      With some of the power outages we've had in recent winters, I'd definitely include an option to hook up a generator with a transfer switch built into the main electrical panel so I could keep essentials running (well pump, fridge, freezer). I don't need to worry about heat because I have a wood stove, but for anyone relying on electric heat, having some extra circuits on the transfer switch and a big enough generator would be useful for a space heater or two.

  22. My 'tech ready' short list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cat6a wiring, sound proofed and cooled server/network cabinet, solar, radiant heat, forced air AC, dedicated theater room with wall mounts for speakers and TV and closed cabinet for A/V equipment.

    1. Re:My 'tech ready' short list by zenbi · · Score: 1

      In the "server closet" in my house, I used a built-in 16" fan for circulation. The fan was a re-purposed low voltage fan solar attic fan that I selected because of its low noise and power efficiency (less than 5 watts.)

      However, for the last 10 years, computer manufacturers have been on an efficiency binge. Although the servers and equipment in the closet used to consume many hundreds of watts and produce a lot of heat, they now do the same tasks with very little waste heat and power requirements.

      Or in other words, don't bother with the fan. I don't even turn mine on anymore.

  23. Cat 6 Wire by clifwlkr · · Score: 1

    Biggest regret I have in my home is not having Cat 6, dual runs to every single room at a minimum. Punched down to a proper patch panel in a room somewhere you can stick servers. Cat 6 should last quite a while, and give you all sorts of possibilities. Wifi sucks, and should just be for portable devices. Copper will always carry more. Cat 6 allows the 1 gig of today, plus the higher speeds coming.

    Then, I would also do in ceiling wifi with something like ubiquiti stuff (I did add that in since then) with their own copper runs and all linked together to provide seamless wifi. I have this now including outside access points.

    With that, I think you will have infrastructure (given the ability to do POE) to do almost anything you want. I would skip home automation stuff as most of it is immature and changing standards. Most of it just ends up as 'gee whiz' stuff anyways. Only exception to that is a net controllable thermostat.

    1. Re:Cat 6 Wire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly this. I built a new house in 2004. The builder ran cat 5e for everything, including POTS. Everything runs back to a patch panel in the laundry room. They have a funky wall-plate jack that you can plug RJ11 or RJ45 into, so you can patch anything into phone or ethernet. The standard package had a few runs. For a little extra money you could have them put in extra drops. I did like 20 extra. Everywhere there was a "phone" or coax TV drop, I also put in a "ethernet" drop, and then did more besides.

      The sales guy called me twice to confirm that I wanted all those extra drops. He couldn't believe it. Then the contractor doing the install called me to confirm as well. They thought I was crazy.

      I made some other stupid decisions on the house, but that wasn't one of them. It's so nice to have gigabit ethernet everywhere I want it.

  24. Wire Runs by Anubis350 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wire runs. You can change cabling later or run new cabling if the runs are in place

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    1. Re:Wire Runs by ROunofF · · Score: 1

      Yeah very cheap... Think something like 2" pvc pipes to each room so you can run new cabling if needed.

    2. Re:Wire Runs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wire TUBE runs. make it future proof by running speed tube to each node, prefill with known wire needs and at least two pull strings.

    3. Re:Wire Runs by kdayn · · Score: 1

      make shure not to run your data cables along AC power cables, otherwise you risk of getting an "alien crosstalk" and your data rates will degrade.

  25. a Whole-House Faraday Cage by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    nothing in nothing out.

    1. Re:a Whole-House Faraday Cage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nothing in nothing out.

      Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Margaret, my goddamn iPhone's on the fritz again! It was working just ten minutes ago when I was walking the dog!

  26. Cabling & Power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Easily accessible cable conduit and better power distribution, whoever built this place overloaded half the circuits by design (or accident)

  27. You insensitive clod by Required+Snark · · Score: 3, Funny

    How does this question relate to the legions of Slashdot readers who are living in their parents basement? Are you deliberately trying to demean them and their lifestyle? Have you no shame?

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  28. I would spend as much money as I could by future+assassin · · Score: 2

    to buy the biggest chunk of land I could, Put up trees/super tall hedges all around, build a nice funky house in the middle and get the biggest cable/adsl/etc connection I could from any local small ISP. Then I pup up a huge pirate or penguin flag in the center so it would just stand above the trees so people would go WTF?

    Then I would build a green house for hydroponics and grow my own food and weed.

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    1. Re:I would spend as much money as I could by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      Then I would build a green house for hydroponics and grow my own food and weed.

      That reminds me, houses don't have solariums anymore. Not one of those crappy things they used to attach to Burger Kings. A proper room to put plants. I want one of those.

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    2. Re:I would spend as much money as I could by toygeek · · Score: 1

      Come to Washington state, you'll fit right in.

  29. Business-grade features by TWX · · Score: 4, Informative

    If the house has an open attic or basement I'd do all 3/4" EMT conduit stubs for all services, be they power, data, whatever, so that there's no in-wall problems later. I'd attempt to anticipate the locations of televisions, speakers, computers, wireless access points, and anything else that might use a cable and plumb the necessary number and size of conduit for the necessary power and data requirements.

    I'd install a central vacuum system. It could be used for cleaning and for a tech bench to clean up dust when working on things, and with a proper filter might make for a good soldering station to get the fumes away. I would also run 1/2" or 3/4" soft copper in a giant loop above each room, probably "K" or maybe "L" rated, that could be hooked to an air compressor for things like cleaning, airbrush panting, etc.

    I'd define an MDF and run several service-entrance conduits from the expected service-hookup locations on the outside of the house, so that whatever subscribed, hard-line services come, there won't be a need to drill more. Probably 1" conduit.

    I'd use all 20A circuits for all electrical outlets. Circuits would not cross rooms. Some rooms would get more than one if they have more than ten outlets.

    I would completely skip on consumer-grade faucets. Chicago Faucets or T&S Brass everywhere.

    Behind the main panel I would define a room that could be a battery/inverter room. It would be climate controlled.

    I would plan on running Ethernet everywhere. I would install conduit to later let me place cameras on the outside of the structure if I was at-all concerned that they'd be needed.

    I would look into those windows that are effective large single-pixel LCDs, so that one can turn-off the view by applying power to the window.

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    1. Re:Business-grade features by swb · · Score: 1

      I'd use all 20A circuits for all electrical outlets. Circuits would not cross rooms. Some rooms would get more than one if they have more than ten outlets.

      This for sure. Can't stand the lazy-ass residential electricians who think because there are outlets on opposite sides of a wall or some j-box is easy to get to that it makes sense to have different rooms on the same breaker.

      I'd go even further:

      Separate sub panel for all permanent lighting, separate panel for outlets and a separate panel for high wattage appliances with breakers allocated per room or per outlet for the high wattage appliances.

      This should make it easier to patch in alternative energy sources, especially those unable to carry the whole house by making it simpler to just switch off the main breaker for high wattage appliances/outlets. I might even be tempted to hardwire a 3-5kVA UPS into the lighting panel. With all LED lighting, you should be able to turn all the lights on and still be under 600 watts.

    2. Re:Business-grade features by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Careful with 3/4"; 1" handles multiple drops of Cat6 much better. Also... For those who have never tried pulling cable, don't let the contractor install flexible conduit.

    3. Re:Business-grade features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want three phase 480 VAC, proper central air and vacuum, a fume hood, gas, oxygen, and vacuum lines (with dedicated traps/pump, not to be mixed with the central vac), dedicated room for chemical storage with proper ventilation and containment. Also, a lift in the three car garage. One space to fix a car, one space to hold a car, and one space to hold a giant workbench. Also, lathe, drill press, and 3-axis mill (manual, none of this CNC!) for starters.

    4. Re:Business-grade features by JBMcB · · Score: 1

      I would completely skip on consumer-grade faucets. Chicago Faucets or T&S Brass everywhere.

      Great idea. We bought a Chicago Faucets kitchen swing-arm faucet and it's held up great. Needed a new gasket a few years ago - bought one at home depot, dropped it in and it's still going.

      One note on consumer grade stuff - Delta never stops making parts for their faucets. My mom's house has Delta bathroom faucets that are at least 40 years old (I think they were the first bathroom faucets Delta manufactured) You can still go to H.D. or Lowe's and buy tune-up kits for them.

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    5. Re:Business-grade features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of commercial fixtures, get anti-microbial paints, coatings, and surface treatments.

    6. Re:Business-grade features by TWX · · Score: 1

      Sometimes you have no choice if you have to drill through joists and can't drill through the outside of a building to install inflexible stuff. That said, ENT (nonmetallic, the blue corrugated stuff) works well and at least in my area is within code for up to 600V applications. My ceiling in my workshop is 28' 2x12 beams with a flat roof on top, so if I don't want to hang my tubing/piping below the joists this is the kind of thing I have to use.

      DO NOT USE YELLOW 77 LUBRICANT! It becomes glue after a few years. PAIN IN THE ASS.

      Leave pullstrings in the conduit so that pulling new cable through later is easier.

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    7. Re:Business-grade features by TWX · · Score: 1

      This is true, but if the faucet itself corrodes (really hard water around here) then it's no good to replace cartridges.

      We went with a double-swing faucet from T&S in our kitchen; I have a three-basin sink and the regular faucets don't reach well into the left and right basins unless they stick so far out that they don't work in the small middle one, so this solution, while more expensive than a consumer-grade faucet, works well. Even better, they sell knobs and pulls so if we ever get arthritis we can change them out and have big wings to grab on to.

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    8. Re:Business-grade features by TWX · · Score: 2

      I have a lift in the three-car garage. I didn't see a reason to put one into the two-car garage. Generally one lift is enough.

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    9. Re:Business-grade features by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Then staple at regular intervals and keep good bending radii. For the record though, if you have 2x12's 16"oc with one 2" hole and the rest 1.25" you can feed pretty good lengths of schedule 20 PVC conduit through. No more than 3 90 degree bends...

  30. Re:I wouldn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    15 years ago your recommendations would have been things like CAT5e

    WTF?

    5e still gets you bulletproof 1Gbps without glitchy, insecure WIFI. How is that somehow passé now?

  31. Death Ray that rises out of the roof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would obviously need some kind of hatch on the roof that opens to allow a classic 1960's style death-ray to rise up on a pedestal for deployment.

    Functionality of the deathray is optional, but at the very least you could cage-shield the rest of the house's external framework and have a big tesla coil on the end of the deathray for visiting cars or belt buckles .....

  32. Conduit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To make it easy to change data wires should something better come along. Who knows, DC lines to LED fixtures might even become a thing.

    In cold climates also consider laying the tubes in the garage floor slab for heating even if you don't initially plan to insulate or heat the garage.

  33. Re:I wouldn't by KFK2 · · Score: 2

    Conduit from a central "network closet" to multiple places in each room (3 or 4) - It's future proof. Make sure a string is also ran long with the cables (especially if it's not point to point). The string makes pulling cables easy - just tie the cable and a new piece to the end and pull the other end.
    Big conduit between the "network closets" on each floor.
    I'd also run (4 conductor) power cables from the breaker box to each outlet/switch INDIVIDUALLY - no need to worry about not having enough power at an outlet; also doing things like home automation easier.
    Also if you're having a fireplace w/ a mantle, put an outlet above the mantle (hidden) and run a conduit from above the fireplace (right above mantle) to somewhere (either network closet or space nearby) - never know when you'll want to put something AV related (or just needs power, eg christmas lights) on the mantle.
    ~Kenny

  34. Thoughts by Yaztromo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Some thoughts:

    Wired Networking: Wireless can never touch the bandwidth, latency, or collision handling of wired networking. Provide wired access for all stationary devices, and use wireless only for those devices that are mobile or wireless-only by design (laptops, tablets, phones, WiFi lightbulbs, etc.). As much as possible, avoid wireless for things like smart TVs, set-top boxes, game consoles, etc. The more devices you have on wireless, they less bandwidth is going to be available to any one device. Unless you're going to invest in some pretty expensive networking gear, I'd stick with Cat 5e or Cat 6 cabling for now (Cat 7 is budget isn't an issue), however, ensure you use some form of wiring duct behind the walls: should the day come when you can reasonably wire everything with fibre, it will be a whole lot easier to pull it through wiring duct than it is to remove all your walls.

    Geothermal Heating/Cooling: Again, if you're not constrained by budget, invest in a Geothermal system for your heating and cooling. This often needs to be done rather early in the house design/build phase (due to the need to dig deep holes into the ground), but once in place you'll have nearly free heat in the winter and cooling in the summer (usually you just need to pay for enough electricity to run a heat pump and a fan, which is negligible). I'm fortunate enough to live in a home with community geothermal, and the system has been flawless for us (albeit not as cheap as a DIY system, as the community treats the turmoil energy as a utility. Still cheaper than the alternatives, however).

    Solar: Even if you don't plan on installing a solar system (ha!) right away, I suppose you could at least get the basic wiring done, such that when it is time to install such a system you already have a suitable location for the banks of batteries (if you're building from scratch, this could be part of a custom utility room designed for this purpose), plus the necessary wiring between that location and your rooftop panels. That way you're future-proofed, and the rest would pretty much be plug-and-play.

    Yaz

    1. Re:Thoughts by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      Where is the tin foil?

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  35. KISS by Moof123 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Beware of making your house too gadgety. In 10-15 years most of it will be outmoded and junk and you will spend a lot of time and hassle keeping it going (and if that is your schtick, why are you asking for ideas?!). Don't become a slave to your house if you can avoid it.

    Nice to haves:
    1) Extra outlets and breakers. Having fewer rooms per breaker is nice to avoid finding out that a hairdryer plus your gaming PC will pop the breaker even though one is upstairs and the other is downstairs.

    2) Speakers and speaker wire in your living room is really nice, and hard to add later.

    3) Pull Ethernet cable where you can do so. Most stuff will be on wireless, but it is nice to be able to put a wireless router where needed once you find out the hard way where the dead zones are.

    4) Good insulation. A cheap house to heat/cool is golden. Consider a heat exchanger to keep fresh air in your house, which is a bigger issue once you make a well sealed up house.

    5) Storage, storage, storage. No modern house seems to have enough good storage in it.

    6) Good sound deadening in the interior walls, few houses have this, and it sucks to try and add after the fact. Solid core interior doors help too.

    7) Glue and screw your base flooring in you minimize how many squeeks show up over time, which can slowly drive you insane.

    8) Low maintenance yard. Mowing every week sucks. Paying for yard guys sucks. Allergies suck. Unless you want to be a gardener, put in slow growing low maintenance plants that don't trigger your allergies.

    1. Re:KISS by peter303 · · Score: 1

      Those 720p plasma HDTVs all over Bill Gate home looked tacking then and would look that way now. You might finally get some reasonable imagery on 4K OLEDs.

    2. Re:KISS by sconeu · · Score: 1

      If you live in California, consider dropping the front lawn completely, and go with xeriscaping.

      Backyard you probably need grass for dogs and kids.

      --
      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    3. Re:KISS by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      1) Extra outlets and breakers. Having fewer rooms per breaker is nice to avoid finding out that a hairdryer plus your gaming PC will pop the breaker even though one is upstairs and the other is downstairs.

      If you have the opportunity to wire your own house, wire room lights on a different circuit than wall outlets. That way you don't end up in a dark room when you pop a breaker. Some hoses are wired this way, but not enough.

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    4. Re:KISS by danomac · · Score: 1

      1a) Wire all lights separately from outlets. If you pop the breaker you'll still be able to see...

  36. A few tips... by MMC+Monster · · Score: 5, Informative

    I built a custom home a few years ago.

    A few tips:
      - Cat6 everywhere. At least 4 near every TV/Receiver
      - In wall/In ceiling speakers in all rooms These should be tied into setups for receivers in most rooms. For the dining room (if you have one), kitchen, patio, and other areas you wouldn't want a receiver, have them go to the basement. When you buy receivers, make sure they have a cat5 input so that you can control them remotely.
      - Wire for central alarm system for fire alarms, burglar.
      - Wire the front door for a video camera. You don't need to install it, but having the wiring done is a nice thing to have just in case.
      - Run empty pipes to each room from the basement or attic so you can pull wire easier in the future.
      - Have your basement ceiling be 1 foot higher than your first floor ceiling. It costs little to do in the planning stage, but makes the basement look humongous when you finish it.
      - Just before they drywall everything, take pictures of every wall. This is your x-ray vision for the future.
      - 240V/30A line to the garage. Who knows, you may get an electric car in the future.
      - Have one closet on each floor which has a power outlet and cat6 cable.
      - Central vacuum. Once you have it, you will never go back.

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    1. Re:A few tips... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Get a washlet toilet seat, or at least put the wiring in for one. Bathrooms can have odd rules for electrical items depending on your jurisdiction, and having the writing there at built time makes it a lot easier if you decide to get one in future. Having said that, get one now and you will never go back to a plain old crapper.

      Heated seat in the winter. Water jets leave you cleaner than when you went in. The soothing sound of running water to cover up embarrassing noises, and a deodoriser as a courtesy to the next user. The western standard throne is little more than a latrine in comparison.

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    2. Re:A few tips... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Awesome advice. I live in an older home (1940s, in the Netherlands) so my home isn't the indestructible concrete used these days, but brick walls with brick or drywall inside, and the previous owner was both able and thoughtful enough to keep most of these tips in mind when he redid the place (except for the central vacuum). I can't begin to describe how much I appreciate the CAT6 in every room.

      I would add to this: plan heating / cooling in the design phase as well. It'll look way better than having to add extra radiators or airco units as an afterthought. Also: run electricity to everything outside, even if it's just a little garden shed to keep the lawnmower in. Add a couple of outlets outside in strategic places (near your car, for example), and make sure you can turn them off. Lastly: don't skimp on the little luxuries that will be really hard to add later on: good lighting and heated mirrors in the bathroom, floor heating where it makes sense, run water or electricity to places where you might want to add an irrigation system, hot tub, etc. at some point. In general: plan for the future.

      Oh, if you want to add Home Automation stuff now or later (remotely controlled / automatic lights, etc), have the electrician run both neutral and live wires to every in-wall switch (in some places the building code may actually require this).

      --
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    3. Re:A few tips... by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      I'm against burglar alarms. They just alert you that your stuff has been stolen. I want closed circuit television cameras so I can get a picture of those bastards to give to the police!

      --
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    4. Re:A few tips... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Run empty pipes to each room from the basement or attic so you can pull wire easier in the future

      Keep an eye on applicable fire codes, though.

      Having any sort of vertical path for air creates a chimney in the event of a fire. For this reason, in modern construction they have to spray fireproof foam around any penetrations between floors. (I wanted a vertical chase for wires, but my contractor + local fire inspector said "hell no.")

      I don't know if there's some protocol around enclosed pipes that might address the risk.

      Pipes on a single level should be no problem. Maybe you could have an access closet where you can drill, run, and seal any wires between floors.

      (And, yes, I also recommend Cat 6 everywhere.)

    5. Re:A few tips... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alarm is a deterrent. Cameras in sight are too, but they can also destroy them, and unless you're uploading off-site with enough data or have them sufficiently hidden, a security box is typically easy to find and take.

    6. Re:A few tips... by steveg · · Score: 1

      As long as you've brought up toilets...

      If there are any males in the house (heh, who am I kidding, this is Slashdot) you want oval, not round.

      --
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    7. Re:A few tips... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want at least a 40A circuit for an electric car, bigger is better.

    8. Re:A few tips... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      Not just Cat6 everywhere ...

      http://www.cyberxlink.com/stor...

      Pull once.

      --
      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
    9. Re:A few tips... by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      240V/30A line to the garage. Who knows, you may get an electric car in the future.

      I'd run four of them: two for the EV chargers, one for a big air compressor, and one for a welder. (The latter two might also be appropriate to go in the basement, depending on your house's design.)

      --

      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    10. Re:A few tips... by AnotherSeattlePrgmr · · Score: 1

      I built a custom home a few years ago.

      A few tips: ... - 240V/30A line to the garage. Who knows, you may get an electric car in the future. ....

      230V/30A is not enough. The Tesla Model S already takes 80 amps with dual chargers for fastest charging. Run 100 amp wiring, even if its not hooked up yet to your panel. In the future people will have ever more power hungry electric cars.

  37. nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    nothing because it all breaks, just finished repairing Velux motorized blinds myself because the dealer wanted to replace them for $500 each and refused to repair them.

  38. building a new home by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    start with location and orientation, face the sun ... passive solar #1 ... energy independence ... earth heat pump with pipes in big pond or lake if possible ... cool stuff ?? fiber by all means ... server room in basement in Faraday cage ... all natural, local materials ... read the "Natural House" ... all the "cool" gizmos soon wear out and one gets tired of them ... go for real, lasting things ... they improve the quality of life ... big wide porch, wide overhangs ... maybe post and beam ... a good sound system is nice, especially if you like classical ...

  39. remote controllable room vents by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

    I always thought it would be awesome that all the forced air vents in rooms were remote controllable so you could only heat or cool the rooms were people are. seems like a no brainer.

    1. Re:remote controllable room vents by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      I always thought it would be awesome that all the forced air vents in rooms were remote controllable so you could only heat or cool the rooms were people are. seems like a no brainer.

      Interesting how things that seem like a good idea on the surface turn out to be counterproductive once you consider all the implications of doing them.

      Damage to structures from condensation in structures, damage to HVAC equipment due to high static pressures, reduced heating/cooling efficiency of structures due to unbalanced air flows.

    2. Re:remote controllable room vents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean like not installing remote controllable air vent controls?

      Rooms tend to become too hot or too cold because air flow is unbalanced in the first place.

      damage to HVAC equipment due to high static pressures

      hmm, right.... in a house? Where you have a tinny little blower? You'll damage the blower motor by only having 2 outlets open instead of 10? You know, most blowers can run at low speed too.

      reduced heating/cooling efficiency of structures

      This I think is for remote controlled system?

      condensation in structures

      And this has nothing to do with remote vent controls.

      I'm not so sure what your point was, whether pro or against, but most points don't really make sense in regard to original request. Clearly, any system has a pressure monitor that prevents too much static pressure and vents are never really closed 100% anyway.

  40. passive solar heat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Passive solar heat -- 60% or more of the house-hold heat should come from the sun and stored in the mass of the walls and floor
    2) urine separated from waste flow and utilized for ammonium generation ( nh3/nh4 fuel cell? )
    3) pex based in-floor heating/cooling
    4) water capture/reuse -- grey water reuse in garden
    5) places to hide food/guns/gold/computers (emp protected) /seed/
    6) other non-taxable production means in addition to solar heat

  41. Well... by Rei · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you want to go full-on nerdy, a pneumatic tube system can't go awry... ;) Bonus points if it connects to your mailbox. Extra bonus points if there's an outlet on your roof that you can fire things from.

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  42. None! by MooseDontBounce · · Score: 1

    When my house burnt down 4 years ago we leveled what was left and started over from scratch. I looked into all the latest tech but the cost was astronomical for most high end tech stuff at that time! The only thing I did put in was nice theater surround in my living room. Splurge on the kitchen area and cabinets. Not cool at all but more re-sale value.

  43. Electric lights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The technology is awesome (Beats candles and oil lamps, that's for sure!) And looks like it's here to stay.

  44. Energy efficiency by mellon · · Score: 1

    Make sure your house has a decently sealed envelope, and use a heat recovery ventilator to ventilate it. Saves a ton on electric bills, and is more comfortable. Also make sure it's decently insulated, for the same reason. This probably seems pretty pedestrian, but it will make a much bigger difference in your daily life than gadgets. That said, we also wired our house for environmental monitors (temperature, humidity, air quality), and that has been kind of cool, and we have energy sensors on every circuit in the house so we can see what the house is drawing (also cool). But these things are more curiosities than actually useful, unfortunately. I do make routine use of the weather station we installed outside. And I wired the house for cat6e shielded, which will handle ten gigabit ethernet. I never use it, but in theory it's damned cool. I would like to have a doorbell cam down at the garage, but haven't gotten around to installing it yet. Fortunately that can be a retrofit.

    1. Re:Energy efficiency by spaceman375 · · Score: 1

      This, oh so much this. A residential heat recovery air exchange unit will make your home smell (and be) fresh all the time. Intakes in the bathrooms, kitchen, and basement, fresh air outputs in bedrooms & most used living spaces. You'll be glad you did. Just don't forget de- and re- humidifiers, depending on your region.

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    2. Re:Energy efficiency by mellon · · Score: 1

      Yup. Humidity is the one thing HRVs don't control well. Although I've found that strategic operation of the HRV can have a big impact on indoor humidity: turn it off at night if the house isn't full, for example, and you can ride over some high and low humidity events. But you have to be careful--forgetting and leaving it off for an extended period isn't a good idea, obviously.

  45. House wiring needs by IMarvinTPA · · Score: 1

    In-Wall speaker wire and other entertainment system wiring (with lines to a projector mount in the ceiling.).

    12 Volt DC electrical wiring in addition to standard AC wiring. That way if you go Solar or Battery, you can keep your electrical systems from doing multiple wasteful conversions.

    Ethernet wiring and Cable wiring. While wireless is handy, you need a good wired infrastructure to get your gear in to optimal places. Wired fixed equipment frees up your wireless bandwidth for your portable stuff (and is a bit more future proof since the wired standards are fairly well set).

    Drains in the floors of rooms with water service. Much less flood damage when the washer or dishwasher breaks down somehow or a sink gets stopped up with the water forgotten.

  46. Re:Energy Conservation tax incentives by rwa2 · · Score: 1

    Does it make sense to do all of that energy efficiency stuff upfront? Or spread it out the installation over the years to maximize, uh, tax incentives?

    It's hard to find a good resource... need updated versions of http://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroo... that include the plug-in electric vehicle chargers and solar cells.

    There are lots of weird restrictions... for example, you can get some energy efficiency credit for installing sunroofs in the ceiling only if they are attached to a home HVAC automation system so it adjusts the blinds and/or vents in concert with the air conditioning. Installing a manually-operated sunroof/blinds doesn't qualify!

    We just bought a duplex built in the early 70s with mostly original (high quality but not high efficiency) appliances, and we're trying to budget out home improvements for the next 10 years. The roof needs to be replaced in the next 3 years, so we'd like to have enough saved to do a modest solar panel / sunroof install by then, but they'd probably wouldn't make much of a dent in our electric bill until we replace the appliances :P . Maybe an electric vehicle charger is in our future too, not for the next car but perhaps the one after that, but it's hard to plan for taking advantage of tax incentives that far into the future :/

    Also have to improve our water efficiency somehow... we also live in a water rich region, but the water bill is easily the most expensive utility because the sewage / runoff water treatment is astronomical. It is nice to have urban lakes that are safe for swimming, though, so it's worth it.

  47. Put in the right stuff by RapterOfParadox · · Score: 1

    Based on my past experience with remodeling my house, I recommend the following:

    Install the following in every room, on at least 2 walls
    - RG6 cable for TV. Use compression fittings
    - Cat6 for both phone and network
    - Use the Leviton (or off-brand) covers and keystone jacks to make everything look nice. This way you have cable, network, and phone in the same location.
    - 4 gang outlets near every spot you put network/phone/cable

    Purchase a pro-grade cable amp to deal with signal loss. Invest in a Leviton (or off brand) cabinet to hide and organize the wires. Invest in a patch panel for the network and phone as well as a switch for the network. If anyone tells you the future is wireless, their full of crap. You still need wires for cable and decent networking. If you're running cable, you might as well run two more wires for network and phone. If you don't need phone, then you're set with at least two network jacks.

    Other handy things people have mentioned - large conduit in the walls for running audio or future cabling needs.

    Remember that everything else with"smart" this or "smart" that will need to be replaced within 5 to 10 years of installing it.

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  48. Been there; done that by mschuyler · · Score: 1

    I built a house many years ago and very carefully wired it with telephone wire terminated in standard D-blocks so I could run the Lantastic WAN system.

    Then along came Wi-Fi.

    I also pre-wired speaker wire into a second set of electrical outlets, which worked pretty well, actually. But today I would use conduit because, well, Lantastic was great, but....

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  49. zero energy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    make it completely self sustained. No A/C in summer and no heating in winter. Recycle rain water for consumption.

  50. I've maintained a list :) by JBMcB · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Cat 6, Cat 3 and Coax to every room. Cat 6 + power to a few closets for WiFi APs.
    Structured wiring to a central ethernet/phone/TV distribution hub with media server, UPS, etc...
    - The above can cost thousands of dollars if done professionally. My brother-in-law did it himself (before his house was drywalled) for a few hundred dollars.

    Solotubes in the bathrooms (basically mini-skylights that collect enough light at night to act as a nightlight)

    Hookup for solar - the tech isn't *quite* there yet.
    Hookup for garage EV charger - see above.
    Multiple passthroughs for wires going outside - for future expansion (ham radio antennas, sprinkler systems, whatever)

    If you're really into gardening, a hookup for an outdoor sink (with warm water) is *really* nice.

    A properly wired OTA TV/FM antenna - for cord cutting.

    Depending on the size of the house - multiple thermostats.
    IP thermostat with integrated humidistat to control the humidifier. I like the Nest.

    An attic fan with a nice controller - won't live without one of these now - we can go for most of spring without A/C by just using the fan.

    Metal roof - recommended by a roofer friend who has them on his house - if properly installed they will last practically forever.

    If you don't want a security system, at least run some LV 2-wire to each window and door so you can add one later if you change your mind later.
    Also run wiring for connected, powered fire alarms. At the very least - one in each bedroom, one in the kitchen, one in every stairwell and one in the furnace room.

    Ideas from a local builder:
    2x6 framing - allows for more insulation and is more durable.
    16" poured reinforced concrete foundation - recommended by structural engineers as ideal for residential construction.
    Remember this - building to code is like getting a C on a report card - you're doing the bare minimum to make sure the house won't fall apart, flood or catch fire.

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    1. Re:I've maintained a list :) by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      An attic fan with a nice controller - won't live without one of these now - we can go for most of spring without A/C by just using the fan.

      attic fans are made to dissipate heat from the attic space by blowing out the hot air and sucking in the air from soffit vents it should be sealed off from the house's living spaces if the change is that dramatic in the spring and fall then chances are that through out the rest of the year it is working against your central heat and air and costing you extra money and possibly damaging your roof.

    2. Re:I've maintained a list :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Solotubes in the bathrooms

      I image googled "Solotubes" during a break at work... That's not what I was expecting (warning: NSFW).

    3. Re:I've maintained a list :) by JBMcB · · Score: 1

      Lol SOLATUBES. SOLATUBES.

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    4. Re:I've maintained a list :) by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Cat 6, Cat 3 and Coax to every room.

      Cat 3 is pointless. If you want old analog phones, just run another Cat 6 and terminate it differently. Then, when you eventually decide you'd rather have another Ethernet jack, the wiring is already there.

      Ideas from a local builder: 2x6 framing - allows for more insulation and is more durable. 16" poured reinforced concrete foundation - recommended by structural engineers as ideal for residential construction. Remember this - building to code is like getting a C on a report card - you're doing the bare minimum to make sure the house won't fall apart, flood or catch fire.

      Better yet, use structural insulated panels (SIPs) and/or insulated concrete forms (ICFs).

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      "[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz

    5. Re:I've maintained a list :) by jwhitener · · Score: 1

      Note to people who may want to google some of these terms:

      Solotubes returns drastically different google image search results than Solatube....

    6. Re:I've maintained a list :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What can you do with Cat3 that you can't do with Cat6?

  51. Raised floor by jmcwork · · Score: 1

    For office areas or dedicated A/V rooms, consider some type of raised flooring for easier cable management. If you have a workshop, do it in there to help with power distribution and dust collection.

  52. None by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't put any such devices in my house other than thoroughly wiring it with high quality Cat-6a in 3/4" conduit with pull string to pull more runs as needed or replace the Cat-6a with whatever may replace it in the future. Why you may ask? Because you will have all this new fancy gear and in 10 years it'll all be outdated or not working as intended. Keep it as simple as you can and add on the devices as you want to the data runs you pulled.

    Now, if you're looking at green tech, it depends on where you are but I would definitely be thinking geothermal heating and cooling plus maybe solar (or wind turbines if you're on a hill). I would also make sure that my windows are all UV reflective and have a slight tint on them.

  53. Not high tech but feels great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The #1 thing I would have in new construction is zone water based floor heating. It is efficient and just plain feels great. It works well with geothermal or more conventional heating techniques.

  54. Conduit by MpVpRb · · Score: 1

    Houses last a long time, tech moves much faster

    Remember the houses of the 80s, pre-wired for cable TV?

    Nice, large conduits allow cat-6 today, fiber tomorrow..something else later

    Yeah, wireless can be useful, but a wire is always better

  55. Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Solar + the tesla home batteries. As well as 10Gbit eternet to every room.
    Could make it so the lights are controller via smartphone and other such "smart home" things, but the moment the manufacturer stops sending out updates, you will no longer be able to use them with newer devices... And you just know that nothing is future proof.

  56. Actually mostly old tech. by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    Like actually having long eaves, thick walls, real designs like a central solid brick or concrete wall for heat storage. Things that the idiot architects today seem to not do.

    the new stuff will be home run all electrical to a lighting control panel from Vantage, Lutron, or Crestron (technically old tech as it's been around for 30 years)
    Conduit to all low voltage locations that all home run to a set of inset wall panels for easy infrastructure upgrades. (Again old 30 year old tech)

    The only new-new tech would be fiberoptic lighting from solar light collectors on the roof. The light tube skylights are horrible at insulation and are just holes in the ceiling. The fiber optic stuff does not impact the roof insulation value. Plus it is a lot easier to run.

    The last thing I would love that is a new-new thing. Aero-Gel as the wall and ceiling insulation.

    Everything else is easy. Home theater, a real one not the lame tv in the living room "home theater" is simply a spare room set up with only a few grand of gear. Even good 4K projectors are only $3000 now. If your house is set up for easy upgrade, the tech can slide in and be upgraded regularly.

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    1. Re:Actually mostly old tech. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last thing I would love that is a new-new thing. Aero-Gel as the wall and ceiling insulation.

      That doesn't really make sense. It's too expensive and doesn't really get you more energy savings over pink insulation + some styrofoam on the outside. R25 wall is basically max you want anyway. R60 or R80 roof is what you want.

      Remember, your house is still probably built from 2"x6" wood.

      Conduit to all low voltage locations that all home run to a set of inset wall panels for easy infrastructure upgrades.

      Or just run cat-6. 1 drop of that in every location is all you should need for any upgrades going forward.

    2. Re:Actually mostly old tech. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just run cat-6. 1 drop of that in every location is all you should need for any upgrades going forward.

      And 640K ought to be enough, also.

  57. insulation, wires in pipes, simple things by pesho · · Score: 1

    You don't need the latest and the greatest tech to have an outstanding house in US. You probably don't want to put in something that has not been thoroughly tested into a structure that is designed to serve for decades. I would recommend looking into some of the technologies involved in building passive houses (think insulation, double pane windows). And before picking on whatever the coolest fad in wiring there is, make sure you put all your wiring in pipes. This way whenever you decide you need to upgrade your GigE to Fiber, or whatever comes out next month you don't need to destroy half of your house.

  58. A (Japanese hi-tech) hybrid Toilet-Bidet... by antiperimetaparalogo · · Score: 1
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  59. Toilets NOT in the bathroom by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Toilets belong in an entirely separate room, protected by a door. Two doors would be better - one going to the hallway, another to the shower/bath/sink.

    Because whatever idiot came up with the idea of having your toothbrush, comb, shaving gear exposed to the same air as your toilet had never heard of germs or fluid dynamics.

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    1. Re:Toilets NOT in the bathroom by Blaskowicz · · Score: 2

      I'm more concerned about needing to take a shit while you're mother or father is having a bath, or wanting to e.g. wash teeth while $very_important_person is shitting and is taking long.

    2. Re:Toilets NOT in the bathroom by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      Toilets belong in an entirely separate room, protected by a door. Two doors would be better - one going to the hallway, another to the shower/bath/sink.

      Because whatever idiot came up with the idea of having your toothbrush, comb, shaving gear exposed to the same air as your toilet had never heard of germs or fluid dynamics.

      There should be a name for this room. I know! A water closet!

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    3. Re:Toilets NOT in the bathroom by cps42 · · Score: 4, Informative

      You missed the Mythbusters episode where they proved the toothbrush got just as much fecal coliform on it when stored in the Kitchen as did the one in the bathroom, didn't you?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...

    4. Re:Toilets NOT in the bathroom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Toilets belong in an entirely separate room, protected by a door.

      Ugh. Whatever idiot came up with this idea has never heard of germs or how they transfer from the hand to the door knob. :P

    5. Re:Toilets NOT in the bathroom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Restroom, Bathroom, Washroom.

    6. Re:Toilets NOT in the bathroom by pesho · · Score: 1

      What makes you think your tootbrush has less germs than your toilet?

    7. Re:Toilets NOT in the bathroom by Lorens · · Score: 1

      I'm only wasting one mod point here: OK, separate the toilet from the bathroom, perfect, but don't forget to put in a a sink for washing hands beside the toilet. It costs next to nothing and there are slim models that do not take up much space. I have two bathrooms with sink, two toilets with sink. Even with a family of four, I find it's a minimum.

    8. Re:Toilets NOT in the bathroom by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      It saves quite a bit of space though as you just need one room rather than two.

    9. Re:Toilets NOT in the bathroom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which room do you shit in again?

    10. Re:Toilets NOT in the bathroom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Mythbusters

      > proved

      LOL.

  60. Build a green house OVER my house by Karmashock · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Literally just put the entire house inside a green house. Have the green house extend as far away from the house in all sides as I can afford.

    Then manage the internal temp and humidity of the green house to create a year round micro climate for my house.

    First, you have to make use of as much geo thermal energy as possible. The ground stays stable at the same temperature all year round. If you're in an area that gets cold in the winter, then what you want to do is cycle all the air in the green house through the ground. The ground stays at about 55 degrees which is well above freezing. Just using some shafts and some fans, you should be able to keep the green house at 55 degrees.

    You can push it higher by storing heat collected during the day. Even in the dead of winter, a green house will get warm in the middle of the day. Often so hot that you need to vent heat in the middle of a winter day. Instead of venting, store the heat in the ground. Just pump air from the top of the green house through pipes about six feet under the ground. You'll heat up the earth under the green house which will release that heat all night. You also don't have to lose humidity if you're in a dry area if you're cycling the air that way. If you vent, then you'll equalize the humidity inside with outside. If you don't need to vent then you can keep it trapped.

    After that you can play with aquaponics... get yourself a fish pond and cycle the water through a hydroponic grow bed.

    Inside the house, I really liked that idea about switching to low voltage DC. It makes going off grid more affordable because you're not wasting so much power converting things to and from AC all the time. You just go DC to the batteries, then DC from the batteries into the home grid, and then from the home grid right into the appliances etc which will use DC natively. All you'll have to do is watch voltage and amperage.

    Beyond that, I'd smart house the whole house with arduinos.

    So... all the boring stuff like lights, power management, water management, doors, security, etc. But go farther with a sprinkler system, etc.

    Then for the entertainment system, I'd go with a black screen projector for my home theater. These are neat because they work in broad daylight. No wash out of the picture despite having a huge screen or the lights on.

    I'd keep the house to one story and might even sink it into the ground a bit. Keep in mind that most windows don't touch the ground in the first place. So why have the window be that far above the ground on the outside? This is relevant to the green house concept because you want the house to be in the green house but to block as little light as possible.

    The roof of the house could be flat and planted or have a deck on it or something. Remember, the roof doesn't get rained on. The rain falls on the roof of the green house. It never touches the actual house.

    The garage for the car should either be a separate structure or be under the house. There's no reason for a car's garage to be on the first floor. That space is too precious. Have a ramp go down into the basement and have the car kept there.

    An interesting idea is to CNC mill the bricks or stones that the house is made out of. A CNC machine capable of doing this isn't that expensive and you wouldn't need to mill literally every stone. Just enough to get the effect you were going for.

    A few ideas that are interesting to me are perfectly fit stones. If you look at neolithic buildings they don't use mortar. They use perfectly fit stones that fit together like a jigsaw. Gravity holds the whole thing together. You can and probably should use mortar and steel reinforcement. BUT if the stones fit together like that, you don't have to do that. They click together like legos.

    Another thing you could do with that is have the entire structure carved... or milled. Imagine some sort of pictogram or pattern in the stone.

    Lighting in the green house would be a big deal. You'd want the green house to be able to

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    1. Re:Build a green house OVER my house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At some point, I'd like a house that I can shut the door on and the rest of the planet can go fuck itself... and it won't really matter to me.

      doesn't that already describe you, today (and every other day), in your parents' basement? sure, it isn't your house - you don't own it - but it is where you live and spend all your time. if only you could figure out some way to get paid for all the time you waste on slashdot, you'd have it made, amiright?

    2. Re:Build a green house OVER my house by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      hey bingo

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    3. Re:Build a green house OVER my house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bingo

      that would be an ideal game for you, i suppose. after all, it requires no skill or advance knowledge. hopefully you can remember to always dabber the free space. i'd just feel bad for the senior citizens in the bingo hall hearing you cuss everyone out. hopefully they remember to turn down their hearing aids when you come in, and just watch the screen.

    4. Re:Build a green house OVER my house by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      bingo the clowno

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  61. Heated driveway by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

    It's not really new tech but a heated driveway, patio, and stairs which would be great for me since I get a lot of snow and ice.

  62. wireless sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Run conduit everywhere you think you might need a computing device. That's easily every television outlet as a minimum.

    Conduit lets you move with the time, pulling cat5/6 today and pulling fibre some day in the future.

    But whatever you do, don't rely on wireless where you have the opportunity to run wire.

  63. I'd put in: by Streetlight · · Score: 1

    For fixed-in-place lighting, such as sconces, pot lights in the kitchen, under counter lighting, out of doors lighting, etc. I'd figure out how to set up LED lights connected to a central electric supply. Each fixture would not generate much heat because the conversion from 110 V AC to low voltage DC would take place either outside the home or in the garage away from the living space.

    Secondly, I'd put conduits in the walls, ceilings and floors, as needed, from a central location/utility closet so that cabling could easily be fished to every room. Right now the kinds of cables likely would be coax, ethernet and maybe telephone. Any changes in tech might require replacing current stuff with new tech (fiber optic) or higher quality than anything currently available. I wouldn't pay to put in cables that aren't currently needed because there might be something better in the future obsoleting what you put in. At a multi building campus where I once worked IT installed connections between buildings to a central location using fiber optics which wasn't needed. They thought they were future proofing themselves. It turned out all the fiber had to be replaced (not the conduits, thankfully) because when they finally got around to installing the switches some years later, they found the originally installed fiber was the wrong stuff. Newer fiber was somehow different.

    Likewise, you might consider wiring windows, doors and motion detector locations for an alarm system, even if you don't plan on installing one. The sensors for wired alarms are quite small compared to those used for RF sensors and you will save on the cost of replacing batteries in the sensors. If later you find you need to install an alarm system it'll be an easy job.

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  64. Shipstones. by jpellino · · Score: 1

    Barring that, solar PV and an e-Golf.

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  65. Stuff... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I was having my house built I ran cat-6 to every phone jack and installed dual panels. I also ran drops to a wireless AP on each floor, and adjacent ends of the house. At the time X10 was the big thing, but now I would install z-wave devices in place of every switch and electrical outlet. In hindsight I wish I had run some multi function cable to each room as well, I thought about running additional 1inch+ conduit to each room as well in case I wanted to add some additional functionality, makes doing the drops a lot easier.

  66. Here's a few idea by Eloking · · Score: 1

    At first I would think about a pipe complex in the structure of the house so I could easily wire anything anywhere. But with the future going more and more wireless (even charging battery), it could become obsolete in a few year.

    A few other idea are power outlet with USB and wireless power meter, wireless locking system, LED light bulb, smart thermostat, Solarcity's photovoltaic system with Tesla Battery, camera and security system connected to the network (and your cellphone) if your neighborhood isn't completely safe and finally a strong network paired with "Google fiber" like internet.

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  67. Wrong Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The proper question is what can your contractors handle.

    I've got a house with Geo Thermal heating and automatic vents and fans to save even more when the outside weather is right.

    The net result is that in winter, when heat is needed the vents open and the fans turn on because the system can't tell the difference between heat and cool.

    The first time that happened, I wasn't home and had a couple of burst pipes.

    So you need to keep it simple with things that the contractors understand.

    Also, don't hire any engineers unless you want the prices to skyrocket, or they are absolutely critical.

  68. Conduits everywhere. by w3woody · · Score: 2

    Make sure that they run whatever cable you decide to run (ethernet, fiber, whatever) in conduit, ideally with junction boxes on a relatively regular basis (at bends, etc), so it is easy to draw new wire through when you need to.

    Yes, the electrician will say "you don't need to do that; that's silly." Ignore him. Do it.

    I just recently moved into a house with ethernet run through to all of the rooms from an access point in the basement. Unfortunately over the years some of the runs have deteriorated--but sadly, the ethernet wire was simply threaded through holes in the studs, making it virtually impossible to pull new wire through. Had it been drawn through relatively large conduit, and had there been boxes on a regular basis, it would take just a few minutes to draw a new wire.

    That also goes for conduits where you may want to put a big screen TV on the wall, low voltage systems (like door bells), and other runs where you may want to add something new (like in-home speakers or whatever). I know it's impossible to plan for everything, but at least you'll have a fighting chance when some new technology comes around (or something in the wall breaks), that it can be easily replaced without having to tear up a whole lot of drywall.

    1. Re:Conduits everywhere. by danomac · · Score: 1

      Make sure that they run whatever cable you decide to run (ethernet, fiber, whatever) in conduit, ideally with junction boxes on a relatively regular basis (at bends, etc), so it is easy to draw new wire through when you need to.

      Yes, the electrician will say "you don't need to do that; that's silly." Ignore him. Do it.

      Do not put junction boxes at all bends. Electrical code in almost all regions require junction boxes to be accessible (you can't cover them with drywall), so that means you'll have a metal cover plate on your wall where these boxes are. If you're concerned about bends, adjust the conduit diameter accordingly.

    2. Re:Conduits everywhere. by w3woody · · Score: 1

      Sorry, you're right; was thinking of the crawl space under my old house.

  69. Insulation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good insulation. That's the best tech ever. Build a passive house.

  70. A couple of quick things ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    Cat6 network cables everywhere, running to your central cabling hub, possibly 2 per room.
    Cable TV outlets liberally sprinkled around.
    Speaker wires to multiple locations for your stereo with wall plugs for speakers.
    They make in-wall HDMI plates to keep your wires tidy.
    A couple of them newfangled wall plugs with built in USB charging ports.
    A heat pump which does both heating and cooling.
    Sound proofing for wherever your TV will go.
    More plugs than you think you need, and a larger electrical panel than suggested to expand if you need to.
    LED pot lights and lots of dimmers.
    Under-cabinet lighting in your kitchen.

    Basically anything which is hard to put in later. Infrastructure which is there is much more flexible down the road.

    And, depending on your climate .. if you have duct work, make sure your damned seams are taped/seals so you're not losing all that heat/AC out gaps. There's nothing worse than realizing the air isn't getting where it needs to.

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    1. Re:A couple of quick things ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Oh, and one really handy one:

      Wherever you plan on having major collections of electronics, put at least one outlet on a dedicated circuit so everything is isolated.

      My computers and my stereo each have one, and it prevents those annoying things like having your UPS come on when your laser printer starts up. They're also each next to a non-dedicated circuit for overflow for less sensitive things.

      Enough plugs, and some dedicated circuits make like a LOT easier. When I did my basement we have a plug every 6 feet on the wall.

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  71. Floor heating by bkr1_2k · · Score: 2

    Floor heating/cooling/ Far more efficient than forced air and no worries about the crap your moving around your house (mold, pollen, etc.) so fewer respiratory issues. We kept our house in Korea at 17C (~63 F for the US folks) in the winter and would sweat if we wore anything other than shorts and t-shirts. You can also tie into your geothermal/solar for even further reduced costs.

    Definitely solar/wind power capability-- as close to "off grid" as feasible in the desired footprint. Tie in to grid but be self sufficient when necessary.

    Along the discussion of the DC home, a good inverter and maybe dedicated DC outlets. Maybe just feed outlets directly from solar/wind battery bank.

    I'd add switchable glass windows to go "opaque" whenever I wanted, at least in the bedrooms.

    Intercom with a console in every room, and one on the back patio/deck and garage. Less of an issue if you are building a single floor house, but quite helpful if you live with folks who are hard of hearing or you're building a reasonable large or multi-story house.

    The obvious speaker, network, and coax wiring throughout.

    A "dark" room with full faraday cage built into the walls. Turn it into my home theater or something. Nothing in, nothing out. Nice for private conversations and no distractions while otherwise entertaining.

    Obviously some of these assume a fairly large budget. The geothermal with floor heating shouldn't be too much more to invest in initially than a "conventional" forced air system, though and will pay for itself fairly quickly. (In the central Atlantic region of the US, my calculations were about 7 years for initial install and something like 11-13 for a retro-fit). Adding solar/wind won't cost significantly less than they would as a retrofit, except possibly the grid tie-in. Do the grid tie-in either way and save yourself some trouble down the road.

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    1. Re:Floor heating by bkr1_2k · · Score: 2

      Man I hate making spelling and grammar mistakes. Sometimes it takes more than two readings...

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    2. Re:Floor heating by linuxpyro · · Score: 1

      Along the discussion of the DC home, a good inverter and maybe dedicated DC outlets. Maybe just feed outlets directly from solar/wind battery bank.

      I'd add switchable glass windows to go "opaque" whenever I wanted, at least in the bedrooms.

      Running low voltage DC over long distances properly is difficult, as you need bigger wiring, switches, fuses, etc. I'm not sure I'd want to do a lot of home wiring with it. Modern inverters are relatively efficient and fairly reliable. I would say that the way to go would be to pick out a few circuits for 'critical' loads you would like to be able to supply backup power to or run off grid, and run them into a separate sub panel. You could either just wire this into your main panel during construction, or install a battery/inverter system right away that would act like a big UPS to the loads on the sub panel. You can get inverters that will work with batteries, but push excess power from solar/wind into the grid while the grid is up. If it goes down, you can run your critical loads on battery power.

      For some low voltage things I'd maybe consider a separate, smaller PV system and locate it close to the load, maybe for something like garden lights or ham radio gear.

      Higher voltage DC is an interesting idea, especially since you could probably run a lot of switching supplies off of it - some data centers do this. However you need special switches and fuses to be able to interrupt it. I'm not sure 120/240 VDC is something I'd want in my home.

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  72. Easily Accessible and Pervasive Conduit Path by MarkvW · · Score: 1

    No doubt about it, at all. Design around a beautiful skeleton and your future can be as beautiful-and mutable-as you want.

  73. Fiber, For Sure by CAOgdin · · Score: 1

    When I was overseeing the construction of my new home (2001), 100 MB/s cable was all the rage (1GHz was very new, and expensive), and I installed it after the house (exterior) was sheathed, but before (interior) drywall was put in. The cable loops from outlet-box to outlet-box through the studs, with lots of slack (in a loop) between the boxes. I also put in a "pull-cord" (heavy plastic twine) from each outlet-box to both its' neighbors, so I could pull replacement cable in the future. Those cords just droop down beside the outlet box, behind the drywall; remove the box, tie on the cable...go to the next box and pull the new cable (and a new "pull cord") through. I pulled the coax-cable for TV through the same path, to the same outlet boxes.

    It turns out, 100 MB/s is plenty good for my computer business at home, although making copies of backups would be faster if I upgraded to 1GHz (or higher). Since backups are made while I sleep, I don't much care how long they take.

  74. Outside power options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Power outlets outside:

    Under eaves for Christmas lights. Even if you dint like then, the next owners might appreciate it.

    For outside security/accent lighting around your yard, pathways, driveways, flower beds, whatever. Solar lights might work instead for some of that if you don't get a lot of cloudy days, but don't under estimate the usefulness.

  75. Keep it simple but useful. by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

    1. No central thermostat, each room shall have an individual thermostat. This because the amount of equipment and sunlight impacting each room differs.
    2. Some areas can have movement sensors for support light, helpful when you need to visit the facility in the middle of the night or have your hands full with stuff coming home from shopping.
    3. Timer outlets for stuff like coffee maker. No need to have it going for hours making tar.
    4. Outlets with CAT7 - you can POTS on them if you want, and fixed networking is still more reliable than wireless.
    5. 3-phase electrical system.
    6. The heating system shall be water carried, a lot less noise when having proportional valves.
    7. A good basement and garage with a car lift.

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    1. Re:Keep it simple but useful. by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      3-phase for what? Few people have any use for more energy than 240 volt can supply. The primary reason for getting 480-volt service has always been to run a welder. These days, 120 and 240 volt wire welders can do just about anything that a crackerbox 480 could ever do. For the price in service, I would think it cheaper in the long run to just buy a diesel powered Lincoln welder, than to pay for 480-volt service. And, the diesel welder has the advantage of a built-in generator for when the power goes out!

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    2. Re:Keep it simple but useful. by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      3-phase 400V (230 to ground) is standard here. Spreading the load over three phases means that the neutral current is kept low. Kitchen stoves are also working better on 400V.

      1-phase can really suck since a high neutral current can result in a ground current as well and that can play games with stuff like TV antennas and a lot of other things.

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  76. Not so high tech... by HockeyPuck · · Score: 1

    A central vacuum...

    A whole house fan. The one I put in uses server fans and has motorized baffle to seal off the vent in the winter (to keep warm air from going into the attic). It uses less power than my TV and is amazingly quiet. Most of us remember the attic fans that sound like helicopters. I have a 1700sqft house and if it's cooler outside than inside, like in the summer evenings, I can cool down the whole house in about 10minutes. Just remember to open up a few windows, otherwise you could be pulling dirt in through any cracks or ash from the fireplace.

  77. ETHERNET EVERYWHERE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given the bandwidth of Ethernet, I can't imagine it ever not being enough. Maybe when teleportation devices are invented, more bandwidth will be needed. So, for the next 20 years, it is probably a nice thing to have if you can put it in.

    I wish I had one now near my entertainment console instead of relying on wifi right now.

  78. Dome construction. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1
    1. Monolithic Dome construction.
    2. Passivhaus energy guidelines.
    3. Solar Closet to store heat for the winter.
    4. Radiant floors.
    5. Utility closet in the dead center of the house for wiring with conduit running to it.
    6. The best R-value windows I could find.
    7. PEX water distribution with a distribution block so any water can be shut off without the whole house
    8. Solar panels to cover 2x what I anticipate using.
  79. Mr Fusion by jittles · · Score: 1

    Well it's 2015 now, you should just run out and buy a Mr Fusion portable fusion generator. That way you never have to buy power from the grid again.

  80. Old tech first! by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

    Build with concrete. Dig deep, to put most, or even all of your home underground. Some wise guy posted about lawns up above. I say, plant your lawn on top of your house. Heating and cooling are minimal, and there is virtually no maintenance on the structure. You're safe from tornadoes, and safe from flooding unless you build in a flood plain. A few solar panels, and there's no need to have the electric company come out to hook you up to the grid!

    Oh, great thing about the concrete shell of your home. You can use lots of rebar, and put mesh everywhere. Great faraday cage thing - it will help to keep the NSA from spying inside your home.

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    1. Re:Old tech first! by bkmoore · · Score: 1

      Sounds like an old ICBM silo.

  81. Easy one. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    A Kohler San Tropez Bidet.

    Because I'm worth it.

    http://www.us.kohler.com/us/ca...

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    1. Re:Easy one. by dj245 · · Score: 1

      A Kohler San Tropez Bidet.

      Because I'm worth it.

      http://www.us.kohler.com/us/ca...

      Why would you go for that when the Toshiba SCS-T160 is far cheaper and can be installed in a US home for $30 in parts (excluding the electrical outlet)?

      I rarely use the water spray, but the heated seat and no-slam lid are very nice.

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    2. Re:Easy one. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Why would you go for that when the Toshiba SCS-T160 [amazon.com] is far cheaper and can be installed in a US home [instructables.com] for $30 in parts (excluding the electrical outlet)?

      I rarely use the water spray, but the heated seat and no-slam lid are very nice.

      Wait, a heated seat? You're supposed to sit on them?

      Then how do you wash out your socks and undies?

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  82. Dovin Basal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A dovin basal to repel telemarketers and other undesirables and to suck up the mess my kids make into a black hole trash can.

  83. Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert, has some input by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert, was building his place, he blogged about ideas on a number of occasions. He also came back with what worked.

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/102627977656/house-ideas-that-worked

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/102544476806/home-ideas

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/102544294651/things-you-need-in-a-new-house

    Worth the read.

    1. Re:Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert, has some input by jdharm · · Score: 1

      I'll second the 'no hallways' and 'eliminate unnecessary rooms' principle. My house is only 800sq ft, but 400 sq ft is a combination kitchen/living room/foyer and the other 400sq ft are doors off of that main room - two bedrooms, bathroom, mechanical room/pantry/laundry. Everyone is scandalized by how small it is...until they visit. Then they all say, 'Wow, this is plenty of room.' They all leave wishing their house wasn't so big. All of them. Every. Single. One.

  84. Shielding, networking, energy source, windows by TrentTheThief · · Score: 1

    I want:

    100% RF and Thermal shielding.

    Fiber LAN

    Ultrabattery/Ultracapacitor energy storage fed by solar and geothermal.

    LCD windows (electrically controlled opacity)

    Real voice control, not set phrases.

  85. Future Proofing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Put in Large PVC tubes going to each wall in each room.
    You can then run whatever wires etc you want into them easily.
    Cat 5 today Fiber Optic tomorrow, Carbon Nanotubes next year.

  86. Everything is LEDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The floor, the walls, everything.

  87. What I'd want. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here is what I'd want, if money weren't an option. Some not necessarily "tech".

    Solar water heating with a canvas-like thing to roll over it to prevent overheating, along with other safety procedures.
    If possible, combined with the solar water heating, the regulated kind where you can have it go to like 190 degrees and mix with cold water.
    Solar panels.
    Manual lights with an option to speak them on or off. Rocker light switches.
    Network cable in every room. At least two per room.
    4 coaxial per room. Think cable TV, pay satellite, FTA satellite, and maybe for a security system.
    Maybe RCA-type cables in each room.
    Heated floors.
    Central air with zone heating, but also with the ability to do forced air heating.
    Wiring for security cameras just in case you want to hook them up in the future.
    A couple phone lines in each room. Not for two devices, but if you need to have two separate services for some reason.
    If legal, rainwater collector for toilet and possibly washing machine.

  88. Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Robots.

  89. Reuse water for garden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We currently have two compartments in the Kitchen sink. One compartment we are using it to saving water from washing vegetable, washing hands....

    We are transferring that water for our garden via a siphoning hose. It would be nice to have a build-in pipe and valve. Divert some water to Garden when ever you feel like to save some water. This should help with California drought.

    Ray
    www.kingstarusa.com

  90. ethernet everywhere by josepha48 · · Score: 1

    I know most people still don't use phone lines, but I would keep phone lines in every room, with ethernet also in every room. I would do coax cable everywhere also setup so that it would be easy to either add cable tv or satellite tv in any room. I would renforce some walls, as I live in a quake zone, I would want to mount an 80" tv on a wall and not have to worry about it falling down in a big quake. I would set the house up to be wifi friendly as well. So that if someone wanted to know the optimal place to put this wifi devices they could, maybe a wifi shelf that was located high, had a place for the cable modem or dsl modem or whatever and plugs with power surge protection built in. Now to the real tech. Smart thermostat. Something that could sense when I am home, maybe the thermostat was connected to sensors in the door that knew when the door opened and close and had heat sensors for detecting living beings in the room. Thermosensors? That way when noone is home the thermostat could automatically go to a low setting or turn off. I would add in smart heat / cool routing. Sensors to know which room you were in most often and allow you the option of having those rooms kept warm or cool at the temperature you liked and then other rooms that may not be used as much kept cooler. So if you spend all day in the office and use a particular bathroom, the tv room and bedrooms would not be heated up. I would add in smart appliances in the kitchen. Autosensing range hood that could adjust speed of fan based on what was cookiing and how much steam / smoke was coming from the stove. An overn that would quickly warm up and could sense when things were taken out of the oven so that the oven was never left on by accident. If the oven was empty for 15 minutes or something adjustable then it automatically shut itself off. Smart refrigerator that could track what was in it by bar code and tell when things would expire. Option to turn it off or not use that feature. Door and window sensors that could be connected to some central system to show when any window or door was open. This could be setup to tell the heat/cooling system to turn off if someone opens a window for more than x minutes to save energy. Setup for centralized IoT. Solar built in with the possibility of wind turbine.

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  91. Zero/low energy footprint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd build in as much as possible now to achieve a zero energy footprint. If you live in a hot climate, here's what I'd do.

    1. Starting with the roof, I'd opt for a galvanized aluminum roof. The roof will outlast you and reflect the most heat of any roof type, saving you money on cooling. You'l get similar performance and more style with a light colored tile roof, albeit for more money and you'll need to have your roof engineered for the extra weight. A good third and cheaper choice would be an "energy star" asphalt shingle roof. Won't cost much more than a conventional asphalt shingle roof but will still get you good reflectance, but it won't last as long as the first two.

    While we're talking roof, hopefully your site is situated such that you can have a large area of your roof that faces south so that you can install solar panels optimally, otherwise you'll need to spend 25 - 30% more to install enough panels to cover your electric usage.

    2. Insulated concrete form construction. You'll get poured in place walls (possibly "tilt walls") with closed cell foam sprayed insulation. Super energy efficient. You can dress up the outside with stucco or if you prefer the look of siding, you can do that. If you go for siding, choose "Hardie board" or a similar concrete board material that will, again, outlive you. If you choose stucco, look into elastomeric paint, which provides a coating that is nearly impervious to water and also fills in tiny cracks,

    3. Triple pane Winguard windows from PGT. You'll get super quiet windows that are very energy efficient and also burglar resistant due to them having one layer that is hurricane glass and which can withstand a 2x4 travelling at 120 MPH or a small caliber bullet. I have them and love them. They also sell excellent French doors with the same glazing.

    4. Heat pump AC unit with a variable speed "scroll compressor". You can get SEER as high as 24 with these units.

    5. Try to use cement board materials, PVC or fiberglass for any exterior surface. I'm in Florida and anything wood that is outside will rot. Anything steel will rust. My front door is fiberglass and I love it. It looks like wood, but it's super strong and won't rot. It's also filled with foam insulation. Any exterior trim should be made from a rot proof material. It may cost more now, but will save you later.

    6. Moen ioDigital shower unit. It's like fly by wire, but for your shower. You can have multiple presets and program in the temperature and pressure you want your shower to be. Mine has a rain shower head, a handheld sprayer and four body jets. Remote control is optional :)

    7. LED strip lights mounted for indirect light. It not only looks better and gives you more usable light, it may even save you money compared to installing dozens of recessed can downlights.

  92. OpenSprinkler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just ordered one for myself. Should be a great use for the BBB.
    https://opensprinkler.com/product/opensprinkler-beagle/

  93. cat6 or cat7 avoid fiberglass by sims+2 · · Score: 1

    cat6/cat6a at minimum cat7/cat7a if available if you live there long enough you will eventually need the speed of a better cable 10gbe should last you a while

    also conduits to every box and never ever use fiberglass insulation its cheap suuure but you don't really want to be scratching for the next couple months every time you have to do any work in it do you? don't have that with any other insulation type

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    1. Re:cat6 or cat7 avoid fiberglass by DriveDog · · Score: 1

      Yes, Cat6 will be useful for a long time to come. But... conduit and/or good manifold access is a much higher priority. No matter what wiring you put in today, it won't be right for something you want in some future year.

  94. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Interesting

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  95. Best of breed technologies... by firewrought · · Score: 1

    Mesh Technology - Lets you enjoy an enclosed porch when the bugs are out.
    Hardware/Software Separation - You'll get along with your spouse better if you have separate bathrooms (particularly toilets) and separate closets.
    Social Media Integration - Parties revolve around the kitchen, so ideally have nice flow between the kitchen and (as applicable) the living room, porch, and dining room. In my case, I really don't want guest helping with the cooking or dishes, so give me a design that fences them off with a bar-top counter, but keep it open enough that I can peripherally participate in whatever's happening in those other rooms.
    Dedicated I/O Path - Your pantry should be between your kitchen and garage/carport, so unloading is fast and easy. Also include a small desk and file cabinet for processing mail and keeping keys/wallets/purses out of site.
    Security-Hardened Design - Minimize number of entrances; ensure perimeter and walks can be fully lit; install alarm system; include tornado shelter (if applicable).
    Non-Paged Plan - This is VERY expensive, but you'll appreciate the absence of stairs if you spend your retirement years here.
    DRY Principles - Make sure site has adequate drainage, that gutters are clog-free or otherwise easy to maintain, that bathrooms can be well-ventilated, that your roof isn't too complicated, and that you don't have a pool. Moisture is the enemy!

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  96. a new wive by fredan · · Score: 1

    'nough sad.

  97. DC electrical system by dlenmn · · Score: 1

    I'd add some kind of DC electrical system. AC power is fine for moving electricity over long distances, powering motors, heaters, etc. However, all electronics need DC. Life without AC->DC adapters on every damn piece of electronics would be great. (Yes, maybe you'd need some external DC->DC adapters, but lots of things already can be powered by a USB port -- meaning 5 V.)

    AC is especially dumb for solar: you have DC power source (a solar panel) which you then turn into AC power which gets converted back to DC for your electronics, LED lighting, etc. What a waste!

    There have been some recently work on in-home DC power systems, although I haven't followed it closely (since I'm in no danger of owning a home soon).

  98. Simple. by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    Line your entire house with NSA-proof tinfoil.

  99. Margaret Brown (Titanic) House in Denver by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Preserved those old sevant bell-ringers, original wires, now circuits. Had the back servant and front guest staircases. First floor entertaining, 2nd floor bed and bath, 3rd floor jids and servants. Only about 3,000 square feet.

  100. DC Power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sure you're trying to build 21st Century McMansion, but converting your power over to DC instead of AC would allow you to save 40% on your power consumption by bypassing the inverters from solar panels (DC) to an AC system and then back to DC in nearly every power adapter. Higher energy systems like AC and ovens need to stay AC, but maybe 3 phase. Probably a nightmare, but think of the house as a energy sipping spaceship. Passive energy storage is also very important.

  101. Hybrid electrical system by spywhere · · Score: 1

    Your new home should have a 12 VDC electrical system supplied by batteries (charged by solar panels) to run lights, fans, and anything else that does not require AC line voltage.
    This will avoid the 20% losses creating AC from stored battery power, and will greatly decrease your reliance on the local electric company.

    1. Re:Hybrid electrical system by mi · · Score: 1

      There aren't many appliances sold today, that would accept the DC input directly. Ripping the converting power-supply out from each one to wire it directly into your DC-circuit will void warranties and ultimately cost a lot more than the "20% losses".

      I do find the ability to charge USB-devices without the annoying "black bricks", but that's easily achieved by simply replacing the power outlets with something like this (I have four such in my house already).

      If he simply runs CAT6 (or better) Ethernet cables to every room, he can later use some of them as simple DC-electricity conductors...

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  102. Various nice to have things by sjbe · · Score: 1

    In no particular order:

    1) Whole house wired for gigabit ethernet, stereo, coax, fiber, phone and hdmi
    2) Well organized wiring closet (see item 1)
    3) Well insulated
    4) Solar array or wind turbine with battery bank
    5) Cable trays/runs/oversized conduit to useful locations to make updating wiring easy
    6) 5V DC USB on outlets
    7) Two ovens, well designed pantry
    8) Zoned temperature controls
    9) Natural gas or propane powered backup generator
    10) Useful out-buildings
    11) Tankless water heater
    12) House designed to minimize need for heating/cooling
    13) Attached green house for gardening
    14) Workshop with adequate power, shop air, dust collection and tools
    15) Garage with extra car bays and car lift
    16) Theater room with projector/huge TV and easily updated wiring and equipment closet
    17) Water pipes to gardening locations if gardening outside.
    18) Low maintenance yard. You do NOT need a lush green grass lawn that requires endless mowing.

  103. Nitpicks by crow · · Score: 1

    We had a central vacuum when I was a kid, and we hated it. The best use for a central vacuum system is to rip out the vacuum and use all the tubes as conduit for wiring. I guess that's really very much a matter of opinion. In any case, be sure you test one out before insisting on putting one in. I would much rather spend my money on a good Dyson (though I understand some people not wanting to lug around that much weight or relocate the bulk of the noise).

    You also missed it on the power in the garage. You want 50A, not 30A. You can download the recommended installation guide from Tesla for a NEMA 14-50; use that and you should be good for anything. It's always better to overspec and then not need it than to underspec and have to go fix it.

    Another item to put in the garage is in-wall wires for the garage door sensors. If you're putting in a garage door opener, it requires wires from infrared sensors to the motor so that it stops closing if something is in the way. It's simple enough to put those wires in the wall if you do it first.

    Speaking of garage doors, you can get some really great openers. My in-laws got some professional Lift-Master openers that are absolutely silent. That's nothing like what you get when you buy your own at Lowes Depot. (They even have some that attach directly to the torsion rod if you have that kind of door, so there's nothing overhead.)

    1. Re:Nitpicks by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      We had a central vacuum when I was a kid, and we hated it. The best use for a central vacuum system is to rip out the vacuum and use all the tubes as conduit for wiring. I guess that's really very much a matter of opinion. In any case, be sure you test one out before insisting on putting one in.

      Agree that you have to try one before you get it. (My previous house had it.) I love the relocated sound, it's a lot quieter (still a little noise due to all the air motion, though). The newer ones have power-attachments available for carpeting. My builder's central vac guy gave cheap-o attachments. I bought new ones from amazon.com afterwards.

      You also missed it on the power in the garage. You want 50A, not 30A. You can download the recommended installation guide from Tesla for a NEMA 14-50; use that and you should be good for anything. It's always better to overspec and then not need it than to underspec and have to go fix it.

      LOL. I HAVE a Tesla. Didn't realize it was 50A (or just forgot). You're absolutely correct.

      Speaking of garage doors, you can get some really great openers. My in-laws got some professional Lift-Master openers that are absolutely silent. That's nothing like what you get when you buy your own at Lowes Depot. (They even have some that attach directly to the torsion rod if you have that kind of door, so there's nothing overhead.)

      Agree about the garage doors. I have the Lift-Master as well and it's fantastically quiet.

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  104. Solar & Tesla Home Batteries by JustChrisM · · Score: 1

    If I were building a house today I'd seriously look at a solar install, and (when they are available) enough of the recently announced Tesla Home batteries to keep me basically power independent.

  105. Ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Automate everything - but stick to a unified product so that it all works together.

    Blinds \ Curtains
    Lighting
    Door Bell
    Cameras
    Electronic locks
    Garage door
    sensors in Laundry area for water
    Smoke and Fire
    CO Detectors
    Ethernet runs to key areas (TV \ Kitchen appliances \ bedroom \ Back Porch) (wireless only does so much)
    Setup a proper battery backup per circuit at the electrical box ...

  106. +1 for grey water by cve · · Score: 1

    Why waste the rinse water from your shower and washer when you can use it to water your lawn?

  107. Central Vacuum, Multi-zone central surround, hdmi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Definitely opt for central vacuum! We have it in our two year old house and it's awesome! The upstairs is half hardwood (kitchen/dining/entryway/mudroom) and half carpet (upstairs living room, sunroom, 2 normal sized bedrooms and then the master bedroom). There are floor-level vacuum ports in the kitchen island and wall mounted "plug-in" style wall ports where you attach the vacuum hose for carpet. The main vacuum unit is located in the garage so it's much quieter than running a vacuum indoors. It's pretty sweet because you can just sweep/dust the hardwoods directly into the floor port and vacuuming the carpet is as easy as pulling the wall attachment out of the closet. My only advice is to also buy the optional hose-winder-thingamajig. We just throw it all into the closet atm bc that's all it's used for but it would be nice to have it neatly wound on a spool.

    Also, as others have said, definitely run cat6 in conduit to each room. You want the option to swap it out later as tech improves. You should also plan ahead where your primary TVs will go and have HDMI cables ran from behind the TVs to wherever you are locating your media recievers/sat boxes/game consoles/etc. Our downstairs living room TV is mounted above the fireplace with the central sound/cable box/etc located in a special cabinet built into the wall for just that purpose. It looks really clean and is overall pretty handy but it would have been better if the builder also setup the HDMI cables.Nothing worse than moving in only to discover that you have to shop for a 50' HDMI cable and then pull it through the conduit before you can watch TV.

    Lastly, if you're going to install central sound, get a system that's capable of dual/multi-zone output. Each room in our house has a little controller mounted on the wall that's about the same size and look as a light switch (with and LCD output). I can play audio from the same source in every room or I can play movie surround sound downstairs while playing music from radio station "A" for the outdoor patio speakers and music from radio station "B" in the garage. All from the same receiver. There isn't a whole lot of magic for that as far as the speaker wiring is concerned but expect to shell out at least $2000+ for a *quality* receiver that's capable of multi-zone output.

  108. Extra space by crow · · Score: 1

    Lots of good advice in other posts, so I won't reiterate everything.

    The one thing I wish our house had was more space. We could use another linen closet. We could use a pantry for the kitchen--especially now that we do a lot of real cooking. Having higher ceilings would be a huge benefit. I would *really* like to have an extra half-car space on the side of the garage for the lawn mower and bikes.

    I'm very glad there was a weird closet in the basement of our house which is now our wiring closet. I'm sure others have talked about that, though.

  109. Media connectivity consideration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't worry about future proofing wires or fiber in your walls rather consider running conduit in the walls so that the media du jour can be easily changed out!

  110. Not Cool But by crackspackle · · Score: 1

    Think about what it will sell for and how much you want to throw away. It is your house so it's worth paying something for comfort but just remember most of those cool toys have little or no resale value when you go to sell it. And remember the cost is usually greater than the estimate by a wide margin. Were it me again and yes I've been there, I'd sacrifice instead for things people want, like extra bathrooms and storage. If money's no object, well then let us know how it goes.

  111. Duct Baffles and Ceiling Speakers by cve · · Score: 1

    If you're using a forced air HVAC system in a larger house, baffles are a must. It's great to have the ability to zone off your house. Run speaker cable to the ceilings in any room you'd ever possibly listen to music in. Take pictures of the drops. Add speakers as needed.

  112. energy efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. passivhaus. or kinda passivhaus
    2. depending on your climate, but heat pump heating and cooling. just air source if possible, no geothermal
    3. good roof for photovoltaics
    4. your own well
    5. plenty of !empty! pipes in the house. the cable you will need in 10years is not in the stores yet.

    Vajk

  113. Floor heating?, air, sound quality! by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

    I like the concept of floor heating, even possibly electricity based - it seems it would fit well with strong insulation and minimal use of heating.

    Air flow is a big issue. the house (or one story flat!) should have good airflow.That's one of the bigger issue with crappy small housing, or any housing for that matter. Stale air makes feel like shit.
    A room should even be dedicated to washing clothes and shit like sheets, blankets, towels. just room to have them dry out, and dry out conveniently and timely. wow!
    I don't care much if the house has to use brick walls, or concrete, or compressed hay and old tires etc. and passive, solar blah blah as long as it's thick enough for cheap enough. Matching the 100 to 300 year old houses in your area might be good though I have no idea what it costs.

    So, heat flow and air flow are a must but don't leave out the flow of sound waves!
    Room sizes, shapes and materials ought to be mathematically optimized for sound quality and isolation. That's a huge and permanent upgrade for whatever speakers you're using and that's one of the things that will be still there 100 years down the road and can't be replaced.
    I should be able to host illegal rogue concerts in the main room (even if not having that many or that big other rooms)

  114. Raised floors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The entire place would have raised floors.

  115. Water too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not sure where you live, but you should also consider water recycling (not just an easy yard). Its fairly easy to set up a graywater system from an upper floor to a lower floor bathroom toilet.

  116. Radiant heating/cooling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or if your going to do forced air make some computer controlled baffles so you only cool/ heat the rooms you need when nessasary.

  117. Toilet Clippy. by jddj · · Score: 1

    "You look like you're trying to drop a steamer! Would you like me to help?"

  118. Not so new by DriveDog · · Score: 1

    Embed tubing in floors to support radiant heating from whatever source (solar, earth-source heat pump, basement fusion reactor...).

    Conduit/guides in every wall to allow for easy installation later of whatever wiring/small diameter pipes might be wanted.

    Structure built with security in mind... strong frames around exterior doors and windows, exterior doors that open outwards, upper windows not easily reachable from the ground, ground floor/basement windows with some structure (bars, or very narrow openings, perhaps), consider best locations for security cameras.

    Metallic layer in exterior walls to thwart through-wall imaging devices.

    Even if every room is heated/cooled without forced air, you'll still want a good ventilation system. Homes without that get stuffy.

  119. Architecture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But a proper stuff which is hard to come by and even more difficult for the uninitiated to identify which architects are top notch. I don't know of any but presumably there are good architects in the US?

  120. Make it easy to upgrade. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Technology will change. You will want to run new (whatever) around the house at some point. Fiber or whatever. Run flexible plastic conduit (around here, it's called "Smurf tubing") from a central point, to the various signal boxes around the house. Today, Cat 6. Tomorrow, 100GB fiber. 10 or 50 years from now, who knows. But by having a conduit run from a central location to each box, you can choose when to upgrade each of them, repeatedly, with nothing more sophisticated than a fish tape.

    I ran Cat 5 and RG6/U around the house when I built it, because that was the standard at the time. Same idea, all ran to a central location, but, I stapled the wires to the structure at the usual spacing, so it wouldn't move around. So now when Cat 5 is replaced by Cat 6 or fiber, I'm stuck. When RG6/U gets replaced by whatever is next for video, I'm likewise stuck. But if I'd run smurf tubing around the house, I'd be able to yoink out the old stuff, and upgrade to the new stuff, whenever I want.

    Posting as A/C because I haven't set this laptop up for /. apparently.

  121. Wiring/water/electric conduits, fire sprinklers,.. by guruevi · · Score: 1

    Make sure that everything is up to code today and have water/waste/electric installed and ready to go everywhere. That way you don't have to comply with some future local ordinance regarding new wiring and do a lot of overhauling. Same goes for fire sprinklers, make sure they're done or at least ready to be done in all spaces regardless of occupation. You never know when you want to renovate that attic or garage into a room and then the city comes a-knocking on your door for an inspection and you have to re-do things.

    The rest is simple, have conduits everywhere you can think of for electric, low voltage, water and heat, at least one per room. If you ever want to have a new bathroom or add a toilet in the next 20 years, make sure your existing piping is sufficient (use a 3/4" supply to the space instead of tapping a 1/2" pipe in the basement).

    I would also use hot water circulation-type radiator heat instead of forced air, it's a lot cheaper, make sure they have valves too that can bypass so you can heat only specific spaces. Make sure your basement doors are wide enough to allow for that newfangled heater to get through as well as your furniture. Nothing worse than seeing your contractor skimped on the doors and installed the minimum width ones when your couches can't get in.

    Don't skimp on the financial stuff, make sure you have title insurance and homeowners insurance etc. You may have to spend 20-30k extra on the build and paperwork but if you can't afford that, you can't afford the house.

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  122. I would install Samsung SNF-8010 FishEye cameras by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We use lots of them at work and they are absolutely fantastic. Just one of these inside at the right spot can cover all the entrances of many home designs. They can record to internal MicroSD and/or network shares simultaneously. They offer free software to manage them even though it's not really necessary. Plus, they are powered over PoE which brings up another thing I would do: run Cat7 Ethernet all over the place.

  123. Use conduit by mark6509 · · Score: 1

    I have a house that was wired by a geek when it was built 20 years ago. At the time, CAT-3 and CAT-5 were state-of-the art, so the house is wired great for those. Central control cabinet in a closet where all the wires come together, it's great. The problem is, that cabling is old enough to be worthless now, and because of the way it was installed, there's no way to use the old cables to pull new cabling through the walls without opening the walls up.

    You won't know what kind of cabling (if any) you'll want to add onto the house in another 5-10 years, so my advice is whatever you decide to put in the walls, use conduit. Your future self will thank you once CAT-6 is old news but there's a new power/data/display/who-knows standard that you'd like to wire in.

  124. Built 2 houses - have some faves by alphad0g · · Score: 1

    Not all new tech is as good as it sounds - what I would do and why:

    1. Hot water - forget the instant gas fired tankless - why? You have no hot water if power is out. Also, they are poor if you need a volume of water. A high efficiency tank is great. Add to that a hot water circulating loop - you can't do this with a tankless system. Adding the loop with a tank system gives you hot water in one second instead of waiting for all the cooled water between tank and faucet to be expelled. Add a timer-circulating pump, and you are not circulating hot water at night when you don't need it. All old tech that works better then new tech. If you want to go tankless, then spend the money to put one near each cluster of bathrooms, or you will waste water waiting on hot water.

    2. Natural gas heat - if you live in a colder climate. Heat pumps just pump out luke warm air. But if you can go dual fuel, and use a heat pump sometimes and natural gas others, you have best of both world.As others mentioned, radiant heat is a great choice, but you then have to install forced air for AC.

    3. Some kind of air-exchanger that uses the exhaust air to pre-condition the incoming air - i have not found anything for residential I like in this area. But, if you have a tight house, and you have various exhaust fans or central vacuum, then you should have a way to supply fresh air.

    4. Bath fans - I like fantech brand - the motors are remote mounted, and they are super quiet

    5. Central Vac - I can't live without it, but I have a pile of dogs and cats and no carpet. Check out something "newer" called "Hide-a-hose" - i have not tried it yet, but plan to in next house. No more hose to store and get out. It stores in the pipes in the wall.

    6. Shower Pan and walls - check out Kerdi - I will never do a bathroom without it again.

    7. Quad electric receptacles at the night stands in bedrooms and kitchen counters.

    8. Cat X (whatever is the Ethernet standard at the time)

    9. Network rack and patch panel - I have it in the basement - all home runs of Cat 5e and coax to this location.

    10. AC outlet in closet/pantry - you want your wireless router in the center of the house - why not in a closet. Also, you never know where you may want to plug in a flashlight or something.

  125. Almost certainly too late to the game... by marphod · · Score: 1

    But I've put a lot of thought into this, myself. On the other hand, I've got an appointment in a few minutes, so this is going to be somewhat disjointed.

    Environmentally friendly heating and cooling. This will depend on your location, to some extent, but includes Geothermal for heating and hot water, subterranean air conditioning, solar water heat, evaporative cooling, self-tinting windows, and adaptive exterior walls to adjust for light and temperature conditions. Also an insulated thermal mass that can be used to store waste heat in the day and be extracted at night.

    Exterior:
    An asymmetric roof, tilted towards the south (in the norther hemisphere). Lots of solar panels; connected to the aforementioned thermal mass to capture excess heat. If you live in an appropriate part of the world, add non-directional wind turbines on the northern edge of the roof. Under the solar panels, copper or stainless steel roofing tiles.

    Gutters designed to feed into an underground storage pool for grey water. Use the (cleaned) grey water for your heat exchange.

    Interior:
    Doors and interior walls designed so sections of the house can be made environmentally independent, with environmental controls that are at least that specific. Interior ductwork for HVAC. All wiring done via conduit with regularly placed, pre-placed pull strings. Every room on its own electric circuit (if not more frequently). Extra-deep outlet boxes, so adding future tech will be easier. Outlets every 6-8 feet. USB power outlets in every room. .Wired ethernet in every room, with a switch panel near the circuit panel. Coax pulled to every room. (Well, the maybe not bathrooms for the last 2).

    Wallboard and paint that doesn't significantly interfere with radio frequencies. (Fuck you, Horsehair plaster).

    Doors and passageways that all meet ADA standards. At least 2 entrances to the ground floor that do not have stairs or significant thresholds. Extra closets placed on every floor such that they could be converted into an elevator should there be need. (that is, one on top of another).

    All plumbing done at least 8" from an exterior wall and inside an insulated, interior wall or bulkhead (fuck you, burst pipes).

    Mixed height work surfaces in the kitchen. Main-floor or bedroom-floor washer and drier. Open floorplans. Exterior door in/very near the kitchen. Composter near the kitchen's exterior door. a yard that is wheelchair/stroller accessible. Raised growing beds near the kitchen for vegetables.

    There's certainly more, but I got to run to the doctors.

  126. Ballisticrete, solar tech, better future proofing by bjdevil66 · · Score: 1

    #1 (hands down) - Ballisticrete -- I'd put it on the outside of any new home I may build. Ever since we've gone to stucco or other lighter, cheaper, more energy conserving materials, we've gone away from physical projectile protection that mud/adobe, logs, and brick used to provide. Ballisticrete solves that problem. 1" stops small arms fire, and 2" stops just about everything short of a 50 cal.

    #2 - Solar lighting for rooms with no windows -- I have a Solatube in a 2nd bathroom, and it is great for savings and ambiance.

    #3 - Solar attic fans running like a server tower -- With water lines in newer homes going in the attic in AZ (vs. copper in the ground), the tap gets DAMN hot in the summer - leading to a lot of wasted water from the tap. Solar attic fans that kick on above a certain temp and can be disabled in cooler seasons (to preserve the heat), and run like old computer towers (pulling in cool and pushing out hot), would save that water - and cut your cooling costs.

    #4 - Fiber + Cat6/7 to every room. (I already have a central networking box for all networking and cable - an absolute must - but I only put in Cat5E.)

    Less fancy "tech" that is just as important:

    #5 - More internal storage/pantry space in the right places - A big, internal, temp-controlled food storage area (vs. out in the hot garage) is a must. And why would I need a 4th or 5th bedroom that's just going to become an unorganized collection spot for junk?
    #6 - Longer garage for more utility; If possible, a 3rd car garage spot.
    #7 - Grow more usable trees (fruit vs. ornamental trees for looks). Cut down on grass significantly.

  127. Re:Energy Conservation tax incentives by ClayDowling · · Score: 1

    I hadn't considered the tax side of it, but I dislike retrofitting houses, so I'd rather get it out of the way up front. Also, we're playing in fantasy land with imaginary money, so I'm not really thinking about up front costs, and more about how convenient this stuff makes my life over the long term.

  128. analog multi-room stereo by bkmoore · · Score: 1

    I go home to relax and unwind, and would like to have is a nice old-school, multi-room analog audio setup. Nothing digital. The other thing would be a good antenna for running a HAM radio. Maybe I'm getting too old, but I find myself caring less and less about being online.

  129. Infrastructure by silas_moeckel · · Score: 1

    1 Conduit lots of it all back to a utilities room. Fill with cat 6 or better today. Your going to want one end point per wall in a room plus some ceiling/wall mounts for Wifi.
    2 Home automation, zwave has gotten cheap but pick your poison of standards. While I do not find colors that useful being able to have different temp whites is gear mid winter etc. Remember that LED are flexible in placement indirect lighting is often much more pleasant. If your just looking to prep the main stumbling block tends to be small electrical work boxes and lack of a common through the box.
    3 Insulation if you have the cash closed cell foam along with an air to air heat exchanger.
    4 Heating, geothermal it's power use is electric so ties well with solar. Radiant floor is the nicest.
    5 Hot Water, geothermal ng/propane backup
    6 Power, pretty much put up as big a solar array as you can get on the roof, Couple this with a propane/ng gen set. Propane is the only thing you can store locally for an extended period. When they stop buying power back and retail rates plan space for a battery.
    7 Kitchen ng/propane except for the oven.
    8 Cooling, geothermal. Make sure that the system can de/humidify the house without heating/cooling it.
    9 Electrical, AFCI's are generally code use them wherever possible. Insure that as much as feasible is home run back to the panel. Install more than the code minimum outlets. For example my desk area was run with 4 30a 110v feeds, It was trivial to replace one of them with a 240v 30a and I watched my heaviest power consumption are drop 5% so less heat to cool etc etc.
    10 CCTV pretty much just more cat 6 going to enough points so you get 360 coverage with overlap. Some people like camera's in their home I'm not a fan.

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  130. Re:I wouldn't by Jack9 · · Score: 1

    > 15 years ago your recommendations would have been things like CAT5e drops in multiple spots in every room

    Last year I did something similar to that. Why wouldn't you? The drops are separate from the hosted technology.

    Coax, Ethernet, power, ducting, double pane glass in vinyl frames, electronic outer door locks, cameras, inset LED ceiling lights, tankless water heater (if you live in temperate parts of the US and need the space), solar panels depending on a number of concerns that affect cost-benefit.

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  131. This is what I did... by used2win32 · · Score: 1

    We built a two story farm home several years ago and I 'tried' to plan ahead. Hard with tech, but I tried.

    The center closet is a wiring closet. Switches, Access points, wiring points, etc. The top half if hardware, the bottom half is standard closet. All items are fanless and there are louvers on the door for air cooling. Heat has never been an issue.

    I pre-wired the house with multiple RG-6 cables for our satellite tv (We live away from town) with multiple outlets in the rooms
    I wired the house with CAT 6 cables
    (I wish I could have done fiber back then)
    Outlets in the room alternate circuit breakers. If a breaker trips, only half of the outlets lose power.
    Built in several wire paths for surround sound setup. If the furniture is rearranged, the speakers can move and there are no cables running along the floor or walls
    There are speaker lines run through the house, the 'main' stereo system can provide entertainment to several rooms

    The walls have several wiring boxes on them, but it is SO WORTH IT.

    We do have a small home 'windmill' for power generation. It is pre wired to the well pump for water in a power outage, the refrigerator and our four freezers (home grown beef, pork, goat, chicken, turkey, lamb plus halibut and salmon from fishing) and frozen veggies can be connected when needed. We have a "clean" burning wood stove for heat and cooking. Outside lighting around the house and paths around the barn are solar powered low voltage lighting runs

    Good Luck

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  132. Off Grid by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

    I am a massive fan of flipping the bird to my local power company. Thus I would make huge sacrifices to go completely off grid. I have fewer and fewer devices that demand 110 or 220 so having 110 plugs all over the house is something I could live without. I am fairly certain that nearly every device that I have could happily have either 12v or 5v supplied and run just fine. There could be one common corridor in the house that provided 110 for those things that demanded it.

    But in my ideal universe the fewer utilities that I could have the better. If there was a way to get around gas and water then I would be wildly happy.

    I just have zero interest in giving a chunk of my money to a bunch of shareholders and overpaid executives ever month.

  133. forward looking design by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

    The biggest complaint I've had about my homes is that they weren't built in a forward looking fashion.

    All of the wiring was designed and installed in a fashion which requires the house to be gutted to upgrade it to code.
    Some of the materials used were designed to be replaced or fail (eg. cheap orangeberg sewage utility plumbing), with difficulty in replacing.
    No foresight was given to the durability of the structure (eg. having to replace the roof every couple years due to hail) in terms of costly maintenance and time.

    So for my list:

    * The structure would be a large monolithic dome, for durability.
    * The entire structure would be built with 'false walls' between the living space and the exterior wall(s) to allow for easy access to eg. power runs.
    * There would be a raised floor, to allow for easy access to...
    * Heating, which would be run in a similar fashion as electric, eg. under the floor water heat, provided by eg. pex tubing.
    * Since the structure is basically a large faraday cage, fibre would be run to an external structure to allow for outdoor wireless technology expansion.
    * Solar would naturally be integrated, with the wiring put in place to allow for future expansion if necessary (both in the utility room via additional capacity on the fuse box, but also at wherever the power is generated). If Google can leave a large amount of their fibre dark to await capacity, I don't see why I can't do this with copper.
    * Several additional sub-juncture fuse boxes would be placed throughout the house - one for the kitchen, one for the garage, one for the basement. Just something small. No point in having a purely single-star power topography.
    * Solar concentrators windows/lights on the roof would assist by providing light to the house while at the same time powering solar.
    * The house would undoubtedly leverage geothermal for power (hopefully) and heating/cooling, as heat exchangers are quite efficient and monolythic domes have notably low energy cost.
    * Large windows (where appropriate) would have the newer panes which automatically dim the environment and/or can be used for projection purposes.
    * Power outlets would be placed every 5 feet along walls and counters.

    For security, I would likely install something like UniFi (ubiquiti) based cameras. I'm a fan of their power control systems as well, so those would also be used for lighting and such. I'd probably also consider using x10, simply because it offers a bit more flexibility and no lock-in.

    But then, replacing eg. in-wall power outlets is fairly straightforward.

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  134. I'd have ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    coal fires, wood burning stoves and a diesel generator to cover the numerous periods when the electricity fails.

  135. A Toshiba 4S by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshiba_4S

  136. A Mr Fusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For the times you want to get off the grid.

  137. One of these in the basement by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...

    So I could have an Xgrid cluster of these:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...

  138. what tech would i want in my house? by hypergreatthing · · Score: 1

    cat 7a in every room
    faraday cage in every room.
    biometric door locks in every room
    Solar panels with hydrogen energy storage (split water during the way, combine at night for energy).
    Underground storage for cars
    Intruder detection system
    Unlocked honeypot rear entrance for intruders
    Intruder elimination system (gun turrets, tasers and gas)
    building super structure to withstand bombs
    Underground base via elevator
    Secure wet lab
    Manufacturing setup via 3d printers
    Underground secret submarine bay
    Backup fusion reactor for power

    1. Re:what tech would i want in my house? by used2win32 · · Score: 1

      Um, wow.

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    2. Re:what tech would i want in my house? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Tell me about it. That idiot forgot to put a secondary backup fusion reactor for power. I thought we had more Star Trek fans around here.

  139. Design the roof for solar by zenbi · · Score: 1

    If you are building your own, design the roof specifically for solar panels - i.e. a large flat south facing surface. A good solar installer will help you determine the optimal mounting angle for your location. Design for it. Many existing solar installations have an unfortunate "tack-on" feel since the roofs where never designed for mounting solar panels.

  140. Access to the back of media equipment. by Mike+Van+Pelt · · Score: 1

    One thing that's on my list for if/when I ever have a custom house built (in addition to all the other good ideas here) is decide where my TV/Stereo/etc. is going to be, and have shelves for all the equipment with easy access to the rear of them via a closet, or a door in a hallway.

  141. Dildos, dude. And Kleenex dispensers. by vikingpower · · Score: 1

    One of both in each room. Without them, it's not a home.

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  142. Intelligent House by LukePiatek · · Score: 1

    NFC sensor already implanted in my hand with set of keys to open certain restricted door, garage and other things.

  143. I am building right now. by jdharm · · Score: 1

    Building with my own two hands, swinging a hammer at every nail. I have had to fight with the bank over construction details because my methods are so out of the ordinary for our area. I ended up having to get the state fire marshal to agree to come inspect my home himself before the bank would release my construction funds.

    The "new tech" I'm using isn't new at all. It is 'new' in that it is just now starting to mature as a technology, it is new to North America after being ignored for years or decades, or is just now becoming cost effective for the residential market.

    Advanced Framing - this is what the local inspectors and bank had a problem with, despite the fact that everything I did was to code (even pictured in detail in the code itself exactly as I had built it) and was published as a best practice in publications put out by the local electrical coop. Especially cool if you can afford to do it is the Larsen truss wall.

    Passivehaus quality windows from the likes of Marvin and Alpen - triple pane windows filled with noble gasses to reduce or eliminate convective coupling, films to minimize IR losses or gains, frames that isolate the surfaces on the inside of the house from those on the outside of the house with insulating materials so there is no direct path for heat.

    Residential fire suppression - There are now fire suppression sprinkler heads available designed to operate at the lower pressures of residential systems and are suitable to handle potable water. I've brought utility pressure water into the house, run it through a sprinkler in every room, and then to a pressure reducer for distribution to the house. My household supply runs by all the sprinklers first; this way there is no stagnate water in the lines possibly compromising the integrity of the heads and I know that as long as all is well with the water in the house then I have a functioning fire sprinkler system ready to spring into action. The cost was very low - a couple benjamins - for the heads, extra water pipe, and fittings, and was well worth the extra piece of mind.

    Affordable foams for insulation - I couldn't afford to go fully foam, but I used affordable XPS and polyiso panels to supplement the batt insulation I used. Foam seals the walls to minimize energy movement through the envelope.

    LED lighting and electronic ballast fluorescent with super long life bulbs for low operation costs and high ROI.

    Mini-split heat pump units for super high efficiency cooling. I'm cooling my entire house with less power than my wife's hair dryer uses. Granted, it's only 800sq ft, but pretty good even so.

    Radiant floor heat using intelligent automatic variable circulation pumps and tankless water heating units. This keeps efficiencies as close to theoretical limits as possible and increases occupant comfort to minimize use and mis-use of the heating system. Provisions have also been made to incorporate alternative heat sources at a later time such as solar collectors or gasifier.

    But the most unconventional thing I did was that I DO NOT COMPROMISE on standards and I sweat the DETAILS when everybody else just wants to shrug and say "good enough" or "that's not how we've always done it". A house is a big pile of little things and if each of the little things is "good enough" what you get is just a little off + just a little off + just a little off + just a little off + ... just a little off = house of crap.

    1. Re:I am building right now. by toonces33 · · Score: 1

      I am in complete agreement. The first thought that came to my mind is that I would like a PassivHaus.

      My wife and I have been going back and forth about where we want to retire to. I am horrified by the horrible construction quality that one gets from the normal builders. We are thinking of buying a lot somewhere and then hiring our own builder who would build the thing to our specs. But the next phase for us is to see if we can find a custom builder that can deliver on what we want with huge bonus points for anyone who has already built something along these lines. I don't want to pay so that someone else can learn on the job.

      I don't have the time/energy to build the thing myself.

  144. cat6 by maestroX · · Score: 2

    ... tied to the front door so you can open it upstairs.

  145. Monolithic Dome. by random+coward · · Score: 1

    I'd make it a Monolithic Dome

  146. What I did by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have done this to two houses.

    For those that are married, this will make sense

    In every bedroom, on every wall, I put in a 6 plate connector. That 6 plate connector had 4 Cat 6 connectors and two coax connectors. Why? Because women MOVE things in rooms. You never know when furniture is going to change and where you had a dresser is now a desk. The ethernet and coax ran back to my home run area. The reason for dual coax had to do with DVRs. They like dual feeds. Each 'port' was numbered. We also put in the ceiling one extra coax and ethernet. You never know when you will want that if you are hanging a TV!

    A diagram in the home run room, laminated of course, helps a lot to figure where things went. All of mine was done in conduit for ethernet and conduit for coax.I also left a pull string in each conduit in the event I needed to change something out.

    Flooring was important as well. We went with floor based heat. These pads go under the flooring and that is all we ever needed. We also made sure each room had the STRONG boxes to support ceiling fans and were wired for both lights/fans at the wall outlet. As some fans have a wireless receiver that goes inline with the power, we made sure there was space in the ceiling for that instead of trying to cram into the small covering that the fan came with up to the ceiling.

    This is an odd one, but one we loved. In the kitchen, under the lower cabinets I ran that rubber based lighting that you see for $20. I tacked it up underneath the cabinets. Why? Because in the middle of the night that was the perfect amount of light to turn on to not wake everyone up.

  147. Interior walsl, all LCD TVs. by kenj123 · · Score: 1

    Don't bother sheetrocking the interior, just mount bezel less lcd panels on all the wall. Then you can project anything you want on it.

  148. Wireless lighting by plopez · · Score: 1

    Like what Tesla worked on. Imagine how much money you could save since you don't have to install wiring ;)

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    1. Re:Wireless lighting by BevanFindlay · · Score: 1

      Wireless lighting a la Tesla isn't that hard - you just have to fire up a Tesla coil and then use fluorescent tubes sufficiently close to it (higher power = more range, but you still suffer inverse square law losses).

      Of course, this is definitely not efficient in any way, and you (and your neighbours) are going to be getting mighty annoyed by the lack of TV reception and funky things that go on will all the sensitive electronics we use now...

      On the plus side though, you do have a mighty great Tesla coil sparking away somewhere that could be used as a feature item! I'd go with the middle of the roof - would probably keep birds off too, and would certainly be a talking point in the neighbourhood (well, up until the authorities arrive and tell you to shut it down).

  149. Earthship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd optimize heating and cooling by using the ground's thermal mass and insulation.

  150. Hot water recirculation pump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you get a conventional hot water tank, then get a hot water return loop / pump installed. That way, you will never have to waste water waiting for the hot water to get to your faucet. Also, make sure all the hot water lines in the wall and floor are insulated.

  151. Did this a few years ago.. by Chop · · Score: 1

    I built a house a few years ago and searched Ask Slashdot for Ideas. Here is what I did:

    * Two bundles of banana cable to every room back to a central location. Each bundle contained 2 x Cat5e + 2x RG6QS
    * One bundle of banana cable over the jacuzzi tub for a small TV.
    * Run an ethernet jack behind appliances. (fridge, stove, washer / dryer, and water heater)
    * Electrical outlets in the eves of the house. Christmas lights are a breeze to put up and take down
    * In the great room behind where I was mounting the TV I also ran in-wall rated HDMI 1.4a back to the central closet.
    * I picked a room that in the future would be a media/theater room and ran power + HDMI to the ceiling and speaker wires in the walls.
    * I never called $phone_company to install lines. The only lines to the street are power, water, and cable (for internet)

    The last one has caused some problems as every service provider says your house is unserviceable since it is not listed in "the database".

  152. Depends ... by someothername · · Score: 1

    You did not specify where you were building the home - North with heating concerns or South with cooling concerns.
    In the North I have found one of the best heating methods that is very comfortable and economical is radiant in floor heating with PEX tubing in concrete floors so you get a nice thermal battery and very good heating characteristics.
    In the south some of the posts on ground loop heat pumps are very good advice.
    Lots of insulation in either case. Radiant barrier in the roof. Living roofs can be very beneficial as well.
    Metal roofs can be very long lived, but can be very noisy during storms.
    Maintenance free exteriors are also a godsend.
    The comment on the higher basement ceilings is also very good, I wish it was an option when I did mine.
    Conduit to at least 2 places in each room is also good to a central wiring / electrical room.
    Conduit between basement and attic also is something I wish I had done as we added spotlights out back and security cameras, would have made it much easier.
    Home automation systems are a nice to have, control-4 seems to be a very good high end system with good support.
    Lots of closet space, more than you think you need, bedrooms, bathrooms, attic floors, etc. people tend to collect tons of stuff.
    Over sized garage - wider than the cars you tend to put in and deeper - lawn mower, bikes, patio furniture in the winter, kids stuff, and on and on.
    The indoor wall sound proofing is also a great idea - we did a little for the master bedroom and bath, but not enough.

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  153. Central vacuum by 72beetle · · Score: 1

    It sounds ludicrously domestic, but I visited a co-worker's house once where they had central vacuum and it was cooler than shit. Little air outlets peppered around the house (on the stairs! Brilliant!) you plug a headed hose into and vacuum away. Filter in the basement gets cleaned out monthly.

    If I had such a thing in my house, I'd live a much cleaner existence.

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  154. Proteus by tedgyz · · Score: 1

    You simply need Proteus. Just be careful as it will attempt to breed with females of child-bearing age.

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  155. Most "new tech" will be lame tech in 20 years. by gaiageek · · Score: 1

    In 1972, when my parents built the house I grew up in, they put in an intercom system. At the time, I'm sure it was an "oooh, wow" gadget. We hardly ever used it, and today there's one terminal remaining in the house which, by today's standards, is incredibly dated-looking and ugly. On top of that, it probably lasted longer than the electronics produced these days. The lesson I take from that is to keep it simple, design for potential additions/upgrades if needed (the "add conduits" advice given multiple times in this thread) and make sure anything you do add can be easily replaced, upgraded or removed so that it's not an eyesore in 20 years. Things like in-floor heating sound like a great idea reading some of the other posts here, but I wonder: what will happen when that system fails down the road? Rip up the entire floor to fix it or replace it? (I'd actually like an answer to this if anyone knows.)

    I'd put that "gadget" money into the better energy efficiency ideas which have been mentioned in other comments here -- especially simple design features that will continue to pay off throughout the life of the house with little or no maintenance. One simple non-tech suggestion I'd like to add: consider adding internal doors so that unused parts of the house can be closed off and left at a cooler (or warmer) temperature than the parts of the house you actually spend time in. For example, many houses have a ground floor where everything is open and the kitchen, family room, living room and dining room are all connected. If you live somewhere with cold winters, it doesn't make sense to be heating up the living room and dining room if you're spending all your time in the family room. With a closed door separating them you could shut off the heating vents in the unused room(s) and save on heating costs. This also helps limit noise travel when company is over. (Note that if you live somewhere with genuinely cold winters, you might not want to do this with rooms that have water pipes, as they could freeze and burst.)

    1. Re:Most "new tech" will be lame tech in 20 years. by BevanFindlay · · Score: 1

      An idea I had a while back was an open-plan ground level with sliding/folding partitions (reasonably heat-proof) that allow you to close down the open area into smaller, more cozy sections. e.g. you can have the lovely big open-plan, light, spacious area in summer (maybe even with a water feature beneath a glass floor or something fun like that), but then can easily close up to have separate rooms that are easily heated in the winter (or when you want some privacy from noisy children).

  156. Lots of Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have been thinking about this one a lot. Most of these solutions are not technological, but are very desirable. Having owned two homes, I would incorporate the following into a future home in a northern climate:

    Plumbing
    -A drain in the basement
    -All of the plumbing in the house centrally located (above the drain)
    -Copper piping
    -Lots of 1/4 turn valves
    -An extra holding tank before the water heater to allow water to reach room temperature

    Electrical
    -Easy access to pipes and electrical
    -A patch panel for CAT-6
    -CAT-6 to every room
    -A circuit breaker box with at least 10 empty spaces after the house is wired
    -A lightning rod and grounding wire

    Roof
    -No intersecting lines or holes
    -A nice overhang with soffit
    -Metal roof, no tar shingles
    -6 Ft of ice guard
    -Rain water barrels

    Driveway
    -Concrete reinforced with rebar and fiber
    -Bury several rolls of coils for geothermal heat transfer (this may also apply to the yard)

    Insulation
    -Foam with a breather vent
    -Triple pane windows
    -Pressed / poured concrete external walls
    -Ceiling fans in every room

    Misc.
    -Two 5 inch service holes on each side of the basement buried a foot below the dirt, with a PVC pipe and cap in each hole.
    -An antenna mast (grounded)
    -HD Homerun for local channels
    -1 foot of concrete around the outer edge of the house graded away for drainage
    -LED bulbs everywhere outside of sleeping areas (blue light causes issues)

    Good luck on building your home.

    1. Re:Lots of Advice by Spugglefink · · Score: 1

      +1 on the quarter turn valves. My old house is well-designed in that every last little thing has a separate shut-off valve. The problem is, I don't think there's a single valve in the house that actually works, even after replacing the soft components in some of them. Whenever I need to work on the water, it's never pleasant.

      Another thing I'll mention: Being tech minded, when my ancient water heater finally died, I replaced it with a whiz bang electronic energy saving model with a "lifetime" warranty. The water heater really did save me energy, but the electronics were sensitive. My first replacement motherboard for the water heater was free, and when it died again less than a year later, I discovered the catch in the "lifetime" warranty was that it only covered one free replacement per individual component. I had gotten my free motherboard, and would have to pay $150 for another. Considering their failure rate and replacement cost, I yanked that thing after just two years, and replaced it with a low tech analog version that costs more to operate, but works flawlessly.

      (Of course if you live where you can get natural gas without paying $50,000 for the hook-up, gas is probably the better way to go for a water heater anyway.)

      On the other side of the consumer purchase spectrum, the money I invested in good toilets really paid off with tangible water savings, and a track record of solid reliability.

    2. Re:Lots of Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -A nice overhang with soffit

      Why this one?

  157. WIRES by tedgyz · · Score: 1

    Most important thing for me is running wires for Ethernet and cable. WiFi is obviously your secondary access point, but make sure every corner of the house has a wired connection.

    You should also look at running dedicated power circuits to your home theater, office, etc. Anything with a concentration of expensive electronics should have their own circuit. When I built my office, I had two separate branches - one for electronics and one for lights and light duty outlets. All my important circuits use 12ga wire with 20amp outlets. Even if I am not drawing the current to justify them, I feel they provide cleaner power.

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  158. Accommodation for the future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd put in structured wiring to at least one multimedia plate in each room, and two in the larger rooms like the master bedroom and living room. 2 quad shielded coax RG-6, two fibers, 2 cat 5/6 and whatever else they stuff into the highest end structured wiring cables. Homer to a wiring closet, which should have a dedicated 20 amp circuit and ventilation. People always forget forced ventilation and it bites them in the butt later. If you can afford it put the AC electrical wiring in metal conduit, one size bigger than you think you need. leave pull loops in the conduits for the future. Provide a nice plastic conduit from the expected service entrance for Cable, Satellite, and fiber, that leads to your structured wiring cabinet.

    Provide network wiring from the cabinet above as well as AC wiring in conduit to strategic locations in the ceiling that you can access ( a 1 foot by 1 foot or 30 cm by 30 cm box with removable panel might be nice) to accommodate wifi access points. Also something similar near the doors. Conduits for future security wiring or just jump in and do the security now.

    Apocalyptic thoughts? Put in a safe room or shelter, and have it accommodate a years dehydrated food supply. Don't forget water, a big cistern. And backup power. Minimally have a place to store two weeks food supply and water. Natural disasters happen, and usually (floods and lava aside) sheltering in place is best. Self sustain and have the room, Bunnies, chickens and spirolina. And a vegetable garden. Don't wait until disaster to start the garden. You'll be busy then. Putting in a generator? If you have the option, get a natural gas/propane dual fuel one, and put in a propane tank large enough to run it for a few weeks. Then run it on Natural gas normally. Test it often. And if allowed by your circumstances a few firearms, and ammunition. No need for an arsenal, or pallets of ammo. Put it into a gun safe if you're uncomfortable with them generally around, but do take appropriate lessons if needed, so you are comfortable operating them. Cleaning supplies for the firearms as well.

    Economy a concern, consider a "Monolithic Dome" it has the most floorspace for the least outer surface, and is inherently easy to heat. In some areas body heat from a family is all that is needed in the winter. Alternative heating like wood stove is also useful, and can be accomplished with style, though not as generally useful, with fireplace inserts. Passive heat return works best. Really want to be economical, bury a dome. Just make sure to coat the outside with a layer of clay over the elastomer, just in case. They make big slags to use for ponds. You want an inverted pond.

    Wherever you place AC conduits place a low voltage conduit. Go all LED for lighting. Skylights brighten large interior areas without the need for electricity. When considering where outlets and media plates go, don't think of just how you lay out the room now, consider other possible layouts. Speaking of skylights, an atrium style underground house is very efficient too, lots of light and energy efficient...

    Think forward in technology and your desires and accommodate it. A pool might be nice? plan now as if it existed. Garage might be small in the future? Cheapest is make it bigger now, but just in case leave space for the remodel. Facing severe arthritis and mobility issues in old age and planning on keeping the house, make the stairs wider and create a live on first floor scenario with a guest bedroom there if multiple stories. Want excellent wifi, and planning on network based failover (like T-Mobil WiFi calling) ... use conductive mesh over the sheathing, bonded at the seams and connected to a buried grounding system. In a drought prone area, put in a cistern large enough for a years water use. Also don't plant grass in drought prone areas, there are much nicer options that require much less water with succulents.

    Have a large family? then extra garage slots and room for expansion. I planned a house with a mostly unfinished

  159. Similar to everyone else... by FrankSchwab · · Score: 1

    Looking out over the next couple of years, 802.11ac at 2.4/5 GHz would be the wireless standard that you need to install - any electronics you buy in that time are going to want that. Infrastructure needs for this are pretty well understood. After that, you'd want to be able to install 802.11ad - infrastructure to that is a bit more difficult. To support it, you'll need 1 or 2 wireless routers per room with a good viewing angle. This, to me, would say that I'd like power and wired network ports in the upper corner of every room. When I built an addition onto my house 10 years ago, the contractor thought I was crazy wanting a power outlet and network tap in the upper corner of each bedroom closet - but it's been an excellent place to locate 5 GHz routers. Adding future nanny cams, microphones for voice control of the house, etc becomes easy with such well located network access points.

    Assume that the data provider entries to your house (phone company, cable company, satellite service, TV antenna) need to be provided by you. Run power to the locations, install a good ground rod at each location, run conduit from the locations to your wiring closet. If you hate everyone nailing their own ugly demarc box to your exterior wall, design an acceptable utility entrance that will hide them.

    I think Cat 6 and quad-shield RG-6 to one or two wallplates in every room makes sense. For the foreseeable future, broadcast TV (either cable or satellite) is going to get distributed around your house on Coax, not Ethernet, and short of going to Fiber, Cat-6 is about as good as network wiring is going to get. It's also hard to imagine network speeds really needing to be above the 10 Gbit level that you can get with Cat-6. How many 4K video streams do you really expect to ever need on a single port? I don't know that I'd spend the extra money to run conduit to every room - perhaps only to the one or two main media centers of the house. You know that you'll kick yourself if you decide to open up a datacenter in your spare bedroom and need to install multiple single-mode fibers to the rack of raspberry-pi sized servers you install in there, but we can't have everything.

    Wire all the doors and windows in the house with alarm wiring, even if you don't plan on installing a system. Make it hidden - magnetic switches embedded in the frames with magnets mortised into the door or window. Run two to every door/window, so a broken wire isn't a critical failure. If you're into christmas lights, prewire outlets under the eaves so you don't end up with extension cords all over the place. It's a good place to install a network jack also, in case you decide to install security lights/cameras.

    You didn't ask about environmental design, but I agree with a lot of the posters - spend some time to minimize heating and cooling costs and maximize comfort. Recognize that most HVAC duct design is intended for minimum installed cost, not necessarily minimum 10-year operational cost or comfort. Consider humidity control - for me in Phoenix, it means humidifiers in the initial plan; for someone in Florida, it might mean dehumidifiers in the initial plan. Consider allergen control - a lot easier to implement if it's considered up front. Consider a zoned system with possibly multiple thermostats - in a big house, being able to completely turn off HVAC to unused rooms (rather than shutting the door) can have significant savings.

    Consider asking the plumber and electrician to go outside their "install it as cheaply as possible" mindset, and make the systems more user-friendly. As an example, it might cost a few hundred dollars more to wire the house rationally (each circuit breaker controlling outlets in the same room) rather than lowest cost (minimize wire length, even if it means a circuit breaker controls a few outlets in three different rooms, or a single room has three different breakers so you never know which one to throw to turn off power to a specific outlet). It might cost a few hundred dollars more to plumb the house rationally - a

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  160. Low Maintenance by Etherwalk · · Score: 2

    Your first principle should be aiming for low maintenance costs. Minimize the cost of *owning* the house, in terms of *money*, *time*, and *complexity*. It makes a huge difference--much easier to hold onto the house over time if your finances change, for example; much easier to have time to spend with people or on new productive projects rather than doing the same old maintenance; less to remember or coordinate between multiple maintenance people; more return if you ever want to live somewhere else and decide to hang on to this and rent; etc...

    Don't install gutters. People put off cleaning gutters and then get water damage or clogging of pipes to drywells. Install french drains under the edges of the roof where the water will drain.

    If your municipality lets you, install a septic instead of connecting to city sewer. No sewer fee. (Just get it pumped every few years).

    Unless you play in a yard or want on for social reasons or safety reasons (depending on neighborhood), steer clear of having one. They require maintenance and generate pollution. Pick some trees and maybe bushes you like and put them in. Trimming every 1-10 years is easier than cutting the lawn every 3 weeks. I would probably tend to go with evergreens, but there's a bunch you can do. Several people have suggested gardens, and that can also be fun, but there can be a lot of labor so don't count on always being able to do it, or else pick plants that require little labor to produce (like squash).

    Install a good security system. Where by "good" I mostly mean "thorough enough that it covers everything." Since you're building, a wired one is relatively easy to install.

    Include low-temperature sensors to warn you if the house is going to freeze, and leak detection around the water tanks. These can be wired into the security system (ideal) or on their own.

    Include low-voltage wiring for speakers as well as the alarm system.

    Overpower it. It's a new house; I would set it up with 400 amp service so you hopefully never need to upgrade the electric. The cost difference between 200 and 400 when you're putting it in is usually relatively small. Also at least a generator interlock; whether you want a permanent generator likely depends on your location.

    1. Re:Low Maintenance by GWBasic · · Score: 1

      "for example; much easier to have time to spend with people or on new productive projects rather than doing the same old maintenance; less to remember or coordinate between multiple maintenance people"

      "If your municipality lets you, install a septic instead of connecting to city sewer. No sewer fee. (Just get it pumped every few years)."

      My parents and I live in the same town. They have septic, I have sewer. The sewer fee is very cheap; much more preferable to dealing with a septic tank. A septic tank is also a liability if you need to get it replaced.

    2. Re:Low Maintenance by Etherwalk · · Score: 1

      My parents and I live in the same town. They have septic, I have sewer. The sewer fee is very cheap; much more preferable to dealing with a septic tank. A septic tank is also a liability if you need to get it replaced.

      YMMV. There's almost nothing to dealing with a septic--get it pumped every few years. Connection to sewer may well need to get replaced as often, so the delta on capital isn't quite as big as you'd think--a good septic lasts 40 years, anyway. Your local sewer fee is cheap, but some places it isn't--and it's a monopoly you're totally beholden to, so if they have to install a new sewage treatment plant and rates skyrocket, there is nothing you can do about it.

    3. Re:Low Maintenance by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I have to disagree with some of your advice.

      If your municipality lets you, install a septic instead of connecting to city sewer. No sewer fee. (Just get it pumped every few years).

      You first tell him to minimize maintenance, and then you tell him to opt for something which requires more maintenance and is problem-prone. This makes no sense at all. Of course, some of this depends on location, but in most places I've seen, there's no sewer fee, there's only a water fee. The sewer cost is built in, and handled by the same entity, so there's no advantage in not having sewer service. Sewer service is simple and reliable; most people never have any problems (except maybe clogs, but you'd have those with septic too). Getting a septic tank cleaned is a pain, and worst of all, having a septic system means having a septic field, which can have problems, especially if there's any flooding. Finally, most places probably don't want you to have septic because they want the water back, so it can be processed and put back into the system.

      Pick some trees and maybe bushes you like and put them in. Trimming every 1-10 years is easier than cutting the lawn every 3 weeks.

      Bushes usually require trimming far more often than that. But avoiding lawns is a good idea if you can do it. Look up "xeriscaping". If you're going to have any lawn, try to keep the grassy area small, and use a manual reel mower to cut it; you'll get better exercise that way and generate no pollution. Use a battery-powered or corded electric weedwacker for edging/trimming. Have more wooded area, and a compost pile for kitchen waste, if you have the acreage.

      Include low-voltage wiring for speakers as well as the alarm system.

      This isn't 1995; why would you need wiring for speakers? That's what Ethernet, WiFi, and Bluetooth are for. Direct wiring to speakers is mostly obsolete now (it still probably makes sense for a good stereo system, but I'm talking about situations where the speakers are remote, and not really meant for premium sound quality).

    4. Re: Low Maintenance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with your concept, but not your implementation.

      Gutters are great for collecting water for a tank. Tank-water is great: personally I will happily drink it, but at the least you can use it for washing, showers, toilets etc.

      Also I'm a huge fan of a *productive* garden. Not a pretty-pretty garden full of ornamental shrubs and flowers: that's a pointless waste of space, time and energy. A garden full of fruit trees and veges on the other hand is really, really practical. Add some chooks if the neighbours allow and you'll get eggs, weeding and pest control as well.

      But generally yes: practical, low maintenance wins every time.

    5. Re:Low Maintenance by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      in most places I've seen, there's no sewer fee, there's only a water fee

      Wait, what?

      they want the water back, so it can be processed and put back into the system

      Oh, you live somewhere that's essentially a desert. Where water is plentiful, water and sewer are usually separate - sprinkler system goes on a separate water meter to avoid sewer charges (which for me are higher than the water charges).

      If you're looking for low maintenance alternatives to a yard, fwiw, and you're in USDA zone 7 or higher, Asiatic jasmine will grow under almost any lighting conditions (from full sun to directly under a live oak), and only needs to be cut once a year. Very tolerant of steep slopes, too.

    6. Re: Low Maintenance by Etherwalk · · Score: 1

      I agree with your concept, but not your implementation.

      Gutters are great for collecting water for a tank. Tank-water is great: personally I will happily drink it, but at the least you can use it for washing, showers, toilets etc.

      Also I'm a huge fan of a *productive* garden. Not a pretty-pretty garden full of ornamental shrubs and flowers: that's a pointless waste of space, time and energy. A garden full of fruit trees and veges on the other hand is really, really practical. Add some chooks if the neighbours allow and you'll get eggs, weeding and pest control as well.

      But generally yes: practical, low maintenance wins every time.

      Oh, yes, sorry, I meant to mention that about greywater use. If you do go with gutters, I agree that they should be set up to feed some kind of non-potable water system if your municipality allows. Although I would want to set it up so that it would be easily changable in case I want to sell it to someone with who sees that as an evil hippy feature instead of as a neat green feature.

      I still would absolutely avoid gutters because it is too easy for someone to forget them, or put off the maintenance, or not realize a drywell is plugged up, and have them cause water damage at the roof or foundation.

    7. Re:Low Maintenance by Etherwalk · · Score: 1

      This isn't 1995; why would you need wiring for speakers? That's what Ethernet, WiFi, and Bluetooth are for. Direct wiring to speakers is mostly obsolete now (it still probably makes sense for a good stereo system, but I'm talking about situations where the speakers are remote, and not really meant for premium sound quality).

      Good point. Yes, it was more one of those "it's easy to do while building and might be useful" things. You don't really need it, but you might want to plan your entertainment system while planning your building.

    8. Re:Low Maintenance by Etherwalk · · Score: 1

      I have to disagree with some of your advice.

      If your municipality lets you, install a septic instead of connecting to city sewer. No sewer fee. (Just get it pumped every few years).

      You first tell him to minimize maintenance, and then you tell him to opt for something which requires more maintenance and is problem-prone. This makes no sense at all. Of course, some of this depends on location, but in most places I've seen, there's no sewer fee, there's only a water fee. The sewer cost is built in, and handled by the same entity, so there's no advantage in not having sewer service. Sewer service is simple and reliable; most people never have any problems (except maybe clogs, but you'd have those with septic too). Getting a septic tank cleaned is a pain, and worst of all, having a septic system means having a septic field, which can have problems, especially if there's any flooding. Finally, most places probably don't want you to have septic because they want the water back, so it can be processed and put back into the system.

      I think this depends a lot on location. Getting a tank pumped is easy--you call a company every five years and they do it. Pay a handyman a few bucks to dig it up if you want to save a few bucks over having the company do it. But there's some competition among the pumping companies, and you're not beholden to a monopoly whose budget you can't control which may turn around and decide to install a massive sewage treatment plant and pass the bill on to you. Now if you don't have enough land or a big enough lot or the right drainage for a septic under ideal conditions, for example, then yes, sewer is much more likely to make sense.

      Pick some trees and maybe bushes you like and put them in. Trimming every 1-10 years is easier than cutting the lawn every 3 weeks.

      Bushes usually require trimming far more often than that. But avoiding lawns is a good idea if you can do it. Look up "xeriscaping". If you're going to have any lawn, try to keep the grassy area small, and use a manual reel mower to cut it; you'll get better exercise that way and generate no pollution.

      All good ideas.

    9. Re:Low Maintenance by BevanFindlay · · Score: 1

      The high-amp electrical feed is going to be very useful if the (likely) electric vehicle trend pans out: EVs want a really high current draw if you want them to charge in less than a day. Being set up to install your own fast-charge unit would be a smart move. Also though, the same goes for installing electrical outlets - older houses with a single power socket in each room are annoying to live in; and I've never had a house where I've said there are too many sockets.

      Of course, the power setup is quite different if you want to go solar or other onsite renewables...

    10. Re:Low Maintenance by sjbe · · Score: 1

      Minimize the cost of *owning* the house, in terms of *money*, *time*, and *complexity*.

      Yes! Particularly the time and complexity parts of the equation.

      Don't install gutters. People put off cleaning gutters and then get water damage or clogging of pipes to drywells. Install french drains under the edges of the roof where the water will drain.

      Not allowed by code in some places. There are ways to keep the crap out of gutters. If you go without you'll probably need a gravel perimeter for where the water meets the ground and you'll need extra long overhangs to get it away from the walls. I get what you are saying but I would suggest designing the roofs (if possible) to minimize the need for gutters. It's hard to eliminate them entirely on a residence.

      If your municipality lets you, install a septic instead of connecting to city sewer. No sewer fee. (Just get it pumped every few years).

      Septic systems come with their own set of problems. I have one and have lived with them most of my life. They require pumping every 1-2 years in most cases. If you have pets or people who shed a lot of hair (read girls) the filters on them can clog pretty quickly. In some cases they do require servicing. If you do get one you want it to be concrete which will last a long time (30-40 years). They also have a capacity limit so depending on the size of the septic tank you sometimes have to be careful how much water you use in a given time period. Make sure the septic tank is sized adequate to your water use needs.

      Unless you play in a yard or want on for social reasons or safety reasons (depending on neighborhood), steer clear of having one.

      Hell yes. I have a patch of grass to exercise my dogs but if I didn't have dogs I'd let it overgrow in a heartbeat. Manicured lawns are huge wastes of money and time. I also recommend getting an electric rather than gas powered mower if you do need to mow and your yard is small enough. I have one and it's great. Runs for about 30 minutes, does a great job and the only servicing required is the occasional blade change and a battery replacement every 3-5 years. WAY less hassle and pollution and noise than a gas mower.

      Overpower it. It's a new house; I would set it up with 400 amp service so you hopefully never need to upgrade the electric. The cost difference between 200 and 400 when you're putting it in is usually relatively small. Also at least a generator interlock; whether you want a permanent generator likely depends on your location.

      I would second this particularly if you ever think you'll get an electric car or plug in hybrid. I'd also suggest getting a whole house surge protector. Cost is pretty low and it will protect a lot of your equipment.

    11. Re:Low Maintenance by GNU(slash)Nickname · · Score: 1

      Your local sewer fee is cheap, but some places it isn't--and it's a monopoly you're totally beholden to, so if they have to install a new sewage treatment plant and rates skyrocket, there is nothing you can do about it.

      If you are paying to have your sewage pumped, then in all likelihood those fees are going to rise proportionally to the sewer rates. Unless your sewage is being hauled to a different municipality.

  161. My two cents... mainly solar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here in Texas, if it were not for the need for A/C, I could run most of the high energy using appliances from a CNG or even a propane line, including the fridge, clothes dryer, water heater, and definitely the furnace. With those taken care of, rooftop solar on the house, carport, and shed, combined with a decent storage battery bank could take care of almost all electric needs, although having a mains connection would still be done. The advantage of having all house electricity go through a storage battery is the functionality of a whole-house UPS, and a better guarantee of clean power.

    For gray water, it would be tossed through a macerator, filtered, then stored for the garden, Perhaps circulated through a UV light system so that when used, the water is pretty clean of bugs.

    For all inside doors, I would use steel doors with a "classroom function" lock on them. Normally, they just function as passage locks (always openable from the rooms.) Then, when I leave for vacation, I can lock all room doors (living room, hall, bedroom, bathroom), and an intruder would have to do more than just kick the front door down to gain access. It won't stop them, but slow them down. Of course, all locks will be Abloy Protec2, just because. The alarm system will be the strobe and fog system as well (can't steal what one can't see). Since the local police might think a rave is going on if the alarm goes off, it can't hurt things.

    The outside windows/doors definitely will get shutters. Again, this ensures that when I'm gone, a would-be burglar has to bring power tools in order to get access, and not just a brick.

  162. Re:Double Width Exterior Walls and Ductless HVAC by foreverdisillusioned · · Score: 2

    I've seen this approach advocated a few times and while I'm sure it works great in the southwest, it's worth pointing out that this simply does not work in hot-humid environments such as you'll find in much of the southeast.

    The problem is twofold: one, you don't see the massive temperature reduction at night. Two, if you don't have the A/C removing humidity from the house then you're going to see rust and you're going to be uncomfortably sweating a lot of the time.

  163. gadget list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Home Controller like the mi casa veralite

    Energy/Utility Monitoring devices such as: http://www.theenergydetective.com/ so you can monitor electric usage on all circuits, digital gas meter so you can monitor gas usage, digital hot water meter for monitoring hot water usage, digital water meter so you can monitor all water usage. You'll already have gas and water meters, but it is nice to route readings to your home controller.

    Fiberglass windows: Fiberglass frames expand/contract at the same rate as glass. As well, they are stiffer. For these reasons, the tolerances for the gaps between the sliding window and frame can be smaller - which means less air leaks. Minimizing air leaks is the best way to minimize heat transfer.

    Metal roof: Metal roofs last a long time and reflect a lot of heat. This will lower A/C electrical usage significantly.

    Insulated Concrete Forms for basement. Regardless of whether you have a basement or not, but insulated foam under concrete slab too. If you can't do insulated concrete forms, request the insulation be added to the outside of the wall as your preference.

    Run conduit from your TVs/monitors to the location of your AV devices and computer. Standards like HDMI cables are changing. Soon you'll want display port, and that may be obsolete again in a few years. So you want the option to route whatever is the latest and greatest.

    Build a cold room in the basement - for storing root vegetables and other things that need to be cool. An insulated fiberglass door with appropriate weather sealing should separate the cold room from the living space.

    If you build a well sealed house, get an air exchanger to ensure sufficient fresh air.

    Recycle water and recapture the heat from shower/bath water and washing machine. You can plumb the house so you can flush toilets with washing machine waste water and shower water. It's a simple thing... store the water in a cistern in a closet... When it sits in the closet, the residual heat from the hot water will warm the house... you then flush the toilet with the room temperature water. No need to flush expensive hot water down the drain. (Check your city bylaws to make sure you are allowed to use `grey water`.)

    Radiant heat (hot water boiler) is the nicest feeling heat. An on demand boiler or boilers will save you a lot of money. For your pottable hot water you may not like the lag when you turn on the hot water tap. If so, get a `super store` tank. And consider getting solar water heaters for your roof. You'll get more bang for your buck using solar energy to heat the water than you will with photovoltaic solar cells.

  164. House orientation by wakawakka · · Score: 1

    A house that is not built to have windows towards the south (with an appropriately long roof overhang to prevent overheating during the summer) will be dark and unpleasant. A really passive and lifelong upgrade is to plan carefully for the sun's path! Scroll to the bottom of this article for a cool example of how lit a house can be with no electricity!

    1. Re:House orientation by wakawakka · · Score: 1

      the article in question: http://www.mrmoneymustache.com...

  165. Pick the right roof angle for solar by Goldenhawk · · Score: 1

    One thing that's impossible to change later: roof angle. I REALLY want solar, but I'll never get it, because my roof angle is exactly wrong for good solar coverage.

    My ridgeline runs at a very bad angle for solar panels; although back of the house is more or less pointed south, it's just far enough off that getting good panel orientation requires large angled brackets, which decreases panel coverage by about half. I could probably double the energy fraction if I could turn the house by 30 deg.

    Similarly, cutting some large trees down would help. But that screws with passive cooling. Tradeoffs...

    The next house I build will definitely have orientation as a leading consideration for energy independence. It will absolutely affect my choice of location/lot, partly because decent curb appeal is important for resale value, and big solar panels on the street-facing roof are a turnoff for many buyers.

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  166. Build down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go two stories down, instead of two stories up. You can get much more naturally regulated temperatures by building down.

    And, if you ever plant corn, you won't have to worry about your house casting shade on it.

  167. Correction by JBMcB · · Score: 1

    Of course you're right - I meant whole-house fan. Everyone in my neck of the woods uses the terms interchangeably and confusingly.

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  168. My house by John_Sauter · · Score: 1

    I built my house in 1969. We found a location at the end of a dead-end road to avoid traffic, well up a hill to avoid flooding, but below the top of the hill and protected by trees to avoid high winds. In construction we did three innovative things:

    • * two propane tanks, instead of the usual one
    • * water well under the house, so the pipe to the house will not freeze in the winter
    • * laundry room upstairs with the bedrooms, to avoid carrying clothing up and down stairs

    When I remodeled in 2000 I added:

    • * central vacuum
    • * emergency electric generator fueled by the same propane tanks that fuel the heating, washing and cooking
    • * four Cat 5 cables from the wiring closet to each room
    • * so-called "radiant" heat, which means running heated water in pipes under the floors
    • * central air conditioning, plus two whole-house humidifiers
    • * a third stall on the garage, currently used for storage

    Since then I have added:

    • * 30-amp exterior service for a parked recreational vehicle
    • * several retaining walls to stabilize the land, resulting in a terraced garden
    • * water service from the local water district, as a backup for the well

    Perhaps in the summer of 2017 it will be cost-effective to add a solar roof.

    1. Re:My house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 2023 I have added:
      * small gun safe in every room and closet large enough to hold three shotguns and 100 rounds in each.
      * zombie containment pit - to house my loved ones while I cope with the inevitable denial.
      * fireman pole to the second level basement
      * secret lair in the second level basement
      * science lab with total containment of highly infectious materials
      * an antidote to the highly infectious zombie-creating virus - begin stock piling
      * a zombie-creating virus

  169. things nobody has mentioned by jab · · Score: 1

    Residential heliostats. We have two. Natural light is awesome.
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    Multisplit air heat pumps. After adding insulation and reducing air leaks, the new
    heating system as 4 zones. We can heat the whole place on the coldest day
    with about 48 kilowatts of heat, which is less than the flue loss on our old
    propane furnace.

    Attic trapdoor tent, to reduce one source of air leaks. I feel like camping any
    time I have to unzip and enter the attic.

    Serious gutters. I really wish we had aluminum instead of the rusty steel, but
    more importantly for us are the hardcore micromesh guards that finally, finally,
    finally will keep out the needles.

    I'm also loving the new 10 year battery only smoke detectors. Anything that cuts
    down maintenance is a win.

  170. constructive craziness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well, if we're going nuts here...

    -three story concrete dome (two above, one below) using an energetically modified cement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energetically_modified_cement, preferably sourced from natural as opposed to industrially-sourced ash and using a braided rebar design. Set the walls at 2-3 feet in thickness, leaving an open 1st floor design and an external circular descending ramp into the basement/garage. Dress up the outside of the concrete with cobblestone patterns or whatnot and any windows are non-opening made of thick lexan or other shatter-resistant materials. House should be decently shielded from adverse weather events and hopefully on ground high enough to avoid 100-year floods.
    - first floor is a relatively open, high-ceiling plan with a central staircase, probably integrated with a support pillar. With the considerable structural support provided by the outer frame, you can lay out whatever internal structure suits you in as much as living room, den, etc. It'd be similar to remodeling a floor in an office building, but you can pitch for thicker walls, varying ceiling heights and plenty of leeway to change it later or upgrade infrastructure as technology improves.
    -second floor takes a hexagonal structure, stairs and pillar in the center. interstitial spaces between the rooms are used for storage, utility, etc. AC unit is recessed in the roof atop the central pillar along with infrastructure for whatever else you need -- solar, vertical windmill, Satellite tv, etc.
    -basement is outfitted as you'd prefer, knowing it'll have at least as much surface area as the 1st floor. plenty of space for a garage and an independent work area. Maybe you can have both a 5-ton hydraulic lift and a makerspace kitted out with 3D printers and all that? Make your own replacement parts if you're really dedicated...

    -feeling paranoid? Throw a coat of copper on the rebar before pouring the cement and you can electrify it to make a semi-decent faraday cage, leaving only the cables directly run into the house as your electronic points of egress. Double the amount of concrete or use a high-carbon mix from solida http://www.building4change.com/article.jsp?id=2363, which suggests it has a higher tensile strength than traditional, dirty portland cement.

    -for the kitchen: induction counter-top ranges, walk-in fridge/freezer, center island that can double as either prep or a table, double oven setup for big meals, 40" screen tied to a media system with some measure of voice control in case you need to go over those Alton Brown recipes step-by-step.

    -living room: go with a large-scale projector, potentially good for floor-to-ceiling images as resolution improves and mount it to the ceiling to keep it out of the way. cable up the entertainment center to the coffee table to minimize cord mess, then either rely on wireless inter-connectivity or have a shielded floor raceway that can handle both network and power. (note: Floor raceways are only awesome if you plan them before the pour, but otherwise a central raceway design can be exceptionally convenient).

    Of course, you asked for folks to toss out ideas, so there you are...

  171. Cannabis grow rooms by msobkow · · Score: 0

    Properly equipped, ventilated, and cooled cannabis grow rooms to treat my migraines. 'nuff said.

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    1. Re:Cannabis grow rooms by msobkow · · Score: 1

      Downvoted? *LOL*

      Apparently you have no idea just how much technology goes into automating hydroponics if you have an unlimited budget. :D

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  172. Cool Old Technology by Jodka · · Score: 1

    What Cool New Tech Would You Put In?

    Some of the best new home technology is actually old technology:

    - Masonry Heaters, were invented in the Neolithic Era. Unlike wood stoves or fireplaces they burn clean with almost 100% efficiency and require infrequent fueling, only once or twice a day. They also look cool, have a neat ambiance and fuel costs are far lower than any alternative.

    - Nickel-Iron Edison batteries were invented over 100 years ago by Waldemar Jungner in 1899 and developed by Thomas Edison in 1901. The nickel iron batteries in Jay Leno's 1909 Baker Electric Coupe are as good as new. Unlike any other home electric backup storage technology they last for basically an infinite number of charge/discharge cycles and have many other desirable characteristics such as immunity to 100% depletion (which destroys lithium and lead-acid batteries) and the are environmentally friendly, non-toxic and 100% recyclable. The only downside is their mass, but unless you will be driving your house around, it's by far the best option. And unlike aluminum batteries, and the Tesla Powerwall, the Nickel Iron batteries are available today.

    - Used shipping containers: Build your house out of them. Invented, depending on your point of reference, some time between 1933 (first containerized shipping in Europe) and 1968 (ISO standard published). It's environmentally friendly and your house will be impervious to tornadoes and earthquakes. Container homes have gone from being kind of trailer-park to high-design.

    Of course I would want modern options such as photovoltaics and a ground-source heat pump, in addition to the old stuff. So my advice: You will do best to select the best of both the old and new, instead of exclusively one or the other.

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  173. Just enough space by cerberusss · · Score: 1

    Heh, I just came here to post how you shouldn't add too much space :)

    My experience with closets is that you will fill them with things. Stuff you have but don't really need. If you won't fill it, then your SO will. We live on 1022 square foot, with one child and one woman and in my opinion, that's enough.

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  174. EMP RF EMI Shielding by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    It would be ideal if every house on my block resisted NSA spying and illegal FBI wiretapping.

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  175. Forget the house - use the cloud! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everything hip and new is in the cloud - you should be there too!

  176. systemd by tom229 · · Score: 1

    Whatever you do make sure it runs systemd....

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  177. Don't forget the doco! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whatever you do, don't forget to document the crap out of it. If you sell the house, the next owner is going to be scratching their head over the weird stuff you've done!

  178. "Unfinished" areas by GWBasic · · Score: 1

    One thing I like about my house is that it has a large unfinished basement. Not only does it give me a lot of room to do messy projects, but it's very easy to run ethernet to anywhere it's needed on the first floor. I do wish I could get some kind of wired network onto the second floor, though.

    In my opinion, avoid installing lots of "tech" in your walls. My house is loaded with so much obsolete wire: An old intercom system, coaxial, old electric heating wires, an old split-lead from before there was cable TV. Conduits are good, and unfinished space where you can access the ends.

  179. Re:Just GBE everywhere! WITH PATCH PANEL by Lorens · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Terminate half the wires to one jack and half to the other.

    You shouldn't even need to do that. I set up a simple patch panel of female ethernet connectors in my wiring closet, each connected to the female ethernet connectors all over the house. My POTS line comes into that wiring closet (well, my DSL line does, and my box has an RJ11 POTS connector). Plug the phone's RJ11 into the RJ45 where you want the telephone (yes, male RJ11 plugs into female RJ45 by design), find a male-male RJ11 to connect the corresponding patch panel RJ45 to the RJ11 POTS line, and bingo you can have your POTS telephone wherever you thought to place an ethernet outlet.

    You probably want to avoid messing up connections between ethernet and POTS though. I've done it without ill effects, but no one phoned me during the time it was misplugged.

    Now that I've wasted the mod point I awarded here before posting, some other tips, not all cool new tech:

    - some place with ethernet that you can have a noisy server. Servers aren't that noisy any more, but I've had to junk one supposedly silent server because the power unit emitted a very annoying high-pitched whine, and cheap hard disks still make noise. This could be the wiring closet, but not necessarily.

    - there's a (maybe European) quality of cable called "grade 3" that is better than cat6 (cat6e?) in that you can wire a satellite (coax) signal directly to it.

    - if you use contractors, watch them. Every day. Get them used to the idea that they can ask you things. I put double RJ45 outlets in a lot of places, but the only place I really wanted two was where I was putting the television. Guess where the cabling guy decided on his own to only put a single because the patch panel had one hole less than needed?

    - if you use contractors, watch them even more than that. I have a friend who used to change out of business work clothes into worker's coveralls in order to walk around his future house every evening. One evening he sees something bad (ISTR isolation) and calls it to the attention of the guy working nearby. The reply was "Oh yeah I know I messed up but it's too much work to correct, it'll be covered by drywall, the owner will never know".

    - why not run cable to the fridge? To somewhere you might want a (PoE) surveillance camera? Wifi repeater?

    - battery-powered doorbells suck.

    - easily accessible storage space for things like vacuum cleaner, mop, dry food, clothes

    - BTW, central vacuum cleaning, but storage is good anyway.

      - I put washing and drying machines on the bedroom floor instead of basement or kitchen. No more carrying dirty clothing up and down stairs, but YMMV if your sleep patterns might clash with the noise. BTW, drying machines are better and cheaper if they have a hole to the outside.

    - depending on your local weather, DFV (double-flow ventilation) with heat exchange so you don't lose heat, and cheaper electricity and heating mentioned by others

    - Kitchen: granite desktop. Draw-out trash can just underneath so you can just sweep peelings from the working area directly into the trash can. Dishwasher a foot or two above the usual level so you don't have to bend (you put your hand in the dishwasher a lot more often than in the oven, and kids can fall on the upwards-pointing knives in a dishwasher just like they can burn their hands on an oven). Power plugs for kitchen appliances of course, maybe ethernet?

    - going to have animals? Where are you putting their food, will you shut up the dog during the night and if so where, do you need a cat door, etc.

    Lots more of course, I have often heard that that the house you get perfect is the third one you build!

  180. Auto Darkening Windows by wasteoid · · Score: 1

    Electro-chromatic windows, so a push of a button (or automatic based on incoming light levels) would darken or turn windows into privacy mode. They are even working on a combination of PV-EC windows, such that the window would also act as a solar cell, powering the window itself without the need for running any wires.

  181. Conduit. by Miamicanes · · Score: 1

    Conduit. The future might be wireless, but the wireless you'll have to use won't be able to penetrate a window, much less a wall. Conduit will allow you to pull cheap cat5e today, and replace it with fiber 10-20 years from now when you finally NEED it.

    Run conduit to every room where you think you might someday want to have a network connection, or need to put a line-of-sight access point. Don't forget the bathrooms, garage, basement, and snack bar in the kitchen.

    From at least one box in each room where you're terminating the low-voltage conduit, run another conduit up to somewhere on the ceiling about a foot or two from the wall. You can omit the boxes and just leave the conduit there (photographed and documented for future reference), but they'll make your life INFINITELY easier if you someday need to put an access point on the ceiling). Remember what I said earlier about wireless? When the day comes that you'll need it, you'll be glad you have a ready-to-use conduit that just needs you to cut a hole in the ceiling and grope around until you find the conduit. For line-of-sight wireless, you'll be glad you have the ceiling location.

    If possible, run two conduits to non-adjacent walls in the bedrooms and living room. Don't forget the area under the wall cabinets in the kitchen and the snack bar.

    Big tip: don't terminate the homerun from the wiring closet to the living room in a box behind your likely TV location. Put the box near a corner, in a spot likely to be easily accessible, then run another conduit from THERE to the box behind the TV. That way, if you someday have a 700 pound entertainment center blocking easy access to the box behind the TV and you bought some new toy that needs to have wiring pulled, you can temporarily pull it to the accessible box and play with it for a few days without having to deal with large-scale furniture movement.

  182. say no to ground source heat pump. by radl33t · · Score: 1

    spend all the money you would spend on a gshp well on thicker insulation, better windows, and intelligent shading. Its more cost effective and won't break. gshps are a lazy and expensive approach to heating and cooling. Use your capital to eliminate the loads in the first place. Then use a significantly cheaper and smaller ashp if necessary. Even in climates with 8000 to 9000 HDD, properly air sealed R30 walls (inc glazing) will drop your design heat load to 1 ton or less of heat pump. ground sinks are ridiculous at that low size.

  183. Re:I wouldn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've had packet loss with 1G over CAT5e. It was cable I'd previously used for 100M and bought to future-proof. It might be worth checking for this if you go with 1G and 5e.

  184. Motorized Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want to be able to open/close/lock/unlock any window with an app on my phone.

  185. Re:Energy Conservation tax incentives by rwa2 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I hear you. But there's some charm in older houses, and some value that can be wrought from bringing a 'fixer' into a new age while repurposing some of the quirks into features (like the milk delivery door from 50s houses).

    But even with a new house, you probably need some plan for maintenance and upgrades over the 30 years it'll take you to pay off the mortgage. I got suckered into reading about the current sorry state of home automation systems a few weekends ago simply because I had to decide which smoke detector to buy... There are no less than 6 big competing standards with big industry backers at the moment! All I wanted was to make sure I could (eventually) get a little notification on my phone if the smoke detector goes off, but that meant wading through that mess and trying to choose a "winnar" now.

    Anyway, I went with the FirstAlert detectors, since they could eventually link up to the Lutron Smartbridge hub that talks the ClearConnect protocol. By all accounts, it's the least fully-featured hub, really just talks to lights and window shades, oh, and the smoke detectors. And yet it appears to be the most responsive and reliable.

    Microsoft is behind the Insteon line of stuff, that talks through your electrical system like the old X-10 devices.

    Zigbee is already dead

    Z-wave appears to be what everyone else uses. But all of the products seem to be featureful but unreliable. Hopefully that will improve someday.

    Apple has its own thing, but I stopped reading there.

    And Google has Nest and stuff, which seems interesting, but maybe not hackable enough for me.

    Plus a bunch of open source stuff, a lot of which uses the Raspberry Pi, which I find intriguing. But I don't want to spend too much time rolling my own either.

  186. Observatory by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

    While I was still with my ex-wife her father was building a small observatory in his back yard. Just big enough for him, a desk for a computer, and his 8" or 10" telescope. He lived in the suburbs so he had to get a filter for the type of street lighting the city used. Too bad I never got to see it because I broke up with my ex before it was done but it was fun planning how to build it with him.

  187. Wiring is cheap and useful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Basically, if you are installing from scratch, I'd say make all lighting circuits home-run and retrofittable for 12V DC lighting instead of AC lighting in the future. Make sure every location where you would potentailly put a TV has wiring run to a central distribution location for network and video, or at least several CAT6e cables from that location to the central location. This will aid in implementing distributed A/V and A/V control in the future.

    At every light switch location, put a couple more CAT6e cables there - this will also work for PoE and/or advanced control interfaces at those locations. Same thing with wherever your heating/cooling switches are.

    IF you have gas, make sure to run a gas line to the outside, so that if you want to hook up a BBQ you have an available location outside for it. Same thing if you want to have any kind of external congregation point - run several CAT6e cables out there in the event you might want to have distributed A/V or lighting controls out there in the future.

    Running cable in a home is cheap, and with the wide variety of tranceivers and baluns these days, adapting video or control signals to CAT6e cabling is not horribly expensive anymore. And CAT6e cabling is dirt cheap when purchased in bulk.

    Additionally, look into noise absorbing drywall, and also sound abating for walls - by placing firebreaks at odd angles, you help reduce noise leak in the walls by eliminating symmetric sound cavities that can create standing waves, etc.

  188. My Hit List by randalware · · Score: 1

    Conduit runs to every room, with multiple walls in the TV/Entertainment rooms.
    Conduit runs to an patch panel (fiber & ethernet) in a secureable area in basement with airflow, power, equipment rack.

    more power outlets in Kitchen & TV/Ent room

    A charging shelf with power outlet (kitchen/bedroom/?) depend on your family

    A cleanout y fitting for the sewer, give the rotorooter snake a straight shot to the sewer line.

    A pet litter box spot, a pet exit, & a pet sleeping spot ( pet bath spot for the fanatic)

    Make your house mantainable & safe.

    Luxury where you will use it and not too fancy to use or clean !

    I have more, but I gotta go.

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  189. rack, not dryer by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1

    Why even have a powered dryer? Just amazes me how people are really sold on the things. Uses a lot of energy to speed up clothes drying, as if those who can afford a dryer can't afford enough clothes to give the wash time to dry on a rack. It's less wear and tear on clothes to hang them to dry, rather than tumble them some more. Now, some people complain that the clothes aren't all nice and soft and fluffy when dried that way. The powered dryer alone can't get the clothes soft either, have to use fabric softener. A lot of those fabric softener sheets use dangerous chemicals, such as phthalates. And there are fabric softeners that are meant to be added to the washer rather than the dryer.

    I'd like to see a closet especially made for hanging wet clothes up to dry as well as clothes storage. I thought perhaps this closet could run the length of the house so that the ends could be opened to the outdoors to create a breezeway. Use screens of course, to keep bugs out. Put it on one side of the house, the side next to all the bedrooms. It would be a labor saver too. Instead of moving clothes from washing machine to dryer and then to storage, this system would have the user moving clothes just once, from washer to storage. Could put the laundry room at one end of the closet, or right in the middle. Since the closet is on an exterior wall, could make the entire outside wall open to outdoor air, for faster drying.

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    1. Re:rack, not dryer by ClayDowling · · Score: 1

      My wife saw a smaller design for such a thing recently, essentially a small closet in the laundry room with a lot of screens to lay clothes on and a fan to draw air. It's on the todo list when the existing much hated laundry room cabinets are ripped out. It will dry faster than just a rack, and it won't damage the clothes.

    2. Re:rack, not dryer by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      This is horribly slow in humid climates, adds substantial required area to homes (clothes that are drying can't be packed as densely as those that already are dry), and doesn't account for items normally stored in drawers (e.g., underwear/socks). Viable in Las Vegas, total mess in New York.

    3. Re:rack, not dryer by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1

      Humidity is a problem, but it still worked in New York City.. There are old pictures of full clothes lines between high rise tenements there. Those lines were also useful for transporting small goods, such as a cup of sugar for the neighbor, or food for the infirm to save themselves a lot of stair climbing.

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    4. Re:rack, not dryer by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      That's true, but it's a far cry from your proposal of having special drying/storage closets, which was my point. Not to mention that the aesthetics will doom any such proposal.

  190. Don't worry about the tech of today. by millst · · Score: 0

    Who cares about what cool tech there is today, in a few years it will be obsolete. Think about making your home as upgrade friendly as possible. Wireless is cool, but you can never have enough wire running through a house. If I was building new, I would run a pair of CAT6 to every wall and every light switch. I'd also lay DC power cable next to your AC cable, it isn't going to be long before battery tech makes DC homes more common so be prepared for it by putting the wiring in now while it is easy. I'd run speaker cables to each room including the ceilings and down walls to make it easy to put speakers anywhere. I'd spend money on a good patching system and rack cabinet and build it into the house design so you don't have to clamber around in the roof to change things. Invest in good infrastructure and you will never ever regret it, forget about the tech right now or you will narrow down the infrastructure you put in and limit what you can do in the future. Don't assume that everything will be wireless in the future. Wireless stuff is great but it will never be as great as the wired equivalent.

  191. My thoughts by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

    A beer volcano and fine strippers?

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  192. A dream dome by Gnaythan1 · · Score: 1

    If in a city, I'd make sure conduit was in all the walls, to account for any pipes or wires of the future. designed in a way to always be able to get at them. maybe wainscoting. That's really all for tech in the city, whatever makes sense and is affordable at the time I suppose.

    If in the country (more likely for me) I want a monolith dome (a brand of concrete dome created by filling a bladder with air, then adding basalt rebar and spray on concrete in multiple layers. I'd bury said dome deep into the side of a hill, with the top open with a patio and large skylight. windows all around the unburried parts. Same deal as the city dwelling with the wainscoting, prepare for change.

    This hobbit hole would be designed for comfort, and I'd hire a permaculture specialist to landscape the area with a variety of complementary plants in layers to create a food forest. Integrating solar panels, a water still/desalinator, and a geodesic greenhouse and workshop or two into the landscaping as well.

    From the outside you would not be able to tell there was a 2000 foot radius three story specious dome built into the hill. It would look far smaller and more humble. ALL wiring and plumbing designed for easy access and upgrading just in case the standards change.

    I want this building to be able to last a thousand years. Hopefully, with me alive in it. Meh, depends on whether we get a few medical breakthroughs before I get too old.

    But that's just the fancy of an old nerd who's vision of technology is a little different.

  193. Premium Kitchen Countertops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Based upon current high demand renos and installs, go with a premium countertop treatment. Granite, quartz, whatever.

    Having given the primary client of those services what they want, you'll have no trouble getting your wish list approved. Go full-on Man Cave if you like!

  194. Really bad place to ask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd put in a AI access control, facial detection/recognition, night vision, Wind/Solar, with redundant battery backup, Color changing paint for interior/exterior, LCD touch screens in most of the home, voice recognition, etc...

    Yes, I can think of a LOT more these are just a few. WiFi, is too slow. And the benefits of fiber to every room is miniscule your better off with a wired system inside with a external fiber hookup.

  195. My List... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    External surveillance.

    Solar PV, battery storage, fueled generator backup.

    Fiber and CAT6+ in every room. Decent wiring panel. Switches installed. Whole house firewall. WiFi APs in the best spots right up front.

    LED lighting, Occupancy sensing controls. RGB LEDs and color control, with inputs for environmental sensing and adaptation.

    Whole house interior and backyard/patio sound system with both wired and wireless controls.

    Electric locks on all exterior doors, PIN pads and secure web control.

    Garage door opener with secure web-based control, and monitoring.

    I know, it's cute when someone says 'secure this or that'. There is no security. Let's include a home security system and server with robust and replicated logging. At least I can reasonably know I was hacked, trespassed, and violated. Maybe. Add in some intelligent monitoring and notification to the police, me, and the wife at least.I don't need the optional Facebook/Twitter posting module, though it would be fun to post the intruder's face in real time.

    Oh, and alarms on external components like the A/C unit, pool equipment, people steal the darnedest stuff.

    In Arizona, solar assist hot water.

    For a pool, the obvious variable speed pump etc. More surveillance.

    For the patio (Arizona, remember) a full outdoor kitchen, which is not really technology, but too important.

    And built-in safes, for valuables and separate ones for firearms, one in the bedroom and one elsewhere. Fingerprint tech of course.

    Ho tech and Lo tech FTW.

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  196. Re:Double Width Exterior Walls and Ductless HVAC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > open all the windows...

    I guess that depends on where you live. When I lived in Jacksonville on the river and near the ocean, we could cool the house off nicely at night with our attic fan, but the next day it would take hours for the AC running continuously to drop the humidity enough so that it could start cooling the house. I've seen the AC run constantly for over two hours without dropping the temperature a single degree. It is actually much cheaper to use the AC 24/7 and keep the humidity low than it was to open the windows. After all, the AC is much more efficient at night when it is cooler than it is during the day. You were intentionally not running your AC while it was most efficient to do so.

    In my first job, I worked on environmental control systems for Honeywell in the early 80s. We found with actual measurements that pulling in outside cooler air was still a net loss unless the outside air was very dry. Of course this was in Georgia and Florida, so in extremely dry places that have 50% rel humidity that won't be as true.

  197. Plan for flexibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whatever you decide to put in, it will be wrong, eventually. The most important thing is to build for flexibility: cable trays... access panels... Make it easy to run wires. Make your roof accessible - I guarantee you'll want to fuss with antennas. Have a central wiring closet that's just for wiring and electronics. Route everything through it. and make it bigger than you think you'll need. I've got 10 GigE everywhere, but I only use it for disk arrays and servers: for everything else it's pointless & totally supplanted by modern WiFi. For lighting control I've been very happy with Insteon.

  198. Geothermal heating and cooling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Geothermal heating and cooling.

    CAT5e, coax, and fibre to every room. Whole house networking through a patch panel for both networking and video distribution. You never want to have wifi in your home, unless absolutely mandatory.

    Skylights - sun tunnels, natural lighting.

    Automatic lawn mower, edger.

    High-end gutter guards that NEVER need cleaning. Trust me on this!

    If your location is prone to day-long power outages, a whole house power generator.

    I can't speak to solar or wind power, neither make any sense where I live and the nuclear plant about 100 mi away is doin' fine.

  199. Cable by pcjunky · · Score: 1

    Cat 6 cable, lots of Cat 6 cable.

  200. Something Lost to the Ages by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

    I would do something that modern constructors have forgotten to do: have all your big windows (or, at minimum, master bedroom) on the side of the house that faces the equator. This means in the winter you get sunlight as heating, and in the summer you get less direct sunlight, meaning a cooler house.

    The house I live in currently, built a scant twenty years ago, has the MBR windows facing west, which means crazy AC costs in the summer (Texas!) just to get the MBR under 80 degrees F when it's time to go to sleep. It's unbearable, but boy was the house cheap.

  201. Re:Double Width Exterior Walls and Ductless HVAC by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

    We would open all the windows and by the morning the house would be around 65 degrees.

    Oh, would that Texas weren't so humid, I'd be doing this, too. But nothing like waking up to a raincloud in your house in August in Texas! The front doors in Houston sweat.

  202. Don't forget the old tech by guacamole · · Score: 1

    Run a Cat 6 cable into every bedroom, office, and living room. Nothing beats GigE, not even close, despite of several years of "gigabit Wireless AC" and the new "gigabit powerline" tech, the truth is that under a typical real life scenario those give you at best maybe twice the speed of 100Mbpbs Ethernet.

  203. Nice try. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > ... What Cool New Tech Would You Put In?

    Put in, eh?

    You think you're so smart, don't you?

    You and your subliminal references... but we can figure you out, don't ever doubt that! BTW, get a shirt, you might get a cold or something...

    Regards.

    Ol' bummer.

  204. Clean room style air flow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    most air conditioning in and out vents are small and localized, and often both are in the ceiling.

    Set up intake vents on the floor, and out vents in the ceiling, and have a steady stream of air, instead of periodic hard blasts of air.

    at only ~1mph constant air flow, this drastically decreases the amount of dust that will collect on surfaces.

  205. Pex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pex single home run plumbing (less joints = less possibility for leaks, plus it's somewhat freeze proof). Open wiring in conduit attic or crawlspace so if it ever needs modified you don't have to open walls. I.e. Box down into crawlspace then back up to next box. Electric shutoff separate from main breaker. Cat 6e to each room. Built in sound wiring for home theater and audio outlets in each common area and bath. Underfloor hydronic radiant. In wall toilets. One wall in every room a chase with an access panel.

  206. Soundproofing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the best investments I've made in my house was a proper layer of soundproofing in the ceiling/floor between two bedrooms. Typical designs involve a ceiling that 'floats' on metal isolation clips, with two layers of heavy drywall with a damping compound between them (Green Glue), plus some other items/concerns. It's not truly soundproof, but can produce a very noticeable reduction in noise.

    It's not flashy (in fact, it's entirely invisible once installed) but it's a bit of tech that can definitely make a home more livable (particularly if there are current or future teenagers in the picture.)

  207. Fire safety stuff by thogard · · Score: 1

    Have a large diamater garden hose attchment near a main water shutoff valve for everything else. That way if your washer is on fire and burns its supply hose, you can have enough water pressure in a garden hose.

    If you live in an area where fires are common, metal sprinklers on the outside of the house.

    Have the smoke alarms trip the power (except to the lights). There are modules that fit in the electrical box that will trip the circuit breakers next to them that can be wired to most A/C powered linkable smoke detectors. The trick is to get fire detectors that work in the laundry and kitchen that won't activate due to humidity.

    Consider a storm shelter that is appropriate for the region. i.e. something that can't flood and isn't a trap if the house falls on it.

  208. Power by xlsior · · Score: 1

    We had a house built a few years ago, and in hindsight the biggest thing I would have done differently are the power lines. A standard A/C PowerLine is 15 amp, which isn't much when an average laserprinter can easily pull around 9 all by itself. Two pc's and a laptop on the same circuit = tripped breaker when the laserprinter kicks in.

    In hindsight, each wall in our office room should have been on its own dedicated circuit, just to deal with the incidental spikes in power draw.

    Another thing would be to keep a close eye on the work performed by the contractor that pulls the cables - even though we had a pre-install walk through on what kind of cabling to put where, we realized long after the fact that some of them had been skipped during installation, including cable & ethernet drops in the large hallway closet where I intended to put the cable modem and WiFi router down the road.

    Last but not least: don't skimp on actual wiring, the price difference between a high-grade cat-6 and blue light special cat-5 is insignificant, but can save a lot of headaches for years to come.

    Also, depending on where you live, consider landscaping options. It's a lot easier to do things right the first time, rather than try to move things around later. Depending on where you live, it can save much troubles to go with some drought resistant / low maintenance options.

  209. 'Wire' your house for water by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

    I mean a recirculating water run, a slightly inclined track of water in glass channel running along the walls... that begins at the highest elevation of the house and leads through every room of the house as it descends, passing through small openings next to doorways or the corners where walls meet. The channel should be wide enough to accommodate the passage of a small rubber duck.

    In the middle of wall spaces you might have a small channel or hole to allow a bit of water to divert into various wall-mounted contrivances such as tiny waterwheels, various resonant metallic or glass surfaces that resonate when dripped upon, where it's overflow passes via tube to a lower elevation of the main channel in another room, or a drain channel, if you can spare the loss of water volume. The water movement may itself contribute a comfortable background noise, but you may be able to amplify it by placing shapes along the bottom of the main channel that introduce turbulence.

    At the terminus directly below the origin, a vertical bucket lift would ensure that the rubber duck and other floating items are always headed somewhere. Due to the large surface area of this concept and difficulty to clean you might have to keep the water mostly sterile with a bit of disinfectant to discourage algal growth in the water. keeping it slightly acidic to elevate surface tension for best drip sounds.

    Thus if you're wiring your house for water, you might also commit to a separate plant system that delivers wholesome plant-water to each room, with a touch of hydroponic nutrients and a overflow drain ffor recirculation. Then pots or vine anchors or window trellis can be served by a watering system run for a couple minutes a day, each plant container tapped to receive a sufficient amount of watering.

    Or if you like cats, just substitute cats for the water. WARNING: Your heart may explode.

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    <blink>down the rabbit hole</blink>
  210. home automation by TheRecklessWanderer · · Score: 1

    I didn't see anyone talking about home Automation. There are some decent options for automating lights and other things such as irrigation control, door locks and thermostat control. Lighting control is fun to play with, and you can set up a server or web appliance to control it though a web page. One thing that i'd like to have working is a camera on the front door so I can use a tablet to look and see if I want to bother answering the door.

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    Mean what you say...say what you mean.
  211. Appletalk Cable Runs by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    Make sure you install cable runs of Appletalk cable. In case Apple ever becomes 'cool' again so you can have all your Macs share the laser printer.

  212. Re: As Little As Possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep. My ideal home is bare minimum tech. Lights, power sockets, Ethernet. No fancy integrated lighting/heating/pool that needs a freaking manual and tech support (seriously, I used to install and maintain that shit... never again). No google nest. No powered windows or blinds. No fscking net connected fridge.

    Keep. It. Simple.

  213. newhouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The best insulation you can afford.
    Instant hot water everywhere!!!!
    I would wire with at least cat5+, your wireless will work anyway.
    Go all electric. WE are past peak oil and gas.
    The best windows you can afford.
    Radiant floor.

    I built my house 7 years ago on Vancouver Island, BC, Canada and even when we had cold weather, not so much now, we couls run our house for $100.00 @ month.
    roly

  214. A Rocket Mass Heater by AttillaTheNun · · Score: 1

    So I can heat my home with cardboard waste and tree trimmings from my yard.

  215. Electrical outlet (GFCI) behind toilets by mikeb2616 · · Score: 1

    I have fallen in love with using a bidet toilet seat. I feel unclean now if I just wipe with paper. It just connects to the water line. It is cold, but cleansing. However, warm water would be nicer. Some electric models can even air dry.

  216. My Wish List: by kf6auf · · Score: 1

    Conduit-cabling
    Insulation, double or triple paned glass unless you live somewhere it's 65-80 degrees year round
    Photovoltaic panels and solar hot water heater
    LED strip lighting
    Induction stovetop
    Ground-source heat pump for heating and cooling
    Vent the refridgerator to outside if you live somewhere hot
    240V power in the garage
    Power outlets in garage should be wired so the top outlet connects to a different breaker than the bottom outlet, so you can use high-power devices in both at once
    Skylights
    Heated floors in bathrooms (and maybe living areas)
    Grey water system to direct wastewater from everywhere except your toilets to your yard
    Septic system you'd need emptied every decade or so for your toilets
    Rainwater collection tank
    Fruit trees in the yard instead of purely decorative trees
    Dual-flush toilets
    Instant hot water tap in kitchen
    And I really shouldn't have to say this but for crying out loud, if you're going to put a toilet in a separate room, include a sink so you can wash your hands before touching everything!

  217. Not the usual concepts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An EE friend designed and built the 'Home of the Future" thirty years ago, It lasted five years. A new house must be more changeable.

    The best feature of my house is a hot water pump that circulates the hot water throughout the house. It is nearly instant on hot water.

    I would consider solar panels for basic 12 volt house lighting. Just the background lighting in all, and I mean all, rooms.

    And another set of panels for the air conditioner. And let really cool the house. After all its free. In the winter it could be used to supply some resistance heating.

  218. Aerogel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aerogel insulation everywhere.

  219. Universal design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Universal design," From Wikipedia (the source of all, often accurate information):

    "Universal design...refers to broad-spectrum ideas meant to produce buildings, products and environments that are inherently accessible to older people, people without disabilities, and people with disabilities."

    As we age, there is increasing probability that you may be in a wheelchair, may not be able to bend over easily to an electrical outlet 6 inches from the floor, may not be able to reach easily in the back of a kitchen cabinet, may have trouble navigating in and out of a typical bathtub (hence all those ads on late night TV for bathtubs with little doors), and many more including...

    A biggie: when you are old you may have major limitations moving past steps inside or outside a house.
    One of my friends lives in a wonderful designer house. But, it is on a slope of a hill. There are steps to get down from the parking area, the living room is about 5 feet lower than the rest of the indoors, the outside yard has several different levels of elevation. None of these changes in elevation are wheel chair accessible.

    Most of this isn't high tech. Planning ahead can avoid a situation where, should someone incur future disabilities, they can no longer live in their home. It can also be cheaper that retrofitting.

  220. Eliminate blinds, shades, and curtains... by swooshxx · · Score: 1

    Smart glass (electrochromic) windows.

  221. Opportunity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This would be a wonderful opportunity to make use of passive cooling for any central computing you have. Run all your cable ducting to a central wiring closet that has a floor vent into an under-house space which will be perpetually cool and then run air ducts to the roof and bedrooms. In the summer, air heated by servers and switched can dumped outside, maybe using the chimney updraft effect and in the winter warm air can be directed into bedrooms for heating.
    Also, make sure you run fibre and Cat6 EVERYWHERE!

  222. my dream house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mesh based sensor net with pressure sensors underground...
    perimeter surveillance in infrared and visible light
    some sort of radar to keep track of everything in the air
    a minefield with remotely detonateable mines 200 meters around the compound, with sharp metal spikes 5cm apart and 5-10 cm tall covering whole mined area...
    Lets see them run through that, eheheh.

    10-20 machinegun turrets, automated as well, and integrated into the rest of systems
    a few mortars on gimballed mounts, just to spice things up, integrated with rest

    and some fosgen gas dispensers near the entrance, to make sure whoever gets through all that doesn't live too long.
    and maybe some anti aircraft missile tubes for the lulz..

    and drones, a few hundred of those, with some kind of projectile weapon or an explosive charge on each.
    maybe a remote controlled tank/bulldozer or ten, to patrol the area..

    and as last line of... defence? a jet engine inside a 5-10 ton "door" that blocks the entrance to the control room, and is accessable only by a long and straight corridor, which incidentally has a machinegun emplacement in the back :)

    and the whole thing is at least 200 meters underground, in solid rock, Gibraltar style.

    oh, and a latte with two shots of espresso. please :)

  223. Bricks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dont know where you're from, but here its pretty standard to use bricks to build homes. (versus wood)

  224. low voltage lighting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Run a low voltage bus throughout your home and tap it for task lighting and other appropriate uses.

    Bug plus if you put up some solar panels, as you can store DC power with inverter losses.

  225. Dream Home by visionbeyond · · Score: 1

    If money weren't a factor (which is never the case) the list of things I would add would be long, but a few items would definitely be convenient. Like everyone has one side of their house that faces to the West, and in the evening the sun shines through those windows annoyingly bright. Sure there are blinds and curtains, which do the job of blocking it, but I'd much rather have the LCD glass that goes from clear all the way to a limo tint with just a tiny electrical current (like a AA would last a year). I'd also definitely have everything wired for remote operation, so door locks, lights, and power outlets at a minimum. The HVAC would have motorized and controlled duct flow control to allow for the temperature control in each room to control the temperature in that room to whatever you want. I saw a really cool system on "This New House" where they used the swimming pool, and underground huge tank, and the house itself in this system that used thermodynamics to heat the house and pool in the winter and burn off heat for A/C in the summer and was basically completely self-sustaining with the whole system being powered by solar panels. Very cool. Oh the list of gadgets and innovative goodies is always so much longer and larger than my budget and savings... if I had any savings.

  226. Power to your doorbell by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 1

    This is a small suggestion, Aside from obvious cat6 wiring (which I did), the thing I wish my house had, was AC power going to the door bell. What my doorbell actually had was some Low Voltage wires that went through the whole house to a giant transformer mounted in a hallway, with some more low voltage wires going from there to an old AC adapter in the garage. This is a pretty common setup for wired doorbells.

    What I would rather have is a regular AC access point near the doorbell. Then you can have a doorbell/camera/intercom system. A few of these already exist, but I expect them to get better.

    For now I am trying to find the most painless way to get power to my doorbell, because I don't want to be running a camera/wifi off a battery.

  227. Wired Cable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cable for clothes, the better to dry as quickly as possible

  228. Off grid & lo by servant · · Score: 1
    Fiber available, but 1G is good everywhere, including to access points inside monolithic dome built like a faraday cage. If cable or fiber is available, consider it over using satellite (but that will work if required). Have internal caching DNS and cloud storage so not dependant on outside network for most things. Have all cabling in conduit so it can be re-pulled as new tech comes along (better cable or fiber or whatever is next). 'Home Runs' to the 'cable closet' where server(s)/cloud/etc lives. Power done 'home run' rather than daisy chained.
    .

    Plumbing / main wiring via a 'utility corridor' to make maintenance easy.

    Solar power with emergency generator, NiFe battery.

    Both vapor barrier and air block membranes throughout, 2x the recommended insulation as well.

    Prefer Monolithic Dome (monolithic.com) built to be FEMA near tornado proof (wrong term, but ultra hardy in all kinds of weather and storms).

    Rainwater catchment system with option for potable water use from it.

    Concrete (properly sealed) or wood hard floors.

    Cool using indirect evaporative air conditioning or mini-split if refrigeration is the only way.

    4 car garage/shop with heat and air separate from living space (but nice covered walk between. (half of area is 'shop')

    Easy to mow with 'robot mowers' (design for it, not back into it).

    Ceiling fans (we love them) throughout. Prefer similar to BigAss Fan Haiku series.

    LED lighting throughout. Projection video to inside of dome surface!

    Lots of outside light, directly or with solar tubes like Solatube in prescribed areas.

    Home control system that is understandable and works without much 'input' from users (btw Haiku fans now do some of this themselves!)

    Energy efficient appliances & windows.

    Parking/driveway with permeable concrete or pavers. Allows water to soak in if not collected. Permeable concrete can also collect water if put over impermeable area.

    Yes, I dream of a lot. Even more if I think about it. Most is doable. But I am starting to get of the age it isn't going to get done. ... Oh well.

    --
    ... "When you pry the source from my cold dead hands."
  229. More features than tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's mostly features rather than "tech" per se...

    At least one dedicated circuit per room (hallway & restroom outlets get their own circuits). *Clearly label* what's what in the breaker box, and logically layout your circuits. If it was me, I'd have a secondary breaker box in the kitchen and in the laundry room (with HVAC plugged into it).

    Put 2x-4x cat 6 or 7 (whatever 10GB ethernet's going to use) per room

    Easy access to all plumbing.

    Radiant floor heating is awesome.

    Some other things too, but I've gotta go.

  230. Re:Just GBE everywhere! WITH PATCH PANEL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Outstanding list!
    If you are considering home automation, I would recommend running something like CAT5 to all doors and windows, to carry signals for sensors. You may eventually have Ethernet-equipped sensors, but you can use the same cable for a "dumb" sensor like reed switches that just need 2 wires run. Home-run these to the same closet as your network, but put them in a separate patch panel. No need to use the expensive CAT6, plus if they're different you can tell whether they're data or home automation just by looking at the jack.
    Also run CAT5 cables (or you may consider CAT6 for this) to various corners of your house both inside and out for video cameras and/or motion sensors.
    I'd also run speaker cables back to a common endpoint so that I can set up a sound system that (eventually) follows me around. Until the capability to detect your location is set up, the home automation system can be set up to put sound in a given room manually. Certainly not a requirement, but something you might consider.

  231. Desired feature by redbaritone · · Score: 1

    I would like a doorbell that shocks the hell out of Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and pretty much anyone that weighs more than 100 lbs.

  232. My home bucket list by Methadras · · Score: 1

    Total off-grid capabilities; Solar, Wind, Battery Backup, Diesel backup. Automated home audio/video Water purification/softening technology In-house fiber with as much wireless capabilities as possible including wireless video Automated lighting with full LED technology and upgradable to next gen lighting I would build the home out of steel and not wood. I would put several sub-levels if I could. Sound proofing technology wherever I could.

  233. Nuclear silo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd look for a property with a nuclear silo on it. And then I'd make that silo operational, and declare the property my own country, and then hire the silo out to the highest bidder.

    I'm sure someone would be interested.

  234. MY HOME by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

    In thinking about a new home, I would look at industry and how wiring and water runs are done. See if you can have a wiring closet.

    If a new technology arrives that requires fibre, or requires 12 volt distribution, I would certainly plan that new wiring could be done without having to break ceilings, or walls, other than at outlets.

    And I would have a 200amp 220v entrance, (which is what I have in my home), and with today's technology, protection devices for lightning caused voltage surges and the like. I would get a few 1k watt UPS's and some car batteries and build a backup system in case of power loss that could cause freezer or fridge content loss. And I would look at a dual internet system one of which has vpn only access to a second system, Reserve this system for automation. You should be able to vpn from the www to check on the internal system.

    And I would not overdo the spending. You still want to be able to live and to enjoy stress free living.

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    Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
  235. A bunch of (mostly non-tech) ideas by BevanFindlay · · Score: 1

    Several people have commented on going passive thermal, good insulation, etc, and really, these are the things that you will value long-term (as well as, by the sounds of the type of person you are, the "hackability" - which is where the often-reiterated conduit comments come in, as that really is your best option - well, any easily-accessible cable run system; I suggested false ceilings further up as another alternative).

    If going concrete slab foundation (probable nowadays), put a layer of expanded polystyrene under it. This thermally isolates the house from the ground, and means you can do things like passive solar, using that concrete block as your heat storage.

    Of course, if you care about the environment, you are better off minimising soil disturbance, so instead of cut-and-fill as is common now, build around the existing landforms and use piling instead of a concrete slab (a piled house has the advantage that it's potentially more flood-resistant, and it gives you a crawl space that will be very useful for running cables in future).

    Some of the suggestions are very region-specific; do you need to worry about pipes freezing? Is it dry or wet where you live? How much is heat or cold going to be an issue? Snow? Tornadoes? Rain? Drought? How much does the local climate affect your design decisions? (e.g. Southern California is going to be quite different to Seattle, which will be quite different to Florida - and these are assuming, like others here, that you are in the USA; something like Norway or Fiji or Egypt would be very different again). Design for the local conditions (e.g. don't make a grass lawn if you live in a desert - that's just dumb, and irresponsible). Local building codes, water take laws, height restrictions, material availability, etc matter a lot, as do things like whether your specific plot of land has covenants on it.

    Build responsibly: have a think about the ecological and economic impacts of what you are doing. Look at life-cycle analyses for everything, and if you can, try to get the best score on whatever local "green star" certification system is available (not only will this mean you have a more energy-efficient home, you also minimise environmental impact, and usually - somewhat counter-intuitively - your build cost as well). Recycled materials are great (shipping containers, crushed glass and waste paint in concrete - also can look amazing when polished - recycled wood, recycled aggregate/crushed concrete). Depending on where you are, you might have to do some work to find local suppliers and contractors who will work with (or know how to work with) such things, but it is worth it.

    As long as it's not a desert, make use of your stormwater. At the very least, go for a low-impact build (green roof - added insulation as well - or raingardens, or any number of other neat solutions), or simply run it to a tank and use it for grey water (watering the garden, flushing toilets) - or even as your primary water source. A water tank above ground level is harder to build, but means it doesn't need a pump (be creative).

    If you are going really crazy with your tech ideas, consider crawlspaces. You probably don't need these in every wall (though the fun you could have with secret passageways should not be understated!), but even just under the house or in the ceiling would make accessing conduits etc easier (also, think about the roof structural design, and whether or not you can actually negotiate it without needing to be a contortionist or a midget). A totally bonkers but awesome idea would be a full-height tunnel that runs under the structure as a "backbone" for all your services - if you're feeling really crazy, this could even go to the property boundary, making service relocations a breeze - and, even the option to check the mailbox in the rain! (I once got a tour of a large auditorium that had one of these running under the carpark, and it was pretty awesome - would be especially so if you have kids). You won't need to care about the

    1. Re:A bunch of (mostly non-tech) ideas by BevanFindlay · · Score: 1

      Oh, and do the wiring yourself, then get an electrician to just check it. That way, you have control on quality, and you save a lot of money.

  236. House Attributes by kackle · · Score: 1

    1) A "whole house" fan. They are very nice if you're not super-sensitive to temperature (i.e., gotta have the AC on all the time); it's like an instant breeze from each window and can even cool the house down before turning on the pricey AC.

    2) A fireplace insert that houses small fans itself. This also can save on the bills if you're in a woodsy area with much dead wood/branches.

    3) I bought empty property and may put a custom house on it some day. My dream (which is not for everyone) is to wire it with 120 VAC AND a 12-volt DC bus to every room.

    I think everyone is getting wrong, which is why solar hasn't taken off. Expensive inverters? Rows of costly batteries taking room in the basement? Hugely expensive solar panels? And major labor costs to put it all in?

    I think the bigger home motors need to remain 120 VAC (refrigerators, etc.). Whereas many of our modern devices (televisions, etc.) could be run directly off of 12 VDC.

    My plan would be this: Devise a standard, DC port (with circuit breaker) for each room. Throw a couple of $100 car batteries in the basement hooked to a DC breaker panel with the battery's own AC-adapter trickle power supply. Add $200 solar panels to the roof, etc., one-at-a-time, whenever I have the cash/mood, and connect each to the DC bus (with appropriate diodes everywhere). Add an external, weather-proof DC port too so that the family car can possibly connected for charging the car's dead battery, or, in reverse, partially running the house after a long power outage. (I experimented and found I could keep food chilled indefinitely during an outage by filling pots with ice from the local store, and stuffing the pots into the refrigerator. Just like they did over a century ago!)

    Now here's part where being an electronics designer is required: Each electronic device would need to be internally modified so it accepts the 12 VDC. I know this is a dream for most people, but I look forward to a day (should I Kickstart it?) where such small devices accept 120 VAC OR 12 VDC. Then, the would be plug and play. Until the, I'll just have to mod my stuff myself (have already done in the past) or use those cheapo cigarette light inverters for automobiles.

  237. Subscribe to by mundlapati · · Score: 1
  238. Conduit FTW. And Documentation! Lotsa sockets. by billstewart · · Score: 1

    I live in a condo. It was built in the 1970s, with the kind of high quality building where right angles weren't really a requirement, just kind of a suggestion, cement subfloor needed to be smooth enough to cover with carpet, not actually good enough to replace with wood later, redwoods and other trees were planted too near the buildings so we're having root problems, etc. Even though some of the folks have been here since the beginning (and it's only a 32-unit complex), nobody's got a bloody clue where lots of the wiring and plumbing is. We know where a few parts of it are, but how the plumbing or electricity gets between the upstairs and downstairs units is mostly a mystery, and when the cable company wanted to replace the old analog system with digital, they just ran new cables on the outside of the building and made holes because they couldn't figure out what was going on inside (so I've got some really convenient cable jacks that aren't on the new system.)

    But yeah, conduit is the way to future-proof any communication technology that does need wires. Also, heating/cooling ducts can be really useful (both for themselves, and for adding in wire later if you didn't have conduit.) I currently live in a part of California that has lots of buildings with electric heat (lowest upfront cost to the builder, and my annual heat costs are higher than when I lived somewhere with actual winter), and we don't really know how the 220V line gets from the thermostat to the heater, and don't want to rip out the ceiling and walls to trace it. (Before that I lived in a house with steam radiators, which I liked, but there wasn't a way to put in central A/C.)

    Putting in more sockets along the walls than your current electrical code calls for is usually a win, as is home-running them all to the electrical box if you can. I needed more power upstairs, and we had to rip out a bunch of bathroom wall and ceiling to run the cables from the circuit breaker box. Also, you should put in a circuit breaker box that's big enough to add a bunch of random things later, instead of one that just barely has room for the initial wiring.

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  239. I have an HOA, but they're my neighbors by billstewart · · Score: 1

    I'm in a 32-unit condo. Yes, we've got an HOA, but it's just us. We've occasionally hired management companies to do stuff for us, but only when it made sense. And yeah, we've occasionally gotten into arguments, like the current one about what trees need to be cut down (the cheapskate builder who built the place in the 70s did things like planting redwoods and some fast-growing trees right next to the building, so we're having problems with roots and roofs that stay wet all the time, but they are nice for shade. And we do occasionally have people who get grumpy about the monthly fees, but the accountant is one of the residents, you can see all the numbers, and possibly we need to be putting even more into some of the maintenance funds than we do.

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  240. A gorgeous mild tempered computer literate women by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    No joke, you gave one option, had to make it a good one.

  241. Bricks and insulation by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

    I know, not new tech, but sorely missed from most US homes. Even new construction can be done with office supplies and there are so many cracks and gaps right from the start that it is not even funny.

  242. Ground Source Geothermal Heat Pumps by bobwyman · · Score: 1

    To reduce cooling and heating expense as well as reduce environmental impact, I would insist on Geothermal Heat Pumps.

  243. Rainwater harvesting system by KayakFun · · Score: 1

    I built my house in 1993 in the south of the Netherlands, and the rainpipes from the two largest roofs feed into a sieve, and then into a 10 m^3 concrete underground tank. That has (one-way) overflow into the sewage, and one-way suppletion from the water network if the water level is too low. I use that water to flush 2 toilets, for washing laundry (needs less soap as there is no calcium in the water), and watering the garden if needed. So you need dual water piping system, one for drinking, kitchen and shower, and one for the rainwater. It also needs a controller and waterpump to suck up and pressurize the rainwater.

    On the flat roof of my garden shed I have a green roof, with plants. It keeps the shed cool, stores rainwater against sewage system overload, and looks nice from your bedroom window.