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IPad 2 33% Thinner, 2x Faster, iOS 4.3
Steve Jobs was on hand today deliver a speech at Apple's iPad 2 event. The
new iPad will feature dual-core processors, 2x faster CPU, and 9X faster
graphics, front and rear cameras. And it's 33% thinner. Prices range from $499 to $829 depending on if
you want 3G and 64 gigs, and it ships March 11. iOS 4.3 will ship at the same time.
So do I download this iOS 4.3 when it comes out or is it for iPad 2 only?
It looks neat, but they didn't quite sell me on upgrading from my iPad 1. I really wanted that retina display.
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Looks like mostly a hardware bump and some minor functionality improvements. But will lot of apps emerge that will take advantage of the big increase in speed(at the cost of alienating the 15 million existing iPad 1 owners)?
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I mean, unless you need to use it to shimmy a door handle because you don't want to ruin your credit card...
Someone had to do it.
So, yet again not bleeding edge...
At the bottom of the page of the iOS webpage, http://www.apple.com/ios/ It shows that it's available for the iPhone 4 GSM Model, but no mention of the CDMA versions.
That is a big lesson to other companies' "summer of X", "definitively this year", "by year's end"....
Announce the hardware and shipping date! Stop the vaporware!
64 gigs
What the fuck is a gig? Does it consume 64 gigawatts of energy?
Let the howling of thousands begin... How DARE Apple bring out a new product when they've already bought one!
(Disclaimer: I bought one too.)
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The iPad is still assembled by cheap Chinese labor who sometimes get suicidal and jump off the Foxconn factory roof so they installed nets. But hey, it's 33% thinner!!!!!
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It's a thinner, faster, more expensive iPhone - sans the phone?
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Will the $829 model be 65% hipper than the $499 model? I *really* want to impress the other guys in the drum circle.
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As an iPad owner the main upgrade incentive would be a higher resolution screen. I see there's no mention of this spec?
So can we take it the iPad 2 will be the same as the original iPad?
Do we hv to wait for iPad 3 then? Or never ever?
Drum circle? More like iSheep jerking circle.
The claims are 9x, but I wonder what the actual performance increase will be.
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I'm not entirely convinced this is aimed at upgraders, apart from bleeding edge users but seems to be more for drawing in the second round of buyers. Those that wanted the camera feature, those that have seen what competitors have produced and are now making their purchase decision. There seems to be a minor price reduction on the existing IP1 too, £329 for the 16Gig is showing at time of writing on the UK store, though the IP2 is not listed there yet. No doubt there's so much stock of the IP1 that a price drop will cause more fence sitters to buy in at the older model if they decide they don't want the newest.
It's a nice tactic and these guys really are the pro marketeers. They could sell water to fish.
This follows (loosely) Intel's tick - tock model and doesn't overwhelm the consumer too much allowing production methods to be refined to lower cost for the next tick product whilst still staying in a good market position with the tock item.
Things normal people wanted and didn't get: USB port, wireless syncing, lower price, 7-inch version
Things normal people wanted and did get: faster, more powerful, same battery life, white body, two cameras, FaceTime
Things geeks wanted and didn't get: oh, hell, I'll be here all day. The geeks can go buy a Xoom to hack instead.
No flash. Less features than a XOOM. Lame.
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And shiny! And it'll change the world, again... again.
The sad part is I bought the iPad 1.0 fully knowing they'd change the world with 2.0 by adding a camera. On the plus side it's totally replaced my EEE for any emergency IT functions thanks to LogMeIn and a very nice SSH app.
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I really dig my iPad, and have no reason to get this new one.
Except..Apple is going to make me download the new OS, making my iPad 1 slow to a crawl. Just like they did to my iPhone 3G.
Yes I know I could never update. But, that doesn't seem like a reasonable thing to ask your customers to do.
No 4G. Less capacity than my thumb drive. Lame.
...because I want to use it to shave.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
A big complaint about the first iPad was that it was uncomfortable to use as an eBook reader for long periods of time, the weight reduction and thinning while removing sharp edges out should help against that problem.
I think the parent poster was being sarcastic, cos, you know, rich arty types who buy Apple stuff like to live in tents and howl at moon, and participate in, errr, drumming circles, which sound terrible because they only gather to practice at weekends...
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And they are based on turning off the screen only.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The device is under 9mm thick. Making the battery replacable means you have to add two more layers of thickness around the battery module itself, another layer inside the battery bay, a little space for fit tolerance, all adding up to non-trivial increase in overall thickness just so a small percentage of users can actually replace the battery (most who say "I want a removable battery" won't actually do it). Never mind the extra space/weight needed for the connector, interface circuitry, and other stuff. In addition, the replacement battery would have to be almost as wide as the iPad, only ~3mm thick, and somehow strong enough to not bend & break. Solving all that just isn't worth the problem being solved.
The 10+ hour run time is real. Are you REALLY not going to have a chance to recharge, using a 2 cu in charger, during that time?
In a year of heavy use, I've drained my iPad battery at most a half-dozen times, maybe twice when having a charger nearby wasn't a viable solution.
Can we get a "-1 Wrong" moderation option?
Original iPad is 1 GHz A4 processor, new iPad is 1 GHz A5 processor. I wouldn't worry about that, it's not like the original is that slow or that many apps strain it.
Isn't the new iPad also dual core? Games can make use of that.
Same here. Funny how they say they got 9x faster graphics and 2x faster CPU, but didn't bother implementing retina display, which, at it's worst-case point, would take a 4x higher toll on the device (assuming quadrupling total pixel count). Which BTW would still make each individual pixel significantly larger than they already have on the iPhone 4 (iPhone 4 quadrupled pixels over iPhone 3S, and iPhone 3S had a higher pixel density than iPad 1 to begin with).
I need a tablet to read stuff. I want to do it in a way that would match the visual experience of reading a book. Kindle is good enough (but B&W plus doesn't do all the other stuff I want to use the tab for), iPhone 4 is good enough but the screen size is way too small. iPad is large enough but the pixel size sucks and it's a totally ruined experience if you actualy want to read something as you'd read in a book.
I'd buy the first tab that lets me read book-quality text, Apple, Android, or whatever. Until then, I'm not buying anything, and I don't care if they wireless ZXN, 42G connectivity, and 9000 cameras on it.
Don't you sleep?
Can we get a "-1 Wrong" moderation option?
Pffft! Jackhole! Scornful of union supporters and anti-Apple. Wow. Are you always angry too? Really. Really. Angry.
In all of the iOS devices I have ever had, I have not once had to replace a battery. And even if you need to Apple can do that for you, which is something like once every three years at worst, probably longer (since as I said I have not had to replace a battery in a device yet).
In any device if I wanted longer use time (for instance on an international flight) I always found an external power pack preferable, as they can be smaller than a second battery for a real device - I mean think of how an iPad extra battery would have to be shaped, all by itself it would be pretty bulky and large, where an external battery can opt to be much thicker but also far less higher and wider to provide more battery life in a more compact package.
Apple has made the right choice by making the devices as small as possible, and moving the occasional need to longer use into an external form that can be customized into many shapes and sizes and capacities instead of just one monolithic replacement battery.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
As a person casually interested in tablet computers, I never looked with too much interest at CPU speed. Screen size, application availability, OS and user interface usability and connection ports (USB is a must) are my most relevant factors in the choice. And price. I imagine, however, that even if I were an Apple enthusiast, CPU speed for a tablet would be less important than screen size and user interface. The iPad 2 is definitely an improved model, but no Apple enthusiast will be swept off his/her feet, though some will feel the urge to upgrade, no doubt. The rest of us won't really care about the iPad 2. In fact, at this point a much cheaper Android-based tablet computer may start to look more interesting than before ("Hey, even Apple didn't add much to their own iPad, why not get this $SEMI_ANONYMOUS_BRAND tablet instead?").
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Unless I missed something, it still only comes with an embedded hard drive, forcing you to shell out $$ for a larger hard drive. Even my NookColor has an SD slot (and is also rootable on Android). I feel pretty much about this as I did the first one--looks cool, but considering it costs approx. the same as a laptop (except without Flash), it's an expensive toy.
If you've never been modded as "flamebait" or "troll," you've never tried to argue a minority viewpoint here!
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Why'd you run from discussing that troll? You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?) You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it... and you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk
The iPad is still assembled by cheap Chinese labor who sometimes get suicidal and jump off the Foxconn factory roof so they installed nets.
Well if that bothers you I imagine you aren't buying electronics from any other hardware maker that hides the numbers Apple publishes and produces gear at factories that treat the workers even worse. How do you think a $300 Android tablet gets to be that cheap anyway...
Back to your cave now.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The new audio output which supports 5.1 dolby and 1080p is huge. The HD output is especially nice for teachers since it supports any app, not just specific Apple sanctioned ones like the first iPad (at 480p).
Yeah, I'm probably all like...a greedy capitalist type too...unlike Steve Jobs.
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The difference between a toy and a tool is how you use it.
Gone!
If you have an iPad today, this is not really a must-have, but if you are just thinking about a tablet purchase now the iPad looks really compelling next to any other device out now or soon to be arriving.
The September one should be the one that would inspire an upgrade, with an improved display to add atop this refresh and possible something else (though in such a short time frame it's hard to imagine what else would be added).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I've got a typical 100 sheet writing pad. With pen, it weighs just over 1.1 lb.
Add a clipboard and you are at 1.6 lbs, heavier than the original iPad.
Actually 4.3 is not at all a drag on an iPad. They did eventually kind of fix the 3G performance issues with iOS 4.1, though it still was a little slower... but the older iPad handles the iOS4 stuff just fine, and 4.3 is not that much of a change for it.
If you have one now you could probably wait for the next version to upgrade and still be very happy, as app designers will have to be supporting the old one for quite a while yet. The only exception might be for gaming, if game designers start to really take advantage of the greater graphics performance. Even that may take long enough though you could still wait for the next version.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Looks like Jobs is 33% thinner, too. Poor guy.
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Why'd you run from discussing that troll? You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it... and you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk
Actually Facetime is an open spec, anyone can implement a device that supports it...
Now how you find them from an iOS to non-IOS device, that part I'm not sure how easy it is to implement.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It's nice, I may have considered buying one -- except, as far as I can see there is no GPS. What is that about?
Lots of apps existing today will make use of the dual cores, because any app that has a lot of network access (like say sports apps pulling down many data feeds) are already using background threads to do data fetching and parsing.
With dual cores some of that work (and it turns out it's not insignificant) can truly go in a background core while the UI is kept even more responsive.
Even for apps that aren't doing that if you look at the trace of any application there are several background threads, any of which can make use of the dual cores in the same way - or just even background apps that are processing audio or system apps like Mail that may be processing mail in the background.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Figures this happens not three days after the administration at my school were issued brand new iPads.
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All the "used" ipads on ebay and craigs list are still within 20% of MSRP...
Your Used ipad 1 should go for at LEAST $200.00 less than what you bought it for.
APPLE even discounted new ipad 1's by $100.00 as well.. I can buy a NEW Ipad 1 for $399.00 so your used one is worth $299...
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But android! Android, android, android! But wait... ANDROID!
The extra camera is nice and the added processing power is welcome, but still no flash or usb. I'll pass on it.
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They could have made the cover with solar panels in it and it would have unlimited standby time with just room lighting.
The problem with solar covers is that they need to plug into the main connector somehow. It really needs Apple to make this possible... just putting two little contacts on the case someplace and including a tiny bit of electronics to charge efficiently from solar would make the ipad complete.
Wow Pete, I've really bothered you haven't I? Your replying to my every post over the past three days proves that I've beaten you.
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I was looking at buying a Samsung tablet and I have to say this iPad changes the game AGAIN. I just dont see how any android tablet can compare to the quality, speed and brilliance of the iPad 2!
I doubt that you understand the target market at all.
You (and I'm not just picking on you, but also the proverbial you) don't seem to grasp the fact that for a lot of people the products that Apple makes are a genuine improvement over the rest of the industry. So think what you will of Apple and the 'fanbois'. But also take some time to think why the rest puts out crummy crap that can't compare at all.
Yes, there are a lot of mp3 players, but the iPod made it simple and easy. Not to mention the *way* better looks (yes, Virginia, that is important). Similar, there are other tablets. They are irrelevant as they are crap (yes, *crap*) to use. Don't believe me? Try one. It's crap, really.
Despite all this, I *still* can't use it to realign the starboard plasma couplings. Dammit!
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Why'd you run from discussing that troll? You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it... and you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk
Try building a house using a teddybear sometime.
Why would anyone engrave "Elbereth"?
Or a 40 inch LCD. Or go on a vacation. Or get some new clothes. Or.... save. Yeah... so many better things to do with that money.
Welcome to Slashdot, where Apple achieves greater hate than Bill Gates. Nothing garners more fear in the numbskulls here than Steve Jobs.
Please explain how an SD card slot is anything more that useless to me.
My DSLR (Nikon D3x) uses CF Cards
Personally, I don't give a toss about the slots. IMHO they are just more places to gather dust.
The iPad camera connection kit works fine enough as does the Camera Control App.
I use it all the time in the studio.
I'll wait for the Ipad3 though.
I'd rather be riding my '63 Triumph T120.
Apple is stating on their web site:
"A properly maintained iPad battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 1000 full charge and discharge cycles. You may choose to replace your battery when it no longer holds sufficient charge to meet your needs." Here's the link: http://www.apple.com/batteries/ipad.html.
I dunno, but 80% after at least 3 years seems pretty damn good to me.
Need I say more? (Oh lighten up already...)
Care to link to a similarly featured and cheaper alternative?
Grossly overpriced? It's half the price some people expected on initial launch, and good value compared to the competition. Some of us get what's so good about a tablet, and the price isn't a problem.
Trend-setting? Why, yes. Look at the number of copy-cat products that are springing up, trying desperately to get a slice of the market.
Which equivalent products are better value, and what do YOU consider trend-setting?
HP's WebOS tablet actually has better hardware and will have quite a few features for syncing and sharing a connection with their smart phones. In this case, HP is setting a trend as so far the iPad has no native syncing support quite like the HP tablet (based on palm tech).
That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
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Why'd you run from discussing that troll?
You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> Yes - You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it... and you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk
the suicide rate of the surrounding area was significantly higher.
But why do you feel the need to preface Chinese labor with cheap? Their standard of living and cost of living is far different than ours. Now if someone were trying to put these together here for similar rates I can see cheap applied quite well, using min wage workers would make the term more appropriate.
Compensation at their plant is supposedly higher than other jobs available in the same urban area, as much as 50% in many cases. So what defines cheap? The term obviously does not apply locally. It applies from our stand point because $15 to $20 a day is madness for those of us who can buy these devices. Yet, when applied locally how do they fare?
I am all for saying their low cost labor but cheap is an unfair term to apply.
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The big downside of the iPad2 is that it is 1024x768. or the same 4:3 aspect ratio as a CRT. So watching ANY High Definition movie with its 16:9 ratio will result in big fat black bars on the screen top and bottom. Worse there just aren't enough pixels for the typical 1080 we are used to....
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/01/27/watching-movies-on-an-ipad-what-you-see-is-what-you-get/
All Motorola has to do is point this out in a commercial over and over.... with the big black lines and it is doom for the iPad 2. The clear fact is that most people want to be able to take their iPad on an airplane or anywhere else apart from their TV and watch an HD movie. That is the big motivator, email, word, that is old news...
Forget Retina display. The focus should of been to just get to 1080 like the XOOM.
"Yeah Steve it is also about the hardware, not just the apps, because the apps won't look right!!"
246 posts and nobody has discussed the magnetic covering? That seems to be the biggest design change. I'm can't decide if it's really cool, or really silly....
I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
Love the Slashdot reaction, especially the comments about what 'normal people' think. The iPad has a fucking awesome, objectively great battery life. How does Slashdot react? "It's not user replaceable!". Whatever. I've had mine for nearly a year now and it still gets over 10 hours. Maybe in another 2-3 years it'll degrade but, honestly, like I give a care.
The iPad is incredibly cheap. This thing was widely expected to start at $1000+ last year and it started at half that. The iPad 2 is coming in at the same price points and is way cheaper than the competition. The Xoom 32GB goes for £499 in the UK. The iPad 2 32GB? £399. A fucking c-note of difference, and a sterling c-note at that. So what's the Slashdot reaction? "Too expensive!" and "lower the price!".
iOS devices have a track record of holding up well against new cycles of iOS for at least a couple of years. As someone said above, the original 2007 iPhone 4 held up well until iOS 4 in 2010, and is still faster on its pared-back iOS 4 than some other non-Apple smartphones I've seen. Compare that with Android phones released months ago that already have no prospect of ever even seeing any OS updates, let alone being able to handle them with grace. What's the Slashdot reaction, though? "So I suppose they're going to brick my iPad now to force me to upgrade!". Bull. Shit. It's amazing how, on Slashdot, completely make-believe, possibly-maybe-in-the-future downsides for iOS seem to outrank actual, major-fuck-up downsides happening right now for Android.
The iPad has a solid, very nice capacitive resistant IPS display. Let's not forget that some tablets are still coming out with horrible, piece-of-shit resistive screens that can only actually be viewed from one angle beneath a layer of plastic. No, the iPad 2 does not have a retina display (whatever that would mean in the iPad world), but then again the only people who ever speculated that it would have absolutely no fucking clue what is going on inside Apple, just like the rest of us. So, what's the Slashdot reaction? Do they satisfy themselves with what is already a display that is better than most and as good as any out there, but which fails to live up to a standard that only existed in the realm of fantasy? Fuck no they don't! "No retina display! Rip-off!"
"No 4G!". Okay, seriously, get out more. Yes, in a few years, greater cellular data speeds will obviously be needed for services we can't even fully imagine right now. But right now, 6-7mpbs on an iPad 3G should be enough for everyone (ho ho). What is anyone doing today on their iPad in mobile situations anyway? Browsing Flickr? Streaming Netflix? Can't these things be done perfectly well at 3.5G speeds? What about data caps? Besides, are there tablets out there that actually have 4G? Whatever '4G' even means. Do you mean LTE or WiMax? American LTE or Chinese LTE? The one available in some places in the US or in some places in Europe, and none of which is available in any true scale? Man, I can't imagine why Apple hasn't leaped head-first into this technology, which is so obviously ready for primetime!
"No 7-inch screen!". Fuck off. This from the same crowd that roared that the iPad was just a big iPhone. 7-inch screens are a cop-out by bullshit manufacturers who cannot price-match the iPad at 10 inches.
"No Flash!". Yeah okay. You get that one. I'm really missing those wicked banner ads spamming my eyes from all corners. What about iAd, you might cleverly retort? I have 200 apps and maybe 15 that I use daily or very often, and I have never - as in not once, ever - seen an iAd. Anyway it's true that, once in a blue moon, I come across a video that isn't playable via HTML5 video. Somehow I get by. If you're genuinely bothered by the lack of Flash, then I respect that. IMO this is as close to a genuine trade-off as the iPad comes. I have a sneaky feeling, though, that a lot of the uproar surrounding Flash and iOS is actually coming from people who are scrambling for something (anything!) that they can fire at Apple
... or similar removable media slot. Otherwise, I do not want it.
We were all warned a long time ago that MS products sucked, remember the Magic 8 Ball said, "Outlook not so good"
Do they mean Jobs or the new Ipad 2?
(Yeah, I know it's lame, but I couldn't help it)
There are no comparable options because the Apple tablet has the lower end specs of the newer tablets coming out. Even the HP WebOS tablet has a dual snapdragon at 1.2 ghz and has other things like an actual built in compass, inductive charging, syncing to WebOS phones natively, and the touch-to-share.
That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
wanted to get a second one and retire my current one to my wife. But I will wait another half a year to see if the rumours are true that the ipad3 will come before christmas and will have a retina display. I figured a retina display would be bigger than getting front cams now, because I do a lot of reading on the ipad, and getting a bigger resolution can help out in that area a lot.
I suppose people want to get away with buying a 16gb iPad and then put additional storage into it later via SD card for pictures/music/etc. so they can save money in the short term (maybe long term too, don't remember the last time I bought a SD card so I am not sure of their price and I don't feel like looking it up).
That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
Apple has sold more iPads in one year (15 million) than all modern tablet PCs (i.e., "Windows XP Tablet PC Edition" and newer) since 2001 combined.
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USB port:
There is a USB port, it's the 30 pin connector. Yes it's not a standard connector but otherwise works just like a USB port. Actually it works like a USB port on steroids because it also allows you to pump audio and video thru various cables. A standard USB port would actually be a step down.
Wireless syncing:
What nongeeky average joe is absolutely screaming for wireless sync? Can you give me a list of names please? At the same time, you are getting over the air file sharing, it's in iOS 4.3. Now someone is going to be complaining about over the air updating, but considering that carriers can block updates on Android, and considering the recent window 7 phone debacle which bricked phones on Microsoft's very first attempt to release an over the air update, I'm glad I have control over updates via my Mac and that the phones require a very reliable and stable cable.
Lower price:
Considering that the low end Xoom is more expensive than 5 of the 6 models of iPad, I would challenge you find a way to make it cheaper. It might have been nice to see the iPad 1 continue to sell for perhaps $299 as a low end alternative, like the 3G and 3GS did when they were supplanted, but you aren't getting a cheaper iPad 2 until the other makers start offering real price competition. Seems to be flying off the shelves at $500. If you don't like the price, don't buy it. Sorry it's not for everyone.
7 Inch version:
Really? Because the 7 inch competitors tablets are flying off the shelf right? Right?
You frequent Slashdot, do you even know any normal people? :) I kid, but seriously I don't know any "normal people" who are screaming for those features.
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I'm just surprised it comes in leather.
All else being equal, it's kind of neat that stuff can be made so small. But not all else remains equal.
Is everyone really complaining about their portable electronics having too long of a battery life (both in terms of times between charges, and lifetime of the product)? I'm used to a phone going 2 weeks between charges, but I don't know if my next phone is going to be as good as my 5-year-old one. And my work-issued iPod can't even hold a charge for a whole day, even if I don't use it (though to be fair, it is ancient -- a whole year old!).
More meat on the gadgets, please. It may be prejudice, but thin has become a nearly synonym for shoddiness.
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The HTC Evo!
No mention of this spec, even on the specs page? http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
Oh wow, the specs are on the specs page. It's the same resolution as the original iPad: 1024-by-768-pixel resolution at 132 pixels per inch (ppi)
I don't really care for it. I suspect there will be a lot of cases designed to replace it by attaching in its place.
That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
Add a clip to the magnetic cover and you get an old Blackberry holster....
It is cool. It's small touches like these that make apple products stand out from the competition. Very minor but will make a difference in usability considering I reach and pop open the cover on my iPad a dozen times a day and won't need to hit the power button anymore.
I did that google and it seems that the apk was technically correct that:
1.) The Thor Schrock person was listing an app of his as a malware, incorrectly, even though it violated none of CA's 21 point test for malware
2.) That CA had to reduce the threat level of his single app to zero.
3.) I found it rather funny that CA listed apk's application under his middle name, which you call him also, as does Thor Schrock. I would go as far as to guess that you are this fool Schrock because of it in fact.
4.) CA was also found to be disreputable and cauhgt in an accounting scandal as well and they are far from a reputable source (and they were disgraced for it and they are practically dead now because of it http://www.corporatenarc.com/cascandal.php ).
5.) APK also appeared to be correct in noting that false positives occur for many shareware or freeware authors, and that it has happened to the likes of Nir Sofer of Nirsoft and Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft as well before.
6.) APK was also correct in noting that applications like Spybot Search and Destroy alter a HOSTS file, which is a violation of CA's criteria in their 21 point list of malware criteria for an application to be classified as a malware, and that PING itself can or could issue a "ping of death" also, and yet neither of thos 2 applications as examples apk used are classified as a malware.
Your sources for your ad hominem attack attempt here are not very useful if you don't think we will read your sources.
Additionally, I saw a lot of good things about this apk guy as well,in that search url you supplied. That is most unlike yourself (because you're a no good troll).
However you running away from saying why you think apk and his method of hosts files management is bad only shows you trolled him and cannot backup your own trolling words http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632
it's really cool, just watch the video
http://www.apple.com/ipad/features/#video-incoming-swap-video
*drumroll* ... and so is Steve Jobs!
And even if it is a toy, are toys somehow universally accepted as being worse than tools? My toys cost much more than my tools, in general.
If not, I'll choose a more capable device instead.
Well between greedy capitalist and total asshole I think you just might be Mr. Jobs.
Many photographers would like to use an app related to Adobe's Lightroom for immediate importing, tagging, and initial review and screening of photos from a photoshoot. But because of Apple's restrictions on direct writing of files and a few other technical issues, this is not apparently possible at this time, according to Adobe.
Do you have a link for that? Because all of that is possible currently. There is no restriction on "direct writing of files".
You do currently have to use the iPad photo app to read images from the Apple SD reader. But there's a third party SD reader which works, that someone like Adobe could leverage into a full-blown photo management/review application.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
You can buy a third party adaptor That lets you read SD cards on an iPad or iPhone.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Actually Modded Flamebait.
Properly Modded Funny.
There's no one quite as sensitive to sand in their vagina than an Apple Fanboi.
Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce
I know a couple of people who will be disappointed by the lack of GPS.
For the iPad 2? Both models include a digital compass. Look over the tech specs.
That's a flaw they thankfully rectified over the first iPad, where only the 3G iPad had a compass.
Now there's no reason not to use WiFi tethering from your device of choice and buy a cheaper iPad.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
now my "zoom" screen refresh, instead of taking 10 ms, will take 5 ms.
It's not that.
It's that dragging items will stutter less, will not potentially lose track of your finger positio, and app launches will be quicker too.
There are lots of little things that are improved that will be noticeable and make people who had an older iPad think of the new one as "snappy".
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
that's because most people who come here to read these posts are more interested in the innards of the best then its shiny scales. But hey if a pretty cover is going to make the sale for ya... all the power
Original iPad had exactly the same battery specs (including standby time).
There is value in being able to leave something sitting for a week without charging and have it still be mostly charged and instantly ready to use. Having a long standby time means never thinking about turning it off because it's not necessary to have it ready when you need to use it.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
You can get iPads, iPods and iPhones updated at the Apple store.
At the same time, Apple does envision most of these devices as part of a home device network with a Mac or PC (to them, a Mac preferably) at the center. The people who want to use these devices as standalone devices is in the minority. But I'm sure Apple will one day get over the air updates into iOS. There are very real concerns (power, rollbacks, data recovery) and these are all alleviated by simply requiring updates to be tethered. Asking people to come to a store to do the update is actually pretty clever, it works around the problem of what would happen if you lost all your data during an update. Having a backup solves all data loss problems during an update.
"All great wisdom is contained in .signature files"
I'll believe that when I see it...
They have used the same batteries in the phones for a while now, I used one iPhone model for well over two years daily without ever replacing the battery.
The battery life is real, and it's spectacular.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Worst (practical) case scenario for lithium ion batteries is 40% loss in three months.
Well good thing Apple uses lithium polymer then, isn't it?
70% capacity at two years out.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
246 posts and nobody has discussed the magnetic covering? That seems to be the biggest design change. I'm can't decide if it's really cool, or really silly....
Next they will build a keyboard into the cover. Wait, that's just a laptop.
What is there to talk about? It's a magnetic cover. It's not a design change, it's just an extra accessory that attaches itself to the iPad.
There is no "September" iPad. That whole line of rumor was created by accident, by Mr. Gruber speculating idly that Apple might want to sync up iPad's annual release cycle with the iPod, in the fall, coupled with his apparently inside information that this spring wouldn't bring a "Retina Display" to the iPad. (This is reasonable speculation based on the notion that, given current iOS, they would need to make a Retina Display on an even multiple of the current pixel density or force developers to support yet another screen type, implying a minium 2x density, and the available mobile GPU designs couldn't handle that. Lion based iOS might alter that assumption, allowing, say, a 1.5x higher pixel density by this fall.) In any case, they're clearly working to beef up the GPU in the iPad, but it will be a while yet before they can power a Retina Display and GPU in the same energy budget. Don't expect that until next spring, at the earliest.
If you mod me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
So, show me all the lesser-priced but equivalent competitors...
I can wait.
I'm guessing inside the iPad its once again, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 hardware. Specs looks extremely similar.
Please explain how having the best price in the tablet market is premium pricing.
iPad: $500. Archos 101: $370, and it dual-boots Android and "regular" Linux. How exactly does iPad "hav[e] the best price in the tablet market" again?
that's because most people who come here to read these posts are more interested in the innards of the best then its shiny scales. But hey if a pretty cover is going to make the sale for ya... all the power
And those people are the same ones that buy a high powered Android tablet that runs like crap, then come on here just to bash the tablet that makes up 90% of the tablet market sales.
And sadly will never be released... iPad 2 comes out in 9 days. That's really one of the biggest issues other manufacturers have... they announce something, everyone is excited, then people wait 6+ months to buy it... but by that time... 3 more competitors have announced new things, and they're shipping it in 3-4 months afterwards... so everyone sits there and waits... eventually no one buys anything.
As opposed to Apple announcements that usually go something like this: hype -> announcement -> excitement -> pre-order or purchase -> deliver within a week to a month.
Just off the cuff, the Barnes & Noble NOOKcolor is made in the same FoxConn sweat shop, runs android, and costs roughly half. It's not equivalent if you're comparing it to a full-on tablet with a hard drive and a full blown OS. But when held to such standards neither is the iPad I/II. It's an overgrown phone that's not a phone.
As to your other inquiry, I used the term "trend-setting" in a derogatory sense.
Color me a bigot, but every morning when I see a 3 minute segment on the national news shows covering the newest iFad, I get enraged and change the channel only to find the same thing on all the other networks. Why is this news? Who's wheels does Jobs have to grease to get so much free exposure? Luckily I can count on later that day coming here to /. and finding a fanboi thread wherein I can vent my frustrations. :-)
Ahh, that's better.
You're a mindless brainwashed cool-aid drinking fanboy! Er, fanboi! And you're probably...gay! Haha, as in you like to have sex with dudes! Because, as everyone knows, the iPad is for yuppie morons, and what everyone wants is a Linux-based tablet with a replaceable battery! Seriously! As soon as some company makes one, the sheeple will wake up and Apple will go under, I guarantee you!
The XOOM is thicker, heavier, larger in all dimensions, and has a slightly better resolution and has the same processor (roughly).
But the real thing that kills the XOOM is the base cost. It's rumored to be $800 (or higher), far more than the $499 base iPad which is very practical. Lots of people do not need a huge amount of storage or 3G support.
I agree the XOOM looks like a good tablet, but it really shows that Apple is competing quite well on price in the tablet space.
As for September, as I said this release is for new tablet buyers - If you are are comparing the iPad and XOOM I honestly can't see many people choosing the XOOM, especially when you factor in software (which is the reason why you buy a computer of any kind). But a higher res version in September will make sense for current users to upgrade and at the same time produce a FUD cloud over buying other tablets (though unlike other FUD we are used to this thing will ship).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
According to the Apple site, the big performance win for games isn't the faster CPU, it's the 9x faster graphics processing.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
Like this guy: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple
Reads like an advertisement for apple. Come on, even with all the fanboys there should be some decency here... This is getting tiresome.
steve jobs rulls 4 ever!Adidasi
Sweet a duel core tablet! I can't wait to push this baby to the max checking the weather and my facebook.
And the moment you start to peel it back, the iPad detects this and wakes from sleep.
Haters will just brush off this cover design as extra gloss on a polished turd.
Lovers will think it's the greatest damn thing ever.
Most will think it's interesting, then pretty cool after they start using it regularly.
Motorola is stewing at this subtle, yet novel feature that everyone else will implement in their own way.
No, it doesn't come with an embedded hard drive. Since day 1, it has come with flash memory.
Oh yeh, he will follow you around trolling. Most people know this and just ignore him.
HoHum, just another day at Slashdot.
How often do you open it? How about your television set? Microwave?
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Why'd you run from discussing that troll?
You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> Yes - You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it - PLUS, you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk
Context please. £400 is not expensive for a tablet computer that offers the features of the iPad. If it is, then where are all the less expensive competitors hmm? Oh that's right, there aren't any, because other manufacturers are finding it too fucking difficult to make one for that price.
Okay, I'll bite. Where are your electronics manufactured? It never ceases to amaze me when all the Apple haters start bleating about Apple's contract manufacturers use of cheap labor in China (This just in! Labor cheap in China! Film at 11!), while conveniently neglecting to mention that the bulk of ALL consumer electronic devices are manufactured in the PRC.
So are using a Dell PC? An HP? Acer? A Samsung Galaxy S? A Samsung Galaxy Tab? Do you own a Playstation? Or an Xbox? Well guess what Mr. Anonymous Hypocrite: if the answer to any of these questions is " yes", more than likely they were assembled at the self-same Foxconn slave labor camp where iPhones and iPads are manufactured, or one of the other 11 just like it in mainland China. Dell, HP, and Acer are far larger clients of Foxconn than is Apple. But I guess it's easier to make inflammatory statements about a company's morality because you don't use their products, than it is to take a good hard look at yourself and your own choices.
I'd tell you to get off your high horse, but you're obviously riding a giraffe.
We can only purchase devices without flaws, right?
I once had a girlfriend like that...
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
It's a thinner, faster, more expensive iPhone - sans the phone?
You forgot "lame".
The Nokia 770 wifi tablet had a magnetic cover which unlocked the screen when taken off and vice versa way back in 2005.
I think the answer is that there are no other faster/cheaper/more stable tablets by the definition that 90% of the buying public uses. You use a different definition.
See his sense of humour, or rather complete lack of one showing. I had hoped that when he turns 13 this year he would start acting more adult. Ah well, such is life.
I've got a Nook Color for my daughter, and I like it. It's apples and oranges to compare it to the iPad, though... WiFi only, no camera or microphone, no GPS, need to jailbreak it to run real Android apps. On the plus side, it can be expanded with a 32GB miniSD card, which for some reason the iPad cannot. Sure, it's half the price of an iPad, but you get what you pay for.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
The summary says "Dual-core processors" but that is incorrect. A dual-core processor is one processor with two cores, so you can say "dual cores" or "dual-core processor" but there's really no reason for processor to be plural.
He didn't say any other tablet was better
You need to learn how to read.
Because what he IMPLIED is that Apple is responsible for the suicides. And if you are going to IMPLY that then you better be letting us know why you are using any consumer electronics at all, since clearly he was posting from a computer.
Also in my response I just gave an Android tablet as one possible example, out of the whole entire field of consumer electronics. So who is really being the knee-jerk here? I, who pointed out in the vast space of consumer electronics is produced in China, or you who assumed I was talking only about Android tablets?
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Not going to argue the superiority of Apples supply chain. If theres one thing other manufacturers need to know is that they need to STFU until its time to release it. HP TouchPad with WebOS will be released, just a month or two late. They supposedly pushed the mid-summer release date back to April probably because of the iPad 2. They also are competing reasonably with the price, supposedly at 699 for a 32 gb model with more RAM, better CPU, touchstone induction charging, bluetooth WebOS phone syncing, and touch-to-share. I think its worth it for the extra 100. I doubt they will get the battery life, and it weighs .2 pounds more. HP already had working demo models out on the floor at an announcement that were working fine. I suspect they are manufacturing them as we speak to get it out ASAP to compete with the iPad 2. That being said, Im still probably getting the new iPad mainly because of the number of good apps it already has, WebOS is severely lacking there.
That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
A Slashdot poster calling other people sheep is pretty ironic.
so, let me get this straight. you get dual cameras, i suppose also a microphone, 3g.... but no voice calling? do you at least get sms?
the lack of this feature is an important new feature!
Adding an extra hole to an iOS device.. Blashphemy! And iPad is to be beloved and to hold. Not some skank you want to stick your junk in.
+1, best resurrection of an annoying 10-year old troll... What's the health status of *BSD these days?
With my pre-unibody Macbook Pro, I get 12 hours of battery life. How, you ask? I carry a couple of spare batteries in my laptop bag. Now my flights overseas don't require me to say "oh well, i might as well get wasted" halfway through the flight
Jobs' obsession with form in this case seriously compromises function. He seems to also be quite obsessed with thinness. I really like the new MBPs, but I just can't get over the battery thing.
it depends how you hold it?
I'd waste a "Funny" on you.
When are they going to dump that hideous grid layout?
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Why'd you run from discussing that troll?
You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
I also notice here that your being told off by others has you shitting your pants as well troll. You can say they're me ALL YOU LIKE, but the fact remains the points the person put up in their enumerated list puts your trolling b.s. & ad hominem attacks in their place (the garbage). Facts work like that, vs. trolls like YOU.
APK
P.S.=> Yes - You sure can "dish it out" troll, but you cannot take it - PLUS, you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk
With my pre-unibody Macbook Pro, I get 12 hours of battery life. How, you ask? I carry a couple of spare batteries in my laptop bag. Now my flights overseas don't require me to say "oh well, i might as well get wasted" halfway through the flight
You can get external batteries for the unibody MacBook Pros too. Somehow, however, I doubt intercontinental flights is all that pressing of a matter for most people.
Jobs' obsession with form in this case seriously compromises function. He seems to also be quite obsessed with thinness. I really like the new MBPs, but I just can't get over the battery thing.
An interchangeable battery is not a positive function. It's a negative one. No one wants to change their battery, but they sometimes need to. Apple solved this by making a battery powerful enough to run the computer for longer than most people wish, thereby completely removing the need for an interchangeable battery. This is an improvement.
But, like I said, for those few who do need extra power, there are solutions that serve you well without having to diminish the quality of the computer for the rest of us.
front and rear cameras
So they can watch you no matter where you go...
Of course, they'd leave out the fact that the Mac in question had much better specs than $249 Dell.
Sure, but that's not what is happening here.
So, are you really comparing a $499 iPad with 8GB of storage, 1024x768 screen, and no 3G, with a Xoom that has 32GB of storage, 1280x800 screen, and 3G support?
The smallest iPad has 16 GB. In practice, that has been plenty of storage, even for long trips with video.
But lets say we want to go about equal. Ok, that's $599, still $200 less. Or lets say you want 3G with that (though why you'd spring for that with a smartphone that can provide connectivity is beyond me). That's as you noted $70 less.
That's still a lower price, and you have a tablet with the same specs in terms of processing power, slightly less screen resolution (if you look again the XOOM simply has a slightly longer screen). That's still $70 less, with a far larger application selection. Only you ALSO have the option of paying $300 less if you already have wireless connectivity, and can make do with 16GB of stuff at any one time (remember that most people use tablets in addition to PC's - I have well over 100 GB of content but I just sync what I need for the week).
Have you really looked at the bundled software on an iPad? I mean, maybe Apple has improved this on the iPad 2, but my iPad doesn't even have a clock!
Well, there is a clock in the status bar and on the lock screen... but who cares about bundled software? I care what I can do with it after I get it, not what can be done with it before I get it. For clocks alone - there are in fact many Apps For That. The only exception would be stuff that you can't change, which includes Safari (you can buy other browser apps but they have to use Safari as a rendering engine). Those parts are more than good enough and the equivalent on other platforms are marginally better. I'm seeing nothing in Honeycomb that is compelling over what you can do with iOS, especially with expanded wireless video options built right into the OS.
And also lets remember these are just projected XOOM prices, I have seen projections that were substantially higher. You aren't getting more, you are getting less by almost any metric EXCEPT screen resolution. It's not like the Mac/PC comparison at all.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I'm actually pretty excited about the WebOS tablet and may well get one to develop for (it's the only non-IOS device I am even considering), but I'm not sure it has better hardware.
It's heavier, has a slightly smaller display, and has the same resolution (thankfully they got the aspect ratio correct for a tablet device to be useful).
The processor is a tiny bit faster in clock speed but I'm not sure it's dual core. I'm sure it will be plenty fast for the device.
The battery they say is 10 hours, but we shall see... in my experience not many other companies are as accurate with battery estimations as Apple has been.
The apps thing is a pretty big hurdle for all other tablets though, that does matter. But it's also why I;m thinking of developing some things for the HP tablet, because I really want to see WebOS stick around. Android and iOS will stay regardless of my involvement but a developer can really make a difference in the longevity of WebOS.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Show us you've done more than I have and earlier than I have and more times over as long of a duration (1996-2010), that in 1 even did well enough to be placed as a finalist in the hardest category there is @ MS TechEd 2000-2002, 2 yrs. in a row no less, and has my code in commercially sold and award winning software... ok?
"No, he only has links to his list of accolades from 1997" - by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Wednesday March 02, @04:59PM (#35362370)
Which, again, is more than a trolling coward "ne'er-do-well" like yourself... lol!
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Why'd you run from discussing that troll?
You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> Yes - You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it - PLUS, you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk
I'm sorry for having to explain this to you, but drum circles are not hip. Hippie != hip.
That "script kiddies' script" didn't work fully or properly, on these things in HOSTS files you import:
A.) It failed to account for UPPER case entries (which would mean possible duplicates - a "no,no" in & of itself)
B.) It failed to account for trailing blanks on the ends of lines that occur (trim commands in VB or Delphi work for that)
C.) It failed on trailing # or other symbols that SOME hosts files put into their content (dumb, but it is a fact of life that has to be dealt with)
D.) It wasn't purely written "by hand"/"from scratch", as my Delphi program, was... it was merely using tools that others built for him to merely USE.
(There were more & other areas it failed on as well, but that what I can recall of it on short notice here is all)
My program works in roughly 5 minutes over 937,000 - 1 million entries in a HOSTS file now for doing ALL of the above, sorting the data + removal of duplicated entries also, & I got it there by busting up the datafile (hosts) into 48 separate parts... "she's a runner"!
APK
P.S.=> So your rather dull moronic attempts @ discrediting me, especially posting as an anonymous coward? Please.... give us a break already! apk
Answer it. We KNOW you can't, because you're just yet another /. "ne'er-do-well" troll is all!
When you can show us that you've done more & better than I have in respected written publications in the arena of the computer sciences, + earlier, & that you have commercially sold software code to YOUR credit (and that your work has gone to the likes of MS-TechEd 2 yrs. in a ROW as a finalist in its HARDEST category (SQLServer Performance Enhancement))? Then you can talk.
APK
P.S.=> Here is that list, for your reference, troll:
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
Lastly, lately (this year)?
It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here:
http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html
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Again/once more:
When you can show us you've done more than that to GOOD acclaim in respected written publications in the Art & Science of Computing? THEN, & only then, can you even BEGIN to *THINK* you're in the same league as myself, or attempt to discredit me... troll! apk
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632
Why'd you run from discussing that troll?
You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> Yes - You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it - PLUS, you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632
Why'd StenchWarrior run from discussing that then? LMAO... gives us a break. Just because YOU sit there & "take it" from trolls like him (a big talking "ne'er-do-well" troll no less), doesn't mean the rest of us do.
StenchWarrior sure "talks a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? StenchWarrior RAN!
(OR, didn't StenchWarrior troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> Yes - StenchWarrior, the TROLLING "Ne'er-Do-Well" sure can "dish it out", but StenchWarrior cannot take it - PLUS, StenchWarrior RAN like the trolling coward he is... lol! apk
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632
Why'd you run from discussing that troll?
You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> Yes - You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it - PLUS, you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk
MMmhmmm... Because removable SD is a futuristic, forward-looking technology. JHC! The standard (and only) version of OS X Lion includes all the server tools you could want. Flip a switch to turn on a VPN and connect to your home Mac (or setup your own PPTP/L2TP VPN for Windows/Linux) from your iDevice (or XOOM, or whatever). You now have access to all of your files. Other than transferring photos to the iDevice (for which there has been a solution for a while now) what do you haters want to do with removable storage OTHER THAN find a use for all of these stupid, cheap cards that you/we have lying around? You might as well whine that the thing doesn't have a CD/DVD drive.
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632
Why'd you run from discussing that troll?
You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> Yes - You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it - PLUS, you RAN like the trolling coward you are...
AND
All your "friends" (translated from "troll speak" on your part = you under diff. logon registered user accounts, & everyone here KNOWS that goes on here)?
LMAO - "they" are either you posting as AC, or you under diff. registered "luser" accounts - you're NOT fooling anyone with that b.s.... the person who posted in my favor only cited what was shown in YOUR "source" (poor & ERRONEOUS technically, as it was, lol)...apk
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632
Why'd you run from discussing that troll?
You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> Yes - You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it - PLUS, you RAN like the trolling coward you are...
AND
All your "friends" (translated from "troll speak" on your part = you under diff. logon registered user accounts, & everyone here KNOWS that goes on here)?
LMAO - "they" are either you posting as AC, or you under diff. registered "luser" accounts - you're NOT fooling anyone with that b.s., StenchWarrior...apk
I don't know whether Apple opted for the more ambiguous phrasing just in order to use the word "thin" and not the word "thick", or because they're hoping to confuse people into thinking the iPad 2 is 33% the thickness of the iPad 1.
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632
Why'd you run from discussing that troll?
You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> Yes - You sure can "dish it out" but you cannot take it - PLUS, you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk
Is apple going to finally turn that off in iOS 4.3? There is no logic behind why it was added in 4.2, but when I set "text message tone - none" I expect there to be no tone. I don't expect there to still be a sound when I send and receive messages.
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632
Why'd you run from discussing that troll?
You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> Yes - You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it - PLUS, you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk
"See his sense of humour, or rather complete lack of one showing. I had hoped that when he turns 13 this year he would start acting more adult. Ah well, such is life." - by Anonymous Coward alias StenchWarrior LOL on Wednesday March 02, @05:58PM (#35363020)
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632
Why'd you run from discussing that troll?
You sure "talk a big game" but when it came down to specifics?? YOU RAN!
(OR, didn't YOU troll ME, first, there?)
APK
P.S.=> Yes - You sure can "dish it out", but you cannot take it - PLUS, you RAN like the trolling coward you are... lol! apk
You're confusing a gyroscope with GPS
No, actually I had misread "digital compass" as including GPS support. I see what you mean. Very annoying.
The base models can kind of do location, but not well.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It may be 33% thinner, but it's still fatter than Steve Jobs.
Really?
What overseas airline are you flying that's so janky there are no power outlets at the seats?
Even cheapo American Airlines installed seat power on it's 20+ year old domestic service MD-80s years ago.
It's actually 66% thinner (1/3 of previous model).
A - Wrong. The 'tr' invocation converts everything to lower case.
B - Wrong. The 's/[[:space:]][[:space:]]*$//' sed part does exactly that.
C - Wrong. Trailing comments are stripped by the 's/#.*//' sed part.
D - Badly re-inventing the wheel is not something to be proud of.
5 minutes? Lies. At the last count your Delphi crapware still took hours. That script does everything your program does, and even if your 5 minute runtime claim is correct the script is 5 times faster.
Oh APK. You're even crap at trolling these days, let alone programming.
janky
you don't happen to play "magic the gathering" do you?
(1.21 gigawatts) / (88 miles per hour) = 30 757 874 newtons
Who knew. Does it works yet? I mean I expect when I go to the Internet that I will have the full Internet experience so just asking... I'm not spending 800 for a fanboi toy. Cool is not my thing, fully functional, working tools are.
One needs to have used an iPad in all usage scenarios for some time to understand the brilliance of the smartcover's intertwined functions. Sort of like how back when the first mice came out people were still debating the fine points of keyboard layouts and light indicators, for few as yet understood the significance of left vs right-handed mouse designs having little experience with the new UI.
You really have to be within paradigm to grok it deep
The XOOM compares to the higher-end iPad models with 3G. In fact, it won't even let you switch on Wi-Fi until you've paid for a month of 3G.
he should have been nicer - even to his lowly employees.
/Karma
It may come as a surprise to you, but most of us are amateur photographers. We have amateur cameras and not 6000 EUR monsters like yours. The overwhelming majority of these cameras have SD slots.
If have the camera connection kit and I think it sucks.
Manipulating larger sets of images is a disaster on the ipad, you have to click on each one individually to delete them for crying out loud!
And thanks to Apple's policies, no-one is allowed to write an app to make it easier. Only the built in app may delete images!
See my subject-line above, first.
Too bad you didn't write the functionality of the programs you merely USED, yourself, such as:
ping
sed
grep
sort
uniq
tr
cat
rm
awk
wget
zip
mv
& more!
Whereas I wrote the functionality of ALL 12++ of the apps' you merely USED, myself, & into a single easily used GUI app!
(Plus, your script? It is only charmode/tty terminal stuff, & today's world IS gui to end users).
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"5 minutes? Lies. At the last count your Delphi crapware still took hours." - .by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 03, @05:15AM (#35366882)
It's no lie: The more I broke the data up, the faster it ran... pretty simple really!
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"That script does everything your program does, and even if your 5 minute runtime claim is correct the script is 5 times faster" - .by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 03, @05:15AM (#35366882)
No it doesn't: Your script is "locked" into transforming 127.0.0.1 to 0.0.0.0 only...
Wwhat about 0 conversions (yes, 0 still works on Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003 as a blocking "IP address" )? You do NOT cover that, my program, does.
APK
P.S.=>
"Oh APK. You're even crap at trolling these days, let alone programming." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 03, @05:15AM (#35366882)
See my subject-line above, first. Secondly, the day you've done ALL of this, & before I did, that showed your work appeared in respected written publications in the Computer Sciences arena:
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
Lastly, lately (this year)?
It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control
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A Slashdot poster criticizing other Slashdot posters for criticizing Slashdot posters is...oh, fuck it, nevermind.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Are you really going to plug in 5 speakers and a sub to your 10" tablet? You going to carry around 5.1 speakers? Is anyone going to actually use this feature?
Yes I know you could dock it into a stereo setup at home for entertaining, but really....
HD Video is nice, though a bit limited. As you could fit like two movies on your 32GB model. Which means you have to stream it all....
When the boss is away...
When they came for the communists, I said "He's next door. Take him away. Goddam commies."
This is Wisconsin. We just got grunge last year.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
So probably 33% more likely to break, amirite or amirite?
I thought CF cards were on the way out. I've got an older Kodak that uses the CF, but most everything else I see uses SDs.
I wasn't so much thinking of photo storage or transferring photos as much as I would rather have a removable/exchangable disk vs. having to upgrade to a larger internal drive and port over everything via USB.
If you've never been modded as "flamebait" or "troll," you've never tried to argue a minority viewpoint here!
The iPad 2 hardware is nice. Too bad it doesn't run Android or WebOS.
The "cover" is a direct nod to the eBook market in general, and the Kindle in particular. Kindles have a coulpe of notches that let you fit a cover, and even power a booklight on the Kindle 3. If you saw the presentation, they started off talking about how successful iBooks were. That's another bug market for Apple, and while they haven't fixed the LCD vs ePaper disadvantage, the lighter and thinner iPad 2, as with the covers, is very eBook friendly.
I actually think the Droid's use of magnets to sense the type of dock (car, desktop) was a cooler use of magnets. But this works fine, and its so very Apple... they would not have chosen a cover attachement technology that would even slightly compromise device esthetics.
Motorola Xoom
"You fail it. It is programming." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 03, @02:59PM (#35372262)
How can you say I "failed", when I actually wrote my app and all of its parts (unlike yourself using 13++ *NIX commands you did NOT write yourself).
Another thing is that you are "trapped" in console mode "apps" (I use that term loosely, because it would be like calling DOS batchfiles "programming") using scripts... i.e./e.g.-> You couldn't do an app like this -> http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/390/APK_Matrix_ScreenSaver.html or, many others.
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"So, yeah, just change 's/127\.0\.0\.1/0.0.0.0/' to 's/127\.0\.0\.1/0/' ZOMG! So locked!!!" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 03, @02:59PM (#35372262)
The point was there, and you HAD to admit it... now, WHO FAILED here? Not I...
APK
P.S.=> You chose your tool well though, for the "job @ hand" even though you didn't write the programs you use (13 of them no less)... because for example, AT&T/Bell Labs *NIX? It was primarily INITIALLY made to do just what you & I are here: String processing work, & *NIX's have what?? 42 yrs. of refinement that going for them??? apk
You still are hardcode LOCKED to zeustracker & more (YOU FAIL):
"Yup. If I want to dig a hole, I don't start by making myself a shovel. I pick up a (free!) shovel and dig the damn hole" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 03, @05:16PM (#35374100)
Like I said above then: TOO BAD YOUR APP STILL FAILS! Hardcodes, galore... & you REWROTE IT (yes, I have the first model too, & you changed it (I did check)).
Which you changed to the NEW version, because of what I wrote here LONG ago regarding mistakes in "your work" (even though you didn't write 13 programs you used in it):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34728830
That's where I levelled the SAME critiques @ your work (not really yours, you are just using *NIX commands) & you fell silent... only to try to return & "Fool Me" with newly written amended code, per my critiques here and in the URL above, long ago?
Please... lol!
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"You've spent so long reinventing tools that you've failed to spot that there's an easier, faster, better way." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 03, @05:16PM (#35374100)
You're the one wasting MONTHS now rewriting that script (yes, I saved the first model & you DID CHANGE IT to account for the things I pointed out here... did you *THINK* pulling that "little trick" was going to FOOL ME? Guess again, lol!)
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"You DO fail it. It is not wasting your time." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 03, @05:16PM (#35374100)
You are the one wasting time writing up an app that's STILL hardcoded to ZEUSTRACKER ONLY (& when you try to import other HOSTS files from other sources? You'll be in for a surprise I think - because their formats & trailing b.s. in # symbols, blanks etc. is DIFFERENT than that one only!)
My app? Has no such problems... it's GUI, & completely FLEXIBLE for a number of sources!
APK
P.S.=> Do I have to post the original model of your script to prove this? apk
Gah. Why have I spent so much time threading myself through a bunch of nerdy girls text fighting about toys? Just disappointing myself about myself to make it near halfway through this inanity.
By the way, add me to the list that wants more ram and better rez. I'll get a tablet when they are better in a couple of years past this gen. Definitely been waiting for tablets and touch to take hold, but I don't believe we are quite there yet. No matter what spin on it there is, I don't like having someone choose "No Flash for YOU". (Yes, I know of all the concerns and Adobe's dimwitted programming, but I'd rather choose for myself thank you.) I do credit Apple for jump starting a languishing segment that I have such faith in, but walled gardens, no matter how lush at any given time, still make my pee burn. (I look forward to those comments...)
I am quite a fan of Jonathan Ive's design team, though I can't afford more than sub 500$ laptops at the moment, (which is the real sweet spot deal right now no matter how shiny Ipads are).
iOS wasn't "designed from the ground up" for anything; iOS is a derivative of OS X, which is a derivative of NeXT, which is a derivative Mach, Stepstone, and GNU tools, and incorporates some ideas and designs from Smalltalk-80 libraries. iOS is a slight variant of a old workstation operating system.
Except that a 4-5 year old Apple device will have serious limitations and incompatibilities compared to current versions of iOS. Realistically, Apple users need to upgrade every 1-2 years, just like everybody else, and then the higher price very much matters.
"You can check the times on pastebin. The 30 or so minutes spent (in total) messing about with that script was well spent - I have completely embarrassed you." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 03, @08:24PM (#35375742)
You rewrote it again, after I pointed out various things it did not do correct here, and 1-2 months ago, here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34728830
That's where I levelled the SAME critiques @ your work (not really yours, you are just using 13 *NIX commands others actually wrote, not yourself) & you fell silent because your 1st version failed on all the things I noted here too
(Now, you added on the things I noted you failed on before... only to try to return & "Fool Me" with newly written amended code, per my critiques here and in the URL above, long ago? Please...)
APK
P.S.=> Your 1st version from the URL above, & long ago:
All the updates to that script were made during the /. thread it was first posted in, all of which you saw at the time. You remember - the thread that you ran away from when you realised you were gettting your ass handed to you by a Sysadmin with a few lines of basic scripting.
Poor APK. Owned by an Unix weenie. How will you ever live it down?
Because see below: it's NOT the same as what you're posting now as your script (meaning you went & made changes after I made you look like a FOOL, lol, because your original script failed), & you only added the tr work AFTER it & AFTER I POINTED OUT HOW YOUR SCRIPT FAILED, here, before (2 months ago):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34728830
where you made a FOOL OF YOURSELF, and I showed exactly how/when/where/why your original model script FAILED!
Explain that!
EXPLAIN THAT (good luck)
(You can't & now? NOW, you have to ADMIT you made changes after I found the errors in your original script 2 months ago, which showed it was FLAWED, and now you're trying to say you didn't redo/correct your script PER MY POINTS? Please... your "script kiddie script" FAILED, vs. how my program works (which IS complete on all ground for HOSTS file processing)).
APK
P.S.=> Trying to come in here & "fool us" by redoing your script & trying to say it was your original one, when I can point out EXACTLY where you did not do the things I noted there AND HERE, & lol, you FAILED HUGELY AGAIN, lol, because you still have to make changes (too many hardcodes, too limited, etc.)... apk
You're really reaching now, APK.
If I did spend "months" writing it, I've beaten your development time by about a decade.
If your app does take the 5 minutes to run that you claim, my script is still 5 times faster.
So, who's failing here? You. You fail it. It is everything.
Of course, we're both ignoring the massive elephant in this tiny room: nobody with any measurable intellect, let alone experience in computing, would abuse the hosts file in this way. If anything, I've exceeded your idiocy - I've created a more efficient method of doing something utterly moronic.
Yeah, sure seems that way.
You failed because your program is still hardcoded to 127.0.0.1 & 0.0.0.0 (and it fails to do 0 processing).
You failed because you tried to "pull the wool over our eyes" here and I showed that you had to correct your program & exactly as I said you had to in this thread earlier, and also 2 months ago before that, here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34728830 (and yes, EVEN BEFORE THAT TOO).
(At this rate, the 3rd time I know of no less? You'll never get it fully right apparently, even with ME pointing the way and showing you what you have to do to make it right).
APK
P.S.=> Lastly? You didn't create a thing - you used 13 other *NIX programs to do work for you, nothing more... that is not "creation"... far from it! apk
So you admit that the script is superior to your app in both development time and performance, for the 0.0.0.0 output case, at least. Since removing the string '.0.0.0' from the sed line will produce the '0' type hosts file, we can confidently say that the script is also similarly superior for that use case.
That's all I needed to know, APK. Thanks.
"Imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery", but, only IF the imitation works fully, & properly (yours still does not, and you've been building it for 3 months now, & PER WHAT I SHOWED & TOLD YOU IT FAILED ON NO LESS, 3x now):
"So you admit that the script is superior to your app in both development time and performance, for the 0.0.0.0 output case, at least." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @01:55PM (#35390462)
Again: Your "script kiddie script", which you didn't write these programs for it:
Doesn't work fully & properly on all possible cases... and, it still does not, period.
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"Since removing the string '.0.0.0' from the sed line will produce the '0' type hosts file, we can confidently say that the script is also similarly superior for that use case." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @01:55PM (#35390462)
Proving you do NOT have it working fully & properly still on YOUR end (that paragraph alone is YOUR ADMISSION OF THAT MUCH)... &, you still have not shown us it works on other sources (ones I supplied you, which further proves I have been "walking you thru this" to get it right... & you STILL have not).
APK
P.S.=> Keep working @ it though, it's not going to hurt... but, do test it for 0 (vs. 127.0.0.1 & 0.0.0.0 ) & also test it over other sources other than zeustracker and for more than just the entries ZEUSTRACKER supplies (because that is only a TINY FRACTION of what you have to process (typically, my system has to go thru 950,000 - 1 million entries on a processing run)... apk
Try to do some sort of argc/argv parameter intake type work for your script so you can pass it what to work on (e.g.-> 127.0.0.1, 0.0.0.0, or 0)?
That would fix that much, and you'd be 1 step closer to 'perfection'... and?
Yes - I still think you're going to find out that because of the diff. formats all the hosts file makers do out there, that you're still going to have to do more string processing fixes (but, I haven't looked @ your latest/greatest either, especially since I can just cite things I know that didn't work last round either & still don't on YOUR end).
APK
P.S.=>
"Have you actually resorted to bare faced lies now?" - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @02:47PM (#35390914)
You mean like YOU saying you did ALL THE WORK in that "script kiddie script" of yours, when in reality, all you did was use the work of others in these 13++ programs:
ping
sed
grep
sort
uniq
tr
cat
rm
awk
wget
zip
unzip
mv
?
Hmmm??
Like you saying your program was "perfect", for the 3rd time now no less and I showed again, where & how + why it is not???
(Please... give us a break already, lol!)
Like you trying to "fool us all" by coming in here for the 3rd time saying your work is done on this "script kiddie script" after 3 months or more now, & it's STILL NOT WORKING RIGHT????
apk
*sigh* Fine, APK. Here's a version that outputs '0' style hosts files if the you run it with '0' as an arg:
http://pastebin.com/nNZ7sc9h
So now I have completely replicated your app, but in 64 lines of shell. These 64 lines of shell were produced in 1/40th the time you took to get to where you are, and run 5 times faster.
By the way, did you write the Delphi compiler? Or the Delphi/Win32 standard libraries that your program uses? No. You did not. So lets not hear any more of the bullshit about me not having written sed. By choosing more suitable tools, I have created a better solution. A better solution to a problem that should never have been solved in the first place.
I hereby declare victory over APK. I can see the headlines - "Unix Sysadmin destroys experienced Delphi developer in hosts file idiocy."
See subject-line above... first:
"So now I have completely replicated your app, but in 64 lines of shell. " - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @03:48PM (#35391406)
See subject-line above... lol!
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"These 64 lines of shell were produced in 1/40th the time you took to get to where you are, and run 5 times faster. " - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @03:48PM (#35391406)
You have no idea how long it took me to write my app. I never noted it here, or in the last thread either iirc... care to debate that or prove it wrong? My apps' been working for years now, perfectly. Your has not.
(I literally also had to tell you EXACTLY what to fix and where, saving you time also, mind you._)
As far as runtime speed? In GUI form, I can do 1 million entries in around 5 minutes... & in charmode/tty console/DOS app mode, I can do it in 10x less than that, but today's world is NOT a character mode app one, it's GUI... & your "Script Kiddie Script"? Sure isn't gui!
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"By the way, did you write the Delphi compiler? " - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @03:48PM (#35391406)
Did you write the 13++ *NIX commands you merely USED? No, that is certain... but, I did write ALL OF THEIR FUNCTIONALITY into my application, myself (whereas you did not) & I have written NUMEROUS API's & interfaces in my time with around 14 diff. languages over that timeframe professionally.
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"Or the Delphi/Win32 standard libraries that your program uses? " - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @03:48PM (#35391406)
Did you write the 13++ programs you merely USED, as well as any libraries THEY NEED?? No... you are DOUBLY AT FAULT on that account, so... don't go "tossing stones" when YOU LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE!
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"So lets not hear any more of the bullshit about me not having written sed. " - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @03:48PM (#35391406)
Sed? That, alongside 12++ other programs you merely USED, in this list (and toss on their libs they call on? Even more):
ping
sed
grep
sort
uniq
tr
cat
rm
awk
wget
zip
unzip
mv
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"By choosing more suitable tools, I have created a better solution. A better solution to a problem that should never have been solved in the first place. " - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @03:48PM (#35391406)
That still doesn't work, and I practically created it FOR YOU, by showing YOU WHERE TO DO CORRECTIONS, & for the what? 4th time now??
(Plus, it's still NOT "Gui easy" to use... & I suspect it never will be!)
APK
P.S.=> Keep working on it though... one day? You MAY get it totally right... but, today's not that day & lastly?? Again: IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY - but, only when the knock-off imitation is as good as the original... apk
"You MAY get it totally right... but, today's not that day"
Uhh, today is that day. The script takes all of those data sources and produce a duplicate free hosts file with every entry present in either 0.0.0.0 or 0 form, and with no trailing comments.
Meh. Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls. Since it takes the Windows DNS cache about 3 hours to load a 650,000 entry hosts file, this is all clearly bollocks.
"What icing problem??" - by Anonymous Coward - LMAO: OBADIAH STANE on Saturday March 05, @03:48PM (#35391406)
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35390980
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35373206
( "DINGGGggggg....!!!", & see 'p.s. section below' & the film, IRON MAN... lol: which one are you? Obadiah Stane or Justin Hammer?? )
APK
P.S.=>
"You might want to look into it..." IRON MAN
, AND, the refer to the above, especially the 2 urls I posted, lol...
Especially in response to this, after I showed you HOW MANY TIMES NOW (4x or more - LOL: I think I deserve to be credited in its comments as pointing all those flaws in it out which you HAD TO CORRECT FOR, yet again... ) on how & where to fix it, tons of times now (& it's not GUI easy, & never will be either)... apk
"What icing problem??" - by Anonymous Coward - LMAO: OBADIAH STANE on Saturday March 05, @03:48PM (#35391406)
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35390980
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35373206
( "DINGGGggggg....!!!", & see 'p.s. section below' & the film, IRON MAN... lol: which one are you? Obadiah Stane or Justin Hammer?? )
Answer how you solved it, per the question in the subject-line above?
ANSWER = I told you how to, many times and on many errors in "your" work (more like 13 *NIX commands' work) & it's still not GUI, is it?
Heck - For all the tips I gave you, which you did implement? I deserve to be credited for architecting it, & more like bug fixes, lol, galore!
APK
P.S.=>
"You might want to look into it..." IRON MAN
, AND, the refer to the above, especially the 2 urls I posted, lol...
Especially in response to this, after I showed you HOW MANY TIMES NOW (4x or more - LOL: I think I deserve to be credited in its comments as pointing all those flaws in it out which you HAD TO CORRECT FOR, yet again... ) on how & where to fix it, tons of times now (& it's not GUI easy, & never will be either)... apk
See subject-line above, because you obviously lack understanding in your Operating Systems & their IP Stacks:
"Since it takes the Windows DNS cache about 3 hours to load a 650,000 entry hosts file, this is all clearly bollocks." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @04:42PM (#35391810)
Ahem: Cut the DNS Client Cache local service? No problem. It sucks anyhow (fixed length structure code it loads into) & the local diskcache subsystem caches HOSTS just fine, like it does any other file, speeding up access/reacess to it...
APK
P.S.=>
"Meh. Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @04:42PM (#35391810)
LOL, speak for yourself: I had to correct your work for you, http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35390980 , as 1 example thereof here, & I had to help you improve on it (lol, "correct your icing PROBLEMS", 4x now or more, & many times over a 3-4 month period already, with you trying this tons of times (and you're still not gui))... apk
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35392080
and here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35390980
For starters... refer to the subject line above, & now that set of 2 URLs I just posted, right above, too... lol!
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"What does it need a GUI for?" - by Anonymous Coward - OBADIAH STANE, lol on Saturday March 05, @05:09PM (#35392010)
Well, this is what for (from that "bad film" that was the film of 2008 the year it came out mind you):
"You had a great idea Tony, but my suit is more advanced in EVERY WAY..." - by Anonymous Coward - OBADIAH STANE, lol on Saturday March 05, @05:09PM (#35392010)
No, it's clearly, not... not only did I have to solve your "icing problem" (& others like it, which you did improve PER MY SUGGESTIONS/GUIDELINES no less) here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35390980 and others too?
But, again: Still not a GUI, thus not all of the functionality or ease of use... period.
Still - wish you luck, & it was nice on my part I think, SHOWING YOU HOW TO DO YOUR WORK (for you, lol, on my end here) TOO! Like I said: I ought to be credited for architecting it & fixing bugs... lol!
How'd you solve the icing problem (to Obadiah Stane in his stolen suit of Iron Man armor) & upping your cycles (to Whiplash in Iron Man II)...
Imitation? It IS the sincerest form of flattery - but, only IF the imitation is as good, that is... & yours. is not.
APK
P.S.=> You said you dupilcated all the functionality in my app (via using the work of others though in a script kiddie script, using 13 *NIX commands for string processing, pings, file work, & more - whereas I wrote up my program myself for those things & mine's gui), but I had to correct you and tell you how to do it right too... you ought to credit ME for "your work" (again, not really yours though, now is it? Nope, far, Far FAR from it!)... apk
See this, & "eat your words" first of all... lmao!
"I hereby declare victory over APK. I can see the headlines - "Unix Sysadmin destroys experienced Delphi developer in hosts file idiocy."
& now, this:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35392080
Where I had to set you straight on something even a novice Windows admin should know... lol!
LMAO!
(That, after your "boast" of admin skills, and my correcting your work on 4-5 points in the past on this script kiddie script:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35385894
and
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35390980
blows YOU, away...)
And, "your work" (that uses 13 programs others wrote)?
Again - It's still not GUI either!
(Despite your stating you duplicated ALL of my programs' functionality? Please...)
You are only declaring a victory over yourself, and showing us you needed MY HELP to improve your work many times now, even in the past, vs. these points I brought up on it (with your old code as evidence):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34728830
That uses 13++ *NIX commands (not your work there alone, & I wrote up the function of those in my app by my own work mind you), but also correcting you here this time 4 months ++ later no less here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=3538063
Yet again!
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"Big problem. With a 65,000 entry hosts file (1/10th the size of your hosts file), each name lookup takes ~3 seconds. I hate to even imagine how slow web browsing must be for you with a 650,000 entry hosts file. Why would you do that to yourself?" - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @05:47PM (#35392374)
Your tech skillz must be on the same level as your admin skills (not, see above, they're bad)... because I have seen this load up from a 5400 laptop HDD even, & it doesn't cause static like THAT, lol... heck, even on my primary testers' OLD system (Pentium II 400mhz iirc, no less) & it's an old rig, & doesn't do THAT either... lol!
(Personally, I load mine from a TRUE SSD, 4gb Gigabyte IRAM, non-flash RAM based, & that's also where i do webpage caching and a LOT more too).
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"Having a GUI doesn't make a program more than 5 times slower, now does it?" - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @06:01PM
Heh, try 10x as slow as character mode/tty terminal/console mode apps in more than just some cases, but the useability for "regular end users" goes up in GUI, no questions asked.
APK
P.S.=>
"I've demonstrated (with your help! Thanks for all your assistance, APK!) " - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @06:01PM
THAT YOU NEEDED MY HELP, MANY TIMES, OVER 4++ MONTHS NOW ON THIS SCRIPT KIDDIE SCRIPT OF YOURS... that's again, NOT ALL YOURS (the bulk of it really, because all you did was use the work of others in 13 *NIX programs, whereas I wrote my app myself for the same functionalities)... apk
My sysadmin skills are fine, thanks. I run around 250 Unix environments, in which is DNS and DHCP for ~20,000 users and a small number of life-critical systems. That the Windows resolver suffers such slowdowns when exposed to such a blatant abuse of the hosts file is neither surprising nor my concern, though.
"Heh, try 10x as slow as character mode/tty terminal/console mode apps in more than just some cases..." /any/ noticeable slowdown while showing a GUI. What on earth /are/ you doing?
Uhh, you're joking, right? You honestly think a GUI makes applications 10x slower?
Can you tell me the mechanism by which a GUI causes this slowdown? Can you tell me why a GUI would reduce the performance of a text processing application by 90%? Where's the bottleneck? Is your GUI using up 90% of the available CPU? You are clearly Doing It Wrong - I've written my fair share of applications (primarily n Java), and none of them exhibited
"My sysadmin skills are fine, thanks" - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @06:48PM (#35392854)
Well, not really... see below:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35392080
especially per this statement:
"That the Windows resolver suffers such slowdowns when exposed to such a blatant abuse of the hosts file is neither surprising nor my concern, though." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @06:48PM (#35392854)
It should be on 2 grounds:
1.) Before you shoot your mouth off, you should have been aware of it
&
2.) You're not as good of an admin as you'd like to think apparently... especially per fhe URL I just posted above.
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"Uhh, you're joking, right? You honestly think a GUI makes applications 10x slower?" - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @06:48PM (#35392854)
The GUI model of my application, which consolidates 3 others I wrote in charmode/tty term/DOS console based apps is slower than them... by around 10x in 2 of them. The gui was just for others if they wanted to use it (I don't distribute it publicly though, I stopped freeware creation in 2004), and for consolidating all of the function you used 13++ *NIX programs for into 1 easy to use GUI one here.
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"You are clearly Doing It Wrong" - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @06:48PM (#35392854)
Funny: My app works, fully per all of the constraints we've both been using UNDER MY GUIDANCE correcting your string processing errors, and your useability issues too... yours, it certainly DID NOT, and you corrected PER MY SUGGESTIONS, everytime (for 4++ months now no less).
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"What on earth /are/ you doing?" - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @06:48PM (#35392854)
Getting the job done, & long before you ever even tried, and even with my help and corrections it took you how many months of work now? 4++ or more?? You still haven't duplicated my app in full... and your sysadmin skills? Man: See above!
APK
P.S.=> "IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY", but, ONLY WHEN THE IMITATION DOES ALL OF WHAT THE ORIGINAL DOES, and if it was actually hand-made (as mine is, yours is not by using 13++ programs by others in a "Script Kiddie" script)!
AND
IF you architected it YOURSELF (you did not, heck, I did the work for that FOR YOU here & in other threads in the past too months ago here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34728830 ... apk
"You're not as good of an admin as you'd like to think apparently... especially per fhe URL I just posted above." /used/ to the abysmal performance of your hosts.
I'm a Unix admin; I really couldn't care less about the behaviour of the Windows resolver. Using a 65000 entry hosts file results in a massive slowdown on Windows XP in a VirtualBox VM, and this is a phenomenon I have observed first hand. Perhaps you're just
"The GUI model of my application, which consolidates 3 others I wrote in charmode/tty term/DOS console based apps is slower than them... by around 10x in 2 of them."
Yeah, so, why? Why are you the only programmer in the history of Windows programming who has managed to code an application so badly that the GUI caused a 90% slowdown.
There is no text mode version of your app, is there? There is only the GUI version and it's slower than a week in jail.
Still waiting for those screenshots, by the way.
"Using a 65000 entry hosts file results in a massive slowdown on Windows XP in a VirtualBox VM, and this is a phenomenon I have observed first hand. Perhaps you're just /used/ to the abysmal performance of your hosts." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @08:18PM (#35393422)
Then, you're doing something wrong, or you have something in your VM setup that's "off" possibly (you figure it out),
I have seen HOSTS files almost as large as 940,000 lines load first time quickly (and folks like mvps.org can tell you the same too).
Yes, fast load of HOSTS, especially once cached, & even off 5400 rpm laptop drives + old Pentium II systems (450mhz ones using Windows 2000/XP), & quicker still once they are cached into the local caching subsystem.
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"There is no text mode version of your app, is there?." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @08:18PM (#35393422)
There is, but it's in 3 parts (a gatherer - sorter, a deduplicator, & a final string processor)... all my GUI does is duplicate their function, & do it in 1 package that's easy to use.
(Fact is, I usually "prototype" some apps in console mode first, because it's less coding & yes, faster too (but, not as useable)).
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"I'm a Unix admin; I really couldn't care less about the behaviour of the Windows resolver." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @08:18PM (#35393422)
Then, you shouldn't open up your mouth on things you have NO CLUE ON - see my p.s. below for that on both your "admin skillz" and your "programming l33t haX0r" lol, skillz)...
Like you did above, and I had to correct you on, many times now, on many points, over many months now each time you've tried this!
(Like I had to help you and correct you on things your "Script Kiddie script" COPY of my GUI app didn't do right, and you followed my suggestions TO THE LETTER - you ought to credit me for architecting your work (which isn't really yours, it's only an amalgamation of 13 others work in *NIX programs)).
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I don't distribute my apps anymore like I did from 1995-2004, sorry... it's my app, for my own purposes & that's how she's going to stay.
APK
P.S.=> You ought to be crediting me for all the help I've given you to correct your screwups in this tiny script over 4++ months now in fact...
Examples of ALL of that abound thru this thread, & others in the past... here are some examples thereof:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35373206
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35385894
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35390980
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35392080
AND MONTHS AGO, here also:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34728830
(And there was even a time BEFORE THAT too!)
The funniest part though, is that my "CAPTCHA" is "mimicked"... & you've TRIED to mimick MY WORK, only to fail on so many points & to have you have to get help & suggestions/pointers from ME no less? Please...
"IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY" but, only IF the imitation does all of the things the original does, and you wrote and architected it yourself (which you did not, you used the work of 13 other *NIX programs, and had ME show you what else to do to fix it roughly 5x or more now), period...apk
You still haven't addressed the issue of why your app is so slow. Blaming the GUI doesn't cut it - millions of applications have GUIs and many are blistering quick. Is it your precious Delphi that's the problem? You've previously made great claims of Delphi's superior text processing performance, so that can't be it:
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/secure-windows-2000-xp-server-2003-and-even-vista-make-fun-do-t3511888p5.html
"It was built in the MOST efficient & fastest code combination I know of (Borland Delphi 7.x, Win32 API, & Inline Assembler code)"
You can't address the issue, because you lack the skills to do so. Your application's performance is terrible and you have no idea how to fix it. I have made no claims about my programming prowess but it's plain to see that despite your occasional mentions in historical IT press and your laughable 'suggestion' credit in a defrag program, you're just not very good at software development.
I'm sure you will copy-paste your list of magazine mentions again, and tell us all how you made a screensaver that one time, but the fact remains that you're unable to write a simple program to process a few MB of text in a reasonable time. That's pretty sad.
A 5 min. runtime isn't slow, first of all.
"You still haven't addressed the issue of why your app is so slow" - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @10:36PM (#35394100)
I already know it's 10x as fast as that in the console mode apps it came from though, & a 5 min. runtime is good enough for me in GUI!
(Something your "script kiddie script" can NEVER be... lol!)
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"You can't address the issue, because you lack the skills to do so." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 05, @10:36PM (#35394100)
LOL, like that's supposed to "bait me" into arguing with you?
You, whose "script kiddie script" still doesn't do all my GUI app does, and that I also showed you how to fix so many times now, over the past 4 months on this forums 3 times now, in 5 problem areas in it cited in this thread and others (as you stalk me on this and have to leave with your tail behind your legs due to mistakes you made, & then trying to "pass it off as if it was always ok" when I posted your 1st model's code here
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35380636
To compare it and it is NOT THE SAME, and has been changed PER MY CRITIQUES which were done 2 months++ ago against your program, if not more, here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34728830
?
Please...
You still don't admit your own defeat? Especially after I practically ARCHITECTED & then RE-ARCHITECTED "your work" here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35373206
and here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35390980
and more... lol! I practically designed it & YOU OUGHT TO CREDIT ME FOR IT in fact!
That alone proves you cannot *THINK*... because you should have spotted ALL OF THAT, yourself. Especially a network admin/system administrator.
(Plus, "your work" (script kiddie script) really only uses 13 *NIX programs others wrote, and you did NOT write them, whereas I did all of their functionality into 1 single app myself, by hand).
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU STALK ME, but not only about this "Script Kiddie Script" of yours I have corrected 5x already for you, which you DID use my ideas for, thus I ought to be credited for its design, lol, no less... but you also seem to stalk me online too, from things you put up!
(You can stop stalking me now, you know... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Like I said above: A 5 min. runtime is not a lot to me... but if I wanted to "fix it" (not that it needs it, it's been working fine for years now)? I'd just separate the data more... it's how I got it to be MUCH faster as is! apk
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632 so if you trolls can't stand being re-trolled, then quit trolling others first.
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632 so if you trolls can't stand a re-trolling that shows you started the trolling first, as StenchWarrior is caught in within that URL above? Don't troll others first. StenchWarrior ran from answering questions in the URL above, so don't even try to tell us that he won anything. Running away is not a win by any means.
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632 so if you trolls can't stand a re-trolling that shows you started the trolling first, as StenchWarrior is caught in within that URL above? Don't troll others first. StenchWarrior ran from answering questions in the URL above, so don't even try to tell us that he won anything. Running away is not a win by any means.
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2015772&cid=35358632 so if you trolls can't stand a re-trolling that shows STENCHWARRIOR started the trolling first, as StenchWarrior is caught in within that URL above? Don't troll others first. StenchWarrior ran from answering questions in the URL above, so don't even try to tell us that he won anything. Running away is not a win by any means. So you little weasels under AC posts (most likely StenchWarrior himself) or other "registered 'luser'" accounts (again, most likely StenchWarrior himself, as we all know what goes on around here that way) that "post in his defense" don't cover up the fact he trolled 1st, he RAN, and he LOST.
You have to split your data 48 times times to get the runtime down to 5 minutes! That's mind bendingly bad.
OK, any deviation from a direct answer to the following question will be taken as an admission of defeat and failure on your part. Non-excuses like "it has a GUI" will also be taken as an admission of defeat and failure.
The question is: Why is your application so slow?
See subject-line, & you have been altering "your work" (not really YOURS, it's only a batch type script kiddie script @ most that uses 13 programs written by others, NOT YOU) since December 2010 or earlier, PER MY SPECIFICATIONS, 4-5x now over the course of the past 4++ months now no less (which showed your errors galore & work your script lacked to process hosts correctly). Care to deny it?
That proves 3 things:
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1.) You cannot *THINK* for yourself, or spot possible potential problems in computer programs]
2.) You cannot architect programs properly yourself
3.) That people like ME (I wrote the complete functionality of those 13 *NIX programs you used into MY PROGRAM, myself, you did not), WRITE THINGS FOR "PEOPLE LIKE YOU" (A noobie System Admins) BECAUSE YOU'RE HELPLESS WITHOUT US DOING THE WORK FOR YOU!
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Period!
APK
P.S.=> Do you want me to show the ORIGINAL link from December 28th that showed you messing up huge & FAILING big on this "script kiddie" script, too? I can do that... just ask - lol, 4 months and you STILL had to do work on it, per where I showed you your "script kiddie script" failed... lol! apk
Wait a minute. The 5 minutes is just to do the text processing? Dear Lord, APK, that's /really/ terrible.
That script does the text processing for a 25MB input file (25 bytes per line's about right, I think) in a shade under 25 seconds, so about 1MB/s. Most of the runtime of the full script is to do the downloads.
So, what takes your "MOST efficient & fastest code combination" 600 seconds can be done in 25 seconds using general purpose tools? Aww, man. That must suck.
When you can code all the programs you merely "used" (13 of them from *NIX text processing commands mostly), then, you can talk.
APK
Proof of that is below (from December 2010 where you tried this before, and failed, because of all the things I pointed out there):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34687498
YOU ALSO DIDN'T CODE A SINGLE SHRED OF TEXT PROCESSING YOURSELF, NOT ONE... you merely "used" what many others wrote in these 13++ *NIX programs:
ping
sed
grep
sort
uniq
tr
cat
rm
awk
wget
unzip
zip
mv
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See subject-line, & you have also been altering "your work" (again, not really YOURS, it's only a batch type script kiddie script @ most that uses 13 programs written by others, NOT YOU) since December 2010 or earlier, PER MY SPECIFICATIONS, 4-5x now over the course of the past 4++ months now no less, to make it work right (which showed your errors galore & work your script lacked to process hosts correctly).
Care to deny it?
That proves 3 things:
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1.) You cannot *THINK* for yourself, or spot possible potential problems in computer programs
2.) You cannot architect programs properly yourself
3.) That people like ME (I wrote the complete functionality of those 13 *NIX programs you used into MY PROGRAM, myself, you did not), WRITE THINGS FOR "PEOPLE LIKE YOU" (A noobie System Admins) BECAUSE YOU'RE HELPLESS WITHOUT US DOING THE WORK FOR YOU!
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Period!
APK
P.S.=> Per the URL above? You've taken 4 months with my tips and guidance on where you screwed up, and YET you STILL had to do work on it again here, per where I showed you your "script kiddie script" failed even more? Please... lol! apk
Ha ha ha. Yeah, sure. If thinking that I spent 'months' working on a 64 line script helps you sleep at night, then that's cool. Give me a call when the runtime of your "MOST efficient & fastest code combination" isn't measurable in ice-ages. Because that's how slow your application is.
Slow.
Slow application is slooooooooooooooooooooooow.
Proof from December 2010 where you tried this before, and failed, because of all the things I pointed out there, and in this thread here also (that you STILL had to "fix up" even now, 4 month later, lol...):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34687498
YOU ALSO DIDN'T CODE A SINGLE SHRED OF TEXT PROCESSING YOURSELF - you merely "used" what many others wrote in these 13++ *NIX programs:
ping
sed
grep
sort
uniq
tr
cat
rm
awk
wget
unzip
zip
mv
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Care to deny it?
That proves 3 things:
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1.) You cannot *THINK* for yourself, or spot possible potential problems in computer programs
2.) You cannot architect programs properly yourself
3.) That people like ME (I actually WROTE the complete functionality of those 13 *NIX programs you used into MY PROGRAM, myself, you did not), WRITE THINGS FOR "PEOPLE LIKE YOU" (A noobie System Admin) BECAUSE YOU'RE HELPLESS WITHOUT US PROGRAMMERS DOING THE WORK FOR YOU!
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Period!
(You're just another wannabe "/. troll" & script kiddie that I "schooled" yet again... easily: "too, Too, TOO EASILY - just '2EZ'", everytime!)
APK
P.S.=> So, per the URL above I posted: You've taken 4 months with my tips and guidance on where you screwed up, and YET you STILL had to do work on it again here, per where I showed you your "script kiddie script" failed even more? Please... lol! apk
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34658206
"Ha ha ha. Yeah, sure. If thinking that I spent 'months' working on a 64 line script helps you sleep at night, then that's cool." - by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 07, @02:32PM (#35409670)
That's from DECEMBER above, and it failed there too, per these points I noted on where it failed back then:
and now too:
Care to deny it?
(If so, then WHY did you have to DOUBLE your lines of script then, hmmm?? Perhaps because I SCHOOLED YOU BACK THEN, just like I did here now, on where "your work" (not yours, you merely "used" 13++ *NIX programs) failed??? Of course!)
APK
P.S.=> You have been SCHOOLED chump, yet again... especially for lying and saying your script worked back in December, only to have ME SHOW YOU WHERE & HOW IT DID NOT back then, and in this thread, EVEN MORE... even with you merely "using" the work of others (which I wrote the entire functionality of 13++ *NIX programs myself into a single easily used GUI program)... lmao! apk
Let's look at the outcomes, shall we:
You: Years of development, abysmal performance
Me: 4 months of non-development, excellent performance
lmao indeed.
Your script grew, with me showing you how/when/where/why it failed on HOSTS data processing (3x over 4 months now no less, lol!)
To which you used MY ideas to try to improve your "script kiddie script" (that uses the work of many others, not your own):
"Let's look at the outcomes, shall we:" - by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 07, @04:03PM (#35410992)
Lets!
First of all, back in December 2010, you said "your code" (script kiddie script you didn't write a SINGLE program of 13 you merely "used", user) worked fully & right, just as you have here now, months later, albeit this is from back in December next below:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34687498
Did it?
(Funny - it doesn't LOOK that way, now does it?? Nope!)
LMAO!
Not any more than it was 64 lines back then, and you TRIED to pass it off here as UNALTERED, LOL, & you were CAUGHT in that lie, as I have your orig. source, right here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34658206
It was more like 30 lines tops, only!
(AND, then, like it did this round? LOL, it didn't work - I had to point out the "holes" in it and you only NOW months later put up something closer to what it OUGHT to be, WITH MY HELP ONCE AGAIN!)
Heck, even here, 4 months later, it STILL DIDN'T WORK (& again I had to help you then, AND NOW too, again).
Like I said before: For all the pointers over 4 months now on where the "Script Kiddie Script" of yours failed, 5 or more of them? You ought to credit me for the work involved in bug fix pointers & architecture of it!
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"You: Years of development, abysmal performance" - by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 07, @04:03PM (#35410992)
A 5 minute runtime is not a lot, I can live with it (& make it faster by breaking the dataset up more & having the program work on smaller sets instead - I did that already & made it work many, Many, MANY times faster than it did before anyways already).
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"Me: 4 months of non-development, excellent performance" - by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 07, @04:03PM (#35410992)
Ahem: First of all, again - YOU DIDN'T WRITE A SINGLE SHRED OF ANY OF THE TEXT PROCESSING TOOLS YOURSELF, and yet you're trying to "pass them off" as YOUR WORK? Please...
You merely "used" what many others wrote in these 13++ *NIX programs:
ping
sed
grep
sort
uniq
tr
cat
rm
awk
wget
unzip
zip
mv
---
Care to deny it?
That proves 3 things:
---
1.) You cannot *THINK* for yourself, or spot possible potential problems in computer programs
2.) You cannot architect programs properly yourself
3.) That people like ME (I actually WROTE the complete functionality of those 13 *NIX programs you used into MY PROGRAM, myself, you did not), WRITE THINGS FOR "PEOPLE LIKE YOU" (A noobie System Admin) BECAUSE YOU'RE HELPLESS WITHOUT US PROGRAMMERS DOING THE WORK FOR YOU!
---
Period!
(You're just another wannabe "/. troll" & script kiddie that I "schooled" yet again... easily: "too, Too, TOO EASILY - just '2EZ'", everytime!)
APK
P.S.=> So, per the URL above I posted: You've taken 4 months with my tips and guidance on where you screwed up, and YET you STILL had to do work on it again here, per where I showed you your "script kiddie script" failed even more? Please... lol! apk
See subject-line above, & this:
"Your algorithm choice is so bad that you have to split your data set into 48 parts to get within 1/10 the performance of a Unix pipeline." - by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 07, @04:56PM (#35411814)
So what HOW I do my data?
Mine WORKS, fully, flexibly, and completely & is easy to use... Yes, even in GUI, it does the job in 5 minutes time, & can be faster (simply by splitting the data even more if I like, because that little trick, works).
I also have charmode versions that are literally 10x faster (just not as friendly to use) & work for this task...
However, UNLIKE your "script kiddie script" I even HELPED YOU WITH? My program works... & It has been working for YEARS now (since 2004 in my 1st version, & 2008 in the current one).
Which is VERY unlike your "Script Kiddie Script" that you didn't even write the commands for yourself (whereas I wrote all of their functionality myself, by hand, into a single easy to use app)
LOL... yours by way of comparison, even WITH MY HELP? It didn't work here, back in December:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34687498
Did it? NO! Lmao...
Not any more than it was 64 lines back then, and you TRIED to pass it off here as UNALTERED, LOL, & you were CAUGHT in that lie, as I have your orig. source, right here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34658206
It was more like 30 lines tops, only! AND, then, like it did this round? LOL, it didn't work - I had to point out the "holes" in it and you only NOW months later put up something closer to what it OUGHT to be, WITH MY HELP ONCE AGAIN!
Like I said before: For all the pointers over 4 months now on where the "Script Kiddie Script" of yours failed, 5 or more of them? You ought to credit me for the work involved in bug fix pointers & architecture of it!
APK
P.S.=> Again/lastly: YOU DIDN'T WRITE A SINGLE SHRED OF ANY OF THE TEXT PROCESSING TOOLS YOURSELF, and yet you're trying to "pass them off" as YOUR WORK? Please...
You merely "used" what many others wrote in these 13++ *NIX programs:
ping
sed
grep
sort
uniq
tr
cat
rm
awk
wget
unzip
zip
mv
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Care to deny it?
That & your trying to write a puny script kiddie script to do what my app has been doing for years, and you failing 3x now trolling/stalking me, on 5 points no less, ONLY proves 3 things:
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1.) You cannot *THINK* for yourself, or spot possible potential problems in computer programs
2.) You cannot architect programs properly yourself
3.) That people like ME (I actually WROTE the complete functionality of those 13 *NIX programs you used into MY PROGRAM, myself, you did not), WRITE THINGS FOR "PEOPLE LIKE YOU" (A noobie System Admin) BECAUSE YOU'RE HELPLESS WITHOUT US PROGRAMMERS DOING THE WORK FOR YOU!
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Period! apk
I have coded the 2 versions of my app (both the 2 gui ones & the 3 charmode ones) in total time, around 1 day tops actually, so you know (& not 8 hour day, just an hour here, an hour there)... & mine? It's ALWAYS worked... has yours?? NO:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34658206
That was the 1st time you said it did as you stalked me here, and I utterly spanked you, corrected you, & showed you where it failed on 5 points... lol, which you corrected for, just as I told you to!
Here in this exchange where you have stalked me, yet again? WELL, it was 2 more things even, with ME telling YOU how to write it up so it wouldn't blow it again here now, 4 months later... lol!
I can take credit here in fact!
However, now? Well, we also KNOW it's NOT completely yours, either.
In fact, very LITTLE of it can be said to be truly "yours" (because all you did was use commands whose functionality I wrote up myself, by hand, & you merely "use" the work of others, script kiddie...).
There IS a difference, you know, see my p.s. below!
Especially when I can show mine's been working all that time, where "yours" (not really yours though, per the above)?
Well... lol, even with my help, 3x now??
You STILL don't have it "all the way there"!
Even though you have STALKED me on this 3 times now, failed each time to produce something working right, and only to leave with your tail between your legs each time, which has been shown all thru this exchange where you have trolled/stalked me to!
Yes, you stalked me here &, yet again, only to have your poor work corrected once more, PER MY SPECS!
Yes - you ought to credit ME for writing & architecting it, because you sure blew it in the URL above... lol!
Especially after I helped you find problems in it, no less, which you DID correct for & add code for (because your current model is a LOT LONGER than your original here ->
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34658206
which you then there in that URL above, outright BRAGGED worked right... funny: How come 4 months later now, it's more than DOUBLED ITS SIZE?? I thought you bragged it was working there??? LOL, not!
APK
P.S.=> Do you like film? This is from "The Prestige":
You think about that... because I built ALL of what you merely "used" in these *NIX commands:
ping, sed, grep, sort, uniq, tr, cat, rm, awk, wget, unzip, zip, mv
Myself & into an easy to use GUI program... it was fairly easy imo, & its always worked - lol, UNLIKE "YOURS" (not REALLY yours though, is it? Nope!) apk
My charmode apps do the job faster than yours do actually, but this is not about you challenging that, but my rather the easier to use single package GUI app...
Well, your "script kiddie script" you didn't write 13 commands in (where I code my apps totally myself), lmao, didn't work when you outright BRAGGED it would, 4 months ago @ 30 lines of script kiddie code using others' work here
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34658206
Where mine (truly mine, I wrote all of it, not a script kiddie usage of 13 others' programs as you have) has ALWAYS worked, for years... yours, does not, even though you have stalked me 3 times on this, & left each time, including this one, with having to make corrections because you blew it on data processing, problem solving, & architecture.
LMAO!
You doubled its size in fact, and per WHOSE suggestions/pointers? Mine... credit me for creating that thing! LMAO...
APK
P.S.=> Do you like film? This is from "The Prestige":
"This wasn't built by a magician - this was built, by a wizard. A man who can actually DO, what magicians PRETEND to do" Michael Caine as Cutter, in 'THE PRESTIGE'
You think about that... because I built ALL of what you merely "used" in these *NIX commands:
ping, sed, grep, sort, uniq, tr, cat, rm, awk, wget, unzip, zip, mv
Myself & into an easy to use GUI program... it was fairly easy imo, & its always worked - lol, UNLIKE "YOURS" (not REALLY yours though, is it? Nope!) apk
Is it legal to write applications that run so slowly? I mean, surely there must be some legislation against the amount of power that gets wasted every time your app gets run.
Desktop Intel chips have about a ~70W TDP, so every time you run that app, you use a whopping 6.3Wh of electricity just for the processor. Think of what you're doing to the planet.
If your were to switch over to the script, you'd only be using about 0.6Wh. You'd also get a spare 4 minutes to do whatever you like. Maybe you could use that time to analyse where you went so badly wrong with your application (PROTIP: don't use bubble-sort next time).
I'll leave you with that thought APK.
Love and kisses.
Did it though? See here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34658206
?
Just answer the question.
(You're going to be asked this 3 times on 3 diff. occasions after you answer this one, your 1st trolling of myself)
That's been for over 4 months now, 3x, that you've stalked me on in regards to this...
So, this is where I will let YOU tell others here the results of that question above I just asked... with YOUR own words. Somehow though, I think you will evade that to NO end... especially because it will also show I architected your work as well.
(This is #1)...
APK
P.S.=> Do you like film? This is from "The Prestige":
In MY app, I built, by hand, ALL of what you merely "used" in these *NIX commands:
ping, sed, grep, sort, uniq, tr, cat, rm, awk, wget, unzip, zip, mv
You think about that... apk
"For goodness sake dont bother replying to APK troll. He is a malware author, and a complete loser asshole." - by Falconhell (1289630) on Wednesday March 02, @05:40PM (#35362794)
The day you've done ALL of this, & before I ever did also, in the art and sciences of computing (which for a "malware author" as you are libelling myself as mind you, I'd have to be pretty dumb for creating a security guide for Windows that's the MOST VIEWED on the planet & highly rated):
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
Lastly, lately (this year)?
It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here:
http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html
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Is the day the "likes of you", a forums troll, can even BEGIN to talk about myself, much less libel me here publicly, you troll!
LOL, I'd love to see your answer, because it will show us reading that YOU are "the complete loser and asshole", because I am PRETTY FAIRLY CERTAIN you cannot produce such a list as mine above, for all your "big talk"
APK
P.S.=> Lastly - For a "malware author" as you are libelling myself as, I'd have to be the dumbest one there is, because I am the author of the most viewed security guide there is for Windows online, bar-none, refer to the list above... apk
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35417262
(See you there, troll! Let's see you backup your BIG libelling mouth... )
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Also, since you seem to see fit to "speak for everyone"?
" Most people know this and just ignore him." - by Falconhell (1289630) on Wednesday March 02, @05:42PM (#35362822)
Well, ok - Explain these then (160++ or so mod ups for my posts here):
+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (8):
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139485&cid=26975021
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34350102
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1872982&cid=34264190
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139485&cid=26974507
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=170545&cid=14210206
http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175774&cid=14610147
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1806946&cid=33777976
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1901826&cid=34490450
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+4 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (4):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161862&cid=13531817
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167071&cid=13931198
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1290967&cid=28571315
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1461288&cid=30273506
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+3 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (6):
http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1930156&cid=34713952
http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=155172&cid=13007974
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=166850&cid=13914137
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=175857&cid=14615222
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=273931&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=20291847
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1021873&cid=25681261
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+2 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (30):
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1907266&cid=34529608
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=158231&cid=13257227
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1361585&cid=29360367
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2019504&cid=35417262
(See you there, troll! Let's see you backup your BIG libelling mouth...)
APK
P.S.=> Or, will you just "evade it" and run away, like the "ne'er-do-well" off-topic /. forums troll you are? apk
So, I thought about it.
Turns out I prefer fast software to extremely slow software. I asked around a bit, and everyone else thought the same thing too.
Maybe when you make your software fast enough, other people will want to use it. Something for you to aim for!
Well, you said your "script kiddie script" worked, fully, back in December 2010 here:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34658206
Did it? No.
In fact, you STALKED me to yet another post of mine, trying to say it worked fully there too:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34728830
Did it?? AGAIN - No!
(That's where I pointed out EVEN MORE "screwups" in it, because you didn't examine the data from HOSTS file makers, & how DIFFERENT it is between ALL of them - this I suspect you will STILL have issues with in fact!)
What makes anyone SURE it does now??
Fact is, I was going to ask you WHERE you got your data from, and how many records they produce for you to parse through...
(Because, as is, I have given you LOADS of pointers for 4++ months now, outta the "goodness of my heart" too, because you may have created something decent (albeit, with my guidance in architecting it PROPERLY), that others MAY wish to use - Yes, I'd actually LIKE to see you "do it right" & accurately, instead of how you went about it in those URL's above!)...
HOWEVER - I am willing to help anyone in that, even IF they are "attacking me" & "stalking me" constantly here, as an AC no less!
APK
P.S.=> I prefer ACCURATE software here, to speedy but INACCURATE software... ask your pals about that, lol! NOW, I am curious... why in HELL do you "stalk me" here, and from what you have said in your other attacks on myself, in other forums too... do I know you? apk
I troll you because your incoherent rants amuse me and countless others endlessly. A lesser man would not have responded to my goading in the first place, but you, Sir, are mental enough to argue with an AC for months on end.
This http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1929880&cid=34728830 wasn't me, by the way. You're an IT celebrity - your crazed verbal diarrhoea and determination to feed trolls it famous well beyond the comments of /.
Well, I'm out. It's been a blast. We should do this more often.
Yours forever, and ever, and ever, and ever,
AC