So how does one start this 'smaller, more advanced engine'? Unless it's got a crank like an old model-T or a kickstart, it's going to have an electric starter driven from a battery. The battery has to be charged somehow and if the car doesn't have a generator/alternator how does it do it?
Ok, that was a bit high...I had some other stuff done this time too ($15 timing belt + $55 other parts + $200 labor + $25 tax). But it's really difficult to get to on my car (little space and lots of stuff in the way, so I let someone else have the hassle. If I have the tools for it and I can get at it, I'll fix it myself. Otherwise, if it's something that takes a professional a few hours to do, I'd rather not waste a weekend trying to do it myself.
I wouldn't say that. A lot of materials science technology is going into diesel engines. Unlike gasoline engines, the hotter they run the better. Because of this, manufacturers like Caterpillar and Cummins are producing engines with ceramic parts, mainly for construction, agriculture, locomotive, and other similar areas. Because they can run hotter than conventional engines, they need no cooling system, burn cleaner, and are much more efficient. My uncle used to work on some of them and said that after running for about a day, the engines would glow at night because they were so hot. Now this is certainly something that probably won't go into a consumer vehicle sometime soon. But diesels that are available in ordinary passenger cars (such as the TDI Jetta) are more than sufficient for the average person.
As far as I'm concerned, Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, EarthFirst, etc. can all go to hell and I wouldn't shed a tear if they were all lost at sea. However, I do think that having clean burning efficient transportation is important. When you are wasting resources (whether it be fuel, paper, metal, etc.) you are wasting money. I'm a cheap bastard at heart, so I always try to recycle and look for efficient items not because I have a 'Save the Earth' complex, but because I don't like spending money. Think about it, once materials separation technology for recycling takes off, cities are going to be making money by strip mining their landfills.
There's not that much of a price difference between gasoline and diesel fuel. In some places in the US, diesel is actually cheaper. Some people don't like diesels because of the noise and they can be a bit sluggish compared to a gasoline engine in the same car (not always the case though). Also diesels can be modified to run on other fuels too. I remember seeing a news blurb on TV about a guy that ran is VW rabbit on vegetable oil he gets from fast food places (his car exhaust smells like french fries). Some cities are experimenting with buses running on soybean oil too.
Hummm, it can't be implemented in cars because they don't have Diesel engines,
Where have you been? My dad's been driving diesel _cars_ (specifically Oldsmobiles) since the early 80's. His Ciera could get about 40mpg and had over 250K miles on it before he got rid of it. Diesels are available from many of the European car makers, much more so than their US counterparts. I would love to get a TDI Jetta. Given their fuel economy and capacity, it's got something like a 800 mile range. I would only have to fill up once to drive to my parent's house!
Then how do you charge the battery up? Plug it into a wall outlet when you get to your destination? I know from experience that while a diesel can run without any electricity, the alternator/battery combination is very important because it takes a lot of electricity to start them because they have such a higher compression ratio than gasoline engines. That's one reason why many diesels have two batteries.
And what exactly happens in a high compression engine when a valve sticks in the open position and the piston comes home? Nothing good!
Which is one reason to make sure that the pistons are dished out where the valves would be. You have the same sort of problem if your timing belt breaks (I have to replace the timing belt in my cars ever 60K miles. The mechanic has said it wouldn't hurt if the belt breaks because the pistons have the necessary indentations, but I don't want to be stranded, so I'll pay the $300 to get them replaced).
Another big thing with diesels and cold weather is keeping the fuel from gelling up. You must remember to put #1 fuel and/or anti-gel additives in or you will be stuck. Diesels also need a lot of cranking power to start compared to gasoline engines, so the batteries had better work well in the cold weather too.
Wouldn't the Bible be what you would want to read first, seeing how it is the original source, then go back and read Book of Morman and compare the two?
It's done all the time. The King James Bible is one of the 'Standard Works' or scriptures of the LDS church. The adult Sunday school classes usually go through each chapter of each book and then start over again...it takes a while =)
Really? Ive heard a peep about it here. etoy, the bush parody sites, etc. Open your eyes.
I don't think that trademark and slander/libel lawsuits against sites equate to censorship. If you want a good example, look what's on the yro page now. There is an article about the ADL is trying to get Yahoo to censor politically incorrect forums and sites. No matter what you feel about the groups in question, it is about as blatant anti-free speech move as you can get. The number of comments in the discussion: 12. Utah wants to encourage libraries to put controls into place to restrict offensive material ie porn. The number of comments? Currently over 400. It seems to me that people here care more about being able to have publically financed access to free porn than anything else.
If censorship is illegal and unconstitutional, then you better post links to legal precedents and inform every government institution, business, media outlet, library, moderated newsgroups, and websites like slashdot that they are breaking the law.
Hmm.. you havent read any of this discussion either. This isnt ABOUT P()RN. This is about legitimate sites getting blocked in the name of porn, and government paying for and requiring such blocking.
I've read most of this discussion and it is certainly about people slamming others because they desire to not have their tax dollars subsidizing porn. The demand for such software isn't going to go away, so I'm actually surprised that most of the discussion isn't about how to create a system to minimize the amount of legitimate sites to get blocked. It's a computer problem. I used to think that nerds such as myself and others were generally interested in trying to solve such computer related problems by applying current technology or creating technology to solve it. Not here. Librarians already determine what books & periodicals are available, why not give them the software to provide feedback to do the same thing with what's coming in via their network connection?
Yeah, the mormons seem to piss off a fair number of people.
The immoral certainly get extremely pissed off when moral people stand by their principles. Whether it be Mormons, Jews, Baptists, Catholics, Muslims, etc, the pattern is the same: trash them for being 'intolerant' and wanting to ruin your naughtly fun. It's basically a culture war between those who want no restrictions on anything, everything's fair game, and those who want a clean decent society.
Just dont try forcing moral views on ME through law
Since all law is based on some moral foundation, you are either in favor of total anarchy or desire to be a hermit. Which is it? Unfortunately as more of the (Cry)Baby Boomer/ME Generation gets in control of the government, it's going to get worse, I'm afraid. "Society's rotting at the core with no direction, but hey my 401K and mutual funds are kicking ass...so go Fsck Off!!".
I'm not talking about the law requiring filtering in order to get funding, I'm talking about this Slashdot discussion.
The issue of the filter software under or over filtering is more of a procedural issue. Any company providing this sort of service should provide a means for its customers to submit URLs that they feel should be blocked, but aren't and blocked URLs that should not be. There are ISPs that provide this sort of service, and they do allow users to submit sites. Nothing can ever be 100%, but it can be better and a problem that can be solved.
Censorship is certainly a can worms. Especially when it is to suppress alternative political viewpoints. When I read news articles about governments and other groups pressuring ISPs to shutdown web sites because of their politically incorrect content, I hardly ever hear a peep about it here. But when a group of taxpayers or a legislative body wants filters on public computers in libraries or schools in order to keep their tax dollars from being used to view porn, all holy hell breaks loose! The reaction is as if the US government sold the internet to M$ and only M$ operating systems were allowed to connect to it. I certainly wouldn't rank the ability to view porn very highly on my list of must have freedoms. It's not essential for the operation of a free society. If you want to look at tits and ass, get an internet account at home and hog all the bandwidth you want. If the people and their legislative representatives of a city, county or state wish to restrict such material in public places, it's in their right to do so. Also since when did nerd == socially degenerative immoral pervert? It seems that when ever social/moral issues are discussed here, that's what it seems the prevailing attitude is. In that light, I think Rob better change the icon with the black tape over his mouth to one with a nude woman with black tape over her breasts and pelvic area. That would certainly reflect the general Slashdot concern.
I've also read a lot of negative comments about Utah, members of the LDS church, and other people that live in that state. Not only in this discussion but others on Slashdot. Most of which are false stereotypes that just prove the ignorance of the person making the statement. I lived in the Salt Lake area for a while, and sure it has some of the same problems that other metro areas have: drug & alcohol abuse, stripper clubs, gangs, etc. However, they are not on the scale of other cities and IMHO, the positives greatly outnumber the negatives. The state has consistently been ranked a good place to live, and I would agree that it is probably one of the few decent places to live in the US. But hey, guess what, if you don't like their quirky alcohol laws, local customs, or anything else, you don't have to live there. Move to an area that you like and get a life.
n fact, they were beaten --the RAF was an inch from total collapse-- but they managed to keep the enemy from discovering it. In the end the bad guys got several times the fight they'd expected in the air, lost sight of their advantages, and gave up.
Bascially, the Nazis let emotion and grandstanding get the best of them. When the Luftwaffe switched to bombing London at night in response to a minor British attack on Berlin, they lost the air war. Bombing the civilian population did nothing but piss off the British and given them time for the RAF to regroup and rebuild. As luck would have it, the guy in favor of developing long range heavy bombers for the Germans died before the war in a plane crash. They would have helped against Britain and Russia (esp Russia... they might have been able to hit the factories moved behind the Urals).
You are correct about the timing. I'm not as sharp on WWII dates as I used to be. I suppose they considered capturing the Soviet's oil fields and other resources more important. Oh well....
Fair point, I'm just annoyed by clueless statements like Britain did badly in WWII, when they were the only country in Europe to successfully hold off the Germans.
You forget that a huge portion of Germany's resources were going into its war with Russia during most of the war. Russia suffered more casaulties than any other nation in WWII. Germany was too busy fighting the Communists to commit to an invasion of Great Britain.
Don't forget about the Korean War. In Vietnam, the N. Vietnamese were certainly being supplied by China and the USSR. In Korea, China was fighting with the North Koreas against the US and its allies.
Hitler signed a treaty to get Britain off his back. His main goal was to grab Central & Eastern Europe and the USSR. Don't forget, the Nazis were extremely anti-Communist and Russia suffered the most casualties of any nation involved in WWII. The Russian body count makes the Jewish Holocost look like a picnic. This was a factor for them to create the eastern bloc as a buffer between it and the West.
Also, just because Britain was an island, didn't mean that their land forces weren't involved. Does North Africa and Indonesia ring a bell to anyone? The Brits were fighting Germany, Italy, and Japan in those areas in addition to naval warfare in the Atlantic & Pacific and air combat over Britain itself.
Other than Singapore, I would say they did very well. The RAF defense of Britain and the British crypto work kept them alive. Georing's and Hitler's screw ups didn't hurt either (the Luftwaffe chief didn't think radar was important and his switch from attacking RAF bases to bombing London at night actually helped the RAF and solidified morale. Hitler's insistence of making the Me-262 a fighter bomber delayed its entry into service by about a year. Having a jet fighter would have certainly helped them in defending against the Allied bomber raids.).
Nightmare? It shouldn't be a nightmare for a company that knows what it's doing, like IBM. The company I work for has thousands of unix machines (soon to include linux) distributed across the US. I don't think anyone considers it a 'nightmare'. Standardize the software/hardware distribution and make sure that only authorized people have the ability to update the software. Given the support contracts involved with something like the Federal Government, I'm sure it's more like a dream than a nightmare.
Just because there are a ton of MSCEs, doesn't mean we have to justify their existence. That's like saying at 1900, there's a ton of blacksmiths, buggies, and horses, so just forget about those automobiles.
The 4.6 Notes client does work with Wine. It's not 100%, but it is enough for everyday use. I've used it and the only thing stopping me from using it all the time on linux instead of windows is a lack of memory on my linux machine. I believe a guy in our linux user group now only uses it on linux. Check out http://www.brooklinesw.com/linux/lin uxnotes.html for more information.
Have you checked out freshmeat to search for any graphing tools? Or even checked out http://www.redhat.com/appindex/MathScienc e/ for opensource or commercial applications? While they certainly aren't free, MatLab or Mathematica should be able to do anything that Excel can and much, much more.
Go to www.perl.com and browse the CPAN module listing. I know there are some graphing modules, but I'm not quite sure about the math functions. I wouldn't be surprised if more of the common ones were there.
I know of some towns with populations of about 6000 that do not have any national ISP numbers. They probably have local, but given where he's going, he will need to use a national ISP with 1-800 access.
I agree. In places like where my parents live, the national ISPs only have 2 or 3 local dailup numbers in the entire state. Once you get west of the Mississippi, the distances between the medium to large cities that actually have national ISP dialups will increase and you will have to use a 1-800 number to access the account.
Even though I love the wide open desolate spaces in the West, not having local internet access is probably the biggest reason I don't move back.
How is this different than what's been contributed by any other company? The company and the Wine develpers more than likely have different short term goals with varying degrees of overlap. I'm sure that Corel's main goal was getting something into shape that would allow them to get WordPerfect Office 2000 for Linux out the door. So instead of trying to keep their changes in lockstep with the other developers, they just forked it for a little while. Sure there is going to be some time wasted in trying to get both sets of code back in sync. Big deal, it's getting merged and because of the licensing, they didn't have to, but they are.
This was true for Aol 4.0 with Win9x and MacOS, so what is the problem now? They are removing the DLLs so the other networking stuff doesn't work? That's just plain stupid. I would have thought that they would have installed it as separate DLLs and just set some registry entries to make their dialup client the default for establishing any TCP/IP connections. If someone wants to use something else, then it would still work too.
This is so stupid, I'm sure a marketing person was behind it.
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So how does one start this 'smaller, more advanced engine'? Unless it's got a crank like an old model-T or a kickstart, it's going to have an electric starter driven from a battery. The battery has to be charged somehow and if the car doesn't have a generator/alternator how does it do it?
Ok, that was a bit high...I had some other stuff done this time too ($15 timing belt + $55 other parts + $200 labor + $25 tax). But it's really difficult to get to on my car (little space and lots of stuff in the way, so I let someone else have the hassle. If I have the tools for it and I can get at it, I'll fix it myself. Otherwise, if it's something that takes a professional a few hours to do, I'd rather not waste a weekend trying to do it myself.
I wouldn't say that. A lot of materials science technology is going into diesel engines. Unlike gasoline engines, the hotter they run the better. Because of this, manufacturers like Caterpillar and Cummins are producing engines with ceramic parts, mainly for construction, agriculture, locomotive, and other similar areas. Because they can run hotter than conventional engines, they need no cooling system, burn cleaner, and are much more efficient. My uncle used to work on some of them and said that after running for about a day, the engines would glow at night because they were so hot. Now this is certainly something that probably won't go into a consumer vehicle sometime soon. But diesels that are available in ordinary passenger cars (such as the TDI Jetta) are more than sufficient for the average person.
As far as I'm concerned, Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, EarthFirst, etc. can all go to hell and I wouldn't shed a tear if they were all lost at sea. However, I do think that having clean burning efficient transportation is important. When you are wasting resources (whether it be fuel, paper, metal, etc.) you are wasting money. I'm a cheap bastard at heart, so I always try to recycle and look for efficient items not because I have a 'Save the Earth' complex, but because I don't like spending money. Think about it, once materials separation technology for recycling takes off, cities are going to be making money by strip mining their landfills.
There's not that much of a price difference between gasoline and diesel fuel. In some places in the US, diesel is actually cheaper. Some people don't like diesels because of the noise and they can be a bit sluggish compared to a gasoline engine in the same car (not always the case though). Also diesels can be modified to run on other fuels too. I remember seeing a news blurb on TV about a guy that ran is VW rabbit on vegetable oil he gets from fast food places (his car exhaust smells like french fries). Some cities are experimenting with buses running on soybean oil too.
Hummm, it can't be implemented in cars because they don't have Diesel engines,
Where have you been? My dad's been driving diesel _cars_ (specifically Oldsmobiles) since the early 80's. His Ciera could get about 40mpg and had over 250K miles on it before he got rid of it. Diesels are available from many of the European car makers, much more so than their US counterparts. I would love to get a TDI Jetta. Given their fuel economy and capacity, it's got something like a 800 mile range. I would only have to fill up once to drive to my parent's house!
Then how do you charge the battery up? Plug it into a wall outlet when you get to your destination? I know from experience that while a diesel can run without any electricity, the alternator/battery combination is very important because it takes a lot of electricity to start them because they have such a higher compression ratio than gasoline engines. That's one reason why many diesels have two batteries.
And what exactly happens in a high compression engine when a valve sticks in the open position and the piston comes home? Nothing good!
Which is one reason to make sure that the pistons are dished out where the valves would be. You have the same sort of problem if your timing belt breaks (I have to replace the timing belt in my cars ever 60K miles. The mechanic has said it wouldn't hurt if the belt breaks because the pistons have the necessary indentations, but I don't want to be stranded, so I'll pay the $300 to get them replaced).
Another big thing with diesels and cold weather is keeping the fuel from gelling up. You must remember to put #1 fuel and/or anti-gel additives in or you will be stuck. Diesels also need a lot of cranking power to start compared to gasoline engines, so the batteries had better work well in the cold weather too.
Wouldn't the Bible be what you would want to read first, seeing how it is the original source, then go back and read Book of Morman and compare the two?
It's done all the time. The King James Bible is one of the 'Standard Works' or scriptures of the LDS church. The adult Sunday school classes usually go through each chapter of each book and then start over again...it takes a while =)
Really? Ive heard a peep about it here. etoy, the bush parody sites, etc. Open your eyes.
I don't think that trademark and slander/libel lawsuits against sites equate to censorship. If you want a good example, look what's on the yro page now. There is an article about the ADL is trying to get Yahoo to censor politically incorrect forums and sites. No matter what you feel about the groups in question, it is about as blatant anti-free speech move as you can get. The number of comments in the discussion: 12. Utah wants to encourage libraries to put controls into place to restrict offensive material ie porn. The number of comments? Currently over 400. It seems to me that people here care more about being able to have publically financed access to free porn than anything else.
If censorship is illegal and unconstitutional, then you better post links to legal precedents and inform every government institution, business, media outlet, library, moderated newsgroups, and websites like slashdot that they are breaking the law.
Hmm.. you havent read any of this discussion either. This isnt ABOUT P()RN. This is about legitimate sites getting blocked in the name of porn, and government paying for and requiring such blocking.
I've read most of this discussion and it is certainly about people slamming others because they desire to not have their tax dollars subsidizing porn. The demand for such software isn't going to go away, so I'm actually surprised that most of the discussion isn't about how to create a system to minimize the amount of legitimate sites to get blocked. It's a computer problem. I used to think that nerds such as myself and others were generally interested in trying to solve such computer related problems by applying current technology or creating technology to solve it. Not here. Librarians already determine what books & periodicals are available, why not give them the software to provide feedback to do the same thing with what's coming in via their network connection?
Yeah, the mormons seem to piss off a fair number of people.
The immoral certainly get extremely pissed off when moral people stand by their principles. Whether it be Mormons, Jews, Baptists, Catholics, Muslims, etc, the pattern is the same: trash them for being 'intolerant' and wanting to ruin your naughtly fun. It's basically a culture war between those who want no restrictions on anything, everything's fair game, and those who want a clean decent society.
Just dont try forcing moral views on ME through law
Since all law is based on some moral foundation, you are either in favor of total anarchy or desire to be a hermit. Which is it? Unfortunately as more of the (Cry)Baby Boomer/ME Generation gets in control of the government, it's going to get worse, I'm afraid. "Society's rotting at the core with no direction, but hey my 401K and mutual funds are kicking ass...so go Fsck Off!!".
I'm not talking about the law requiring filtering in order to get funding, I'm talking about this Slashdot discussion.
The issue of the filter software under or over filtering is more of a procedural issue. Any company providing this sort of service should provide a means for its customers to submit URLs that they feel should be blocked, but aren't and blocked URLs that should not be. There are ISPs that provide this sort of service, and they do allow users to submit sites. Nothing can ever be 100%, but it can be better and a problem that can be solved.
Censorship is certainly a can worms. Especially when it is to suppress alternative political viewpoints. When I read news articles about governments and other groups pressuring ISPs to shutdown web sites because of their politically incorrect content, I hardly ever hear a peep about it here. But when a group of taxpayers or a legislative body wants filters on public computers in libraries or schools in order to keep their tax dollars from being used to view porn, all holy hell breaks loose! The reaction is as if the US government sold the internet to M$ and only M$ operating systems were allowed to connect to it. I certainly wouldn't rank the ability to view porn very highly on my list of must have freedoms. It's not essential for the operation of a free society. If you want to look at tits and ass, get an internet account at home and hog all the bandwidth you want. If the people and their legislative representatives of a city, county or state wish to restrict such material in public places, it's in their right to do so. Also since when did nerd == socially degenerative immoral pervert? It seems that when ever social/moral issues are discussed here, that's what it seems the prevailing attitude is. In that light, I think Rob better change the icon with the black tape over his mouth to one with a nude woman with black tape over her breasts and pelvic area. That would certainly reflect the general Slashdot concern.
I've also read a lot of negative comments about Utah, members of the LDS church, and other people that live in that state. Not only in this discussion but others on Slashdot. Most of which are false stereotypes that just prove the ignorance of the person making the statement. I lived in the Salt Lake area for a while, and sure it has some of the same problems that other metro areas have: drug & alcohol abuse, stripper clubs, gangs, etc. However, they are not on the scale of other cities and IMHO, the positives greatly outnumber the negatives. The state has consistently been ranked a good place to live, and I would agree that it is probably one of the few decent places to live in the US. But hey, guess what, if you don't like their quirky alcohol laws, local customs, or anything else, you don't have to live there. Move to an area that you like and get a life.
n fact, they were beaten --the RAF was an inch from total collapse-- but they managed to keep the enemy from discovering it. In the end the bad guys got several times the fight they'd expected in the air, lost sight of their advantages, and gave up.
Bascially, the Nazis let emotion and grandstanding get the best of them. When the Luftwaffe switched to bombing London at night in response to a minor British attack on Berlin, they lost the air war. Bombing the civilian population did nothing but piss off the British and given them time for the RAF to regroup and rebuild. As luck would have it, the guy in favor of developing long range heavy bombers for the Germans died before the war in a plane crash. They would have helped against Britain and Russia (esp Russia ... they might have been able to hit the factories moved behind the Urals).
You are correct about the timing. I'm not as sharp on WWII dates as I used to be. I suppose they considered capturing the Soviet's oil fields and other resources more important. Oh well....
Fair point, I'm just annoyed by clueless statements like Britain did badly in WWII, when they were the only country in Europe to successfully hold off the Germans.
You forget that a huge portion of Germany's resources were going into its war with Russia during most of the war. Russia suffered more casaulties than any other nation in WWII. Germany was too busy fighting the Communists to commit to an invasion of Great Britain.
One of my favorite channels on Dish Network is the BBC. I love it. Much better than the us networks
Don't forget about the Korean War. In Vietnam, the N. Vietnamese were certainly being supplied by China and the USSR. In Korea, China was fighting with the North Koreas against the US and its allies.
Hitler signed a treaty to get Britain off his back. His main goal was to grab Central & Eastern Europe and the USSR. Don't forget, the Nazis were extremely anti-Communist and Russia suffered the most casualties of any nation involved in WWII. The Russian body count makes the Jewish Holocost look like a picnic. This was a factor for them to create the eastern bloc as a buffer between it and the West.
Also, just because Britain was an island, didn't mean that their land forces weren't involved. Does North Africa and Indonesia ring a bell to anyone? The Brits were fighting Germany, Italy, and Japan in those areas in addition to naval warfare in the Atlantic & Pacific and air combat over Britain itself.
Other than Singapore, I would say they did very well. The RAF defense of Britain and the British crypto work kept them alive. Georing's and Hitler's screw ups didn't hurt either (the Luftwaffe chief didn't think radar was important and his switch from attacking RAF bases to bombing London at night actually helped the RAF and solidified morale. Hitler's insistence of making the Me-262 a fighter bomber delayed its entry into service by about a year. Having a jet fighter would have certainly helped them in defending against the Allied bomber raids.).
There is such a thing. It's called FSV. Check out http://fox.mit.edu/skunk/soft/fsv/.
Nightmare? It shouldn't be a nightmare for a company that knows what it's doing, like IBM. The company I work for has thousands of unix machines (soon to include linux) distributed across the US. I don't think anyone considers it a 'nightmare'. Standardize the software/hardware distribution and make sure that only authorized people have the ability to update the software. Given the support contracts involved with something like the Federal Government, I'm sure it's more like a dream than a nightmare.
Just because there are a ton of MSCEs, doesn't mean we have to justify their existence. That's like saying at 1900, there's a ton of blacksmiths, buggies, and horses, so just forget about those automobiles.
The 4.6 Notes client does work with Wine. It's not 100%, but it is enough for everyday use. I've used it and the only thing stopping me from using it all the time on linux instead of windows is a lack of memory on my linux machine. I believe a guy in our linux user group now only uses it on linux. Check out http://www.brooklinesw.com/linux/lin uxnotes.html for more information.
Have you checked out freshmeat to search for any graphing tools? Or even checked out http://www.redhat.com/appindex/MathScienc e/ for opensource or commercial applications? While they certainly aren't free, MatLab or Mathematica should be able to do anything that Excel can and much, much more.
Go to www.perl.com and browse the CPAN module listing. I know there are some graphing modules, but I'm not quite sure about the math functions. I wouldn't be surprised if more of the common ones were there.
I know of some towns with populations of about 6000 that do not have any national ISP numbers. They probably have local, but given where he's going, he will need to use a national ISP with 1-800 access.
I agree. In places like where my parents live, the national ISPs only have 2 or 3 local dailup numbers in the entire state. Once you get west of the Mississippi, the distances between the medium to large cities that actually have national ISP dialups will increase and you will have to use a 1-800 number to access the account.
Even though I love the wide open desolate spaces in the West, not having local internet access is probably the biggest reason I don't move back.
How is this different than what's been contributed by any other company? The company and the Wine develpers more than likely have different short term goals with varying degrees of overlap. I'm sure that Corel's main goal was getting something into shape that would allow them to get WordPerfect Office 2000 for Linux out the door. So instead of trying to keep their changes in lockstep with the other developers, they just forked it for a little while. Sure there is going to be some time wasted in trying to get both sets of code back in sync. Big deal, it's getting merged and because of the licensing, they didn't have to, but they are.
This was true for Aol 4.0 with Win9x and MacOS, so what is the problem now? They are removing the DLLs so the other networking stuff doesn't work? That's just plain stupid. I would have thought that they would have installed it as separate DLLs and just set some registry entries to make their dialup client the default for establishing any TCP/IP connections. If someone wants to use something else, then it would still work too.
This is so stupid, I'm sure a marketing person was behind it.
And the PHBs that buy the products from those marketing managers.