You're starting an arms race. Cisco is already shipping routers to dead drops in a bid to avoid NSA interceptions.
The entire tech ecosystem is reacting to increased surveillance.
The average user you will get it. But person with something to hide? They'll install a bit of encryption software that will not only encrypt the data but make it look like it doesn't even exist.
And if there is something you have a bogus encrypted file that is decrypted instead.
There are lots of means of dealing with this stuff.
Oh look, its the guy that denies Gruber exists again.
As to me looking like an idiot in this post... explain why?
Lets see if this goes any better for you then the last thread did. Because you got fucking murdered in the last thread.
But if you want to keep playing with me, then I'm your huckleberry.
I'm going to restate the challenge because I learned in the last thread that you're an idiot. So I'm going to have to restate my challenges multiple times so that you really really have no excuse.
As to me looking like an idiot in this post... explain why?
As to me looking like an idiot in this post... explain why?
As to me looking like an idiot in this post... explain why?
This guy would be just be pathetic... He goes from one insanely controversial idea to the next without really bothering to explain or justify any of it. I mean seriously, imagine if congress weren't deadlocked... this guy would be the biggest lame duck president... ever.
The whole situation is bizarre. It is like congress took its gun out of its desk, stuck it in its mouth, and blew raspberry jam all over the walls... and then the president decided to eat a fist full of brand new recreational drugs... we'll call it mindfuck. And while that's going on the judiciary is more interested in its weekly bingo and bridge games to really concern itself with the situation.
It is as if every single branch has succumbed to their inherent weaknesses at the same time.
What they want are white lists given that black list based security has failed.
I appreciate their problem. But the appropriate way to deal with it is by having something very much like anti virus only instead of looking for bad software it looks for good software.
That is the security of the future.
The walled garden is a variation on that theme but not a very good one.
One of the most distasteful things about it is that it attempts to monopolize the software distribution system. And google or apple presumes to say what is and is not acceptable software.
If you want horse porn simulators that contain no malware or viruses then who is Apple or google to say you can't have it?
They only do that because they are monopolizing the distribution system and in doing that they become embarrassed when children type in something for "horsies" and get horse porn. That is an argument for google to not monopolize the distribution system.
By all means, verify if given APK's are valid etc. But don't be the one and only source for such things.
In any case, you say you like it?
I wouldn't take it away from you. Where did I say that I would take it away from you?
I said it was irrelevant. To you... you may love it... but it still doesn't matter. The evolution of the system is going to come outside that garden. It already is as we speak. Most of the really cool programs for android cannot be found in the marketplace. And the remaining cool apps tend to get banned by google. I can give you a list if you like.
But it doesn't matter. Those that know... know. And those that don't know have opinions based on ignorance... and so their opinions aren't especially meaningful. Are there great numbers of these people? Sure... who said that mattered?
Depends on your phone. Mine came rooted. I bought it that way from the manufacturer.
But I get your issue. I increasingly think the ROM of the phones should be removable. A micro SD card or something. That way anyone can install the desired software simply by pulling the SD card and writing directly to the card bypassing everything else.
That also would protect nicely from software attacks on the phone. Installing something wouldn't bypass the security but pulling the SD card and overwriting the rom would.
I can't speak to such statistics. I know only my own experiences.
I do not get viruses or malware. I notice that ignorant users do all the time. I know this because they ask for my help to remove it.
I would also draw your attention to all the statistics and studies that turn out to be specious. This is a very common thing in our society today. Many people do not know how to conduct statistical studies and many people do not know how to analyze statistics.
You see this in major newspapers and in peer reviewed studies.
Silly things like Causation and Correlation are not accounted for which is inexcusable.
Other things like biased samples.
I've seen it too often to trust any statistic I haven't personally vetted. Which means of course I ignore nearly all statistical studies. But what else can I do? They can only serve to mislead unless they are handled by educated people with an interest in accurate results.
Demonstrably most statistics are handled by people that are either ignorant or unethical.
So again, I can only speak for experience... which is that I don't get infections.
For android there exists pornographic games. To say nothing of games like Grand Thief Auto that let you go on shooting rampages after bouncing on hookers.
I said it didn't matter. I don't care. You say their walled garden is very hard to manage and maintain? Okay... but why do I care? I don't stay in the garden.
I am largely disinterested in the whole concept of it actually. It is unmanagable...
Because one is ignorant, one must either accept only a limited selection of choices from a trusted third party or risk exposure to predators of various stripes.
On desktop operating systems it is generally understood that the price of ignorance is risk. That is why they get viruses and malware and their identities stolen.
On the smartphones the understanding is that the price of ignorance is limited choices.
If one is not ignorant, then one need not concern themselves with such things.
So you see... I said "it is irrelevant"... Such things are imaginary barriers that have no material existence.
there are fads... and as I said, there is value in a walled garden but it is a crutch for the ignorant. And as the OS becomes more useful and involved such things will be of diminishing relevance especially for those like myself that are required by employment to do with it things that the makers did not initially wish.
You can circumvent the protections in iOS rather easily as well.
First rule of computer security... physical security.
If I hold it in my hand then I can control it given time. And given that the machines are the same and that others work with the same problem, all that need happen is that one of us break through and then share the solution.
Most security systems fall in this way in mere hours after release. The only ones that last longer only do so because no one really cares.
I have some experience with it. You can value my opinion as you will. We're all equals on the internet after all.
I have a rooted android phone and I install programs etc on it all the time that aren't provided or approved by google.
In the long run, if android is to become a real operating system that must be a significant element of the android software ecosystem.
Walled gardens are fine for those that need them but they are of limited value to those capable of getting more from their machines.
This attempt by google to weed their garden is fine... it does not matter. So long as I can leave the garden entirely and get what I want... it matters little what is permitted inside the garden or not.
I have no problem with that so long as your objective is expanding knowledge. But it is more than that and you know it.
And if you really want to play the game of "well who can say and maybe it is and maybe it isn't"... then fine. You're just opting out of a rational discussion and saying you think you can win the politics.
And that's fine. But it has a price.
When you cross these lines there are prices to pay. If you don't want to pay them then step back across the line. There is no having it both ways.
I have no problem with NASA exploring fields of knowledge especially as they are related to space exploration. Use them as a domestic political tool and you've just put a foot in the ring.
You put your foot in the ring and it is game on. You don't get to walk into the ring, throw a sucker punch, and then cry foul when the opposition puts you in a head lock.
YOU stepped in the ring.
Stay out of politics and politics will leave you alone. If science wants to avoid politics then don't make political alliances or do the dirty work of various political factions. You enter the ring you're in the fight.
I seriously don't grasp why anyone would store coins with anyone. I can personally hold billions of dollars worth of coins a cheap flash drive. So... why?
The whole point of bitcoins was that you don't need a trusted third party.
as to F5 to refresh a page... I can think of few situations where that wouldn't be my preference. And those situations would be the exception. Which means the passive rule should be that that is how it works while the few sites that do need it get the service enabled.
There are very few sites where I'd actually want it. A site with some sort of database that I wanted to actively manipulate. In any other situation I'm struggling to see the point.
IE was formative in the development of the internet and webpage standards. Their attitudes influenced the style of the web that was to come.
Really, install no script and then go for a few random sites and see all the bullshit javascript that pages try to load. Its fucking offensive.
As to IE being malware... activex is definitely a pile of shit. But so is javascript and ajax. The rules under which these scripts are executed needs to be passively restricted to the domain of the site you're currently using. At the very least.
The republicans are not a monothlic group anymore than are the democrats.
Lets say I picked the most foaming at the mouth bat shit crazy democrats you've ever seen... and then suggested that all democrats were like that. How reasonable would that be?
That's what you just did. And it is a common tactic used by BOTH sides.
When the republicans talk about democrats they like to talk about the fringe. The really crazy ones that make even people in their own party cringe.
And when the democrats talk about republicans they like to talk about the fringe as well. The really crazy republicans that make people even in their own party cringe.
Do you see what happened here?
You'd do well to be a bit more self aware least you get mindfucked by one faction or another. They are all disinterested in anyone thinking for themselves. Every faction wants you to think like they think, reject all opposing views, close your mind, and mindlessly fight against their various opposition.
I am not a robot. I refuse to be programmed. Think to your own mind before you question the minds of others.
I understand, and there are very few pages I go to that actually need javascript at all. I know this because I passively disable javascript.
The only thing I need javascript for on this site for example is the comment system.
You need it for online banking and you need it for ecommerce... and that's about it.
And to a certain extent those are self fulfilling prophecies because they rely on those things because they exist. Could could have all those things without javascript. It would just require page refreshes.
regardless, a simple fix would be to deny javascript not from the domain you were using. That all by itself would disable about 99 percent of the javascript that you'll find on a page and would disable just about 0 percent of the code you need to use the site.
In any case, there were also a lot of things in javascript that should have been denied. The ability to create a pop up at all should have been denied. There's no legimitate reason for passively allowing any site to do that that is not massively outweighed by the drawbacks.
There are other things.
I'm quite technical thank you... I'm just not tolerant of lazy or sloppy system's design. I believe in absolute controls on absolute priorities. That requires brutal design choices when certain elements of the design cannot be compromised.
In what way am I a coward? Substantiate that position or it is void.
In what way am I following the herd? Substantiate that position or it is void.
You claim I "could be evil"... really? Couldn't anyone? Anyway, this comment is too vague to be meaningful.
As to being "useful to my empire"... were you not the same idiot that said he'd punch me for suggesting he pissed on the flag? That would be you claiming to be a patriot and then you try to use being "useful" to my society as an insult?
Forgive me, it is very hard to unpack the stupid from your comments. I could have you confused with some other half wit. You're like fucking mosquitoes in a swamp at this point.
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You can have hidden encrypted information.
You're starting an arms race. Cisco is already shipping routers to dead drops in a bid to avoid NSA interceptions.
The entire tech ecosystem is reacting to increased surveillance.
The average user you will get it. But person with something to hide? They'll install a bit of encryption software that will not only encrypt the data but make it look like it doesn't even exist.
And if there is something you have a bogus encrypted file that is decrypted instead.
There are lots of means of dealing with this stuff.
Oh look, its the guy that denies Gruber exists again.
As to me looking like an idiot in this post... explain why?
Lets see if this goes any better for you then the last thread did. Because you got fucking murdered in the last thread.
But if you want to keep playing with me, then I'm your huckleberry.
I'm going to restate the challenge because I learned in the last thread that you're an idiot. So I'm going to have to restate my challenges multiple times so that you really really have no excuse.
As to me looking like an idiot in this post... explain why?
As to me looking like an idiot in this post... explain why?
As to me looking like an idiot in this post... explain why?
Okay... hit me with your best shot, chump.
This guy would be just be pathetic... He goes from one insanely controversial idea to the next without really bothering to explain or justify any of it. I mean seriously, imagine if congress weren't deadlocked... this guy would be the biggest lame duck president... ever.
The whole situation is bizarre. It is like congress took its gun out of its desk, stuck it in its mouth, and blew raspberry jam all over the walls... and then the president decided to eat a fist full of brand new recreational drugs... we'll call it mindfuck. And while that's going on the judiciary is more interested in its weekly bingo and bridge games to really concern itself with the situation.
It is as if every single branch has succumbed to their inherent weaknesses at the same time.
your offense does not mean the statement is inaccurate...
Its sloppy.
What they want are white lists given that black list based security has failed.
I appreciate their problem. But the appropriate way to deal with it is by having something very much like anti virus only instead of looking for bad software it looks for good software.
That is the security of the future.
The walled garden is a variation on that theme but not a very good one.
One of the most distasteful things about it is that it attempts to monopolize the software distribution system. And google or apple presumes to say what is and is not acceptable software.
If you want horse porn simulators that contain no malware or viruses then who is Apple or google to say you can't have it?
They only do that because they are monopolizing the distribution system and in doing that they become embarrassed when children type in something for "horsies" and get horse porn. That is an argument for google to not monopolize the distribution system.
By all means, verify if given APK's are valid etc. But don't be the one and only source for such things.
In any case, you say you like it?
I wouldn't take it away from you. Where did I say that I would take it away from you?
I said it was irrelevant. To you... you may love it... but it still doesn't matter. The evolution of the system is going to come outside that garden. It already is as we speak. Most of the really cool programs for android cannot be found in the marketplace. And the remaining cool apps tend to get banned by google. I can give you a list if you like.
But it doesn't matter. Those that know... know. And those that don't know have opinions based on ignorance... and so their opinions aren't especially meaningful. Are there great numbers of these people? Sure... who said that mattered?
Depends on your phone. Mine came rooted. I bought it that way from the manufacturer.
But I get your issue. I increasingly think the ROM of the phones should be removable. A micro SD card or something. That way anyone can install the desired software simply by pulling the SD card and writing directly to the card bypassing everything else.
That also would protect nicely from software attacks on the phone. Installing something wouldn't bypass the security but pulling the SD card and overwriting the rom would.
I can't speak to such statistics. I know only my own experiences.
I do not get viruses or malware. I notice that ignorant users do all the time. I know this because they ask for my help to remove it.
I would also draw your attention to all the statistics and studies that turn out to be specious. This is a very common thing in our society today. Many people do not know how to conduct statistical studies and many people do not know how to analyze statistics.
You see this in major newspapers and in peer reviewed studies.
Silly things like Causation and Correlation are not accounted for which is inexcusable.
Other things like biased samples.
I've seen it too often to trust any statistic I haven't personally vetted. Which means of course I ignore nearly all statistical studies. But what else can I do? They can only serve to mislead unless they are handled by educated people with an interest in accurate results.
Demonstrably most statistics are handled by people that are either ignorant or unethical.
So again, I can only speak for experience... which is that I don't get infections.
A general operating system should be more dynamic than what android is at this time.
For android there exists pornographic games. To say nothing of games like Grand Thief Auto that let you go on shooting rampages after bouncing on hookers.
I really don't know what you're talking about.
I'm not clueless, I'm indifferent.
I said it didn't matter. I don't care. You say their walled garden is very hard to manage and maintain? Okay... but why do I care? I don't stay in the garden.
I am largely disinterested in the whole concept of it actually. It is unmanagable...
Because one is ignorant, one must either accept only a limited selection of choices from a trusted third party or risk exposure to predators of various stripes.
On desktop operating systems it is generally understood that the price of ignorance is risk. That is why they get viruses and malware and their identities stolen.
On the smartphones the understanding is that the price of ignorance is limited choices.
If one is not ignorant, then one need not concern themselves with such things.
So you see... I said "it is irrelevant"... Such things are imaginary barriers that have no material existence.
This is nothing.
there are fads... and as I said, there is value in a walled garden but it is a crutch for the ignorant. And as the OS becomes more useful and involved such things will be of diminishing relevance especially for those like myself that are required by employment to do with it things that the makers did not initially wish.
You can circumvent the protections in iOS rather easily as well.
First rule of computer security... physical security.
If I hold it in my hand then I can control it given time. And given that the machines are the same and that others work with the same problem, all that need happen is that one of us break through and then share the solution.
Most security systems fall in this way in mere hours after release. The only ones that last longer only do so because no one really cares.
I have some experience with it. You can value my opinion as you will. We're all equals on the internet after all.
I know... I just was adding that I had control over my machine and it does what I want.
That is the future of any platform of relevance.
I have a rooted android phone and I install programs etc on it all the time that aren't provided or approved by google.
In the long run, if android is to become a real operating system that must be a significant element of the android software ecosystem.
Walled gardens are fine for those that need them but they are of limited value to those capable of getting more from their machines.
This attempt by google to weed their garden is fine... it does not matter. So long as I can leave the garden entirely and get what I want... it matters little what is permitted inside the garden or not.
I have no problem with that so long as your objective is expanding knowledge. But it is more than that and you know it.
And if you really want to play the game of "well who can say and maybe it is and maybe it isn't"... then fine. You're just opting out of a rational discussion and saying you think you can win the politics.
And that's fine. But it has a price.
When you cross these lines there are prices to pay. If you don't want to pay them then step back across the line. There is no having it both ways.
I have no problem with NASA exploring fields of knowledge especially as they are related to space exploration. Use them as a domestic political tool and you've just put a foot in the ring.
You put your foot in the ring and it is game on. You don't get to walk into the ring, throw a sucker punch, and then cry foul when the opposition puts you in a head lock.
YOU stepped in the ring.
Stay out of politics and politics will leave you alone. If science wants to avoid politics then don't make political alliances or do the dirty work of various political factions. You enter the ring you're in the fight.
I seriously don't grasp why anyone would store coins with anyone. I can personally hold billions of dollars worth of coins a cheap flash drive. So... why?
The whole point of bitcoins was that you don't need a trusted third party.
So why are you trusting a third party?
Nope, that's the virtue of actually backing up your statements. Things stop being opinions.
You think everything is always an opinion so you're going to try to just contradict me endlessly like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I'm more sophisticated then you though, so I am capable of more than that.
as to F5 to refresh a page... I can think of few situations where that wouldn't be my preference. And those situations would be the exception. Which means the passive rule should be that that is how it works while the few sites that do need it get the service enabled.
There are very few sites where I'd actually want it. A site with some sort of database that I wanted to actively manipulate. In any other situation I'm struggling to see the point.
They don't know that or they don't know that they do that?
A fair number of places that think they're fine are just complacent enough to have corruption going on under their feet without realizing it.
That's an additional problem but that isn't why people hated IE.
Actually it isn't. Unlike you, I justified my positions. I didn't just make blank statements but instead I have been making falsifiable arguments.
And when I have done this you've run away from any attempt to either confront my positions or make your own using falsifiable logic.
At best you're ignorant. At worst you're some sort of degenerate.
I can't tell which... Anyway... nothing profitable to be gained from the likes of you. We're done. You can fuck off at any time.
that merely compounded the issue. javascript all by itself is a problem.
IE was formative in the development of the internet and webpage standards. Their attitudes influenced the style of the web that was to come.
Really, install no script and then go for a few random sites and see all the bullshit javascript that pages try to load. Its fucking offensive.
As to IE being malware... activex is definitely a pile of shit. But so is javascript and ajax. The rules under which these scripts are executed needs to be passively restricted to the domain of the site you're currently using. At the very least.
The republicans are not a monothlic group anymore than are the democrats.
Lets say I picked the most foaming at the mouth bat shit crazy democrats you've ever seen... and then suggested that all democrats were like that. How reasonable would that be?
That's what you just did. And it is a common tactic used by BOTH sides.
When the republicans talk about democrats they like to talk about the fringe. The really crazy ones that make even people in their own party cringe.
And when the democrats talk about republicans they like to talk about the fringe as well. The really crazy republicans that make people even in their own party cringe.
Do you see what happened here?
You'd do well to be a bit more self aware least you get mindfucked by one faction or another. They are all disinterested in anyone thinking for themselves. Every faction wants you to think like they think, reject all opposing views, close your mind, and mindlessly fight against their various opposition.
I am not a robot. I refuse to be programmed. Think to your own mind before you question the minds of others.
I understand, and there are very few pages I go to that actually need javascript at all. I know this because I passively disable javascript.
The only thing I need javascript for on this site for example is the comment system.
You need it for online banking and you need it for ecommerce... and that's about it.
And to a certain extent those are self fulfilling prophecies because they rely on those things because they exist. Could could have all those things without javascript. It would just require page refreshes.
regardless, a simple fix would be to deny javascript not from the domain you were using. That all by itself would disable about 99 percent of the javascript that you'll find on a page and would disable just about 0 percent of the code you need to use the site.
In any case, there were also a lot of things in javascript that should have been denied. The ability to create a pop up at all should have been denied. There's no legimitate reason for passively allowing any site to do that that is not massively outweighed by the drawbacks.
There are other things.
I'm quite technical thank you... I'm just not tolerant of lazy or sloppy system's design. I believe in absolute controls on absolute priorities. That requires brutal design choices when certain elements of the design cannot be compromised.
MS was sloppy and lazy and it cost them.
In what way am I a coward? Substantiate that position or it is void.
In what way am I following the herd? Substantiate that position or it is void.
You claim I "could be evil"... really? Couldn't anyone? Anyway, this comment is too vague to be meaningful.
As to being "useful to my empire"... were you not the same idiot that said he'd punch me for suggesting he pissed on the flag? That would be you claiming to be a patriot and then you try to use being "useful" to my society as an insult?
Forgive me, it is very hard to unpack the stupid from your comments. I could have you confused with some other half wit. You're like fucking mosquitoes in a swamp at this point.