I remember this discussion from before. This is a horrible idea. Maybe in the future there will be some kind of controller on the firewire drive that lets you d that, but for now, it's just an IDE drive with an adpater. I'd forget about this option until drives get smarter. What is the point of this after all? If a machine is new enough to have firewire, it's new enought to have ethernet.
Networking is a good idead because
It's scalable. as you can add more machines later with minimal fuss
It isn't any slower over ethernet (especially 100Mb and 1000Gb)
LAN parties!!!
easily setup multiple os's to see the drive.
It's a bad idea because
It's not scalabe (easily)
you risk data corruption (even if it works)
the drive can't handle more than 1 operation at a time
it's an IDE drive, therefore the drive handles the rules of IDE, the bus is Firewire, but the adapter handles the rules of that
some os's expect different things out of a filesystem, Windows expects it to be nice and neatly formatted in fat32 or ntfs. Linux expects etx2 or etx3 (or any slew of others) to be formatted in that method. Mac's expect to see a partition table and that's it (that's why formatting a mac hd takes only as long as hitting the "Initialize" button) Therefore it is not an easily cross-platform scalable data-safe method. Use the network option, it isn't noticably slower, it is cross-platform very scalable very data-safe.
More than that, I think that the people who invent things and little gadget to go on guitars have gradually improving their technology to remove all kinds of pops, and unwanted "ambient" frequnecies out. Not knowing of course that it's these ambient waves that are responisble for making it sound so good.
I think this Jurassic Park quote sums it up for me
Scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn't stop to think if they should
Posted by CmdrTaco on Tuesday November 12, @09:20AM from the not-a-bad-idea dept. Smoking writes "It seems that Oracle just released libraries to allow low cost Linux clustering solutions using firewire... Aside from the coolness factor (imagine a beowulf cluster of DV cameras...) it's quite new for Oracle to release GPL software. They also seem to include really useful tools for NIC failover, Wizard building framework and integration of the cluster into Gnome (via a gnomevfs plugin)."
My point is that I don't think it's any different than a PPP type connection, you get prompted for a password and you either type it in, or hit enter if it's saved and blammo! You're on. since it's using open standards like https it would be pretty simplistic to make a neat little "dialer" that connects autmatically as soon as you click on it, but since it is all open standards you'd only have to write it for the biggest platforms i.e. windows mac and linux, everyone else is used to minor inconvenience anyway, and would probably be extremely loyal to your company for making it _that_ easy.
How is it any different thatn what they do now? only it is saved for them. Most browsers will save passwords, and those that don't the users are aware that they are on a strange platform or using old software and they will put up with it.
You could whip out a system real quick that uses DHCP and assigns the default gateway to a webpage, so that no matter where they go they get the same page. That page would be an ssl encrypted login page that assigns them the real ip and gateway, set to expire the second it goes offline or after a specified amount of time. This approach is totally scalable, totally cross-platform (got Be?;-) as anything that can use dhcp can use your network...and can be deployed across any tier, dsl, dial-up (if you wanted), wifi(802.11). Build 1 RADIUS server for all services, use MySQL as the user DB. Easy as pie.
They _have_ to. It was part of the deal Jobs and Gates cut way back when Jobs took over. It went something like this...Microsoft buys $500 mill (or thereabouts) in non-voting APPL (or AAPL? i don't remember) stock, apple drops the lawsuit still pending over the whole stolen code debacle, and IE becomes the default browser. This was the final nail in the coffin that was holding netscape...
only at 34x the cost of running your laptop!!! only imagine the breathtaking view of your full 2d @640x480 at 53Hz refresh!!! almost ready to run clustered doom!!
Seriously though. How cool is Mandrake? First to LSB, full GPL'd version of cd avail for download (damn you SuSE!!), lots of freebies, like the Single network firewall and the old Corporate server(i loved this back in the day), their prosuite stomps any other distro (and for $135 without doc's!), oh and mandrake runs on XBox!!:-) Now a cluster??
My only complaint is they are an RPM-based distro and I like apt-get. Something like the freebsd ports collection would be nice too though, but i just hate those rpm's.
Just so you don't think I'm a linux leech I have bought 3 version of linux inlcuding mandrakes prosuite, i can't donate code but i can donate ca$h.
I'm wondering though.
I remember part of the reason apple went with motorla G4's was for the altivec engine. Back when Motorala and IBM split they forked the powerpc chip (the then G3), when this happened the definition for the chips changed slightly. Motorola's definition of the G4 was a faster chip with the altivec engine. This is what allows for superfast processing during high floating point calculations (similar to MMX only phatter). This was also the part Apple was talking about when they used to advertise "twice as fast as pentium pc" because during those moments of super-intense number crunching, they were. IBM's definition of the G4 was a chip made with copper, shorter pipelines things like that. How is the switch to an IBM chip going to affect altivec? Since it's motorola technology I think it's safe to assume it won't be on the IBM chip. Will the IBM chip suffer at all during those slowdowns? Or will the extra 32 bit data path, in conjunction with copper, etc... be more than enough to make up the difference?
So how does it compare with prelude and portsentry? My understanding is that snort is only good at single networks, anything more than that you will want prelude. Any truth to this? ***this was on a prelude irc channel*** What's the real deal slasdot-istas?
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a long long time ago, i can still remember how that apple ][ used to make me smile
i knew that if i had the chance, i'd sit and hack without my pants and maybe i'd be happy for awhile
then out came 10 and i was happy then bad news on the doorstep, i couldn't take one more step I can't remember if i cried when i read 'bout that API but something touched me deep inside, the day, the OS died
bye bye open API put my linux over minix and then linux was mine
them windows boys was drinking coffee and sprite singing this'll be the day that i die. this'll be the day that i die. this'll be the day that i die.
did you write the system of love, do you have faith in Jobs above if the missing manual tells you so do you beleive in GPL, can linux save your hard drives soul? is windows making your drive go slow?
Well I know that you're in love with it, don't want to use that peice of shit You removed all your disks, beos i sure will miss i was a lonely teenage hackin buck, with neon case and an os that sucked but i knew i was out of luck the day the OS died
i started singing bye bye open API put my linux over minix and then linux was mine
them windows boys was drinking coffee and sprite singing this'll be the day that i die. this'll be the day that i die. this'll be the day that i die.
for 20 years we've waited for 10 we thought we'd be happy then cuz this was how an os should be when bill gates sold that aweful trash with code he borrowed from the macintosh and a voice came from you and me while steve jobs was looking down, bill gates stole his thorny crown te courtroom was adjourned, no verdict was returned while i read a book on PERL, while listening to the duke of earl we programmed in the dark, the day the os died
we started singing bye bye open API put my linux over minix and then linux was mine
them windows boys was drinking coffee and sprite singing this'll be the day that i die. this'll be the day that i die. this'll be the day that i die.
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Networking is a good idead because
It's scalable. as you can add more machines later with minimal fuss
It isn't any slower over ethernet (especially 100Mb and 1000Gb)
LAN parties!!!
easily setup multiple os's to see the drive.
It's a bad idea because
It's not scalabe (easily)
you risk data corruption (even if it works)
the drive can't handle more than 1 operation at a time
it's an IDE drive, therefore the drive handles the rules of IDE, the bus is Firewire, but the adapter handles the rules of that
some os's expect different things out of a filesystem, Windows expects it to be nice and neatly formatted in fat32 or ntfs. Linux expects etx2 or etx3 (or any slew of others) to be formatted in that method. Mac's expect to see a partition table and that's it (that's why formatting a mac hd takes only as long as hitting the "Initialize" button) Therefore it is not an easily cross-platform scalable data-safe method. Use the network option, it isn't noticably slower, it is cross-platform very scalable very data-safe.
This may seem like a stupid question to some of you, but how do you measure the temperature of an atom?
So now you can surf the internet from almost anywhere on their network!! *yay*
More than that, I think that the people who invent things and little gadget to go on guitars have gradually improving their technology to remove all kinds of pops, and unwanted "ambient" frequnecies out. Not knowing of course that it's these ambient waves that are responisble for making it sound so good.
I think this Jurassic Park quote sums it up for me
Scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn't stop to think if they should
Didn't just use maya (even though it's expensive)
Actually took the time to develop something that is open and other studios can use for free as well.
I guess the GPL actually does work for the community after all...huh imagine that.
Now we're gonna have "Live Double Doppler" on guitars too?
Posted by CmdrTaco on Tuesday November 12, @09:20AM
from the not-a-bad-idea dept.
Smoking writes "It seems that Oracle just released libraries to allow low cost Linux clustering solutions using firewire... Aside from the coolness factor (imagine a beowulf cluster of DV cameras...) it's quite new for Oracle to release GPL software. They also seem to include really useful tools for NIC failover, Wizard building framework and integration of the cluster into Gnome (via a gnomevfs plugin)."
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ahhh --hehe
My point is that I don't think it's any different than a PPP type connection, you get prompted for a password and you either type it in, or hit enter if it's saved and blammo! You're on. since it's using open standards like https it would be pretty simplistic to make a neat little "dialer" that connects autmatically as soon as you click on it, but since it is all open standards you'd only have to write it for the biggest platforms i.e. windows mac and linux, everyone else is used to minor inconvenience anyway, and would probably be extremely loyal to your company for making it _that_ easy.
How is it any different thatn what they do now? only it is saved for them. Most browsers will save passwords, and those that don't the users are aware that they are on a strange platform or using old software and they will put up with it.
You could whip out a system real quick that uses DHCP and assigns the default gateway to a webpage, so that no matter where they go they get the same page. That page would be an ssl encrypted login page that assigns them the real ip and gateway, set to expire the second it goes offline or after a specified amount of time. This approach is totally scalable, totally cross-platform (got Be? ;-) as anything that can use dhcp can use your network...and can be deployed across any tier, dsl, dial-up (if you wanted), wifi(802.11). Build 1 RADIUS server for all services, use MySQL as the user DB. Easy as pie.
That would be a neat rack mount. Turn the lcd sideways and then you don't have to have a mopnitor in the rack.
They _have_ to. It was part of the deal Jobs and Gates cut way back when Jobs took over. It went something like this...Microsoft buys $500 mill (or thereabouts) in non-voting APPL (or AAPL? i don't remember) stock, apple drops the lawsuit still pending over the whole stolen code debacle, and IE becomes the default browser. This was the final nail in the coffin that was holding netscape...
That's pretty hip stuff
Oh come on someone had to say it!!
Mod the parent up! urpmi is awesome, I guess i've been stuck in tgz hell for too long, i should have poked my head out to look at the new tools :-)
...the apt-get vs urpmi debate begins........NOW!
Use urpmi, unless you're a debian geek.
i sense a disturbance in the force, a new erra
only at 34x the cost of running your laptop!!!
only imagine the breathtaking view of your full 2d @640x480 at 53Hz refresh!!! almost ready to run clustered doom!!
Imagine a beowolf cluster of these!!! ;-)
:-)
Seriously though. How cool is Mandrake? First to LSB, full GPL'd version of cd avail for download (damn you SuSE!!), lots of freebies, like the Single network firewall and the old Corporate server(i loved this back in the day), their prosuite stomps any other distro (and for $135 without doc's!), oh and mandrake runs on XBox!!
Now a cluster??
My only complaint is they are an RPM-based distro and I like apt-get. Something like the freebsd ports collection would be nice too though, but i just hate those rpm's.
Just so you don't think I'm a linux leech I have bought 3 version of linux inlcuding mandrakes prosuite, i can't donate code but i can donate ca$h.
I'm wondering though.
I remember part of the reason apple went with motorla G4's was for the altivec engine. Back when Motorala and IBM split they forked the powerpc chip (the then G3), when this happened the definition for the chips changed slightly.
Motorola's definition of the G4 was a faster chip with the altivec engine. This is what allows for superfast processing during high floating point calculations (similar to MMX only phatter). This was also the part Apple was talking about when they used to advertise "twice as fast as pentium pc" because during those moments of super-intense number crunching, they were. IBM's definition of the G4 was a chip made with copper, shorter pipelines things like that. How is the switch to an IBM chip going to affect altivec? Since it's motorola technology I think it's safe to assume it won't be on the IBM chip. Will the IBM chip suffer at all during those slowdowns? Or will the extra 32 bit data path, in conjunction with copper, etc... be more than enough to make up the difference?
So how does it compare with prelude and portsentry?
My understanding is that snort is only good at single networks, anything more than that you will want prelude. Any truth to this? ***this was on a prelude irc channel*** What's the real deal slasdot-istas?
sung to the tune of "american pie"
a long long time ago, i can still remember how that apple ][ used to make me smile
i knew that if i had the chance, i'd sit and hack without my pants
and maybe i'd be happy for awhile
then out came 10 and i was happy then
bad news on the doorstep, i couldn't take one more step
I can't remember if i cried when i read 'bout that API
but something touched me deep inside, the day, the OS died
bye bye open API
put my linux over minix
and then linux was mine
them windows boys was drinking coffee and sprite
singing this'll be the day that i die.
this'll be the day that i die.
this'll be the day that i die.
did you write the system of love, do you have faith in Jobs above
if the missing manual tells you so
do you beleive in GPL, can linux save your hard drives soul?
is windows making your drive go slow?
Well I know that you're in love with it, don't want to use that peice of shit
You removed all your disks, beos i sure will miss
i was a lonely teenage hackin buck, with neon case and an os that sucked
but i knew i was out of luck the day the OS died
i started singing bye bye open API
put my linux over minix
and then linux was mine
them windows boys was drinking coffee and sprite
singing this'll be the day that i die.
this'll be the day that i die.
this'll be the day that i die.
for 20 years we've waited for 10 we thought we'd be happy then
cuz this was how an os should be
when bill gates sold that aweful trash with code he borrowed from the macintosh
and a voice came from you and me
while steve jobs was looking down, bill gates stole his thorny crown
te courtroom was adjourned, no verdict was returned
while i read a book on PERL, while listening to the duke of earl
we programmed in the dark, the day the os died
we started singing bye bye open API
put my linux over minix
and then linux was mine
them windows boys was drinking coffee and sprite
singing this'll be the day that i die.
this'll be the day that i die.
this'll be the day that i die.
If someone got a screenshot of the download page, or a list of the mirrors, would you post them please? The site has been /.ed
It's called mescaline...
I'm not sure if this is a joke. Was it maybe the amp that cause the fire to begin with? :-)
Gigabit ethernet
NFS
This would seem to be the easiest setup. and both could have rw access. then just add a simple line to the fstab and the drive would always be there.
damn someone beat me to it.