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Experts Say Hitching a Ride In an Airliner's Wheel Well Is Not a Good Idea
Hugh Pickens DOT Com (2995471) writes "Hasani Gittens reports that as miraculous as it was that a 16-year-old California boy was able to hitch a ride from San Jose to Hawaii and survive, it isn't the first time a wheel-well stowaway has lived to tell about it. The FAA says that since 1947 there have been 105 people who have tried to surreptitiously travel in plane landing gear — with a survival rate of about 25 percent. But agency adds that the actual numbers are probably higher, as some survivors may have escaped unnoticed, and bodies could fall into the ocean undetected. Except for the occasional happy ending, hiding in the landing gear of a aircraft as it soars miles above the Earth is generally a losing proposition. According to an FAA/Wright State University study titled 'Survival at High Altitudes: Wheel-Well Passengers,' at 20,000 feet the temperature experienced by a stowaway would be -13 F, at 30,000 it would be -45 in the wheel well — and at 40,000 feet, the mercury plunges to a deadly -85 F (PDF). 'You're dealing with an incredibly harsh environment,' says aviation and security expert Anthony Roman. 'Temperatures can reach -50 F, and oxygen levels there are barely sustainable for life.' Even if a strong-bodied individual is lucky enough to stand the cold and the lack of oxygen, there's still the issue of falling out of the plane. 'It's almost impossible not to get thrown out when the gear opens,' says Roman.
So how do the lucky one-in-four survive? The answer, surprisingly, is that a few factors of human physiology are at play: As the aircraft climbs, the body enters a state of hypoxia—that is, it lacks oxygen—and the person passes out. At the same time, the frigid temperatures cause a state of hypothermia, which preserves the nervous system. 'It's similar to a young kid who falls to the bottom of an icy lake," says Roman. "and two hours later he survives, because he was so cold.'"
So how do the lucky one-in-four survive? The answer, surprisingly, is that a few factors of human physiology are at play: As the aircraft climbs, the body enters a state of hypoxia—that is, it lacks oxygen—and the person passes out. At the same time, the frigid temperatures cause a state of hypothermia, which preserves the nervous system. 'It's similar to a young kid who falls to the bottom of an icy lake," says Roman. "and two hours later he survives, because he was so cold.'"
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I'm glad the "experts" cleared that up for me. I guess I'll have to change my vacation plans!
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Never mind the lack of oxygen and the cold, what about simply getting crushed when the gear is retracted? That's game over at 200 ft.
i'd watch it.
If people who die in a wheel well always have their dead bodies discovered, while *some* of the people who survive a wheel-well journey don't -- they sneak out on the tarmac undetected -- then the survival rate of 25 percent must be an under-estimate, or at least is potentially an under-estimate.
David W. Hogg -- assoc prof, NYU Physics
At 20,000 feet the temperature experienced by a stowaway would be -13 F, at 30,000 it would be -45 in the wheel well — and at 40,000 feet, the mercury plunges to a deadly -85 F
Lol, feet and degrees Fahreheit, wtf is this, the 17th century?
Oh wait. America.
Mercury can't plunge to -85 degrees Fahrenheit. It solidifies at -37.8922 degrees Fahrenheit. Fail.
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There was an anarchist guide, steal this wiki a 2000s follow on to Steal This Book, that actually had instructions including stealing a medical oxygen bottle and preparing for the cold. It actually recommended against the whole thing but was a surprisingly complete overview.
Unfortunately the website appears to be gone now, probably the complete guide to disabling a cargo ship to block a shipping channel or making explosives and drugs got the feds called in.
...getting there means you're a survivor. ...when you're dying to get there. ...more fun than Russian Roulette ...when it absolutely positively has to be there overnight or you'll die.
No annoying seat neighbors. No screaming kids within earshot. Not getting groped and molested while going through security. You can bring any amount of liquids. You can even bring and consume your own alcohol. Etc ..
Why do they bother with all of the ridiculous security protocols for airline passengers when apparently it's pretty easy to sneak a 16-year-old-kid-sized bomb into the wheel well of an aircraft on the tarmac?
So much neater and easier than trying to sneak weapons through airport security. And the best part is, you don't have to commit suicide to take the plane down.
Seriously, airplane security is clearly full of holes and the sham of passenger security checks is just that, a sham meant to make us 'feel' safe while wasting our time and shoveling tons of dollars to the TSA.
What I want to know is, why is what was on CNN yesterday constantly showing up on slashdot the next? Fuck Beta.
1. Dress warmly. Even if the plane takes off in a tropical location. Make sure to cover exposed body parts - you don't want to pay with eary, fingers, toes or your nose for the trip.
2. Bring oxygen (that's going to be the hard part. Several hours worth of oxygen).
3. Familiarize yourself with various plane types so you don't get crushed by an unsuitable wheel well design.
4. Secure yourself to the plane so you don't get thrown out during landing.
What I get out of this story is that, if you're lucky enough to survive the trip in the wheel well, it's much more convenient to travel this way than doing it the regular way: no queuing, no overcharging from the airlines, no restrictions on the amounts of liquids you can carry, no getting your gonads showered with x-rays, no groping from TSA perverts... and of course, no arbitrary, secret no-fly list that prevents you from boarding the plane in the first place.
The airport security theater almost makes me want to risk my life as a stowaway.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
... is that sick?
So there are three factors that you need to deal with apparently.
1. The cold.
Solution: Get yourself a really good jacket. Something you could take to the north pole... should be enough.
2. Lack of oxygen.
Solution: Get yourself an O2 tank... The kind they take to Everest. Just something to supplement the air you're breathing.
3. Falling out of the god damn airplane.
Solution: Some basic mountaineering gear would likely do the trick. Just ropes and clamps.
All told, what you seem to need are high altitude mountaineering gear. So, some cold weather gear, an oxygen bottle, and some ropes. Doubtless it would be a nasty ride but you'd probably survive.
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Really? Not reading further
"Normal People Also Say Hitching a Ride In an Airliner's Wheel Well Is Not a Good Idea"
What about the engine noise? Does one need to bring the earplugs?
Experts Say Hitching a Ride In an Airliner's Wheel Well Is Not a Good Idea
YOU DON'T SAY ?
I like memes and this one really shines here
Half of the population is assholes, and the rest are only a point or two above retards. Real nice.
For those outside of Lybia, USA, and Burma:
20,000 feet = 6km
40,000 feet = 12,2km
-13F = -25C
-85F = -65C
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... you might as well make the reason alcohol intoxication instead of hypoxia.
Also, bring hard liquor. The hardest stuff you can find. Anything else might freeze.
Why do they bother with all of the ridiculous security protocols for airline passengers when apparently it's pretty easy to sneak a 16-year-old-kid-sized bomb into the wheel well of an aircraft on the tarmac?
The Government fights the last war, because it's reactive rather than proactive. If 9/11 had consisted of four blown up airliners via wheel well bombs this hole would have been closed a long time ago. Likewise, if some jackass hadn't tried to light his sneakers on fire we'd still be able to board without taking our shoes off.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
Bah. You kids these days...
Back in my day, we didn't complain about the cold and lack of oxygen. We rode in unpressurized planes with open gun ports. Sure, it was cold -- we wore fur lined jackets and liked it. Our oxygen masks smelled like engine exhaust and we were grateful. You didn't here us whine about 'being crushed by landing gear' or 'being thrown from the plane'. We were being shot at. Hell, we were lucky to have landing gear at all when we got back.
So, stop your bitching and get off my damn lawn.
Written for my grandfather who manned a gun in a WWII bomber.
I guess the memo had a misspelling. The wheel wells seem to be a good place for terrorists, not for tourists.
If someone can sneak up to the plane and climb in, it should be equally easy to put a bomb there. If a 16-year-old can find a way to squeeze into that space, it wouldn't be too difficult to fit in a couple hundred pounds of explosives.
But Mars is super hospitable and ready for human colonization. You'd think a few hours in a wheel well is just a practice run for humanity's glorious destiny among the stars?
The first part I get, but how does "bodies falling into the ocean" mean the survival numbers are probably higher?
And no molestation by the TSA I would assume.
We needed an expert to tell us this? I mean really, if you can't figure out on your own that stowing away in a wheel well of an airplane is a bad idea perhaps you don't deserve to live.
Experts Say Hitching a Ride In an Airliner's Wheel Well Is Not a Good Idea
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You're just dead wrong.
20,000 feet MSL = 466 HPa
40,00 feet MSL = 188 HPa
These are flight levels, which are only colloquially "feet"; they're a measure of air pressure.
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If the airplane wheels were sitting for a long time on a hot pavement, I would expect the compartment to be kept lot warmer that the outside air.
Jetset freighthopping?
Stainless steel hobo?
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Given the physiological limitations of the human body, when I first read this story and everyone was screaming about security, I was thinking how did he survive? I've done some skydives from 30,000 feet, obviously with full O2 mask, warm clothing, etc. And been to a few chamber ride classes. Whole security thing we can argue for eternity but comment of, "frigid temperatures cause a state of hypothermia, which preserves the nervous system." Now that's interesting.
I never would ever consider riding in a wheel well, first danger is those doors first lower prior to wheel retraction (if on one of those, drop you go). Then when wheel folds up, would know where to place yourself without getting crushed?
I remember in a magazine back in early 1970s or a long time ago, someone got a photo of a person falling from a airliner on takeoff. Apparently photog took a picture of an airliner taking off and happen to catch unlucky "hitchhiker" who fell from the wheel well.
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Why was this kid this desparate to get into any plane wheel well? Did they return him to an unsafe home environment in California?
A belly landing on the tarmac would likely be scary and newsworthy, but there's a good chance that relatively few people would be hurt/killed.
This article is just dis-info to keep people buying airplane tickets. All you need is a snowmobile suit a ski hat snow goggles and a roll of duct tape.
just use the entire roll and duct tape on your self and to the landing gear leg.
Just don't try buying the duct tape at the thrift store. It gets old and wears out.
Step number 2 should be "bring a rebreather", rather than an oxygen tank. Rebreathers should be good for trans-pacific flights, 1.5-8 hour capacity, theoretically speaking.
Then again, Not sure how well they will work at 40,000 feet in the atmosphere. Nor if the sensors will know how to prevent you getting stoned out of your mind on too much oxygen (depending on the particular configuration of the rebreather). Still a rebreather would be my tank of preference for a wheel well trip.
But then if you can afford the $4000-$15,000+ for a rebreather, you could probably afford to hire a private jet.
Of course, you could probably save a bunch of money, if you plan on being a frequent-wheel-well-flyer.
My grandfather manned a gun in a real open cockpit in WWI, flying in planes put together by wires, cloth and wood.
He took one of those wires through his chest in a crash landing, and lived to tell the tale, get married, have kids and eventully die mowing his grass one week after lung surgery because he was bullheaded, stubborn, Irishman [yeah runs in the family].
"But agency adds that the actual numbers are probably higher, as some survivors may have escaped unnoticed, and bodies could fall into the ocean undetected."
If we assume the number of people who escaped unnoticed is about the same as the number of people who fell into the ocean, then the actual numbers are probably about the same. Unless they are making a strange presumption that people can survive a fall into the ocean.
Hopefully lightbulbs are going on in the minds of any people at NASA or the military doing hibernation research right now...
...so long as it is executed at a young enough age to insure the bearer of that gene does not get a chance to reproduce.