x-box 360 cost me $299 same as my PS3. i can also use each one to watch media on my tv without the hassle of doing it on the PC which is usually in the opposite side of the house or room.
Both 360 and PS3 have way too much fan noise to be decent media centers. Connectivity is also limited, especially for the 360, and a lot of the media software just plain sucks and you have no option to do anything about that.
the games are usually the same which means that the gameplay experience is the same.
Nonsense. A-list title ports to consoles are always dumbed down in one way or another, especially for the 360 which has to run off dvd and therefore has to have low res textures, and sometimes also has content removed. Geometry is normally simplified for the console versions and detail settings are necessarily way more conservative. Access to mods is essentially zero. Game world editors are often omitted from console ports. The control systems are completely different and usually much less effective on the console, for anything other than a beat em up. It is well known that keyboard + mouse users always slaughter gamepad users in shooters, other things being as equal as possible, which they can never quite be because consoles simply do not have the graphics or CPU power.
But the worst of all worlds would be if nothing but PC gaming on Microsoft platforms remains standing. Fortunately that is a problem that we can solve and are solving, while having a lot of fun doing it.
It is my belief that this generation is the last hoorah for the console world. Economies of scale in computer graphics hardware dictate that the life of a console generation must be kept unrealistically short in order to avoid the kind of obsolescence we see now, while the cost of developing exclusive content is going through the roof. Yes, there will be a PS4 and an Xbox 444, but whether they will ever make a profit, or whether such blighted spawn of the devil are ultimately destined to kill their hosts, is an open question.
My personal intention is to do as much as possible to undermine the next console generation from both Microsoft and Sony, who have proved themselves beyond any shadow of a doubt to be the Tweedledee and Tweedledum of evil proprietary content platform abuse.
And if you think I'm just blowing smoke, have another think.
never had a memory issue with my ios device. I had though on some other with removable memory.
Am I supposed to believe an indoctrinated cultist who doesn't bother substantiating their random blather? Issue with removable memory indeed. Did you insert the correct end? Were you trying to insert it into an IOS device? Because you might have issues with that, like no slot for example.
Amazing thing is I find it useful without those things.
Good. Now just imagine how much more useful it would be with those things.
* Midi interface without a dongle
* Infinite storage for a device that fits easily in the flap of a photographer's backpack and has a slot for the most common storage format used in digital cameras
* Can use normal USB peripherals when on the road for example without dongles or cable tangle or gratuitous wastage of desk space.
* etc etc
You sound like pretty much just a media consumer. That's not me, I actually use my computer equipment for real work, it's not just about having the latest marginally functional totally locked down shiny toy.
To be fair, Red Hat has been known not to honor the spirit of the GPL in some cases. But in an asshattery contest, Oracle is the clear and uncontested champion.
So let's get this straight, I tell you iPad doesn't work for me because it doesn't have a flash memory slot. And you tell me... wait, I'm not sure, what exactly? You tell me something not actually related to what I said. Well, tell me as often as you want, it won't make the iPad magically have that missing slot that is so important to me. And no, I do will not accept a dongle hanging off a proprietary connector. Does not work for me. Apple engineers ought to hang their collective heads in shame.
I never had the pleasure of using it. However, making things easier in Linux isn't "dumbing down" the operating system. It's simply making things more accessible. Done properly, the fancy GUI stuff just snaps together with the existing CLI and config file stuff and then you get to choose the most appropriate way to manage and configure your system. That's a win for absolutely everyone.
Well, the thing about Linuxconf that made it so useful to me was not just that it could administrate a Linux system in a central, fairly easy way, but it could show you in text form every configuration change it made, to exactly which files. That made it an invaluable tool for learning system administration, and today with the pace of change picking up all the time, we could use such a thing even more. How nice it would be if the back end to our nice shiny system settings dialog boxes would give a log of very change it makes, just as Linuxconf did so effectively.
That is true but that's people who are using products well past two or three years the batteries last
Well I always use my gadgets for more than 3 years, so that is enough reason by itself to reject this obsolescent thing. Sorry, Apple can keep its toy and I will get a real computer from Motorola this time round.
So swap it for the other card, just like you would in the Xoom. What's the problem here?
Maybe the problem is that you can't because the iPad doesn't have a microsd slot or anything like that?
It's clear you're just looking for ways to hate the iPad
Not really, the iPad provides plenty of reasons to hate it without me having to look very deeply at all. Even though you are a full blooded iCultist, try to understand this: iPad is grossly deficient for me, you know why? Because it is locked down top to bottom with significant functionality that I absolutely require missing or provided in a form that is clumsy beyond belief. But don't just listen to me (and please don't reply unless you really want a much deeper examination of iPad deficiencies) check out the buzz. Looks like Apple did something deeply stupid by omitting basic functionality that people expect. That worked OK when there was no meaningful competition, this time it's just one big stupid cock up that is going to be very expensive for Apple shareholders.
Hard to image how Apple could have been so dumb about that.
The 32 gig Xoom is $800. The 32gig+ 3g iPad 2 is $729. Yeah, they're real dumb.
Now I want to swap that 32 gig flash card for a fresh one so I can view a different set of photos. Oh, I can't. (Cue iPad gets thrown under the wheels of a bus.)
In all of the iOS devices I have ever had, I have not once had to replace a battery.
You must be very special then because an entire industry has grown up around replacing out of warranty batteries in Apple products. I do not suppose that industry survives on thin air.
Assuming you have applecare, any battery that dies in under two years is replaced under warranty. Which is to say, the entire ipad is replaced. Not bad for $99.
So the price of the iPad is actually higher than it appears? Because with a replaceable battery you wouldn't need to pay that protection money.
Programmers and designers generally over-estimate what you can get out of a piece of hardware, and it runs slower than it should.
They underestimate the efficiency with which a few layers of highly abstract bloatware interacting in powerful ways can bring a processor no matter how powerful to its knees.
Did Apple say they were adding a standard USB port? Or a flash card port? If it did I might consider it just to use with my photography. It's nice to be able remove the card and go through the photos zapping the ones I don't want while I'm out there. It's tedious to do that on the camera's LCD.
No, but you can buy a $30 doodad for the iPad...
I don't want a doodad to get in the way, get bent or get lost, I want it to be part of the device as it should have been and as it is on the Xoom. I guess 99.99% of photographers will think exactly the same thing. Hard to image how Apple could have been so dumb about that.
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You convinced me: neither the e71 nor the iphone is worth getting.
x-box 360 cost me $299 same as my PS3. i can also use each one to watch media on my tv without the hassle of doing it on the PC which is usually in the opposite side of the house or room.
Both 360 and PS3 have way too much fan noise to be decent media centers. Connectivity is also limited, especially for the 360, and a lot of the media software just plain sucks and you have no option to do anything about that.
the games are usually the same which means that the gameplay experience is the same.
Nonsense. A-list title ports to consoles are always dumbed down in one way or another, especially for the 360 which has to run off dvd and therefore has to have low res textures, and sometimes also has content removed. Geometry is normally simplified for the console versions and detail settings are necessarily way more conservative. Access to mods is essentially zero. Game world editors are often omitted from console ports. The control systems are completely different and usually much less effective on the console, for anything other than a beat em up. It is well known that keyboard + mouse users always slaughter gamepad users in shooters, other things being as equal as possible, which they can never quite be because consoles simply do not have the graphics or CPU power.
But the worst of all worlds would be if nothing but PC gaming on Microsoft platforms remains standing. Fortunately that is a problem that we can solve and are solving, while having a lot of fun doing it.
It is my belief that this generation is the last hoorah for the console world. Economies of scale in computer graphics hardware dictate that the life of a console generation must be kept unrealistically short in order to avoid the kind of obsolescence we see now, while the cost of developing exclusive content is going through the roof. Yes, there will be a PS4 and an Xbox 444, but whether they will ever make a profit, or whether such blighted spawn of the devil are ultimately destined to kill their hosts, is an open question.
I heard that iphone antennas have signal strength issues.
My personal intention is to do as much as possible to undermine the next console generation from both Microsoft and Sony, who have proved themselves beyond any shadow of a doubt to be the Tweedledee and Tweedledum of evil proprietary content platform abuse.
And if you think I'm just blowing smoke, have another think.
never had a memory issue with my ios device. I had though on some other with removable memory.
Am I supposed to believe an indoctrinated cultist who doesn't bother substantiating their random blather? Issue with removable memory indeed. Did you insert the correct end? Were you trying to insert it into an IOS device? Because you might have issues with that, like no slot for example.
Amazing thing is I find it useful without those things.
Good. Now just imagine how much more useful it would be with those things.
* Midi interface without a dongle
* Infinite storage for a device that fits easily in the flap of a photographer's backpack and has a slot for the most common storage format used in digital cameras
* Can use normal USB peripherals when on the road for example without dongles or cable tangle or gratuitous wastage of desk space.
* etc etc
You sound like pretty much just a media consumer. That's not me, I actually use my computer equipment for real work, it's not just about having the latest marginally functional totally locked down shiny toy.
To be fair, Red Hat has been known not to honor the spirit of the GPL in some cases. But in an asshattery contest, Oracle is the clear and uncontested champion.
Only an Apple cultist would claim that IPad 2 is the equal of Motorola Xoom.
Get an ipad if you need:
- Low res screen
- No usb without buying extra stupid dongle
- No flash slot
- Awful cameras
- Locked down applications
-Sturdier.
-Cheaper.
-Smaller / thinner.
-Lighter.
... less useful
I've been using a bluetooth keyboard with my iPad since last spring, when the iPad took the place of my laptop.
Wow, cool. You'd be even better off with an Android pad which is a lot more like a computer. Think of the possibilities.
So why'd you use the word 'swap' then?
What is so special about that word?
So let's get this straight, I tell you iPad doesn't work for me because it doesn't have a flash memory slot. And you tell me... wait, I'm not sure, what exactly? You tell me something not actually related to what I said. Well, tell me as often as you want, it won't make the iPad magically have that missing slot that is so important to me. And no, I do will not accept a dongle hanging off a proprietary connector. Does not work for me. Apple engineers ought to hang their collective heads in shame.
I never had the pleasure of using it. However, making things easier in Linux isn't "dumbing down" the operating system. It's simply making things more accessible. Done properly, the fancy GUI stuff just snaps together with the existing CLI and config file stuff and then you get to choose the most appropriate way to manage and configure your system. That's a win for absolutely everyone.
Well, the thing about Linuxconf that made it so useful to me was not just that it could administrate a Linux system in a central, fairly easy way, but it could show you in text form every configuration change it made, to exactly which files. That made it an invaluable tool for learning system administration, and today with the pace of change picking up all the time, we could use such a thing even more. How nice it would be if the back end to our nice shiny system settings dialog boxes would give a log of very change it makes, just as Linuxconf did so effectively.
Why is it that talking to an iGroupie feels so much like talking to an autoanswering system?
That is true but that's people who are using products well past two or three years the batteries last
Well I always use my gadgets for more than 3 years, so that is enough reason by itself to reject this obsolescent thing. Sorry, Apple can keep its toy and I will get a real computer from Motorola this time round.
So swap it for the other card, just like you would in the Xoom. What's the problem here?
Maybe the problem is that you can't because the iPad doesn't have a microsd slot or anything like that?
It's clear you're just looking for ways to hate the iPad
Not really, the iPad provides plenty of reasons to hate it without me having to look very deeply at all. Even though you are a full blooded iCultist, try to understand this: iPad is grossly deficient for me, you know why? Because it is locked down top to bottom with significant functionality that I absolutely require missing or provided in a form that is clumsy beyond belief. But don't just listen to me (and please don't reply unless you really want a much deeper examination of iPad deficiencies) check out the buzz. Looks like Apple did something deeply stupid by omitting basic functionality that people expect. That worked OK when there was no meaningful competition, this time it's just one big stupid cock up that is going to be very expensive for Apple shareholders.
Umm.. why can't you just plug in the other card and start viewing? Elaborate?
Because the iPad doesn't have a microsd slot, did you really not know that?
So... having to connect a cable to a USB device is a deal breaker for you?
Yes, for the reasons I clearly stated. And I will add one more for emphasis: proprietary docking connector. Just say no to proprietary connectors.
Hard to image how Apple could have been so dumb about that.
The 32 gig Xoom is $800. The 32gig+ 3g iPad 2 is $729. Yeah, they're real dumb.
Now I want to swap that 32 gig flash card for a fresh one so I can view a different set of photos. Oh, I can't. (Cue iPad gets thrown under the wheels of a bus.)
You can open it. There are many kits to do so.
Just asking, do you actually work for Apple?
In all of the iOS devices I have ever had, I have not once had to replace a battery.
You must be very special then because an entire industry has grown up around replacing out of warranty batteries in Apple products. I do not suppose that industry survives on thin air.
Assuming you have applecare, any battery that dies in under two years is replaced under warranty. Which is to say, the entire ipad is replaced. Not bad for $99.
So the price of the iPad is actually higher than it appears? Because with a replaceable battery you wouldn't need to pay that protection money.
Programmers and designers generally over-estimate what you can get out of a piece of hardware, and it runs slower than it should.
They underestimate the efficiency with which a few layers of highly abstract bloatware interacting in powerful ways can bring a processor no matter how powerful to its knees.
Did Apple say they were adding a standard USB port? Or a flash card port? If it did I might consider it just to use with my photography. It's nice to be able remove the card and go through the photos zapping the ones I don't want while I'm out there. It's tedious to do that on the camera's LCD.
No, but you can buy a $30 doodad for the iPad...
I don't want a doodad to get in the way, get bent or get lost, I want it to be part of the device as it should have been and as it is on the Xoom. I guess 99.99% of photographers will think exactly the same thing. Hard to image how Apple could have been so dumb about that.