The ESPN site has two tables, which I'm fairly certain were placed there after the redesign, most probably by programmers and publicists. They're not part of the core layout.
There's a whole new movement out there. It's a big community, and more people are getting into it every day. Sweeping, cocksure generalizations like yours are usually wrong, because of the fact that they're sweeping and cocksure generalizations.
CSS is not a magic bullet but it's also not the nightmarish unsupported w3c bastard child that many people on this thread are making it out to be. Frankly, I think most people are just a bit lazy and don't want to spend the time learning to use it properly.
In the case of any sufficiently large monopoly, the rules *have* to change. Bundling is ok in an industry in which there is competition, but whenever Microsoft bundles something into the OS, they usually kill an already established industry (Netscape, Real, etc.). This is not good for the economy, and ultimately it also sucks for the customers, since sistematic elimination of competition leads to stagnation of technology (how many years have we had to put up with no updates to the piece of crap browser that is IE 6?).
So yes, it seems very simple and very nice and on first impression they should let them conduct business as usual, but when you stop to think about it, they're killing companies, stealing technology and then sitting on their ass doing nothing until they have to do it all over again (which is why they fear Open Source, because it's not susceptible to this kind of attack).
Yeah... At first I thought it was something like the newsmap, with different sizes for frequency of visits (i.e., Fark and Slashdot would show up huge in mine). That might be a great way to represent this kind of information. As it it, I don't see it as being a killer app.
Read this article for an analysis of the algorithms for generating "Random" numbers for TCP packet sequencing. It's a really interesting read, and knowing this makes it highly feasible to spoof an IP if you know what the machine on the other side of the line is running (for some systems).
The behaviors that are not redundant (and could be implemented with standards compliant Javacript code) are downright dangerous and may expose more information than you'd like to malicious websites. There have been numerous exploits of this kind of stuff in the past.
It was meant to be funny (and was, actually). The 3.85% is meant to be the frequency of the letter "A" in English, although I don't know where the poster got that info. The actual frequency seems to be closer to 8%
I fail to see the irony. I didn't get this emailed to me, or had to look at it. Instead, I *requested* to see the/. front page, thereby seeing all these links. It's not at all like spamming.
DHTML is based on the interaction of Javascript with (x)html. It is not an invention of Microsoft, and most definitely, it's not exclusive to IE. Most other browsers have better support for the key parts of DHTML behavior (such as the Document Object Model).
Mozilla has much better support for this kind of thing, and more things can be done with it (and more consistently). XBL or XUL have nothing to do with this.
Not even a good troll. Don't know why it got modded up. The IE7 thing is based on DHTML. That is a combination of Javascript (ECMAscript), (x)html and css. The css3 spec is not what is at stake here. It's CSS2. IE's support for Javascript, and particularly the DOM (Document Object Model) is severely lacking in comparison to other, more standards compliant browsers, and your whole post didn't make sense at all.
And *most of the stuff out there* has better DOM support, *even* browsers that were out before IE5.5/6
I used to play LustyMud (text based), and there was a section with Godzilla in it. The monster wasn't inherently aggresive, but if you attacked it it would rain down hell on you. It usually took only one or two hits to get you under your "wimpy treshold" and send you automatically running away. The catch? - There was a single room with only one entrance to the West of Godzilla. Want to guess what was the default first direction tried by the Wimpy mode? Yes. West. And Godzilla *remembered* you, so if you tried to get past it again it attacked on sight. Attacking Godzilla was usually followed by a long time sitting down doing nothing, waiting for your hp count to get high enough as to make it past the monster on the way back.
That's hogwash. Both the Nova reference and the argument. The Aibo is called a dog (or similar) everywhere, and that hasn't affected its sales.
And, as another poster pointed out, the Nova thing is an urban legend (I'm Mexican). Perhaps the dismal sales of the car had more to do with the fact that it was a piece of shit?
Try RGB. That's how html color works. Three Hex values, from 0 to 256, representing Red, Green, Blue. So #FF00FF is Red(256) Green (0) Blue (256). Photoshop can easily give you these for any color.
I'm amused at all the uninformed responses. I work at IBM, and we do have a Lotus Notes Version for Linux (we call it NUL -- Notes Under Linux). It uses the Wine libraries but is compressed into a single installable file. It runs very well. Most bugs have gone away. It's still not up to date with Lotus 6, but the future looks promising.
Standard disclaimer: The above represent my views and not those of my employer in any way whatsoever yadda yadda yadda.
As long as you can distinguish one thing or state from another (or even existence from non-existence) you can come up with math.
Or astrology. Or Tarot. Or any pseudo-science with its own set of made up rules. Difference being that they all fall apart when you try to get predictable, provable results in the real world with them. Math holds up.
For an alien mind, our logic system might simply not make any sense, but they could still be called intelligent.
So, if you took *one* object in that alien homeplanet, and place it next to *another* object, you'd have a quantity of objects different than two? Because that seems to be what you're arguing.
Notice that I could care less how many objects that alien *thinks* there are. Parting from a common set of rules, you should get the same result. Doesn't matter if said alien calls the two objects "dog" or whatever.
That kind of drives home the point that digital watches may be better. Unless used for chronometer stuff, what you need of a watch is one reading of exact time, not observation of rate of change (changes too slowly). In this respect, analog does not provide anything extra.
Both of those use the same markup. One is ~800px wide, the other 320px wide. This is a demo I'm preparing for a tutorial on some CSS techniques. The title images (Rants & Articles, News, and Shout) are actually the same, just cropped and repositioned with CSS. The change in layout is rather dramatic, particularly where the floating frames are concerned. This is all standard, cross-browser compliant CSS. I didn't add extraneous divs to achieve the second layout, just structured my document correctly from the start.
There are still a few quirks (namely, the empty space at the bottom) which is why I haven't published this on the site yet.
Ok. Those things can't be done with pure CSS. You have a point there. They can be done with a combination of javascript/CSS, though (that last one would require server side technology), but they're actually kind of pointless.
What you're describing is stuff that graphic designers love and wish web pages could do. It's also stuff that doesn't work for the internet. You can't assume that everyone uses the same software/hardware, or that everyone has X font. The spec states that people should be able to customize these things, too.
What's more: even if you can do all that stuff, are you really doing it to arbitrary text? don't you need to specify which image you want to use for which character in what part of the document? If you need a header, and the rest of the content is normal text, are you seriously only counting letters until you get to the part where you want to change formatting?
You suggested you can do all this with complete separation of layout and content, but the documentation indicates that LaTeX has a bunch of inline commands and identifiers. Is that not true? And if you're really putting this all together from outside the document (which would be just arbitrary text) doesn't that defeat the purpose originally stated, since you need to know the text intimately to make a competent layout? We're not just talking columns and alignment here. We're talking a full-fledged web site layout.
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Try and find a big commercial web site that doesn't use tables for their layout. You won't find one.
ESPN
The ESPN site has two tables, which I'm fairly certain were placed there after the redesign, most probably by programmers and publicists. They're not part of the core layout.
There's a whole new movement out there. It's a big community, and more people are getting into it every day. Sweeping, cocksure generalizations like yours are usually wrong, because of the fact that they're sweeping and cocksure generalizations.
CSS is not a magic bullet but it's also not the nightmarish unsupported w3c bastard child that many people on this thread are making it out to be. Frankly, I think most people are just a bit lazy and don't want to spend the time learning to use it properly.
Found this in Firefox's config files. Check it out (and read the full URI):
There is no data. There is only XUL
Warning In the past, I've had versions of Explorer crash on me when looking at that page, so you may want to try it only in non-IE browsers (YMMV).
In the case of any sufficiently large monopoly, the rules *have* to change. Bundling is ok in an industry in which there is competition, but whenever Microsoft bundles something into the OS, they usually kill an already established industry (Netscape, Real, etc.). This is not good for the economy, and ultimately it also sucks for the customers, since sistematic elimination of competition leads to stagnation of technology (how many years have we had to put up with no updates to the piece of crap browser that is IE 6?).
So yes, it seems very simple and very nice and on first impression they should let them conduct business as usual, but when you stop to think about it, they're killing companies, stealing technology and then sitting on their ass doing nothing until they have to do it all over again (which is why they fear Open Source, because it's not susceptible to this kind of attack).
Well, the knocks do come from the same IP, so this thing just needs to be able to see that to filter different knock sequences, I guess.
Yeah... At first I thought it was something like the newsmap, with different sizes for frequency of visits (i.e., Fark and Slashdot would show up huge in mine). That might be a great way to represent this kind of information. As it it, I don't see it as being a killer app.
The parent poster is right.
Read this article for an analysis of the algorithms for generating "Random" numbers for TCP packet sequencing. It's a really interesting read, and knowing this makes it highly feasible to spoof an IP if you know what the machine on the other side of the line is running (for some systems).
HAH! you're right! Thanks.
It's a bloody security liability, is what it is.
The behaviors that are not redundant (and could be implemented with standards compliant Javacript code) are downright dangerous and may expose more information than you'd like to malicious websites. There have been numerous exploits of this kind of stuff in the past.
It was meant to be funny (and was, actually). The 3.85% is meant to be the frequency of the letter "A" in English, although I don't know where the poster got that info. The actual frequency seems to be closer to 8%
I fail to see the irony. I didn't get this emailed to me, or had to look at it. Instead, I *requested* to see the /. front page, thereby seeing all these links. It's not at all like spamming.
DHTML is based on the interaction of Javascript with (x)html. It is not an invention of Microsoft, and most definitely, it's not exclusive to IE. Most other browsers have better support for the key parts of DHTML behavior (such as the Document Object Model).
Mozilla has much better support for this kind of thing, and more things can be done with it (and more consistently). XBL or XUL have nothing to do with this.
Not even a good troll. Don't know why it got modded up. The IE7 thing is based on DHTML. That is a combination of Javascript (ECMAscript), (x)html and css. The css3 spec is not what is at stake here. It's CSS2. IE's support for Javascript, and particularly the DOM (Document Object Model) is severely lacking in comparison to other, more standards compliant browsers, and your whole post didn't make sense at all.
And *most of the stuff out there* has better DOM support, *even* browsers that were out before IE5.5/6
I used to play LustyMud (text based), and there was a section with Godzilla in it. The monster wasn't inherently aggresive, but if you attacked it it would rain down hell on you. It usually took only one or two hits to get you under your "wimpy treshold" and send you automatically running away. The catch? - There was a single room with only one entrance to the West of Godzilla. Want to guess what was the default first direction tried by the Wimpy mode? Yes. West. And Godzilla *remembered* you, so if you tried to get past it again it attacked on sight. Attacking Godzilla was usually followed by a long time sitting down doing nothing, waiting for your hp count to get high enough as to make it past the monster on the way back.
Ahh... the memories.
Maybe. It is nominated for a Bloggie (Best community weblog category).
That's hogwash. Both the Nova reference and the argument. The Aibo is called a dog (or similar) everywhere, and that hasn't affected its sales.
And, as another poster pointed out, the Nova thing is an urban legend (I'm Mexican). Perhaps the dismal sales of the car had more to do with the fact that it was a piece of shit?
Try RGB. That's how html color works. Three Hex values, from 0 to 256, representing Red, Green, Blue. So #FF00FF is Red(256) Green (0) Blue (256). Photoshop can easily give you these for any color.
Regarding color: Try a little Color Theory and when you want to make a color scheme that works, go to the Color scheme generator.
Apart from that, anything on the "Resources" section of my links page will help you out.
I'm amused at all the uninformed responses. I work at IBM, and we do have a Lotus Notes Version for Linux (we call it NUL -- Notes Under Linux). It uses the Wine libraries but is compressed into a single installable file. It runs very well. Most bugs have gone away. It's still not up to date with Lotus 6, but the future looks promising.
Standard disclaimer: The above represent my views and not those of my employer in any way whatsoever yadda yadda yadda.
As long as you can distinguish one thing or state from another (or even existence from non-existence) you can come up with math.
Or astrology. Or Tarot. Or any pseudo-science with its own set of made up rules. Difference being that they all fall apart when you try to get predictable, provable results in the real world with them. Math holds up.
For an alien mind, our logic system might simply not make any sense, but they could still be called intelligent.
So, if you took *one* object in that alien homeplanet, and place it next to *another* object, you'd have a quantity of objects different than two? Because that seems to be what you're arguing.
Notice that I could care less how many objects that alien *thinks* there are. Parting from a common set of rules, you should get the same result. Doesn't matter if said alien calls the two objects "dog" or whatever.
That kind of drives home the point that digital watches may be better. Unless used for chronometer stuff, what you need of a watch is one reading of exact time, not observation of rate of change (changes too slowly). In this respect, analog does not provide anything extra.
A trip to Cancum doesn't sound bad at all... interesting possibilities there.
Nice post title =)
Ok. I'm sorry I jumped into this with an attitude. You seem to have thought this out well.
Although your statements about using columns in particular are true for CSS, I think you're selling the standard short. Check this out:
This is my site
This is the exact same markup, when passed through a different stylesheet
Both of those use the same markup. One is ~800px wide, the other 320px wide. This is a demo I'm preparing for a tutorial on some CSS techniques. The title images (Rants & Articles, News, and Shout) are actually the same, just cropped and repositioned with CSS. The change in layout is rather dramatic, particularly where the floating frames are concerned. This is all standard, cross-browser compliant CSS. I didn't add extraneous divs to achieve the second layout, just structured my document correctly from the start.
There are still a few quirks (namely, the empty space at the bottom) which is why I haven't published this on the site yet.
Ok. Those things can't be done with pure CSS. You have a point there. They can be done with a combination of javascript/CSS, though (that last one would require server side technology), but they're actually kind of pointless.
What you're describing is stuff that graphic designers love and wish web pages could do. It's also stuff that doesn't work for the internet. You can't assume that everyone uses the same software/hardware, or that everyone has X font. The spec states that people should be able to customize these things, too.
What's more: even if you can do all that stuff, are you really doing it to arbitrary text? don't you need to specify which image you want to use for which character in what part of the document? If you need a header, and the rest of the content is normal text, are you seriously only counting letters until you get to the part where you want to change formatting?
You suggested you can do all this with complete separation of layout and content, but the documentation indicates that LaTeX has a bunch of inline commands and identifiers. Is that not true? And if you're really putting this all together from outside the document (which would be just arbitrary text) doesn't that defeat the purpose originally stated, since you need to know the text intimately to make a competent layout? We're not just talking columns and alignment here. We're talking a full-fledged web site layout.