It would destroy the corporations outright. They would not be able to operate.
The economy would collapse.
The real story is that the taxes you're talking about are the sort that only the middle class really pay. And I agree that is crappy.
Note that tax systems are set up not to be fair or just or reasonable but to generate money. That is really the only thing that you can take for granted with a tax system is that it will generate revenue.
As to income tax going up to a 100 percent, I'm not sure I know what the point of that would be... are you trying to make sure that we have no billionaires?
Why would you do that? Billionaires are occasionally very useful. They found companies. Do great works. It does happen. And you'd lose that if you made that impossible.
I think your idea is that the government should control everything and nothing big should exist except for the government.
The problem with that is that the same people you don't like running corporations will just run the government instead. Where not only will they have everything they have now but they'll have the force of law.
My idea has them getting NO data at all. You don't give them your data. Rather, THEY give you the engine. Your data stays local on your machine the whole time.
And from that you figure out your education profile and get the kind of education you need.
All they get are download statistics. I suppose they could compare IP addresses to figure out which student downloaded which selection of courses but that won't give lots of personal information. You can infer personal information but it will be fussy information.
what if you cut foam insulation into a jacket so it wouldn't compress?
And then you could always bring heater with you.
There are jackets that have built in heaters. The jackets are not rated for that cold weather. however, if you used some sort of insulation that world work up there plus those little portable heaters... it might work.
As to O2... the air at that altitude is enough to not die according to the article. It just not enough to remain conscious. The point is not to completely replace your air but to supplement it with enough oxygen that you don't pass out.
... so att isn't att because att was split and parts of it that were split later re-consolidated back into an organization that calls themselves att but you don't consider this company att even though that is its name?
Nevermind that the ads I just posted were from 1993.
Remember when they were going to put a video phone in every house?... this was in the early nineties. They had this big push about the future... how local bar's jukebox would have every song EVER.
Well, it happened. But it happened in spite of them not with their help. They didn't bring it to us.
But they keep pretending like that's what they do... when they don't.
We aren't that wealthy though. Its just this sort of thing that is slowly killing us.
The problem is centralized control. That allows the dogma of a central ethos to dominate everything and prevent innovation, competition, mutation, or just simple diversity.
Everything must conform to the dogma.
Those in control believe everyone should go to college just like they did... as a result, everyone must. The whole system is then driven by that directive.
Prior to centralization you had machine shops in high schools. Vocational programs were more relevant. And of course education programs were tailored to specific student bodies.
But look at what is happening now... Common core... which means the centralization will now dictate in detail what must be taught and how it must be taught.
Will this help failing schools? Unlikely. Their problem isn't that they don't know what to teach the children, its that the children themselves are either disinterested or the parents are actively discouraging education itself. Common core is more likely to harm schools and students that aren't having a problem by creating a lowest common denominator situation.
On a slightly different subject...
I see you're a fan of school unions. I have no problem with them myself so long as they're localized to the school. I do have an issue with them when they form into state and national lobbies or involve themselves extensively in political campaigns that don't have much to do with the actual students in the actual classrooms.
It is a part of my centralized control argument. Large networks of unions effectively harmonize all policy amongst many different schools that will have different situations and different needs. That is a problem. Each of those schools should be different because the students are not uniform. For non-uniform students to be turned into uniform graduates you'll need a non-uniform school system that tailors each education program as closely as possible to the needs of each student body.
Do you disagree?
Stating the obvious... this is just my opinion. *shrugs*
Well obviously business interests have been involved in government for longer then labor unions because labor unions aren't as old as corporations or just really rich people.
And I do get the point that we need something to counter corporate interests. However, unions must be countered as well which themselves must be countered with something like corporate interests.
As such, who started it first isn't really important unless you don't care about solving the problem.
if you ACTUALLY want to solve the problem, you'll ban the money from both sides. Because its both or neither.
I agree of course. My point was that they could not justify the price increase on the basis of a theft that consumed less then a percent of a percent of their revenue.
I'm not justifying the theft, asshat. I'm pointing out that that its such a tiny blip in their expenses that it doesn't justify an across the board price increase.
For example... lets say I own a sandwich shop. And one day, my father comes to visit my sandwich shop and I give him a free sandwich. That means my shop made less money per sandwich sold then it would have if I had made my father pay for his sandwich.
Will I now have to increase prices on all my sandwiches to cover this expense?
Obviously fucking not.
Thank you for arriving on the same page I was reading from. I am NOT justifying the theft. I am saying rather that Comcast has billions in revenue... 2.4 million lost here or there spread across the whole subscriber base wouldn't add so much as a PENNY to the cost of the average user.
Not one fucking cent.
So comcast on that note can blow it directly out their ass. Were they robbed? Yes. Is that bad? Yes. Do I approve of robbery? No. Do I think Comcast is a terrible company that should get ripped apart why wolves? Yes. Will I release those wolves on it to do just that? No. Will I clap and giggle should that happen? Yes.
well again... and I feel like I must have said this about 5 times already... its reusable.
So... yeah... the economy on the first trip isn't amazing. But if you make a point of doing this like some skybound hobo then your ongoing costs would be pretty low. You'd just have to refill the O2 tank between trips.
And obviously it isn't practical to actually do this... what the fuck are you talking about? Hitching a ride in the wheel well of a commercial airliner? Fucking ridiculous. It was a stupid idea before 9/11 and now with all the overblown paranoia about bombs on planes its almost impossible to get near them without either being a ninja or an airport worker. And with the possible exception of the ninja, I'm struggling to see why anyone would take the risk of discovery or account the discomfort as worth saving the cost of the plane flight.
So no... I am not saying it is practical.
What I am saying is that aside from the illegality and discomfort of being crammed in a depressurized wheel well for 5 hours... there are ways to do it safely.
If what kills people is the lack of oxygen and fridged temperature... then you get yourself an O2 tank and some warm clothing... and as to falling out of the well on landing... Tie yourself in.
The only expensive bit is the coat... lets say that's 500 to 1000 dollars and even that is if you're paying retail.
If you want to go cheap you can probably "make" coat out of old blankets. It doesn't have to be pretty or light. You're not going to move once you're in the wheel well. You're just going to sit in there and not move. So it can be heavy and clunky. Which means in so far as a coat is concerned it can be quite light.
Now in regards to oxygen, you're just looking for a basic tank there. you can either look for medical supplies or scuba supplies. Either one will probably work. You'll want to not pressurize it as much to compensate for the altitude but that's about it.
Second hand scuba equipment doesn't have to be that pricy.
Third you have whatever you're using to secure yourself under the plane. Mostly rope. Not expensive.
And then appreciate all of this is reusable.
The real problem with hiding in a wheel well is that its illegal and uncomfortable. The danger is only if you're unprepared and an idiot.
So there are three factors that you need to deal with apparently.
1. The cold.
Solution: Get yourself a really good jacket. Something you could take to the north pole... should be enough.
2. Lack of oxygen.
Solution: Get yourself an O2 tank... The kind they take to Everest. Just something to supplement the air you're breathing.
3. Falling out of the god damn airplane.
Solution: Some basic mountaineering gear would likely do the trick. Just ropes and clamps.
All told, what you seem to need are high altitude mountaineering gear. So, some cold weather gear, an oxygen bottle, and some ropes. Doubtless it would be a nasty ride but you'd probably survive.
The issue is that so many of the students are so far behind that you can't bother with critical thinking if you want to prepare them for college.
Which means the only way to give them a proper education is to accept that some kids are not college material.
Do that and the whole system falls into order.
Stop trying to turn kids that have a hard time reading at age 15 into astrophysicists, lawyers, and surgeons. Its a wasted effort.
Rather, get those kids something that will actually be useful in their life. Some job skills that will let them support themselves. And maybe THEIR kids will be college material. But anyone that can't read at age 15 needs to be put on a more realistic career path.
What I've just said is politically incorrect. We're supposed to believe that people that can't read at age 25 can become president or something if just try. Well, no. It isn't happening. Get over it.
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Explain terms of usage. If I made an error, I'd like to be corrected in a way that I won't make it again.
You don't know what that would do...
It would destroy the corporations outright. They would not be able to operate.
The economy would collapse.
The real story is that the taxes you're talking about are the sort that only the middle class really pay. And I agree that is crappy.
Note that tax systems are set up not to be fair or just or reasonable but to generate money. That is really the only thing that you can take for granted with a tax system is that it will generate revenue.
As to income tax going up to a 100 percent, I'm not sure I know what the point of that would be... are you trying to make sure that we have no billionaires?
Why would you do that? Billionaires are occasionally very useful. They found companies. Do great works. It does happen. And you'd lose that if you made that impossible.
I think your idea is that the government should control everything and nothing big should exist except for the government.
The problem with that is that the same people you don't like running corporations will just run the government instead. Where not only will they have everything they have now but they'll have the force of law.
Saying something is impossible without really thinking about it isn't constructive. And no, you did not actually think about it.
Actually I'm pointing out you made a null comment.
Try again.
My idea has them getting NO data at all. You don't give them your data. Rather, THEY give you the engine. Your data stays local on your machine the whole time.
And from that you figure out your education profile and get the kind of education you need.
All they get are download statistics. I suppose they could compare IP addresses to figure out which student downloaded which selection of courses but that won't give lots of personal information. You can infer personal information but it will be fussy information.
Ideally you have it all on your person... no bags... just an outfit that has all these qualities in it.
Look, its clearly possible... we have high altitude jump suits that have all these features.
Those are very light and of course quite expensive.
But you could make a poor man's version of the same thing at the cost of aesthetics and likely a little extra weight.
Don't tell me it can't be done... it has been done.
Don't give them your data... have them give you the engine.
Then you feed the data into it locally, and it generates a customized learning profile which is anonymoized.
Then you anonymously download profile XJ2221LP4-123 whatever and then you get the best of both worlds.
Why are people so stupid... its so fucking easy.
Exactly. att is not the future... they're the past.
what if you cut foam insulation into a jacket so it wouldn't compress?
And then you could always bring heater with you.
There are jackets that have built in heaters. The jackets are not rated for that cold weather. however, if you used some sort of insulation that world work up there plus those little portable heaters... it might work.
As to O2... the air at that altitude is enough to not die according to the article. It just not enough to remain conscious. The point is not to completely replace your air but to supplement it with enough oxygen that you don't pass out.
Oh my god you found a typo on an online comment!
That must mean you're a genius and the poor fool you corrected is a complete idiot. /s
twat.
... so att isn't att because att was split and parts of it that were split later re-consolidated back into an organization that calls themselves att but you don't consider this company att even though that is its name?
Nevermind that the ads I just posted were from 1993.
Here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
this is nothing new from ATT... they talk a big game.
Remember when they were going to put a video phone in every house?... this was in the early nineties. They had this big push about the future... how local bar's jukebox would have every song EVER.
Well, it happened. But it happened in spite of them not with their help. They didn't bring it to us.
But they keep pretending like that's what they do... when they don't.
We aren't that wealthy though. Its just this sort of thing that is slowly killing us.
The problem is centralized control. That allows the dogma of a central ethos to dominate everything and prevent innovation, competition, mutation, or just simple diversity.
Everything must conform to the dogma.
Those in control believe everyone should go to college just like they did... as a result, everyone must. The whole system is then driven by that directive.
Prior to centralization you had machine shops in high schools. Vocational programs were more relevant. And of course education programs were tailored to specific student bodies.
But look at what is happening now... Common core... which means the centralization will now dictate in detail what must be taught and how it must be taught.
Will this help failing schools? Unlikely. Their problem isn't that they don't know what to teach the children, its that the children themselves are either disinterested or the parents are actively discouraging education itself. Common core is more likely to harm schools and students that aren't having a problem by creating a lowest common denominator situation.
On a slightly different subject...
I see you're a fan of school unions. I have no problem with them myself so long as they're localized to the school. I do have an issue with them when they form into state and national lobbies or involve themselves extensively in political campaigns that don't have much to do with the actual students in the actual classrooms.
It is a part of my centralized control argument. Large networks of unions effectively harmonize all policy amongst many different schools that will have different situations and different needs. That is a problem. Each of those schools should be different because the students are not uniform. For non-uniform students to be turned into uniform graduates you'll need a non-uniform school system that tailors each education program as closely as possible to the needs of each student body.
Do you disagree?
Stating the obvious... this is just my opinion.
*shrugs*
You don't need any of that to stay alive. Possibly you need it to be comfortable but that's a different story.
Well obviously business interests have been involved in government for longer then labor unions because labor unions aren't as old as corporations or just really rich people.
And I do get the point that we need something to counter corporate interests. However, unions must be countered as well which themselves must be countered with something like corporate interests.
As such, who started it first isn't really important unless you don't care about solving the problem.
if you ACTUALLY want to solve the problem, you'll ban the money from both sides. Because its both or neither.
Choose.
Both or neither.
I agree of course. My point was that they could not justify the price increase on the basis of a theft that consumed less then a percent of a percent of their revenue.
I'm not justifying the theft, asshat. I'm pointing out that that its such a tiny blip in their expenses that it doesn't justify an across the board price increase.
For example... lets say I own a sandwich shop. And one day, my father comes to visit my sandwich shop and I give him a free sandwich. That means my shop made less money per sandwich sold then it would have if I had made my father pay for his sandwich.
Will I now have to increase prices on all my sandwiches to cover this expense?
Obviously fucking not.
Thank you for arriving on the same page I was reading from. I am NOT justifying the theft. I am saying rather that Comcast has billions in revenue... 2.4 million lost here or there spread across the whole subscriber base wouldn't add so much as a PENNY to the cost of the average user.
Not one fucking cent.
So comcast on that note can blow it directly out their ass. Were they robbed? Yes. Is that bad? Yes. Do I approve of robbery? No. Do I think Comcast is a terrible company that should get ripped apart why wolves? Yes. Will I release those wolves on it to do just that? No. Will I clap and giggle should that happen? Yes.
Just what is, my bucko.
well again... and I feel like I must have said this about 5 times already... its reusable.
So... yeah... the economy on the first trip isn't amazing. But if you make a point of doing this like some skybound hobo then your ongoing costs would be pretty low. You'd just have to refill the O2 tank between trips.
And obviously it isn't practical to actually do this... what the fuck are you talking about? Hitching a ride in the wheel well of a commercial airliner? Fucking ridiculous. It was a stupid idea before 9/11 and now with all the overblown paranoia about bombs on planes its almost impossible to get near them without either being a ninja or an airport worker. And with the possible exception of the ninja, I'm struggling to see why anyone would take the risk of discovery or account the discomfort as worth saving the cost of the plane flight.
So no... I am not saying it is practical.
What I am saying is that aside from the illegality and discomfort of being crammed in a depressurized wheel well for 5 hours... there are ways to do it safely.
If what kills people is the lack of oxygen and fridged temperature... then you get yourself an O2 tank and some warm clothing... and as to falling out of the well on landing... Tie yourself in.
This can't be that complicated.
2.4 million dollars is irrelevant in that enterprise.
They spend a good deal more then that on a single executive's pay.
how much more risk will there be if you run out there with nothing? It seems pretty similar.
As to air pressure changes, that is unpleasant but not life threatening.
whatever... the point is that if you wrap up, get some O2, and some ropes you're good.
Does it really though?
The only expensive bit is the coat... lets say that's 500 to 1000 dollars and even that is if you're paying retail.
If you want to go cheap you can probably "make" coat out of old blankets. It doesn't have to be pretty or light. You're not going to move once you're in the wheel well. You're just going to sit in there and not move. So it can be heavy and clunky. Which means in so far as a coat is concerned it can be quite light.
Now in regards to oxygen, you're just looking for a basic tank there. you can either look for medical supplies or scuba supplies. Either one will probably work. You'll want to not pressurize it as much to compensate for the altitude but that's about it.
Second hand scuba equipment doesn't have to be that pricy.
Third you have whatever you're using to secure yourself under the plane. Mostly rope. Not expensive.
And then appreciate all of this is reusable.
The real problem with hiding in a wheel well is that its illegal and uncomfortable. The danger is only if you're unprepared and an idiot.
... is that sick?
So there are three factors that you need to deal with apparently.
1. The cold.
Solution: Get yourself a really good jacket. Something you could take to the north pole... should be enough.
2. Lack of oxygen.
Solution: Get yourself an O2 tank... The kind they take to Everest. Just something to supplement the air you're breathing.
3. Falling out of the god damn airplane.
Solution: Some basic mountaineering gear would likely do the trick. Just ropes and clamps.
All told, what you seem to need are high altitude mountaineering gear. So, some cold weather gear, an oxygen bottle, and some ropes. Doubtless it would be a nasty ride but you'd probably survive.
The issue is that so many of the students are so far behind that you can't bother with critical thinking if you want to prepare them for college.
Which means the only way to give them a proper education is to accept that some kids are not college material.
Do that and the whole system falls into order.
Stop trying to turn kids that have a hard time reading at age 15 into astrophysicists, lawyers, and surgeons. Its a wasted effort.
Rather, get those kids something that will actually be useful in their life. Some job skills that will let them support themselves. And maybe THEIR kids will be college material. But anyone that can't read at age 15 needs to be put on a more realistic career path.
What I've just said is politically incorrect. We're supposed to believe that people that can't read at age 25 can become president or something if just try. Well, no. It isn't happening. Get over it.