I think I can safely say I speak for the entire slashdot community when I say "Lutz seems to have lots of fingers in lots of open source pies" and "Guido van Rossum is extremely ugly" and "Python is a language for hermaphrodites" and several other things that I really enjoy saying.,
I agree wholeheartedly with the argument put forth in the article. But I think there are many more "device classes", for want of a better word, which may have come about much sooner if it were not for heavy-handed regulation
For example, public key encryption was first discovered by GCHQ many years before it was independantly discovered by RSA.
Also of note is that the class of device which "Patent Information: 1970 Official Gaz. (U.S. Patent Office) 11 Aug. tm 65 Van Brode Milling Co., Inc., Clinton, Mass... Spork for Combination Plastic Spoon, Fork and Knife. "
If this had not been witheld from the public domain by the government-imposed patent system, sp0rk5 would be in wide use today and the world would be a far better place for it.
I think I can safely say that I speak for all slashdot readers when I say that eyeyam would benefit greatly from the advantages offered by a device combining features of both a spoon and a fork.
IBM can afford to throw money on a hopeful cause. Their not like linux companies. They have a stable business that isn't likely to go down the tube anytime soon.
I think you may have just suffered a sense of humour failure.
You can if you can request the md5sum of a segment of the file where you get to specify the offset and length of the chunk you want md5summed. It's exactly like he said: you request a single byte at a time and look up the result each time in your hash. Your hash only has 256 elements. Read up on common sense and ideucy avoidance for more information.
What, particularly, makes you consider them economically
liberal? They've always seemed like staunch defenders of free-market operation to me.
I hope my reformatting of your comment helps you understand;-) Free and liberal have very similar meanings. Free market economics is based upon an ideology that the government should not impede our freedoms to enter into contracts with each other and trade freely with each other.
The "free" in free market means libre (as opposed to gratis).
Prerecorded cassettes fell to 76 million shipped last year vs. 123 million in 1999, the industry says.
"We are in need of a new format", says BMG's Sami Valkonen.
Nothing along the lines of "consumers want a new format". Just "we're not getting enough cash from an obsolete format, and we're so incredibly arrogant that we think we can force it down eveyone's throats"
Actually, these things would sound fantastic if it weren't for all the copy protection malarky. I mean, it's going to be a number of years before 500MB of flash memory costs $5 - $12. Going by current trends, it will be over a decade. These tiny media will provide a very nice stopgap, thank you very much (just as soon as they are uncrippled / (cr | h)acked / whatever)
As for Taco's comment about being "an intermediate step before we simply stream all audio from the net", err, did you realise that the primary market for these media is going to be portable devices? Apart from the expense of the bandwidth to stream mp3 over UMTS (when it finally arrives) you're going to need a hell of a battery pack to give you 12 hours solid listening mate.
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Dear garrettl,
I love you. I just apt-got it and had a play. It seems pretty functional.
Thanks a *lot* for the info. You wouldn't believe how much time I've spent looking for xmove.
However, it's still not everything I want. I want to be able to hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace on the X server and have the X client survive (the equivalent is possible with vnc). Or I want my modem to disconnect and for me to be able to dial up again and resume the session. But this is definitely a very good start and will be immediately useful.
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Gosh. What a coincidence (see my comment just three minutes before yours). I'm glad others also think this is important. Do you know of anyone who is trying to make this feature a reality, no matter how preliminary their project?
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When I first saw this article, my first thought was that The Thing I Had Been Waiting For had arrived. I thought that we were going to get resumable X sessions.
Resumable X sessions would absolutely rock. There is always a lot of setting up to do when one starts an X session - I don't care how much effort you put into.xinitrc or how intelligent your desktop environment's session management is - there's always lengthy initialisation for my X sessions. Resumable X sessions, combined with a low bandwidth X proxy, would allow me to:
Use my same desktop from anywhere in the house (at the moment that's three machines with decent displays)
Access my home's desktop from the computer laboratory in town during the day time.
Display applications running on various shell accounts across the internet at home and not have to start over when my DHCP IP address changes.
At the moment I can (and do) use VNC for (1) because I have a fast home LAN. But even tight VNC is too much of a bandwidth hog for (2) or (3).
Hell, if resumable X displays existed I would probably rent a colocated box on the net's backbone, then just use thin clients (read: sleek X servers) to access my desktop from wherever I happened to be in the world.
Does anyone have any thoughts on the architecture of the X 'proxy' that needs to be invented? It would have to be a full-fledged X server, and would have to maintain state for any clients which were displayed on it. It would also have to be an X client, capable of displaying itself on a remote computer, but capable of "detaching" from the display and "re-attaching" to another one (that's why it needs to maintain all the state of any clients which are displaying on it.. )
Colour depths would be a nightmare, as they always are with X.
Perhaps extending VNC so that "X protocol" is one of the encoding options for communication between VNC server and VNC viewer would be a place to start (though I'm completely ignorant of how easy it would be to graft stuff like this on to VNC).
I'd be interested to hear what others have to think on the matter.
Err.. whoops. The link was in the original article.
Parent should possibly be marked "redundant".
This article is yet another reason I'm glad I don't live in mainland Europe. The population there just passively takes shit like this lying down, like it has from various governments for a couple of centuries. When will the mainland Europeans realise that you *are* allowed to assert yourself and limit the powers of your government. France and Germany are now in a single currency and there was never even a referendum on the matter. Can you imagine the same thing happening in the UK or the States?
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For example, public key encryption was first discovered by GCHQ many years before it was independantly discovered by RSA.
Also of note is that the class of device which "Patent Information: 1970 Official Gaz. (U.S. Patent Office) 11 Aug. tm 65 Van Brode Milling Co., Inc., Clinton, Mass... Spork for Combination Plastic Spoon, Fork and Knife. "
If this had not been witheld from the public domain by the government-imposed patent system, sp0rk5 would be in wide use today and the world would be a far better place for it.
I think I can safely say that I speak for all slashdot readers when I say that eyeyam would benefit greatly from the advantages offered by a device combining features of both a spoon and a fork.
I think you're a twat
I think you may have just suffered a sense of humour failure.
You can if you can request the md5sum of a segment of the file where you get to specify the offset and length of the chunk you want md5summed. It's exactly like he said: you request a single byte at a time and look up the result each time in your hash. Your hash only has 256 elements. Read up on common sense and ideucy avoidance for more information.
I hope my reformatting of your comment helps you understand ;-) Free and liberal have very similar meanings. Free market economics is based upon an ideology that the government should not impede our freedoms to enter into contracts with each other and trade freely with each other.
The "free" in free market means libre (as opposed to gratis).
When it is liberal economically, it looks right wing. But when it is liberal socially it looks left wing.
They are just generally very enthusiastic liberals, much in coincidence with my own views.
twat. I'm talking about flash
Thanks for the info, but it is remote frame buffer based. I want something which talks X all the way.
Nothing along the lines of "consumers want a new format". Just "we're not getting enough cash from an obsolete format, and we're so incredibly arrogant that we think we can force it down eveyone's throats"
Actually, these things would sound fantastic if it weren't for all the copy protection malarky. I mean, it's going to be a number of years before 500MB of flash memory costs $5 - $12. Going by current trends, it will be over a decade. These tiny media will provide a very nice stopgap, thank you very much (just as soon as they are uncrippled / (cr | h)acked / whatever)
As for Taco's comment about being "an intermediate step before we simply stream all audio from the net", err, did you realise that the primary market for these media is going to be portable devices? Apart from the expense of the bandwidth to stream mp3 over UMTS (when it finally arrives) you're going to need a hell of a battery pack to give you 12 hours solid listening mate.
I love you. I just apt-got it and had a play. It seems pretty functional.
Thanks a *lot* for the info. You wouldn't believe how much time I've spent looking for xmove.
However, it's still not everything I want. I want to be able to hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace on the X server and have the X client survive (the equivalent is possible with vnc). Or I want my modem to disconnect and for me to be able to dial up again and resume the session. But this is definitely a very good start and will be immediately useful.
Gosh. What a coincidence (see my comment just three minutes before yours). I'm glad others also think this is important. Do you know of anyone who is trying to make this feature a reality, no matter how preliminary their project?
Resumable X sessions would absolutely rock. There is always a lot of setting up to do when one starts an X session - I don't care how much effort you put into .xinitrc or how intelligent your desktop environment's session management is - there's always lengthy initialisation for my X sessions. Resumable X sessions, combined with a low bandwidth X proxy, would allow me to:
At the moment I can (and do) use VNC for (1) because I have a fast home LAN. But even tight VNC is too much of a bandwidth hog for (2) or (3).
Hell, if resumable X displays existed I would probably rent a colocated box on the net's backbone, then just use thin clients (read: sleek X servers) to access my desktop from wherever I happened to be in the world.
Does anyone have any thoughts on the architecture of the X 'proxy' that needs to be invented? It would have to be a full-fledged X server, and would have to maintain state for any clients which were displayed on it. It would also have to be an X client, capable of displaying itself on a remote computer, but capable of "detaching" from the display and "re-attaching" to another one (that's why it needs to maintain all the state of any clients which are displaying on it.. )
Colour depths would be a nightmare, as they always are with X.
Perhaps extending VNC so that "X protocol" is one of the encoding options for communication between VNC server and VNC viewer would be a place to start (though I'm completely ignorant of how easy it would be to graft stuff like this on to VNC).
I'd be interested to hear what others have to think on the matter.
Cygwin It's a POSIX layer for win32. Bash, ksh, and so on have been ported to it, as have many many unix tools..
Parent should possibly be marked "redundant".
This article is yet another reason I'm glad I don't live in mainland Europe. The population there just passively takes shit like this lying down, like it has from various governments for a couple of centuries. When will the mainland Europeans realise that you *are* allowed to assert yourself and limit the powers of your government. France and Germany are now in a single currency and there was never even a referendum on the matter. Can you imagine the same thing happening in the UK or the States?