Ready any day's log for congress anytime in the last 4 years and you'll see exactly that.
I can see you are simply too lazy to even try to demonstrate your point. So, mine still stands.
Kind of fits with my general perception of glibertarians as the most intellectually lazy fuckoffs on the planet. You can't even type a few words into a search bar.
If you REALLY believe the democrats are different, you are REALLY oblivious to the world around you.
Until very recenty I followed political events quite closely. I know how members of both parties behave. I can and will provide rebuttals, but since you are just flat too fucking lazy to start somewhere in the fact-based world, I am not going to bother. My point stands. You're too LAZY to argue your own, so piss up a rope.
He is an ignorant blowhard who thinks his medical degree makes him an expert on economics. Any problem that is too complicated for Ruin Paul to understand, he simply proposes destroying all affected institutions.
This isn't statesmanship. It's demagoguery. But you as many Glibertarian fanbois are so entranced by the simplicity of Ruin Paul's message that you apparently fail to actually think any of his ideas through to their conclusions.
Which are disastrous. Ruin Paul's political philosophy seems to be that since government has been unable to completely solve every problem perfectly, we should just stop using it. Of course, he forgets that all of these solutions, including the government itself, came into being because the original problems were real and in need of a solution that the so-called "free market" had failed to provide.
As it will fail to solve this problem as well. Doing nothing about a problem is not a solution.
I can tell you what happens to people who do nothing while living in some lotus-dream that it's all going to fix itself -- they end up HOMELESS, HOPELESS, JOBLESS, and DEAD. Your philosophy proposes treating all of our urgent social needs like a drug addict treats his personal needs -- by ignoring them.
Unfortunately, after we've paid the price by doing it your stupid way, YOU will not be around to help us clean up the mess. I'm pretty sure of that one. Lazy is as lazy does. And your philosophy is in a nutshell, LAZY. I have zero respect for it.
How much of that is because last-mile telecommunications providers are unwilling to serve homes near farms?
Small town America, farm America, is dying because the farms are being bought up by big Agribusiness firms, and because local towns are being Walmartized into economic self-immolation. The big farms buy up the little farms, and the Wal-Mart finishes off the in-town businesses by replacing all of them for much "cheaper" prices, and also by dint of their mosopony (supply monopoly) which forces suppliers to sell at lower prices to them.
I live in rural Indiana. I've seen this pattern over and over again.
Besides, I don't think putting America to work back on the farm is the solution to our economic troubles. Again, I sense a complete lack of effort to solving our probelms and instead, in true Glibertarian knee-jerk dumb-ass fashion, we are just throwing away huge institutions that don't work because we are too dumb to figure out how to fix them.
This is the essence of Ruin Paul's effortlessly moronic philosophy. If it don't work, burn it down! Who has time to understand these things???
Why is it that people let such an unimaginative chowder-head think for them?
I have read that college tuition tracks almost perfectly with student loan amounts. As more money becomes available for student loans, college tuition increases.
You must not have managed to get a student loan yourself. Because if you had, and you'd gone to college, you would know that if you make a statement like this, any reasonable person would expect you to like, you know, QUOTE YOUR FUCKING SOURCE!!!
Otherwise, you read that on the back of the bathroom door while you were blowing Ron Paul as far as we know.
Of course, since you are too lazy to provide your source, or even bother typing a few key words into Google, as far as you're concerned you've got the solution to the problem. Jesus did it, the bible said it, and that settles it! As one infamously arrogant bumper-sticker proclaims.
In truth, you are arguing from a set of well-rehearsed glibertarian shibboleths, and you've got nothing to talk about. Just airhead principles.
If students are generally capable of paying $X out of pocket and the government kicks in $Y then the price of tuition will approach $X+$Y over time. That's how pretty much everything works... from government subsidized housing, tuition, etc.
Yes, because everything can be reduced to an algabraic equation, and there are no such things as laws or regulations.
I mean, it's funny how many people whose expertise is math think that makes them unchallengable experts on economic issues like this. Or human behavior. Or the law.
We have been using this piece of lazy, ARROGANT, and fucking stupid logic to let unaccountable crooks, theives, and frauds run wild with our economy for decades now, and where has it gotten us?
Higher cost of living/education/energy, lower wages/less job opportunity/less upward mobility.
This kind of logic has FAILED US EVERY FUCKING TIME IT HAS BEEN USED.
It's about time someone told you people that LAZY, DUMB-ASS, knee-jerk fuck-off thinking like yours IS NOT SOLVING PROBLEMS, BONEHEAD.
Why don't you trouble your worthless, lazy, ignorant ass to understand a problem before you just shoot off your jerking knee the "let the market decide DERP!" stupidity that you've been programmed to emit every time a complicated problem crosses your nose?
Or better yet, SHUT YOUR IGNORANT MOUTH when you don't understand a problem, and let people who are smarter and harder-working than you actually DO SOMETHING about solving a problem.
JACK-OFF thinking like yours has NOT. Go watch your TV. You are NOT INTELLECTUALLY CAPABLE of solving this problem. So SHADDAP already.
However this does not demonstrate that government subsidies for student loans/pell grants inflate Stanford's pricing, nor that government is more efficient at providing a university education
You're denying solid-gold Glibertarian shibboleths by interposing all of those inconvenient pesky facts, and real world things!
The argument is that student loans are *why* universities are unaffordable. Besides
It's a lazy-ass argument. There are plenty of things that could be done, but Ron Paul's solution to the high cost of college is to simply cut off anyone who isn't already rich.
See, his education got paid for back in the 1950's. Probably by his parents. So, he's got his. Fuck the rest of us.
In the absence of a student loan program at the time, I can only imagine that his parents were actually wealthy enough to send him to school.
So, of course he has no idea (or real damn concern) that there are plenty of us who can't afford to send our kids to school to have a doctor's education pasted onto them.
Ron Paul is a perfect example of one of these motherfuckers who was born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a triple.
Again, fuck him and his fans in the face. We do not need this world run by misanthropes and greed-heads.
You are disturbing the Glibertarian Om. Only in a fact-free plane of existence where no real-world examples of their horribly misanthropic ideas can be found will Glibertarianism succeed.
You're FUCKING UP HIS GROOOVE! Finland isn't a real country anyway! Quiet!
Is that fixing this problem is not that difficult. Require accountability. When Reagan turned the student-loan program over to sharks, he failed to encourage any kind of accountability. Instead, in true dumb-shit glibertarian fashion, he simply assumed that the magic of the market would make lenders accountable. OR, alternatively, he didn't give a shit about the outcomes and simply wanted to funnel business to a special interest/campaign contributor.
EITHER WAY, Ron Paul's solution to jacking up our student loan program by giving parts of it away to unaccountable middlemen is to simply throw the program out wholesale, and to hell with the consequences to education.
I fucking hate dumb-ass right-tards and glibertarians who use complex problems as an excuse to shit down the necks of the less-fortunate in this society. IN REALITY if we simply demanded accountability from the currently-non-accountable parties in this scheme, with actual penalties and teeth in them for chicanery, I bet we could fix the student loan program without simply abandoning an entire generation to near-illiteracy and unemployability on the world job market.
But again, Ron Paul and Glibertarian/Republican fuckfaces don't care about that. They just want MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE.
Again, Fuck Ron Paul and all his fans right in the face.
(Jerks Knee at Appropriate Libertarian Shibboleth) Subsidies inflate pricing. (Yep! Yep! I don't actually know fuck-all about the topic, but in glibertarian fantasy-land, I only have to examine an issue one centimeter deep to come up with a privatized solution to a complicated problem) I agree. (Honk! Honk! Derp! Derp!)
You have responded with the appropriate glibertarian dogma. You can now shut up.
Ron Paul doesn't care about results. He doesn't care about outcomes. He just cares about maintaining a phony set of badly-articulated and poorly-thought out principles.
In reality, ending the federal student loan program will simply spur the creation of dozens of loan-shark artists who will do what they were already doing after Reagan let them into the tent -- milk helpless students and drive up the cost of EVERYTHING surrounding them. When in reality college education should be nationally funded and nationally regulated, so that we can all participate.
Ron Paul's program is geared towards creating a super-wealthy elite and keeping the rest of us desperately impoverished and powerless.
FUCK HIM RIGHT IN THE FACE with his FUCKING STUPID BACKWARDS-ASS IDEAS.
Educational institutions will reduce their costs to keep students coming back.
In reality, Ron Paul doesn't KNOW this will happen, but he doesn't give a fuck either. Just as long as he gets the federal government out of another private industry.
Context aware voting, open 24/7 continuous to distribute the resources and fluidly change policy is what we should've had since a decade ago.
Our democracy was explicitly designed so that in theory it could not be run away with by zealous whackaloons. The only experience the Founders had in this regard was history, the disastrous self-destructive "direct democracy" you mention earlier as having been invented two fucking thousand years ago. Maybe you skimmed that section of history -- the original Greek Democracy experiment was considered a catastrophe because the mob ran away with the government.
This was to be avoided in our system by giving conservative tendencies greater weight than progressive ones. Thus the Senate which originally wasn't even meant to be elected by the People, and whose sole purpose is to slow-foot the ideas the hotheads in the House come up with.
Although at the time of the ratification of the Constitution the true horrors of the French Revolution were still in the future, the Founders also had the experience of the weak central government established by the Articles of Confederation to guide it.
Recently, zealous whackaloons came up with this idea that they'd be extra-ultra-super conservative, and use all of the built-in tendencies towards PREVENTING change as a way to lock in their ideology.
At any rate, one must plan and design a government very carefully. Just shouting a bunch of ill-concieved libertarian principles into the air is not going to cut it.
Don't ever look at pay rates for unionized workers
Why, because there's something wrong with negotiating a decent wage?
Or because unionized workers are less than human scum who don't even deserve minimum wage?
I've never understood the jealous hostility towards unions. As their fortunes have waned, so have the rest of ours. And we've done it to ourselves, by following the gibbering right-wing stupidity of demonizing people who work hard for a living, and worshipping theives and phonies who fuck off and steal other people's efforts for a living.
I for one am convinced by the complete lack of relevant content in your rebuttal. You seem to have zeroed in on my typography and punctuation as the primary means of dismissing my simple fucking request for a document anywhere backing up any one of rudycodez' ignorant right-wing propagandistic assertions. You've stated nothing. You've proven nothing.
Instead, all I have learned is that dumb-ass right-wing science deniers will gather in flocks to jeer at the typography of their critics.
In the past 15 years, the "climatologists" and their benefactors have responded to each weather event by dredging up a tiny subset of their models and saying "we predicted this!".
Please produce links to the claims you are making,
This is religion, this is hysteria.
Religion is claiming something is so in spite of zero factual evidence in support of it. Climate science is WELL-SUPPORTED by the facts, WELL-ACCPETED by all credibile practitioners of the science, and OVERWHELMINGLY backed up by the evidence.
YOU, on the other hand, have two things going for you. Jack, and shit. And jack left town.
PRODUCE ONE FUCKING LINK. Or please, for the sake of all sanity, shut your ignorant fucking mouth.
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I can see you are simply too lazy to even try to demonstrate your point. So, mine still stands.
Kind of fits with my general perception of glibertarians as the most intellectually lazy fuckoffs on the planet. You can't even type a few words into a search bar.
Until very recenty I followed political events quite closely. I know how members of both parties behave. I can and will provide rebuttals, but since you are just flat too fucking lazy to start somewhere in the fact-based world, I am not going to bother. My point stands. You're too LAZY to argue your own, so piss up a rope.
He is an ignorant blowhard who thinks his medical degree makes him an expert on economics. Any problem that is too complicated for Ruin Paul to understand, he simply proposes destroying all affected institutions.
This isn't statesmanship. It's demagoguery. But you as many Glibertarian fanbois are so entranced by the simplicity of Ruin Paul's message that you apparently fail to actually think any of his ideas through to their conclusions.
Which are disastrous. Ruin Paul's political philosophy seems to be that since government has been unable to completely solve every problem perfectly, we should just stop using it. Of course, he forgets that all of these solutions, including the government itself, came into being because the original problems were real and in need of a solution that the so-called "free market" had failed to provide.
As it will fail to solve this problem as well. Doing nothing about a problem is not a solution.
I can tell you what happens to people who do nothing while living in some lotus-dream that it's all going to fix itself -- they end up HOMELESS, HOPELESS, JOBLESS, and DEAD. Your philosophy proposes treating all of our urgent social needs like a drug addict treats his personal needs -- by ignoring them.
Unfortunately, after we've paid the price by doing it your stupid way, YOU will not be around to help us clean up the mess. I'm pretty sure of that one. Lazy is as lazy does. And your philosophy is in a nutshell, LAZY. I have zero respect for it.
Small town America, farm America, is dying because the farms are being bought up by big Agribusiness firms, and because local towns are being Walmartized into economic self-immolation. The big farms buy up the little farms, and the Wal-Mart finishes off the in-town businesses by replacing all of them for much "cheaper" prices, and also by dint of their mosopony (supply monopoly) which forces suppliers to sell at lower prices to them.
I live in rural Indiana. I've seen this pattern over and over again.
Besides, I don't think putting America to work back on the farm is the solution to our economic troubles. Again, I sense a complete lack of effort to solving our probelms and instead, in true Glibertarian knee-jerk dumb-ass fashion, we are just throwing away huge institutions that don't work because we are too dumb to figure out how to fix them.
This is the essence of Ruin Paul's effortlessly moronic philosophy. If it don't work, burn it down! Who has time to understand these things???
Why is it that people let such an unimaginative chowder-head think for them?
You must not have managed to get a student loan yourself. Because if you had, and you'd gone to college, you would know that if you make a statement like this, any reasonable person would expect you to like, you know, QUOTE YOUR FUCKING SOURCE!!!
Otherwise, you read that on the back of the bathroom door while you were blowing Ron Paul as far as we know.
Of course, since you are too lazy to provide your source, or even bother typing a few key words into Google, as far as you're concerned you've got the solution to the problem. Jesus did it, the bible said it, and that settles it! As one infamously arrogant bumper-sticker proclaims.
In truth, you are arguing from a set of well-rehearsed glibertarian shibboleths, and you've got nothing to talk about. Just airhead principles.
Yes, because everything can be reduced to an algabraic equation, and there are no such things as laws or regulations.
I mean, it's funny how many people whose expertise is math think that makes them unchallengable experts on economic issues like this. Or human behavior. Or the law.
Yes, because the world is simple and everything is black and white. You can stop thinking now.
Oh, wait, you already did.
Oh, dear you almost had it right. Then you revealed that you also have acquired the False Equivalence Virus.
No, this is not a "both parties" problem. It is a one party problem and it is a right-wing problem.
Provide examples that "democrats" pull this kind of "crapola" too. ANY examples.
We have been using this piece of lazy, ARROGANT, and fucking stupid logic to let unaccountable crooks, theives, and frauds run wild with our economy for decades now, and where has it gotten us?
Higher cost of living/education/energy, lower wages/less job opportunity/less upward mobility.
This kind of logic has FAILED US EVERY FUCKING TIME IT HAS BEEN USED.
It's about time someone told you people that LAZY, DUMB-ASS, knee-jerk fuck-off thinking like yours IS NOT SOLVING PROBLEMS, BONEHEAD.
Why don't you trouble your worthless, lazy, ignorant ass to understand a problem before you just shoot off your jerking knee the "let the market decide DERP!" stupidity that you've been programmed to emit every time a complicated problem crosses your nose?
Or better yet, SHUT YOUR IGNORANT MOUTH when you don't understand a problem, and let people who are smarter and harder-working than you actually DO SOMETHING about solving a problem.
JACK-OFF thinking like yours has NOT. Go watch your TV. You are NOT INTELLECTUALLY CAPABLE of solving this problem. So SHADDAP already.
You're denying solid-gold Glibertarian shibboleths by interposing all of those inconvenient pesky facts, and real world things!
Stop it!
It's a lazy-ass argument. There are plenty of things that could be done, but Ron Paul's solution to the high cost of college is to simply cut off anyone who isn't already rich.
See, his education got paid for back in the 1950's. Probably by his parents. So, he's got his. Fuck the rest of us.
Who paid for his education? Hint: it was a lot cheaper in those days. For example:
This is an example of tuition costs from the 1950's, the era in which Ron Paul would have begun working towards his medical degree.
Mr. Paul would have been required to come up with the equivalent of about $5700 a year in 1950's-era dollars, based on this: http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm
In the absence of a student loan program at the time, I can only imagine that his parents were actually wealthy enough to send him to school.
So, of course he has no idea (or real damn concern) that there are plenty of us who can't afford to send our kids to school to have a doctor's education pasted onto them.
Ron Paul is a perfect example of one of these motherfuckers who was born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a triple.
Again, fuck him and his fans in the face. We do not need this world run by misanthropes and greed-heads.
You are disturbing the Glibertarian Om. Only in a fact-free plane of existence where no real-world examples of their horribly misanthropic ideas can be found will Glibertarianism succeed.
You're FUCKING UP HIS GROOOVE! Finland isn't a real country anyway! Quiet!
Is that fixing this problem is not that difficult. Require accountability. When Reagan turned the student-loan program over to sharks, he failed to encourage any kind of accountability. Instead, in true dumb-shit glibertarian fashion, he simply assumed that the magic of the market would make lenders accountable. OR, alternatively, he didn't give a shit about the outcomes and simply wanted to funnel business to a special interest/campaign contributor.
EITHER WAY, Ron Paul's solution to jacking up our student loan program by giving parts of it away to unaccountable middlemen is to simply throw the program out wholesale, and to hell with the consequences to education.
I fucking hate dumb-ass right-tards and glibertarians who use complex problems as an excuse to shit down the necks of the less-fortunate in this society. IN REALITY if we simply demanded accountability from the currently-non-accountable parties in this scheme, with actual penalties and teeth in them for chicanery, I bet we could fix the student loan program without simply abandoning an entire generation to near-illiteracy and unemployability on the world job market.
But again, Ron Paul and Glibertarian/Republican fuckfaces don't care about that. They just want MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE.
Again, Fuck Ron Paul and all his fans right in the face.
Right out of the gate, you don't understand the problem. Go back in the gate. You are not smart enough for this argument.
(Jerks Knee at Appropriate Libertarian Shibboleth) Subsidies inflate pricing. (Yep! Yep! I don't actually know fuck-all about the topic, but in glibertarian fantasy-land, I only have to examine an issue one centimeter deep to come up with a privatized solution to a complicated problem) I agree. (Honk! Honk! Derp! Derp!)
You have responded with the appropriate glibertarian dogma. You can now shut up.
Ron Paul doesn't care about results. He doesn't care about outcomes. He just cares about maintaining a phony set of badly-articulated and poorly-thought out principles.
In reality, ending the federal student loan program will simply spur the creation of dozens of loan-shark artists who will do what they were already doing after Reagan let them into the tent -- milk helpless students and drive up the cost of EVERYTHING surrounding them. When in reality college education should be nationally funded and nationally regulated, so that we can all participate.
Ron Paul's program is geared towards creating a super-wealthy elite and keeping the rest of us desperately impoverished and powerless.
FUCK HIM RIGHT IN THE FACE with his FUCKING STUPID BACKWARDS-ASS IDEAS.
Educational institutions will reduce their costs to keep students coming back.
In reality, Ron Paul doesn't KNOW this will happen, but he doesn't give a fuck either. Just as long as he gets the federal government out of another private industry.
Our democracy was explicitly designed so that in theory it could not be run away with by zealous whackaloons. The only experience the Founders had in this regard was history, the disastrous self-destructive "direct democracy" you mention earlier as having been invented two fucking thousand years ago. Maybe you skimmed that section of history -- the original Greek Democracy experiment was considered a catastrophe because the mob ran away with the government.
This was to be avoided in our system by giving conservative tendencies greater weight than progressive ones. Thus the Senate which originally wasn't even meant to be elected by the People, and whose sole purpose is to slow-foot the ideas the hotheads in the House come up with.
Although at the time of the ratification of the Constitution the true horrors of the French Revolution were still in the future, the Founders also had the experience of the weak central government established by the Articles of Confederation to guide it.
Recently, zealous whackaloons came up with this idea that they'd be extra-ultra-super conservative, and use all of the built-in tendencies towards PREVENTING change as a way to lock in their ideology.
At any rate, one must plan and design a government very carefully. Just shouting a bunch of ill-concieved libertarian principles into the air is not going to cut it.
He can't make that promise, child. If he were a Congressman, he could.
At least try to focus your fucking outrage on the correct problem.
Why, because there's something wrong with negotiating a decent wage?
Or because unionized workers are less than human scum who don't even deserve minimum wage?
I've never understood the jealous hostility towards unions. As their fortunes have waned, so have the rest of ours. And we've done it to ourselves, by following the gibbering right-wing stupidity of demonizing people who work hard for a living, and worshipping theives and phonies who fuck off and steal other people's efforts for a living.
I for one am convinced by the complete lack of relevant content in your rebuttal. You seem to have zeroed in on my typography and punctuation as the primary means of dismissing my simple fucking request for a document anywhere backing up any one of rudycodez' ignorant right-wing propagandistic assertions. You've stated nothing. You've proven nothing.
Instead, all I have learned is that dumb-ass right-wing science deniers will gather in flocks to jeer at the typography of their critics.
Show your work or shut your mouth.
The Luddites have just about run out of steam on this front.
But hey, I'm sure there's yet another "cell phones cause cars to randomly detonate with nuclear force" study right around the corner.
FIFY
BUT . . . .BUT . . . BUT Obama's a Kenyan Sociomuslimofascist! So there!
/dumbass teabagger retort
Please produce links to the claims you are making,
Religion is claiming something is so in spite of zero factual evidence in support of it. Climate science is WELL-SUPPORTED by the facts, WELL-ACCPETED by all credibile practitioners of the science, and OVERWHELMINGLY backed up by the evidence.
YOU, on the other hand, have two things going for you. Jack, and shit. And jack left town.
PRODUCE ONE FUCKING LINK. Or please, for the sake of all sanity, shut your ignorant fucking mouth.