You're telling me that the reason that it's worth $90 is BECAUSE IT RUNS SOME WINDOWS APPS? You're fucking kidding me.
No, I'm not kidding you. I am talking about people who want to switch because they are fed up with the fact that windows is a piece of shit. Yet, they feel tied to the OS because nothing else will run that ONE app that they have to have. To that person, $90 may be reasonable.
Windows only costs $100.
Plus $X for McAfee
Plus $X for firewall software (or hardware)
Plus $X on beer to have geek friends help clean up the machine from spyware, virus, etc.
and so on.....
Don't be fooled by the sticker price on the box, windows costs a lot more than $100.
You're telling me that you think users should switch away from the 900lb microsoft gorilla in order to get the freedom (speech) and the freeness (beer) that Linux offers?!? And THEN you tell me that you think users should pay 90% the cost of windows, in order to be able to run a few select windows apps, because they will still need them in order to switch?!?
Again, I disagree that $90 is 90% of the cost. I'm talking about your average joe type consumer that might actually be getting fed up with microsoft crap. The other percentage of just plain clueless will probably just switch over to Mac soon anyway.
If it's only 10% cheaper, and not all your games and apps will work, plus your desktop is somewhat unfamiliar, plus it's generally not as professional and not as good, then why switch?
Because linux (or Mac OS X) is very stable, secure, less likely to be hit by virus or spyware, etc.
That is more than a little naive. While I agree with your statement in principal, the fact of the matter is you are never going to gain market share without first offering users a fairly painless transition.
If this were not the case, many an OS that has fallen by the wayside would be in dominance today. Microsoft Windows is living proof that to be number one, you do not have to be the best. Superior product != Dominance. Sad, but it is true. (Examples: OS/2, BeOS, Mac OS X, and many more)
The biggest advantage I see to OSS is that it is currently trying to offering users as painless a transition as possible, then, once the product is in dominance (like apache for instance) the focus does not shift. The focus can remain to provide a solid, secure, stable, and still somewhat innovative product.
But the most important thing about installers is that they are run once. People base entire distribution reviews on the installer, which is just stupid.
I used to agree with the above statement until I had to help many newbies "Try Out" linux. Most of them had tried to install on their own, but ran into trouble. Once I got it installed, most were impressed. But some were just entirely turned off from the first impression the installer left them with.
Granted, this was a year and more ago, most distros have improved their installers dramatically; however, I would not include debian in that list.
Clicking on any of the dowload links for the Open Source servers now displays....
"Downloads have been temporarily removed due to slashdot."
"Please come back in a few hours."
Ouch.
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Is there not a DelphiX coming out?
C++BuilderX replaces need for Kylix
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Based on my cursory review of the newest release of C++Builder called C++BuilderX, it replaces the need for Kylix.
From their Tech Overview:
"The C++BuilderX IDE runs on Windows, Linux and Solaris and is designed to provide a consistent and unified interface across these platforms..."
So, they have not abandoned *NIX platforms, they have integrated it into their main C++ development product.
As I have tried to post twice, MIT Tech Review has an article regarding the ability to use an inkjet printer to print a semiconductor chip.
It is a very interesting read and even speaks to the possibility of this allowing open source cpu's in the future. Imagine, downloading and printing the latest version of your cpu before upgrading to the n.n kernel it is targeted at:)
The speed is not yet that of a Pentium, but the researcher believes it will be someday.
Wish/. would not have rejected this twice, never understood why!
I believe that the ideal situation is a little of both. Like everytime I boot my Nextstation. I get a pretty screen with a box in the middle that tells me what services are starting and other info.
Just my $0.02
And everytime it has been decried as an evil abomination to try to restrain a library from putting whatever information it deemed appropriate forward.
You answered your own argument. "Whatever they deem appropriate". With most of this software, you have some level of customization and the libraries may only deem it appropriate to monitor rather than block.
Just my $0.02
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Agreed. If these people can keep track of 15 different bingo cards at once, why can't they understand a very simple ballot?
And healthcare in the US is far from being a panacea. 50 million Americans, 20% of the US population, have no form of health insurance coverage. The system is also an inefficient shambles. While the UK ranks 14th in WHO rankings for effectiveness, the US trails in at the number 37 spot.
I see you have swallowed the anti-republican-conservative propaganda being spewed by the socialist Gore campaign. I live in Texas and can proudly say that I was one of the children growing up that did not have health insurance. I don't see what the big fuss is, I didn't have health insurance until it was part of my benefits at work after graduating from college. Yet, everytime I had a cold, or cut my finger, or... I went to a doctor and received immediate treatment.
In Houston over the last few weeks there has been a controversy over the fact that people are calling 911, getting ambulances, and going to the emergency room for simple things like headaches and filling prescriptions. Less than 5% or so ever pay for the ambulance ride, much less the treatment.
If you need care here in America, you can get it, anytime, anyday. Period. In Houston it is at Ben Taub hospital. In the small town I grew up in, it was at the only local hospital. They would not turn anyone away. Pay if you can, over time even.
I just don't see where all this hype that the Gore campaign has been spewing has come from. It really annoys me. They only do it because they need some issue to scare the American people with. That is what they are doing with Prescription Drugs for Seniors, and the Social Security issue. The Democrats are nothing more than fear mongers and it irritates me that people fall for their dribble.
I believe there is a fundamental flaw in the implementation of democracy in our country.
Yes, that flaw would be that it is NOT a democracy. It is a Republic. We have a representative government. You vote for someone who you think will BEST represent you. If that person does not exist on the ballot, run for the office yourself.
As for me, having a true understanding of how our Republic works, I will be voting for George Bush as I believe he will best represent my beliefs.
You asked "I'd be curious to know if anybody reading this believes there's much difference between these two exhausted ideologies, or that the country will be substantially altered if one rather than the other prevails."
I honestly believe that it is very important that the Republicans be given a chance and hope that they win the White House and keep the Congress. I believe that the reason there is so much of the apathy you describe is that we have had 40 years of Democrat control of the Congress. They have been very busy those 40 years passing laws and slowly eating away at our civil liberties, while all the while demonizing others as doing just that.
I agree with an earlier poster who said he would be happy if Congress took a few years off and stopped passing laws. I think, more importantly, we should give the Repulicans a chance to get in there and repeal some of the burdonsome laws.
Granted, I tend to vote Republican; however, I go into each election with an open mind and truly vote for who I believe will represent me the best. However, I have recently come to the decision that I cannot in good conscience vote for a Democrat because I truly believe that they are little more than socialist slowly attempting to chip away at our rights. First it was tobacco, soon it will be SUV's. They are attempting to legislate through lawsuits rather than dealing with the issues upfront.
As for are there difference between the two parties? Yes. I am a conservative (not a Republican) first and foremost. I believe that the conservative movement is about taking responsibility for yourself and only allowing the government to do what it is there for as described in the constitution. I believe that the liberal (Democrat) movement is about having the government pass more and more laws to try and take care of everyone (cradle to grave). They are doing this for no other reason than to create dependants upon them that must continue to vote for them or lose their favorite government program.
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I might play with them!
I prefer to spend my time on computers doing the following.
I guess I just don't have the will power to do both. I even only read
You're telling me that the reason that it's worth $90 is BECAUSE IT RUNS SOME WINDOWS APPS? You're fucking kidding me.
No, I'm not kidding you. I am talking about people who want to switch because they are fed up with the fact that windows is a piece of shit. Yet, they feel tied to the OS because nothing else will run that ONE app that they have to have. To that person, $90 may be reasonable.
Windows only costs $100.
Plus $X for McAfee
Plus $X for firewall software (or hardware)
Plus $X on beer to have geek friends help clean up the machine from spyware, virus, etc.
and so on.....
Don't be fooled by the sticker price on the box, windows costs a lot more than $100.
You're telling me that you think users should switch away from the 900lb microsoft gorilla in order to get the freedom (speech) and the freeness (beer) that Linux offers?!? And THEN you tell me that you think users should pay 90% the cost of windows, in order to be able to run a few select windows apps, because they will still need them in order to switch?!?
Again, I disagree that $90 is 90% of the cost. I'm talking about your average joe type consumer that might actually be getting fed up with microsoft crap. The other percentage of just plain clueless will probably just switch over to Mac soon anyway.
If it's only 10% cheaper, and not all your games and apps will work, plus your desktop is somewhat unfamiliar, plus it's generally not as professional and not as good, then why switch?
Because linux (or Mac OS X) is very stable, secure, less likely to be hit by virus or spyware, etc.
But, I could be wrong.
That is more than a little naive. While I agree with your statement in principal, the fact of the matter is you are never going to gain market share without first offering users a fairly painless transition.
If this were not the case, many an OS that has fallen by the wayside would be in dominance today. Microsoft Windows is living proof that to be number one, you do not have to be the best. Superior product != Dominance. Sad, but it is true. (Examples: OS/2, BeOS, Mac OS X, and many more)
The biggest advantage I see to OSS is that it is currently trying to offering users as painless a transition as possible, then, once the product is in dominance (like apache for instance) the focus does not shift. The focus can remain to provide a solid, secure, stable, and still somewhat innovative product.
But, I could be wrong.
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CodeWeavers CrossOver Office and Plugin makes it able to run any Windows compatible applications on Xandros Desktop.
That alone could justifiy the cash for the average user to be able to make the switch.
Not for me or you, possibly, but for the average joe, compatibility is key.
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But the most important thing about installers is that they are run once. People base entire distribution reviews on the installer, which is just stupid.
I used to agree with the above statement until I had to help many newbies "Try Out" linux. Most of them had tried to install on their own, but ran into trouble. Once I got it installed, most were impressed. But some were just entirely turned off from the first impression the installer left them with.
Granted, this was a year and more ago, most distros have improved their installers dramatically; however, I would not include debian in that list.
My $0.02The all powerful /. effect has struck again.
Clicking on any of the dowload links for the Open Source servers now displays....
"Downloads have been temporarily removed due to slashdot."
"Please come back in a few hours."
Ouch.
Is there not a DelphiX coming out?
Based on my cursory review of the newest release of C++Builder called C++BuilderX, it replaces the need for Kylix.
From their Tech Overview:
"The C++BuilderX IDE runs on Windows, Linux and Solaris and is designed to provide a consistent and unified interface across these platforms..."
So, they have not abandoned *NIX platforms, they have integrated it into their main C++ development product.
My $0.02That explains why they rejected my post, but I did a search in older stuff and did not find anything.
As I have tried to post twice, MIT Tech Review has an article regarding the ability to use an inkjet printer to print a semiconductor chip.
:)
/. would not have rejected this twice, never understood why!
It is a very interesting read and even speaks to the possibility of this allowing open source cpu's in the future. Imagine, downloading and printing the latest version of your cpu before upgrading to the n.n kernel it is targeted at
The speed is not yet that of a Pentium, but the researcher believes it will be someday. Wish
If this replaces ip_chains? Will it allow me to host a game of Tiger Woods 2001 on one of my masqed doze boxes?
:)
I have to have my priorities in order
I believe that the ideal situation is a little of both. Like everytime I boot my Nextstation. I get a pretty screen with a box in the middle that tells me what services are starting and other info. Just my $0.02
You answered your own argument. "Whatever they deem appropriate". With most of this software, you have some level of customization and the libraries may only deem it appropriate to monitor rather than block.
Just my $0.02
Agreed. If these people can keep track of 15 different bingo cards at once, why can't they understand a very simple ballot?
In Houston over the last few weeks there has been a controversy over the fact that people are calling 911, getting ambulances, and going to the emergency room for simple things like headaches and filling prescriptions. Less than 5% or so ever pay for the ambulance ride, much less the treatment.
If you need care here in America, you can get it, anytime, anyday. Period. In Houston it is at Ben Taub hospital. In the small town I grew up in, it was at the only local hospital. They would not turn anyone away. Pay if you can, over time even.
I just don't see where all this hype that the Gore campaign has been spewing has come from. It really annoys me. They only do it because they need some issue to scare the American people with. That is what they are doing with Prescription Drugs for Seniors, and the Social Security issue. The Democrats are nothing more than fear mongers and it irritates me that people fall for their dribble.
As for me, having a true understanding of how our Republic works, I will be voting for George Bush as I believe he will best represent my beliefs.
You asked "I'd be curious to know if anybody reading this believes there's much difference between these two exhausted ideologies, or that the country will be substantially altered if one rather than the other prevails."
I honestly believe that it is very important that the Republicans be given a chance and hope that they win the White House and keep the Congress. I believe that the reason there is so much of the apathy you describe is that we have had 40 years of Democrat control of the Congress. They have been very busy those 40 years passing laws and slowly eating away at our civil liberties, while all the while demonizing others as doing just that.
I agree with an earlier poster who said he would be happy if Congress took a few years off and stopped passing laws. I think, more importantly, we should give the Repulicans a chance to get in there and repeal some of the burdonsome laws.
Granted, I tend to vote Republican; however, I go into each election with an open mind and truly vote for who I believe will represent me the best. However, I have recently come to the decision that I cannot in good conscience vote for a Democrat because I truly believe that they are little more than socialist slowly attempting to chip away at our rights. First it was tobacco, soon it will be SUV's. They are attempting to legislate through lawsuits rather than dealing with the issues upfront.
As for are there difference between the two parties? Yes. I am a conservative (not a Republican) first and foremost. I believe that the conservative movement is about taking responsibility for yourself and only allowing the government to do what it is there for as described in the constitution. I believe that the liberal (Democrat) movement is about having the government pass more and more laws to try and take care of everyone (cradle to grave). They are doing this for no other reason than to create dependants upon them that must continue to vote for them or lose their favorite government program.
Thanks.