My concern is that the standards stifle innovation.
How do you solve that problem?
If you can find a way to manage that issue short of "oh the politicians will update the standards as needed" then I might get behind it. But so far that's how most standards work.
And no better is "the unelected bureaucrats will manage it". Actually, its a lot worse. Remember how teh FAA recently said it was okay to have electronics on an airplane? Standards.
Those the sorts of standards I want to avoid.
Come up with a way for the government to regulate technology in a way that isn't regressive and I'll stand behind it. Short of that, I'm skeptical.
That isn't the situation we have here... here the government owns the poles. And the government sets the rates to use those poles.
So if we were in control we wouldn't be in the situation we are... and yet this is the situation we're in... so we can't be in control.
The issue is that the poles are related fees are an obscure part of city and county policy that no one has the patience to pay attention to for more then two seconds. And as a result, they can put any fee they like on it for any reason they like and get away with it so long as the bill when it hits consumers is affordable.
Which means for example that if ISPs cut costs and improve efficiency dramatically you won't actually see a price cut in your bill. What happens is that the taxes go up to pick up the slack. This is not cynicism. This has already happened repeatedly with other goods and services.
Look at it like the cigarette taxes if you like... the point of those was to discourage people from smoking... right? Well, what happened when people actually stopped smoking? Ironically, the taxes increased roughly by the same ratio of people quitting.
What is the price for a pack of cigarettes in NYC right now? Nearly six dollars. And that's just the excise tax...
Its anti innovation, its anti competitive, its rent seeking, and a general abomination.
All the above. Why? Because its a hole they can suck blood out of... and the vampires will clamp their jaws around any hole they can suck blood out of and suck and suck and suck.
Its how it is...
Only way to stop it is to close the hole.
You give the government a couple well known places it can pull money from and that is IT. End of story nothing more. Give them latitude to come up with new places they can pull money and they'll get their needles out and start poking you. Before you know it every exposed surface will weep blood. And they'll be there licking it up.
That's why I'd prefer a co-op. Something not a company and not the government. Everyone pays into it to keep it going but it has no link to the city or the county or the state that allows them to drain it from the back end.
The internet is full of standards... and really, while some companies like to create this lock in situation, if there are enough companies it is not in the collective corporate interest to have such differing standards.
Look at the computer industry. Are those standards mandated by the government? Nope. And yet they are maintained... why? Because it creates a mutual habitate for everyone to design and build upon.
Will you get the occasional troll like apple or sony etc that will come up with their own standards that no on else can use? Sure. But have they succeeded in shutting down the ecosystem? Not at all. Sony likely has hurt themselves which is why lately they seem to mostly be releasing standardized equipment. Apple still seems to be getting away with inventing a new USB port every few years but so what.
As regards ISPs, I don't think they could pull an apple or a sony. I don't think anyone cares enough about them to deem them worthy of it. They'll hold with standards because it keeps costs down and because it makes customers happy.
Do you think the ISPs would really start using different jacks or different incompatible communication's protocols? I really doubt it.
There is no earthly reason for these commodities and stocks to trade hands faster then that. What are you doing?
The primary issue here is that human beings can't keep up with it. And that's extremely dangerous. If the computer gets confused then it can smash the market before anyone can do anything about it. But if its doing its thing in ten second pulses then you can likely stop it.
The secondary issue is that the market is very unfair with high frequency trading because it gives people with a better connection a huge advantage over everyone else. Its like having a time machine. Its the insider trading of knowing what the price is going to be in.2 seconds.
Pulse the system and most of that advantage goes away. Sure, your might get your order in faster if your system placed it faster but there's less information to react to... fewer iterations of the price to buy or sell against. You buy and sell on the pulse.
The problem after this will be the dark markets... the in house trading and between house trading of stocks, bonds, futures, etc. And putting any rules on the market tends to encourage the houses to use the dark markets more and more.
Which is fine. You control that by putting laws on the houses that they can't accept certain types of money if they're doing a lot of in house trading. The money you don't let them have is the pension money. The mortgage money. The big safe pots of money that the people give to the market makers largely to keep safe and grow at some reasonable rate.
The big houses need that money or they can't make the big buys. They can't leverage it to bend markets. And that means they have to choose... do they want to go big into the dark market or have access to the pension money? Because you make it a choice and they'll mostly choose the pensions. Which means the ones that will go after the dark market will be the smaller guys... the hustlers. And whatever they might or might not do, without the liquidity of the safe money... they won't really matter.
Actually the places most likely to have multiple ISPs are rural areas... that is places where you'll find multiple cable companies laying their cable wire side by side to the same homes.
If logistically that works in a suburban area then it must in an urban area.
The logic on that is inescapable.
Which means it isn't logistics or economics that is holding it back.
And what is left when we remove logistics and economics?
Politics and law.
What you'll find is that the actual block is local ordinances that jack up costs and make it all but impossible for smaller ISPs to get going.
Being regulated doesn't mean being efficient or not being corrupt.
Look at the mexican telephone company.
Its a state monopoly... ever seen a mexican telephone bill?
Sorry, sport... its a zero cost operation. Its a tax/revenue scheme for local governments to get a little extra tax money through a service fee.
You see it in phone bills as well.
Ever tried to take your phone bill as low as you could go? Ever seen what portion of the bill that is left is taxes?
I set up a phone not long ago that was I shit you not 80 percent taxes. The phone company operated on 20 percent of what I was paying. 80 percent went to the government.
The government just needs to be taken out of these things. They want money? Remove the crap service taxes and have the stones to raise the actual taxes.
The point of all these little nickle and dime taxes is to hide the real tax rate. You have one big tax that is about as big as you can get away with... and then you have a thousand little taxes that eat away at the edges. And then you have taxes at different levels of the supply chain so that by the time someone goes to buy something they don't realize that half the price of whatever they're buying is just people up the supply chain passing the taxes down.
That's the game.
Its all predicated on the assumption that the people are stupid, unaware, incurious, gullible, and moronically trusting. Is that redundant? Only in the way that three exclamation marks are redundant and yet emphasize the point just that much more.
Beyond anything else its a threat to our very freedoms.
I don't want the government in control of water, power, food, or the internet.
All of that is just leverage. Something they can put over you to make you comply.
You have rights? Where does it say they have to give you water or road access or electrical power etc? It doesn't... which means if you don't play ball they can cut those things off and you have no legal redress.
Its how the federal government keeps getting more and more power over state politics. States not playing ball? Offer a federal spending package... to help with education or medical care or anything. What it is doesn't matter... the dollar figure is all that matters. And if the states want that money they have to play ball. Comply with federal rule 23 subsection 4 part L of law whatever the hell. And if you don't the money doesn't come. And if the money doesn't come you'll still pay because its a federal tax and all your citizens are going to pay it whether the state gets the money or not.
Leverage.
You like being in debt?
You like having a knife against your throat?
You like being told what to do?
You like having a chain around your neck?
Well... about that... if you don't want a chain around your neck maybe you shouldn't sit there and beg to have the nice man snap it on... what do you think?
I am sure they are... but who do I blame for corruption?
The man that walks into the room with the suitcase full of money or the corrupt oath breaking son of a bitch that takes it?
I'm not stupid. I know that there is always going to be that guy walking in the room with a briefcase full of money. That guy is everywhere. The whole world over. Always has been and always will be.
You can't get rid of that guy. He's a force of nature.
But the guy that takes the money? That is controllable. Proven by the fact that there are relative degrees of corruption throughout the world largely in relation to the extent a society both looks for and then punishes corruption and fraud.
Here is the part where you say slack jawed and drooling that the guy passing out the money is responsible as well. I never said otherwise, fucktard. I said rather that you can't stop him. He's going to be there regardless. Attacking him is like trying drive the tide back by swatting it with a rolled up newspaper. Utterly futile. Always was and always will be.
But go after the politician that takes the money? Go after the guy that takes the money? Now... that you can do. For one thing there are a finite number of people that make those sorts of decisions. You can track them. You can task other people to watch them. The guys with the money... what are you going to do? Watch everyone with money? Watch every company? Have fun with that. But watching the interactions between business interests and government officials? Totally manageable.
Which is why the smart move is to track the politicians and when you smell corruption dig... and when you find it... burn them.
now since I likely wasted my time bothering to explain anything to you... go fuck yourself and die, asshole.
And that's fine. But at least recognize what the problem is instead of hairing off in a dozen retarded directions that have NOTHING to do with the problem.
Then if people ACTUALLY care they can have an ACTUAL discussion about the ACTUAL problem.
It doesn't stop at ISPs. Its a big deal with power companies as well. Take your monthly power bill. Do you know that a big chunk of that is a connection fee? Same deal as with the ISPs. Lets say you've got a big solar array on the top your house and you actually don't use any net power. Guess what... Local utility still wants a connection fee. And that connection fee is set by the cities and counties. Not by what it actually costs but by what they change YOU.
All of this needs to get sold to a series of non-profit co-ops. They need to not turn into huge organizations or they'll get corrupt. Keep them small and problems will be local problems and corrupt leadership will be replacable.
Let it get huge and you'll get some national political cartel in charge of it all and they'll just rape it like its already being raped.
All these idiot posts about how its the market that is constraining ISP development.
Never mind that it is a heavily regulated industry that is very hard to launch on a small scale despite logistically being very easy.
What drives the costs up are the pole fees. They're way too high.
Sell the poles to a co-op. And then let that co-op spread the cost of maintaining the poles around its members.
This should not be under the control of the cities. They just see it as a revenue making opportunity. And that attitude keeps the cost of using the poles high.
Sell it to a co-op. Then we can all use the poles/pipeline for anything.
You could have tiny mom and pop ISPs. That would be in everyone's interest except for the big telecoms.
Aren't certain companies and governments already paying MS to continue support for XP? Okay... then they're making the patches for those users... why not sell or otherwise provide those patches for everyone?
I'm not saying for free... but if they're already going to the trouble to do it... all they need to do is make the patches available to everyone at a reasonable price. Not a big deal.
The dumb thing is that MS was going to cut everyone off in any case.
Do it like any product... put it out there and if enough of it sells, then you maintain the product. Call it "long term support" or something. If people don't buy it then you stop the patches. If enough users do buy... provide it indefinitely.
All true, which is why the finances of politicians must be scrutinized.
Note amongst the other things they've carved out for themselves is immunity from insider trading laws.
You control the issue not by preventing people from petitioning for change but rather by monitoring the politicians such that when they go bad you catch them and they're removed from office.
If you come down on lobbying you'll only strengthen the corruption in the system because you will have removed legitimate means to redress grievances. While black market, backroom, off the books deals are not effected by the law's opinion of them but only by the enforcement policies that frustrate them.
That is how you control the corruption. Monitor the politicians, monitor their finances, monitor their communications... and do not allow them to carve out loopholes for themselves that make it so that laws that apply to everyone don't apply to them.
... Does work? I know from air conditioners that the low pressure coil in an air conditioner radiates heat while the high pressure coil absorbs it.
Its the air compressor that is doing work in that system. Absent that both coils indifferent to internal pressure would reach room temperature.
When the air enters the low coil it gives up heat... And then when it is re-compressed it tries to absorb the same heat back.
As such, on a planetary scale the rising air should give up its heat in the process. Effectively storing the heat in lower layers of the atmosphere. Where upon it will help heat that air which will in turn expand, rise, give up its heat, and fall.
Is energy lost in that system? If so then to what?
Where did I say I didn't believe in science? What in fact does science have to do with this discussion at all?
You believe in science therefore you have a right to act like a spoiled brat? Show me the equation that backs that up?
Frankly, your whole post is irrational and baseless. It shows a lack of understanding for the subject matter and a lack of education as to how to construct rational thoughts. Beyond that, it appears to show a lack of intellectual integrity since it looks like the whole thing was really a very sloppy attempt at a strawman argument.
In short... you sound like a degenerate moron.
Would you like to try again... this time with less drool?
You're right, the best response to a work related problem is to take your issue to social media and destroy the project and burn your relationship with companies that wanted to do business with you.
I probably know more about how the government works drunk then you do sober.
Want to try me? Or do your skills stop at making peanut gallery comments while under the anonymous coward label?
I've at least got the stones to use my Slashdot login ID while expressing myself. And note that I've sustain my "excellent" reputation despite entering many controversial discussions where people like yourself would likely be very happy to blackball me without bothering to understand my position. Exactly what does that say about you that you won't even do that much?
I am doing my best to participate in a rational discussion.
What are you doing? What do you bring to the table? Childish insults and half formed remarks?
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My concern is that the standards stifle innovation.
How do you solve that problem?
If you can find a way to manage that issue short of "oh the politicians will update the standards as needed" then I might get behind it. But so far that's how most standards work.
And no better is "the unelected bureaucrats will manage it". Actually, its a lot worse. Remember how teh FAA recently said it was okay to have electronics on an airplane? Standards.
Those the sorts of standards I want to avoid.
Come up with a way for the government to regulate technology in a way that isn't regressive and I'll stand behind it. Short of that, I'm skeptical.
The franchise fees are regulation... so... we agree.
That isn't the situation we have here... here the government owns the poles. And the government sets the rates to use those poles.
So if we were in control we wouldn't be in the situation we are... and yet this is the situation we're in... so we can't be in control.
The issue is that the poles are related fees are an obscure part of city and county policy that no one has the patience to pay attention to for more then two seconds. And as a result, they can put any fee they like on it for any reason they like and get away with it so long as the bill when it hits consumers is affordable.
Which means for example that if ISPs cut costs and improve efficiency dramatically you won't actually see a price cut in your bill. What happens is that the taxes go up to pick up the slack. This is not cynicism. This has already happened repeatedly with other goods and services.
Look at it like the cigarette taxes if you like... the point of those was to discourage people from smoking... right? Well, what happened when people actually stopped smoking? Ironically, the taxes increased roughly by the same ratio of people quitting.
What is the price for a pack of cigarettes in NYC right now? Nearly six dollars. And that's just the excise tax...
Its anti innovation, its anti competitive, its rent seeking, and a general abomination.
All the above. Why? Because its a hole they can suck blood out of... and the vampires will clamp their jaws around any hole they can suck blood out of and suck and suck and suck.
Its how it is...
Only way to stop it is to close the hole.
You give the government a couple well known places it can pull money from and that is IT. End of story nothing more. Give them latitude to come up with new places they can pull money and they'll get their needles out and start poking you. Before you know it every exposed surface will weep blood. And they'll be there licking it up.
That's why I'd prefer a co-op. Something not a company and not the government. Everyone pays into it to keep it going but it has no link to the city or the county or the state that allows them to drain it from the back end.
The internet is full of standards... and really, while some companies like to create this lock in situation, if there are enough companies it is not in the collective corporate interest to have such differing standards.
Look at the computer industry. Are those standards mandated by the government? Nope. And yet they are maintained... why? Because it creates a mutual habitate for everyone to design and build upon.
Will you get the occasional troll like apple or sony etc that will come up with their own standards that no on else can use? Sure. But have they succeeded in shutting down the ecosystem? Not at all. Sony likely has hurt themselves which is why lately they seem to mostly be releasing standardized equipment. Apple still seems to be getting away with inventing a new USB port every few years but so what.
As regards ISPs, I don't think they could pull an apple or a sony. I don't think anyone cares enough about them to deem them worthy of it. They'll hold with standards because it keeps costs down and because it makes customers happy.
Do you think the ISPs would really start using different jacks or different incompatible communication's protocols? I really doubt it.
There is no earthly reason for these commodities and stocks to trade hands faster then that. What are you doing?
The primary issue here is that human beings can't keep up with it. And that's extremely dangerous. If the computer gets confused then it can smash the market before anyone can do anything about it. But if its doing its thing in ten second pulses then you can likely stop it.
The secondary issue is that the market is very unfair with high frequency trading because it gives people with a better connection a huge advantage over everyone else. Its like having a time machine. Its the insider trading of knowing what the price is going to be in .2 seconds.
Pulse the system and most of that advantage goes away. Sure, your might get your order in faster if your system placed it faster but there's less information to react to... fewer iterations of the price to buy or sell against. You buy and sell on the pulse.
The problem after this will be the dark markets... the in house trading and between house trading of stocks, bonds, futures, etc. And putting any rules on the market tends to encourage the houses to use the dark markets more and more.
Which is fine. You control that by putting laws on the houses that they can't accept certain types of money if they're doing a lot of in house trading. The money you don't let them have is the pension money. The mortgage money. The big safe pots of money that the people give to the market makers largely to keep safe and grow at some reasonable rate.
The big houses need that money or they can't make the big buys. They can't leverage it to bend markets. And that means they have to choose... do they want to go big into the dark market or have access to the pension money? Because you make it a choice and they'll mostly choose the pensions. Which means the ones that will go after the dark market will be the smaller guys... the hustlers. And whatever they might or might not do, without the liquidity of the safe money... they won't really matter.
Actually the places most likely to have multiple ISPs are rural areas... that is places where you'll find multiple cable companies laying their cable wire side by side to the same homes.
If logistically that works in a suburban area then it must in an urban area.
The logic on that is inescapable.
Which means it isn't logistics or economics that is holding it back.
And what is left when we remove logistics and economics?
Politics and law.
What you'll find is that the actual block is local ordinances that jack up costs and make it all but impossible for smaller ISPs to get going.
THAT is the problem. Point blank.
Being regulated doesn't mean being efficient or not being corrupt.
Look at the mexican telephone company.
Its a state monopoly... ever seen a mexican telephone bill?
Sorry, sport... its a zero cost operation. Its a tax/revenue scheme for local governments to get a little extra tax money through a service fee.
You see it in phone bills as well.
Ever tried to take your phone bill as low as you could go? Ever seen what portion of the bill that is left is taxes?
I set up a phone not long ago that was I shit you not 80 percent taxes. The phone company operated on 20 percent of what I was paying. 80 percent went to the government.
The government just needs to be taken out of these things. They want money? Remove the crap service taxes and have the stones to raise the actual taxes.
The point of all these little nickle and dime taxes is to hide the real tax rate. You have one big tax that is about as big as you can get away with... and then you have a thousand little taxes that eat away at the edges. And then you have taxes at different levels of the supply chain so that by the time someone goes to buy something they don't realize that half the price of whatever they're buying is just people up the supply chain passing the taxes down.
That's the game.
Its all predicated on the assumption that the people are stupid, unaware, incurious, gullible, and moronically trusting. Is that redundant? Only in the way that three exclamation marks are redundant and yet emphasize the point just that much more.
The government shouldn't run any utility.
Beyond anything else its a threat to our very freedoms.
I don't want the government in control of water, power, food, or the internet.
All of that is just leverage. Something they can put over you to make you comply.
You have rights? Where does it say they have to give you water or road access or electrical power etc? It doesn't... which means if you don't play ball they can cut those things off and you have no legal redress.
Its how the federal government keeps getting more and more power over state politics. States not playing ball? Offer a federal spending package... to help with education or medical care or anything. What it is doesn't matter... the dollar figure is all that matters. And if the states want that money they have to play ball. Comply with federal rule 23 subsection 4 part L of law whatever the hell. And if you don't the money doesn't come. And if the money doesn't come you'll still pay because its a federal tax and all your citizens are going to pay it whether the state gets the money or not.
Leverage.
You like being in debt?
You like having a knife against your throat?
You like being told what to do?
You like having a chain around your neck?
Well... about that... if you don't want a chain around your neck maybe you shouldn't sit there and beg to have the nice man snap it on... what do you think?
I am sure they are... but who do I blame for corruption?
The man that walks into the room with the suitcase full of money or the corrupt oath breaking son of a bitch that takes it?
I'm not stupid. I know that there is always going to be that guy walking in the room with a briefcase full of money. That guy is everywhere. The whole world over. Always has been and always will be.
You can't get rid of that guy. He's a force of nature.
But the guy that takes the money? That is controllable. Proven by the fact that there are relative degrees of corruption throughout the world largely in relation to the extent a society both looks for and then punishes corruption and fraud.
Here is the part where you say slack jawed and drooling that the guy passing out the money is responsible as well. I never said otherwise, fucktard. I said rather that you can't stop him. He's going to be there regardless. Attacking him is like trying drive the tide back by swatting it with a rolled up newspaper. Utterly futile. Always was and always will be.
But go after the politician that takes the money? Go after the guy that takes the money? Now... that you can do. For one thing there are a finite number of people that make those sorts of decisions. You can track them. You can task other people to watch them. The guys with the money... what are you going to do? Watch everyone with money? Watch every company? Have fun with that. But watching the interactions between business interests and government officials? Totally manageable.
Which is why the smart move is to track the politicians and when you smell corruption dig... and when you find it... burn them.
now since I likely wasted my time bothering to explain anything to you... go fuck yourself and die, asshole.
And that's fine. But at least recognize what the problem is instead of hairing off in a dozen retarded directions that have NOTHING to do with the problem.
Then if people ACTUALLY care they can have an ACTUAL discussion about the ACTUAL problem.
It doesn't stop at ISPs. Its a big deal with power companies as well. Take your monthly power bill. Do you know that a big chunk of that is a connection fee? Same deal as with the ISPs. Lets say you've got a big solar array on the top your house and you actually don't use any net power. Guess what... Local utility still wants a connection fee. And that connection fee is set by the cities and counties. Not by what it actually costs but by what they change YOU.
All of this needs to get sold to a series of non-profit co-ops. They need to not turn into huge organizations or they'll get corrupt. Keep them small and problems will be local problems and corrupt leadership will be replacable.
Let it get huge and you'll get some national political cartel in charge of it all and they'll just rape it like its already being raped.
All these idiot posts about how its the market that is constraining ISP development.
Never mind that it is a heavily regulated industry that is very hard to launch on a small scale despite logistically being very easy.
What drives the costs up are the pole fees. They're way too high.
Sell the poles to a co-op. And then let that co-op spread the cost of maintaining the poles around its members.
This should not be under the control of the cities. They just see it as a revenue making opportunity. And that attitude keeps the cost of using the poles high.
Sell it to a co-op. Then we can all use the poles/pipeline for anything.
You could have tiny mom and pop ISPs. That would be in everyone's interest except for the big telecoms.
Aren't certain companies and governments already paying MS to continue support for XP? Okay... then they're making the patches for those users... why not sell or otherwise provide those patches for everyone?
I'm not saying for free... but if they're already going to the trouble to do it... all they need to do is make the patches available to everyone at a reasonable price. Not a big deal.
The dumb thing is that MS was going to cut everyone off in any case.
Do it like any product... put it out there and if enough of it sells, then you maintain the product. Call it "long term support" or something. If people don't buy it then you stop the patches. If enough users do buy... provide it indefinitely.
Why are people so stupid.
We are the lobbyists. I am a lobbyist and you are a lobbyist and we all are lobbyists.
We're done... talking to you is like trying to hold a conversation with a tomato.
All true, which is why the finances of politicians must be scrutinized.
Note amongst the other things they've carved out for themselves is immunity from insider trading laws.
You control the issue not by preventing people from petitioning for change but rather by monitoring the politicians such that when they go bad you catch them and they're removed from office.
If you come down on lobbying you'll only strengthen the corruption in the system because you will have removed legitimate means to redress grievances. While black market, backroom, off the books deals are not effected by the law's opinion of them but only by the enforcement policies that frustrate them.
That is how you control the corruption. Monitor the politicians, monitor their finances, monitor their communications... and do not allow them to carve out loopholes for themselves that make it so that laws that apply to everyone don't apply to them.
All multiplayer games should have the option to create and host your own games without relying on undisclosed hosting software.
You contradict yourself.
You hold lobbying as responsible in some of your posts and then hold it as sacrosanct.
The contradiction is holding it responsible. It is not.
It is the corruption that is responsible.
You're right... throwing a hissy fit and running off to social media to complain is the most reasonable response.
Twit.
Being allowed to petition the government is a key quality of democracy.
Its a matter of free speech. Lobbying is a fundamental right.
Cutting secret deals with corporations and wealthy individuals is not.
Your inability to distinguish between the two speaks poorly for you.
... Does work? I know from air conditioners that the low pressure coil in an air conditioner radiates heat while the high pressure coil absorbs it.
Its the air compressor that is doing work in that system. Absent that both coils indifferent to internal pressure would reach room temperature.
When the air enters the low coil it gives up heat... And then when it is re-compressed it tries to absorb the same heat back.
As such, on a planetary scale the rising air should give up its heat in the process. Effectively storing the heat in lower layers of the atmosphere. Where upon it will help heat that air which will in turn expand, rise, give up its heat, and fall.
Is energy lost in that system? If so then to what?
Where did I say I didn't believe in science? What in fact does science have to do with this discussion at all?
You believe in science therefore you have a right to act like a spoiled brat? Show me the equation that backs that up?
Frankly, your whole post is irrational and baseless. It shows a lack of understanding for the subject matter and a lack of education as to how to construct rational thoughts. Beyond that, it appears to show a lack of intellectual integrity since it looks like the whole thing was really a very sloppy attempt at a strawman argument.
In short... you sound like a degenerate moron.
Would you like to try again... this time with less drool?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=climate+c...
Here is where you feel stupid.
I have no problem with lobbying. I have a problem with quid pro quo politics between specific businesses and specific politicians.
You want a make a deal? Make a deal for everyone with the government in general. Pass a law that applies to everyone.
You make some back room deal where company X gets Y in return for giving campaign funds R to politician Z... that you kill with fire.
You're right, the best response to a work related problem is to take your issue to social media and destroy the project and burn your relationship with companies that wanted to do business with you.
You're a genius. Never change.
I probably know more about how the government works drunk then you do sober.
Want to try me? Or do your skills stop at making peanut gallery comments while under the anonymous coward label?
I've at least got the stones to use my Slashdot login ID while expressing myself. And note that I've sustain my "excellent" reputation despite entering many controversial discussions where people like yourself would likely be very happy to blackball me without bothering to understand my position. Exactly what does that say about you that you won't even do that much?
I am doing my best to participate in a rational discussion.
What are you doing? What do you bring to the table? Childish insults and half formed remarks?
Either participate or leave.