Holding research behind a paywall hurts the researcher even more than the public by preventing the kind of widespread exposure that comes from being freely accessible and being indexed by all the search engines. For example, a lot of research in computer graphics is held behind paywalls owned by ACM. But for every article on a given topic behind a ACM paywall, there tends to be three publicly available. Which get more citations? Which do more for the author's reputation?
I don't think it's my imagination: the number of recent graphics papers with substantial contributions behind ACM paywalls seems to be dwindling fast.
Apple is Foxconn's largest customer and Foxconn is Apple's largest supplier. The discussion of workplace ethics, or lack of them, necessarily concerns both. The spectacle of Apple rising to become the world's richest corporation in part by exploitation necessarily invites Apple to answer for itself. So should Foxconn of course, and why don't you get busy on that, ok? Here on Slashdot we see Apple apologists, not Foxconn applogists, except insofar as they are actually Apple apologists.
It's not about who needs to be convinced, it's about who needs to be convinced to investigate. I don't know about you, but I cannot give great credence to the claims of a monitoring organization whose paychecks are written by Apple.
Oh, I did say Foxconn still has skeletons in its closet. Which I firmly believe. Do you think they are lilly white? Do you believe that Foxconn no longer regards its workers as animals?
I said nothing about Foxconn. I spoke of n-hexane poisoning of workers at factories assembling products for Apple. This is about Apple's ethics. And judging by the furious twisting, some of Apple's supporters would appear to hold similar ethics.
Except there wasn't any evidence of workers being poisoned at the factory. Rather there was a previously reported story that occurred several years ago and a thousand miles away that Daisey put into his monologue.
Why did you neglect to mention that the factories involved were working for Apple?
Mike Daisey... has now just achieved the exact opposite of what he was purporting to do.
Oh I don't know about that. If some of the allegations are true, even if evidence was reported incorrectly, all the new publicity only attracts more spotlights. Apple is by no means out of the woods, especially if it turns out there is a coverup, or an organized attempt to deflect real issues by focusing on Daisey.
For instance, underage workers is a serious concern. He represented that he saw underage workers where the correction says that underage workers were rare. If you are interested in this topic, his report would lead you to the false conclusion that underage workers were a problem when they are not.
Well it looks to me like Apple and Foxconn still have plenty of skeletons in the closet, in spite of their indignation over the exact way the material was sourced.
The Smalltalk compiler that I wrote can seamlessly (and with no overhead) call Objective-C methods and C functions.
This is emphatically not the case with Python. The interface to c-linkage code is really, really, really show. Like having to process an ascii string to get at an integer parameter.
Most stupid name for a product ever. Of course, Apple fans will never admit it. Most probably angrily deny it. But even the most rabid fan only needs to wait a couple of months for the stupidity of this marketing strategy to really sink in. Steve Jobs, for all his flaws, never would have stepped in it this way. It is Apple execs trying to fill Steve Jobs' oversized shoes by coming up with something "cool". Like not having a product name. Wow. Impending customer confusion. Must be cool.
Oh look, there are Apple cultists with mod points.
Watching netflifx in bed or on the couch is nice, but you have to prop it up somehow. Netbooks are better for that.
Note really. The attached keyboard may get in the way, or not fit in the space available, and viewing angles are limited. The Xoom had a nice, cheap portfolio case that, unlike the Apple flappy thing, actually holds the device securely and at a nice selection of angles. If you have a table nearby the media dock is really nice, it has great stereo sound, but of course you can get pretty much the same with a good quality set of pc speakers.
You don't watch a movie on your phone (unless you have no other choice), do you?
My G2 (desire Z) actually subtends a larger angle to my eyes than the classic dropdown CRT displays that ruled the long haul airline scene for many years. And has better color than any flat screen display I have yet seen in an airplane.
Unless you plug in a normal keyboard and install normal software as I do with my Xoom. Then the tablet format makes a nice travel computer. Smaller, lighter and longer battery life than any noteboook/netbook I have used, by far. Even with the bluetooth keyboard.
Of course, this strategy requires access to lots of *standard* computer applications, which pretty well makes it practical only for Android. And until Libre/Openoffice lands, its not quite fully there. But good enough that I will may no longer bother to bring along a backup netbook "just in case".
Most stupid name for a product ever. Of course, Apple fans will never admit it. Most probably angrily deny it. But even the most rabid fan only needs to wait a couple of months for the stupidity of this marketing strategy to really sink in. Steve Jobs, for all his flaws, never would have stepped in it this way. It is Apple execs trying to fill Steve Jobs' oversized shoes by coming up with something "cool". Like not having a product name. Wow. Impending customer confusion. Must be cool.
Why do you think interfacing one language with another is hard?
Having a great deal of experience with it - it may be easy, it may be hard. Usually harder than you expect. But it is always a waste of time, if the only reason you are forced to do it is a language implementation deficiency. Which seems to be almost glorified by Python fans, but that is just stupid.
That argument defeats itself. If developer time is expensive, then it should not be wasted interfacing one language to another to overcome needless implementation deficiencies.
Holding research behind a paywall hurts the researcher even more than the public by preventing the kind of widespread exposure that comes from being freely accessible and being indexed by all the search engines. For example, a lot of research in computer graphics is held behind paywalls owned by ACM. But for every article on a given topic behind a ACM paywall, there tends to be three publicly available. Which get more citations? Which do more for the author's reputation?
I don't think it's my imagination: the number of recent graphics papers with substantial contributions behind ACM paywalls seems to be dwindling fast.
I'm done with this conversation.
Really?
Apple is Foxconn's largest customer and Foxconn is Apple's largest supplier. The discussion of workplace ethics, or lack of them, necessarily concerns both. The spectacle of Apple rising to become the world's richest corporation in part by exploitation necessarily invites Apple to answer for itself. So should Foxconn of course, and why don't you get busy on that, ok? Here on Slashdot we see Apple apologists, not Foxconn applogists, except insofar as they are actually Apple apologists.
It's not about who needs to be convinced, it's about who needs to be convinced to investigate. I don't know about you, but I cannot give great credence to the claims of a monitoring organization whose paychecks are written by Apple.
It attracts spotlights to the people that want to see them.
That's the point.
Apple is Foxconn's biggest customer and Foxconn is Apple's biggest supplier.
This is already "trendy". See Starbucks "Fair-Trade" coffee.
+1
Fair Trade org not only esposes high ethical standards, they distribute the best tasting chocolate.
Oh, I did say Foxconn still has skeletons in its closet. Which I firmly believe. Do you think they are lilly white? Do you believe that Foxconn no longer regards its workers as animals?
I said nothing about Foxconn. I spoke of n-hexane poisoning of workers at factories assembling products for Apple. This is about Apple's ethics. And judging by the furious twisting, some of Apple's supporters would appear to hold similar ethics.
A lie by omission is still a lie.
Except there wasn't any evidence of workers being poisoned at the factory. Rather there was a previously reported story that occurred several years ago and a thousand miles away that Daisey put into his monologue.
Why did you neglect to mention that the factories involved were working for Apple?
Mike Daisey... has now just achieved the exact opposite of what he was purporting to do.
Oh I don't know about that. If some of the allegations are true, even if evidence was reported incorrectly, all the new publicity only attracts more spotlights. Apple is by no means out of the woods, especially if it turns out there is a coverup, or an organized attempt to deflect real issues by focusing on Daisey.
For instance, underage workers is a serious concern. He represented that he saw underage workers where the correction says that underage workers were rare. If you are interested in this topic, his report would lead you to the false conclusion that underage workers were a problem when they are not.
You don't know that. Factory workers claim Foxconn hid underage employees prior to inspection
Why did you neglect to mention that Wintek also works for Apple?
Hexane poisoning.
Which did not happen at Foxconn, FYI.
But is still about Apple: In 2009, over 137 workers at Wintek, Suzhou were poisoned by n-hexane. A year later, at least 8 workers at Yun Heng Metal who polished the Apple logos also suffered from n-hexane poisoning (Apple has the iTouch built at Suzhou.)
Well it looks to me like Apple and Foxconn still have plenty of skeletons in the closet, in spite of their indignation over the exact way the material was sourced.
The Smalltalk compiler that I wrote can seamlessly (and with no overhead) call Objective-C methods and C functions.
This is emphatically not the case with Python. The interface to c-linkage code is really, really, really show. Like having to process an ascii string to get at an integer parameter.
Features not marked "experimental" in the kernel config database are out of beta.
Most stupid name for a product ever. Of course, Apple fans will never admit it. Most probably angrily deny it. But even the most rabid fan only needs to wait a couple of months for the stupidity of this marketing strategy to really sink in. Steve Jobs, for all his flaws, never would have stepped in it this way. It is Apple execs trying to fill Steve Jobs' oversized shoes by coming up with something "cool". Like not having a product name. Wow. Impending customer confusion. Must be cool.
Oh look, there are Apple cultists with mod points.
Watching netflifx in bed or on the couch is nice, but you have to prop it up somehow. Netbooks are better for that.
Note really. The attached keyboard may get in the way, or not fit in the space available, and viewing angles are limited. The Xoom had a nice, cheap portfolio case that, unlike the Apple flappy thing, actually holds the device securely and at a nice selection of angles. If you have a table nearby the media dock is really nice, it has great stereo sound, but of course you can get pretty much the same with a good quality set of pc speakers.
The iPad is a wonderful "adjunct" to a computer.
Seems way overpriced if it is just that.
You don't watch a movie on your phone (unless you have no other choice), do you?
My G2 (desire Z) actually subtends a larger angle to my eyes than the classic dropdown CRT displays that ruled the long haul airline scene for many years. And has better color than any flat screen display I have yet seen in an airplane.
Tablets in general are rather pointless devices.
Unless you plug in a normal keyboard and install normal software as I do with my Xoom. Then the tablet format makes a nice travel computer. Smaller, lighter and longer battery life than any noteboook/netbook I have used, by far. Even with the bluetooth keyboard.
Of course, this strategy requires access to lots of *standard* computer applications, which pretty well makes it practical only for Android. And until Libre/Openoffice lands, its not quite fully there. But good enough that I will may no longer bother to bring along a backup netbook "just in case".
Most stupid name for a product ever. Of course, Apple fans will never admit it. Most probably angrily deny it. But even the most rabid fan only needs to wait a couple of months for the stupidity of this marketing strategy to really sink in. Steve Jobs, for all his flaws, never would have stepped in it this way. It is Apple execs trying to fill Steve Jobs' oversized shoes by coming up with something "cool". Like not having a product name. Wow. Impending customer confusion. Must be cool.
Why do you think interfacing one language with another is hard?
Having a great deal of experience with it - it may be easy, it may be hard. Usually harder than you expect. But it is always a waste of time, if the only reason you are forced to do it is a language implementation deficiency. Which seems to be almost glorified by Python fans, but that is just stupid.
That argument defeats itself. If developer time is expensive, then it should not be wasted interfacing one language to another to overcome needless implementation deficiencies.