He's not standing up against corporate interests, he's standing up for white nationalist interests. Sometimes those will overlaps, other times, not, but you can hardly criticize us for criticizing those policies.
Sometimes corporate policies overlap with our's, sometimes not, and sometimes a majority of those on Slashdot have no idea what's really going on.
As for my post, I'm pointing out what the reality is. I hear people here making all kinds of bizarre claims about the system, and in particular most have absolutely no idea that there already are hurdles involving making sure an American couldn't (practically) be hired to do the same job. As I've never said American immigration is too lax, there's no reason to assume double standards on my part.
Companies never directly spend millions on political ads to influence policy - through PACs, yeah, but directly, pretty much never. They do, however, spend millions on ads that they think will sell their products, and it happens that "Yeah, we think Trump sucks too. Drink Budweiser" sells products. You can probably figure out why for yourself.
At one time they would have to pay someone specifically to move to that location but today they don't.
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have ever been successful doing that, without offering salaries that were absurdly high and uneconomic, and more to the point, they still would have been hiring someone without the business knowledge I brought, even if they'd have found someone already skilled in the obscure technologies the company was using at that time.
Remember, they hired me so they could have a viable, useful, US development team. What you're demanding they do instead would not have resulted in that, they always had the choice of just relying on the UK office.
No, I'm not new here, I'm someone with actual experience of the system, rather than someone who's just heard news headlines and has taken some particularly egregious abuses of the system and extrapolated it to the entire thing. There's a reason the Disney IT outsourcing thing made headlines, and why Disney walked it back, and it's not because it was business as usual.
Why was I hired and accepted? I had a combination of speciality and lack of people willing to work in the location the business concerned was located at. Essentially it was a US outpost of a UK office, and the US outpost had no developers who knew the current system - not just the developer knowledge, but the business knowledge.
From the point of view of anyone looking from the outside concerned about US jobs, hiring me was a no-brainer. It meant that there could be a local development office, with many local, American, developers. Those Americans literally wouldn't have gotten jobs if I hadn't gotten a job there. We know this because they tried, and it didn't work. The next step would have been to fire two American developers left and just have the UK office develop everything.
This worked for the non-immigrant work visa my company applied for, but even that wasn't enough to get a green card. Why? Because in theory I had a US shelf life - over time, the office would have had the skills it needed transferred, and so the six years or so I could legally stay (that's another story) would have been more than enough to get that job done.
Should that change? As long as you make the story about hiring Americans first and only hiring non-Americans if they can be justified, you'll always end up with green card requirements being stricter than work visas. For those who argue - as many do here - that green cards should be the default instead of work visas, because the latter are too easy to abuse, you're making the wrong argument if you couple it with a "Hire Americans first" justification.
The question now is, can the republicans survive him?
The Republicans have been doing this since 2008. Some of people we consider moderates today actually originally rode to power harnessing the Tea Party movement that incubated the more extreme Trump agenda. Right now, they have complete control over two branches of government, and the only reason they don't control the third is that it's not elected.
So given it's worked for them so far, I can't imagine it'll destroy them until the US itself is completely destroyed by this insanity.
I suspect the next few elections will be more "Can we elect people who'll keep the Trump regime under control?" rather than "Can we make Elizabeth Warren President and get universal healthcare back?"
Pretty much all work visas have an "Unable to hire someone local to do the same job" test, though for some it's weaker than others.
One of the frustrating things about criticism of the Trump EO is that so many people assume laxity about the current system but have literally no idea what's involved in existing immigration. To be blunt, unless you're traveling from a handful of countries that participate in what used to be called the Visa Waiver program (and for work visas, even if you do), you already have to jump over numerous hurdles, including various levels of background check, to gain access to the US. That was the case even long before 9/11, but it's even more strict now.
(FWIW, I am someone who emigrated from one of the countries that participates in what used to be called the visa waiver program. It's a sign of how long ago it was that I still call it that. I've had work visas, and my employer had to prove that my skills couldn't be found within the US. Even what they proved wasn't enough to get me an actual green card. And as part of getting the green card - I was lucky enough to find love here - I was subjected to a background check that took so long the immigration officer at my hearing was actually frustrated about that.)
Honestly, I hear these debates and think way too much is made of the fact that certain words have a negative connotation. Yes, technically banning trolls is censorship, but when we protest censorship and say it's bad, we're not talking about forums removing people for misbehaving. Alas writing "No censorship except when it's by private individuals to ensure discourse is civil on forums they moderate!" is difficult to fit on a placard, and so the message gets out that censorship is wrong, rather than the criminalization of the expression of alternative viewpoints.
Another prime example, I guess, would be "bigot". As in "Oh, so you criticize ME for hating homosexuals and wanting to restrict what they do? Well that makes you a bigot!"
Well... maybe. Alas the definition of bigot doesn't actually exclude intolerance of intolerant, destructive, viewpoints that are themselves bigotry. But again, "Down with bigotry except when applied to other bigots who are not themselves protesting bigotry, except if their criticism is intended to attack those who are intolerant of bigots who are not themselves protesting bigotry, and so on" doesn't fit on a placard. As a result, "I'm not a bigot, you're the bigot for calling me a bigot, checkmate" is a common argument amongst those whose intolerance is actually poisonous.
Words having meanings, those meanings are rarely defining something evil in 100% of cases.
The OpenBSD team's main forte is auditing and fixing code, rather than creating new code. The "new" parts of OpenBSD, that didn't originate somewhere else, take a very long time to develop and mature as a result.
OpenBSD started as a fork of NetBSD. It's not like Theo wrote the entire thing from scratch.
That leads to an exodus of thoughtful, helpful, posters. Look at it like a bar: if you're trying to make a nice place for people to have a drink after work, but it becomes a hang out for drunken gang members who regularly have fights with one another, how many peaceful office and factory workers are going to frequent the bar?
Ignoring it is the worst possible thing you can do. The issue ultimately is that this is the Internet, and the Internet has always had a "You must publish my claptrap or else you're engaged in censorship" thing going on, which is partially why Twitter gets ragged on here when they ban people for actively harassing others.
In truth, we probably need better moderation in the vast majority of websites, and we probably need people to suffer site bans on more sites if their actions are not appropriate for the sites in question. Normalize that, and you'll start to see better behavior.
Because the discussion of the EO has centered around terrorism (something it's unlikely to have any affect on, given the lack of terrorist incidents in the US committed by people from the affected countries so far), and the tech industry (because it's tech that's been most high profile in attacking the ban), the affect on other industries has been largely ignored. But yeah, doctors are being turned away and doctors living in the US are having their visas canceled, and you can draw your own conclusions as to what the effect of that will be.
I didn't read a threat, just a warning to fascists that history hasn't shown positive outcomes for two of the three European examples. The other one, FWIW, killed himself in a bunker just after telling his underlings to destroy his country. Fascism takes a certain course, always towards destruction.
I'm not sure why it should be necessary to post this on Slashdot, or warn people in general. I think, really, a sizable number of Trump supporters are in denial about what he represents. Many - from experience - don't even follow the news, and had little idea of what he was before they voted for him, just looking at him as "Not Clinton."
Those in denial won't recognize the warning, because they don't want to believe that it applies. From their point of view, Trump is just another President. They've never heard of Bannon. On the odd occasion they've heard something worrying about Trump, it's been "balanced" by an exaggeration of something done by "the other side".
Will Trump end up hung on meathooks by an angry mob? I hope it won't go that far. I hope Congress will impeach him long before he can set up a Reichstag event that'll make him impossible to remove.
It's a little complex, but yeah, your choices are:
- Boot in developer mode, some customization possible but essentially you're stuck in ChromeOS and can easily have your system wiped.
- Boot in dev mode with a modified BIOS, alternative operating system allowed but in a very user unfriendly way (you need to hit CTRL-L, which isn't documented or shown on screen, to boot the alternative OS, for example.)
- Boot with the BIOS replaced completely with an open source alternative. This effectively turns it into a regular Wintel laptop, and you can install a regular GNU/Linux distribution - maybe even Windows, I have no idea, but you can no longer dual boot with ChromeOS (ChromiumOS might be possible, not sure.)
It is, to be honest, a horrible process running something other than ChromeOS on a Chromebook. I suspect that's why Crouton is so popular - it's a kludge, and has severe limitations, but it at least means you can stick with ChromeOS handling everything. But obviously, if you do that, there's the huge risk of someone booting up your device and wiping everything out because it boots up in vanilla developer mode.
Because none of them are fascists. One is a straight-up racist, so there's that, but the other two voted for him because they hadn't done any research, wouldn't believe us when we explained his platform to them, and made it clear they were voting for him because they didn't like Clinton.
The wouldn't believe us when we explained his platform to them bit is key. He's doing exactly what we told them he'd do. They're still in denial.
I know, it's worrying, I mean, they implement the Ribbon, but they haven't implemented Clippy yet? Does this mean they'll never get around to implementing Clippy?
Oddly enough, most of the people I know who wear smartwatches (I haven't actually asked them what they're wearing) are in IT, with Marketing execs being 100% of the remainder. So/. (the IT, not marketing, obviously) actually should have a lot of smartwatch owners if my anecdotal evidence is anything to go by.
Going around my office, of a medium sized company of which the IT team is less than ten people in size, I don't really see anyone wearing the things.
I wish that were true. I suspect most people know at least one person who voted for Trump. I personally have three members of my extended family who did, and no, they show no signs of being remorseful.
FFS, why do you think I used the term "OS X derived operating system" throughout my comment? Or do you think iOS isn't derived from OS X?
And yes, there are fat binaries in iOS. There always have been. You think Apple thought "Nah, we're never going to use anything but 32 bit ARM for our iDevices?" when they built iOS and wasted huge amounts of time removing the functionality? How do you think developers handle the situation today? Do they just ship 32 bit executables, because if they ship 64 bit executables then anyone with an older device will be unable to use their apps?
The flaw in your argument is that supporting 64 bit and 32 bit binaries on OS X derived operating systems is not mutually exclusive. Indeed, at one point (one small point, lasting a year or two during the transition to Intel) most desktop apps on OS X were shipped supporting 32 bit PPC, 64 bit PPC, 32 bit ix86, and 64 bit amd64 architectures - all in the same package.
OS X derived OSes use a system called "fat binaries" that contain two or more binaries compiled - usually from the same source code - for each CPU architecture the app supports. The operating system chooses which to run. Interestingly I believe ELF has the same capability, but nobody ever uses it.
Don't worry, I suspect your misapprehension is common and is why the article is misleading to begin with...
Hell we've been drone-bombing, killing innocent civilians, in most of the countries affected by trumps immigration order.
Yes, and liberals complained about it at the time. Unfortunately you f---ers were so wrapped up in trying to stop Obamacare for the 183rd time, you ignored what we were complaining about.
The irrationality and hypocrisy of it all tells us whats actually important to Democrats, and its neither immigration nor the lives of innocent people.
The fact you've had your eyes closed for the last eight years isn't our problem, and it doesn't make Democrats hypocrites.
It does, however, make you one, because faced with a government that really is breaking its promises to our allies, ignoring the law at a time when ignoring the law puts people in harm's way, and blatantly ignoring the constitution, your response is to whine about Obama doing what every single President does, rather than to condemn it in the same way as you did when, say, Obama didn't immediately comply with judicial orders requiring deportations (which, unlike in this case, would have harmed people, not protected them.)
You're an apologist for a new Nazi regime. Go fuck yourself.
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He's not standing up against corporate interests, he's standing up for white nationalist interests. Sometimes those will overlaps, other times, not, but you can hardly criticize us for criticizing those policies.
Sometimes corporate policies overlap with our's, sometimes not, and sometimes a majority of those on Slashdot have no idea what's really going on.
As for my post, I'm pointing out what the reality is. I hear people here making all kinds of bizarre claims about the system, and in particular most have absolutely no idea that there already are hurdles involving making sure an American couldn't (practically) be hired to do the same job. As I've never said American immigration is too lax, there's no reason to assume double standards on my part.
Companies never directly spend millions on political ads to influence policy - through PACs, yeah, but directly, pretty much never. They do, however, spend millions on ads that they think will sell their products, and it happens that "Yeah, we think Trump sucks too. Drink Budweiser" sells products. You can probably figure out why for yourself.
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have ever been successful doing that, without offering salaries that were absurdly high and uneconomic, and more to the point, they still would have been hiring someone without the business knowledge I brought, even if they'd have found someone already skilled in the obscure technologies the company was using at that time.
Remember, they hired me so they could have a viable, useful, US development team. What you're demanding they do instead would not have resulted in that, they always had the choice of just relying on the UK office.
No, I'm not new here, I'm someone with actual experience of the system, rather than someone who's just heard news headlines and has taken some particularly egregious abuses of the system and extrapolated it to the entire thing. There's a reason the Disney IT outsourcing thing made headlines, and why Disney walked it back, and it's not because it was business as usual.
Why was I hired and accepted? I had a combination of speciality and lack of people willing to work in the location the business concerned was located at. Essentially it was a US outpost of a UK office, and the US outpost had no developers who knew the current system - not just the developer knowledge, but the business knowledge.
From the point of view of anyone looking from the outside concerned about US jobs, hiring me was a no-brainer. It meant that there could be a local development office, with many local, American, developers. Those Americans literally wouldn't have gotten jobs if I hadn't gotten a job there. We know this because they tried, and it didn't work. The next step would have been to fire two American developers left and just have the UK office develop everything.
This worked for the non-immigrant work visa my company applied for, but even that wasn't enough to get a green card. Why? Because in theory I had a US shelf life - over time, the office would have had the skills it needed transferred, and so the six years or so I could legally stay (that's another story) would have been more than enough to get that job done.
Should that change? As long as you make the story about hiring Americans first and only hiring non-Americans if they can be justified, you'll always end up with green card requirements being stricter than work visas. For those who argue - as many do here - that green cards should be the default instead of work visas, because the latter are too easy to abuse, you're making the wrong argument if you couple it with a "Hire Americans first" justification.
The Republicans have been doing this since 2008. Some of people we consider moderates today actually originally rode to power harnessing the Tea Party movement that incubated the more extreme Trump agenda. Right now, they have complete control over two branches of government, and the only reason they don't control the third is that it's not elected.
So given it's worked for them so far, I can't imagine it'll destroy them until the US itself is completely destroyed by this insanity.
I suspect the next few elections will be more "Can we elect people who'll keep the Trump regime under control?" rather than "Can we make Elizabeth Warren President and get universal healthcare back?"
Pretty much all work visas have an "Unable to hire someone local to do the same job" test, though for some it's weaker than others.
One of the frustrating things about criticism of the Trump EO is that so many people assume laxity about the current system but have literally no idea what's involved in existing immigration. To be blunt, unless you're traveling from a handful of countries that participate in what used to be called the Visa Waiver program (and for work visas, even if you do), you already have to jump over numerous hurdles, including various levels of background check, to gain access to the US. That was the case even long before 9/11, but it's even more strict now.
(FWIW, I am someone who emigrated from one of the countries that participates in what used to be called the visa waiver program. It's a sign of how long ago it was that I still call it that. I've had work visas, and my employer had to prove that my skills couldn't be found within the US. Even what they proved wasn't enough to get me an actual green card. And as part of getting the green card - I was lucky enough to find love here - I was subjected to a background check that took so long the immigration officer at my hearing was actually frustrated about that.)
Honestly, I hear these debates and think way too much is made of the fact that certain words have a negative connotation. Yes, technically banning trolls is censorship, but when we protest censorship and say it's bad, we're not talking about forums removing people for misbehaving. Alas writing "No censorship except when it's by private individuals to ensure discourse is civil on forums they moderate!" is difficult to fit on a placard, and so the message gets out that censorship is wrong, rather than the criminalization of the expression of alternative viewpoints.
Another prime example, I guess, would be "bigot". As in "Oh, so you criticize ME for hating homosexuals and wanting to restrict what they do? Well that makes you a bigot!"
Well... maybe. Alas the definition of bigot doesn't actually exclude intolerance of intolerant, destructive, viewpoints that are themselves bigotry. But again, "Down with bigotry except when applied to other bigots who are not themselves protesting bigotry, except if their criticism is intended to attack those who are intolerant of bigots who are not themselves protesting bigotry, and so on" doesn't fit on a placard. As a result, "I'm not a bigot, you're the bigot for calling me a bigot, checkmate" is a common argument amongst those whose intolerance is actually poisonous.
Words having meanings, those meanings are rarely defining something evil in 100% of cases.
All of them. (Plugins anyway)
The OpenBSD team's main forte is auditing and fixing code, rather than creating new code. The "new" parts of OpenBSD, that didn't originate somewhere else, take a very long time to develop and mature as a result.
OpenBSD started as a fork of NetBSD. It's not like Theo wrote the entire thing from scratch.
That leads to an exodus of thoughtful, helpful, posters. Look at it like a bar: if you're trying to make a nice place for people to have a drink after work, but it becomes a hang out for drunken gang members who regularly have fights with one another, how many peaceful office and factory workers are going to frequent the bar?
Ignoring it is the worst possible thing you can do. The issue ultimately is that this is the Internet, and the Internet has always had a "You must publish my claptrap or else you're engaged in censorship" thing going on, which is partially why Twitter gets ragged on here when they ban people for actively harassing others.
In truth, we probably need better moderation in the vast majority of websites, and we probably need people to suffer site bans on more sites if their actions are not appropriate for the sites in question. Normalize that, and you'll start to see better behavior.
I can't comment on H1-Bs but I know that the medical industry is already highly reliant upon immigrant doctors and nurses, and yes, the EO has lead to some problems, causing doctors shortages in some areas of the US.
Because the discussion of the EO has centered around terrorism (something it's unlikely to have any affect on, given the lack of terrorist incidents in the US committed by people from the affected countries so far), and the tech industry (because it's tech that's been most high profile in attacking the ban), the affect on other industries has been largely ignored. But yeah, doctors are being turned away and doctors living in the US are having their visas canceled, and you can draw your own conclusions as to what the effect of that will be.
I didn't read a threat, just a warning to fascists that history hasn't shown positive outcomes for two of the three European examples. The other one, FWIW, killed himself in a bunker just after telling his underlings to destroy his country. Fascism takes a certain course, always towards destruction.
I'm not sure why it should be necessary to post this on Slashdot, or warn people in general. I think, really, a sizable number of Trump supporters are in denial about what he represents. Many - from experience - don't even follow the news, and had little idea of what he was before they voted for him, just looking at him as "Not Clinton."
Those in denial won't recognize the warning, because they don't want to believe that it applies. From their point of view, Trump is just another President. They've never heard of Bannon. On the odd occasion they've heard something worrying about Trump, it's been "balanced" by an exaggeration of something done by "the other side".
Will Trump end up hung on meathooks by an angry mob? I hope it won't go that far. I hope Congress will impeach him long before he can set up a Reichstag event that'll make him impossible to remove.
I'm struggling to see how. Legitimate consumers presumably aren't searching using those keywords.
It's a little complex, but yeah, your choices are:
- Boot in developer mode, some customization possible but essentially you're stuck in ChromeOS and can easily have your system wiped.
- Boot in dev mode with a modified BIOS, alternative operating system allowed but in a very user unfriendly way (you need to hit CTRL-L, which isn't documented or shown on screen, to boot the alternative OS, for example.)
- Boot with the BIOS replaced completely with an open source alternative. This effectively turns it into a regular Wintel laptop, and you can install a regular GNU/Linux distribution - maybe even Windows, I have no idea, but you can no longer dual boot with ChromeOS (ChromiumOS might be possible, not sure.)
More information here.
It is, to be honest, a horrible process running something other than ChromeOS on a Chromebook. I suspect that's why Crouton is so popular - it's a kludge, and has severe limitations, but it at least means you can stick with ChromeOS handling everything. But obviously, if you do that, there's the huge risk of someone booting up your device and wiping everything out because it boots up in vanilla developer mode.
The Highway Fund has been insolvent for decades, and you want to reduce gas taxes?
Because none of them are fascists. One is a straight-up racist, so there's that, but the other two voted for him because they hadn't done any research, wouldn't believe us when we explained his platform to them, and made it clear they were voting for him because they didn't like Clinton.
The wouldn't believe us when we explained his platform to them bit is key. He's doing exactly what we told them he'd do. They're still in denial.
I know, it's worrying, I mean, they implement the Ribbon, but they haven't implemented Clippy yet? Does this mean they'll never get around to implementing Clippy?
Well, good news...
Not if you're copying a 17Mb file at the time time (but I'm not sure I want to start a holy war over that...)
People don't use their exercise equipment after they've bought it? Wow. So... what do they hang clothes on?
Oddly enough, most of the people I know who wear smartwatches (I haven't actually asked them what they're wearing) are in IT, with Marketing execs being 100% of the remainder. So /. (the IT, not marketing, obviously) actually should have a lot of smartwatch owners if my anecdotal evidence is anything to go by.
Going around my office, of a medium sized company of which the IT team is less than ten people in size, I don't really see anyone wearing the things.
I wish that were true. I suspect most people know at least one person who voted for Trump. I personally have three members of my extended family who did, and no, they show no signs of being remorseful.
Cool story Grandbro.
FFS, why do you think I used the term "OS X derived operating system" throughout my comment? Or do you think iOS isn't derived from OS X?
And yes, there are fat binaries in iOS. There always have been. You think Apple thought "Nah, we're never going to use anything but 32 bit ARM for our iDevices?" when they built iOS and wasted huge amounts of time removing the functionality? How do you think developers handle the situation today? Do they just ship 32 bit executables, because if they ship 64 bit executables then anyone with an older device will be unable to use their apps?
The flaw in your argument is that supporting 64 bit and 32 bit binaries on OS X derived operating systems is not mutually exclusive. Indeed, at one point (one small point, lasting a year or two during the transition to Intel) most desktop apps on OS X were shipped supporting 32 bit PPC, 64 bit PPC, 32 bit ix86, and 64 bit amd64 architectures - all in the same package.
OS X derived OSes use a system called "fat binaries" that contain two or more binaries compiled - usually from the same source code - for each CPU architecture the app supports. The operating system chooses which to run. Interestingly I believe ELF has the same capability, but nobody ever uses it.
Don't worry, I suspect your misapprehension is common and is why the article is misleading to begin with...
Yes, and liberals complained about it at the time. Unfortunately you f---ers were so wrapped up in trying to stop Obamacare for the 183rd time, you ignored what we were complaining about.
The fact you've had your eyes closed for the last eight years isn't our problem, and it doesn't make Democrats hypocrites.
It does, however, make you one, because faced with a government that really is breaking its promises to our allies, ignoring the law at a time when ignoring the law puts people in harm's way, and blatantly ignoring the constitution, your response is to whine about Obama doing what every single President does, rather than to condemn it in the same way as you did when, say, Obama didn't immediately comply with judicial orders requiring deportations (which, unlike in this case, would have harmed people, not protected them.)
You're an apologist for a new Nazi regime. Go fuck yourself.